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Hi Guys.
Greetings from Ireland. I have an Xperia Z3 D6603. Its running stock Andriod L 5.0.2 with Apex launcher instead of Xperia home. Its a great phone and besides some small issues I love it. The main issue however is that it randomly stops vibrating which can be quite irritating. It started acting up about a month ago and I presumed it must have been an app causing the phone to misbehave, however when I boot the phone into safe mode the same occurs. Usually from boot up it will work for about 10 key presses, for eg the home button pressed multiple times and then it stops working. Then after a few minutes it will kick back in. This is most noticeable when typing and is annoying. Its like the motor gets tired and cuts out if that's even possible? Anyone else had a similar issue? I searched but couldn't find any applicable information.
Thanks in advance,Barry
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Hi Guys.
Greetings from Ireland. I have an Xperia Z3 D6603. Its running stock Andriod L 5.0.2 with Apex launcher instead of Xperia home. Its a great phone and besides some small issues I love it. The main issue however is that it randomly stops vibrating which can be quite irritating. It started acting up about a month ago and I presumed it must have been an app causing the phone to misbehave, however when I boot the phone into safe mode the same occurs. Usually from boot up it will work for about 10 key presses, for eg the home button pressed multiple times and then it stops working. Then after a few minutes it will kick back in. This is most noticeable when typing and is annoying. Its like the motor gets tired and cuts out if that's even possible? Anyone else had a similar issue? I searched but couldn't find any applicable information.
Thanks in advance,Barry
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the lag could be from the launcher and its eating the cpu and thus when typing its slow to respond to the touches, have you tried it with the stock launcher?
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the lag could be from the launcher and its eating the cpu and thus when typing its slow to respond to the touches, have you tried it with the stock launcher?
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Hi Richy. Yeah I booted into safe mode and the same occurs. I thought it was the launcher or a third party app but in safe mode if I repeatedly tap the home key for 10 times the vibration disappears. Really has me confused, I don't see how it could be hardware when the motor actually does work when it wants to?
Bxperiaz3 said:
Hi Guys.
Greetings from Ireland. I have an Xperia Z3 D6603. Its running stock Andriod L 5.0.2 with Apex launcher instead of Xperia home. Its a great phone and besides some small issues I love it. The main issue however is that it randomly stops vibrating which can be quite irritating. It started acting up about a month ago and I presumed it must have been an app causing the phone to misbehave, however when I boot the phone into safe mode the same occurs. Usually from boot up it will work for about 10 key presses, for eg the home button pressed multiple times and then it stops working. Then after a few minutes it will kick back in. This is most noticeable when typing and is annoying. Its like the motor gets tired and cuts out if that's even possible? Anyone else had a similar issue? I searched but couldn't find any applicable information.
Thanks in advance,Barry
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I have EXACTLY the same problem. It is super irritating and I have the feeling too that it's a software problem. Maybe something that the previous software update is causing. It even just happened when I typed this. Maybe someone has a clue?
I have a Pixel 2 and I feel like ever since the device upgraded to Pie I get this random horizontal line that briefly flickers during a transition between apps from the launcher. It is the very bottom of the screen for any app that keeps a black navigation bar at the bottom. It will only flash or flicker once and doesn't happen all the time. The main app that does this is Hangouts but occasionally happens with others too like the camera app or Google News. I figured it might be software but wanted to see if anyone else noticed it. The device runs fine otherwise so hopefully not a big deal down the road if there is failing hardware.
So I know there are other android 10 threads out there but I felt like y'all should get a list of whats new in front of your eyes instead of looking around:
**Improved night camera quality - Yes I have felt and improvement it is slight however, but it did get somewhat better.
**Google's new navigation gestures (I felt like I should write this because last updates, Sony phones did not get the nav gestures) however the new gestures seem just a tiny bit laggy -rarely though- and when in landscape mode, the slide down bar drops not in a symmetric way but rather drops right sided which makes things look out of place
**New CinemaPro app features - the app now has the levels of both phone microphones like on the v50 and also has aspect ratio check lines (if you want to shoot a video on cinema pro it only shoots 21/9 but you can have check lines to see whats being viewed in any other aspect ratio you choose and you also have a meter inside the camera to show you if youre in the frame or not)
**Dark mode - works on most apps, but I can't seem to activate it on my phone app, any suggestions?
**UI click sounds changed - yup! I love the new ones they sound more like Android rather than Sony and I do love Android!
**FINGERPRINT!!!! - Yes!! finally fingerprint scanner is way more responsive now!! before it was sooo strict about the cleanness and the angle, I registered 3 fingers and it only could recognize one of them because of the angle it provides, but now every finger on any angle with less cleanness is verry responsive! (could still be worked on, but im so happy with it at this moment)
**Sadly no more face unlock, even though I never used it but it worked surprisingly fast when I had the option available, but now it doesnt exist, good thing they improved the fingerprint scanner XD
**Slightly improved battery life - I only noticed it when I tested it, but if youre not a detailed tester you wont be able to recognize throughout the day, maybe if youre a slight user, yes you will notice the phone lasting 2/3 hours longer (overall usage and not screen on time) because I can tell they worked greatly on improving the idle drain.
**Speaker loudness - I think the phone got louder? I am not sure but defiantly notice something that didnt exist, not necessarily higher quality but I do notice something increasing in volume I cant tell if its volume or distortion lol but when I go to max volume there is something that makes you think, a little lower than max sounded like max on previous android but I cant tell if max here is actually louder or just more noisy especially with dolby atmos
**Some people reported signal drops? or bad signal? I havent noticed a difference here so thats good news
**Performance - the phone was fast enough to almost be the king of speed and smoothness so yah even if its better on android 10 I cant even feel the difference but it is VERY smooth even on a new android which means its pretty sick!
**Recent apps button (in old school 3 button nav bar) doesnt seem to do anything if you have custom launcher, but works on default sony launcher.
UPDATE!!
**one handed mode, which I use alot when im in bed, cant seem to be activated in the new navigation gestures, because you have to double tap home button but u dont have it in new gestures, so heres what i did:
Enabled side sense, i know it doesn't work properly, but now you have an option of controlling how to access it, You can actually enable the inside the screen tap rather than from the side (if you have a case on, this will really help you) , adjust sensitivity, position, transparency of the slide activators, and change the gestures of how it works, now i changed the double tap side sense from opening the side sense menu, to activate one handed mode, and now side sense works smoothly with gestures and i can activate one handed mode in new android nav gestures, youre welcome
Thx u for this thread
UI seems a lot smoother. I'm liking the android 10 gestures which adds to the "smoothness".
Can't really say about photo quality, haven't been using the camera much. I can definitely notice a better battery life compared to before.
Basically no issues just yet! Aside from me getting used to the new gestures (+ side sense)
Im using the google dialer app in play store. It has a way better ui, better icons and dark mode compatible. Set it as default and it's all good. I don't understand why sony have decided to use the "stock" google messenger app but not dialer... the dialer seems customized in some way idk
There is a bug that I noticed: when going back home using the gesture, if the app icon is on the dock, the icons a bit laggy and will flash for once. don't really know how to describe it
Someone can make a full review of android 10 and post it on youtube ?
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Im using the google dialer app in play store. It has a way better ui, better icons and dark mode compatible. Set it as default and it's all good. I don't understand why sony have decided to use the "stock" google messenger app but not dialer... the dialer seems customized in some way idk
There is a bug that I noticed: when going back home using the gesture, if the app icon is on the dock, the icons a bit laggy and will flash for once. don't really know how to describe it
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Yah you just reminded me to add that bug, also if you on landscape mode the slide down bar is off place slides from the right rather than the middle of the screen
Pandemic said:
Someone can make a full review of android 10 and post it on youtube ?
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I will try to do so soon, when I have free time from work
Agree with you.
- about the signal, i notice less signals bar (1-2 signal bars most of the time), but no connection drop (yet)
- wifi Mac address new option, set by default at "random Mac address"
Here's a preview of the swipe up animation bug?
https://youtu.be/ZM0Exs9F4yQ
Does anyone else have a weird audio bug where when you pause music or a video the sound spikes up for a second before it pauses. I've only tested it on the native music app and YouTube. I don't use any music streaming service such as Spotify or Pandora. I think I've concluded that this is a software bug since I when I flashed back to the previous firmware and didn't have the same problem. Maybe my device is just strange. Any opinion?
Arsyian said:
Does anyone else have a weird audio bug where when you pause music or a video the sound spikes up for a second before it pauses. I've only tested it on the native music app and YouTube. I don't use any music streaming service such as Spotify or Pandora. I think I've concluded that this is a software bug since I when I flashed back to the previous firmware and didn't have the same problem. Maybe my device is just strange. Any opinion?
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Yes,I have the same issue, but as I remember this issue also existing on Pie.
t238z said:
Yes,I have the same issue, but as I remember this issue also existing on Pie.
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That's strange cause I never had the problem till updating to Android 10.
I think i have a bug i have notification from album that i cant remove it. Even though i have restar my phone
It always check the update
blegs said:
I think i have a bug i have notification from album that i cant remove it. Even though i have restar my phone
It always check the update
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this happens with me with BG player.. I simply turned off its notifications
Sugarcube8th said:
There is a bug that I noticed: when going back home using the gesture, if the app icon is on the dock, the icons a bit laggy and will flash for once. don't really know how to describe it
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Precisely, IDK if that happens with pixel or one plus devices, but I know that it happens with Xperia 1. When you go back to the app, let's just say it's inside a folder, app shows in the dock then the folder pops back. Then if you open an app let's just say dialer then you switch to camera with recent menu and you go back to home screen it shows dialer app on where the camera icon then you get the camera icon back in the dock. Am I right?
[Bug report] Recent key not working in Android 10.
Screenshot as below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUlHZ0weCfs&feature=youtu.be
When you press Recent button, there is just nothing.
Remember people more updates will vome of android 10, this is the 1st release so except some tiny bugs. Sony/google will fix that
just added some more updates about bugs and updates in main post check it out
kevinkoo said:
[Bug report] Recent key not working in Android 10.
Screenshot as below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUlHZ0weCfs&feature=youtu.be
When you press Recent button, there is just nothing.
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whats that launcher?
Just got mine an hour ago. Hoping that I don't experience those bugs.
Hello All,
Hope You All Are Doing Great !
As Subject Describes The Purpose Of This Forum. Here We Can Share And Discuss After The Update Of Android 10.
As Far As My Experience.
Phone Working Good
Battery Timing Is Normal As Before
Great Gesture Experience
Dark Mode Is Working Fine
Here Are The Some Snapshots Of Android 10
Have A Nice Day...
Thanks & Regards,
MUHAMMAD Asif Qasim
Check for update and no update???
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When update to android 10 will be available again??
So far noticed that the favorites apps in app drawer sometimes doesn't show all 5 apps, threre are five dark spots on the nav bar and some BT devices have a much lower volume.
miloske83 said:
Check for update and no update?
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When update to android 10 will be available again?
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Due to the large number of people having problems (boot loop, black screen) with certain LCD/TP combinations, I assume Xiaomi have withdrawn the update.
I'm from Brazil and my signal is very poor after Android 10 most of the times it automatically changes from 4g to 3g... Any thoughts?
xbs said:
So far noticed that the favorites apps in app drawer sometimes doesn't show all 5 apps, threre are five dark spots on the nav bar and some BT devices have a much lower volume.
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Dear Xbs,
Yes, You Are Right I Can Also Confirm That There Are Dark Spots On The Screen Bottom.
Carol Barros said:
I'm from Brazil and my signal is very poor after Android 10 most of the times it automatically changes from 4g to 3g... Any thoughts?
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Carol Barros,
I Mostly Use 4G In Office And Didn't Face Any Issue. May Be Someone Can Confirm.
Carol Barros said:
I'm from Brazil and my signal is very poor after Android 10 most of the times it automatically changes from 4g to 3g... Any thoughts?
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I'm also from Brazil and noticed the same thing yesterday, kept getting 3G on my university and I would always gat 4G before the update.
aasiaasi said:
Dear Xbs,
Yes, You Are Right I Can Also Confirm That There Are Dark Spots On The Screen Bottom.
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omg i thought i was the only one, five dark circle spots appeared where the navbar used to be after android 10 i presumed the screen was done for, could this be an issue with android 10 and can it be fixed with a SW update?
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So far noticed that the favorites apps in app drawer sometimes doesn't show all 5 apps, threre are five dark spots on the nav bar and some BT devices have a much lower volume.
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This defect of the dark points, can be interpreted as hardware damage?
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This defect of the dark points, can be interpreted as hardware damage?
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Dear IlSaro,
I Don't Think So This Hardware Has Damaged As Before The Update There Was No Dark Spot. This Should Be Fixed With New March Update.
aasiaasi said:
Dear IlSaro,
I Don't Think So This Hardware Has Damaged As Before The Update There Was No Dark Spot. This Should Be Fixed With New March Update.
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i hope so but it looks like the lcd hardware got damaged while updating so idk if a software update will fix it.
It does not have to be damaged hardware. I think this might be a driver problem where some of the backlight led are not triggered correctly. We will see with the next patch.
Sadly i am not so happy with the update.
The darkmode is quite nice, but reading in sunlight is difficult in some apps. Gmail for example is really hard to read in darkmode when you are outside and the sun is shining. Would be nice to have a quick option the switch between darkmode and normal. You can put a shortcut in the Top menu, so everything is fine here.
Gesture Control is also a mixed bag for me. While it works fine overall there are some problems, sadly especially with the apps that uses googles material concept for menus. A swipe from the left normally opens the menu. Now it also is the "back" button and clashes with it. You now have to make a awkward gesture (starting left, going down and right diagonal) to open the menu or you have to use the button for the menu. But this sits at the top left of the screen so good look reaching there with one hand.
Dual Sim is bad now because you can no longer deaktivate a single sim. I don't know why this is removed.
The camera plays sounds on taking a picture even if you deactived the sounds in the camera app. And if you active them, you get two sounds at once.
Support for third party launchers with gesture controll completly does not work.
And we got a message to customize our pixel in the settings. Which is a little bit useless because i do not use a pixel phone here.
Overall i don't think the update is very good. Feels rushed and not really tested.
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It does not have to be damaged hardware. I think this might be a driver problem where some of the backlight led are not triggered correctly. We will see with the next patch.
Sadly i am not so happy with the update.
The darkmode is quite nice, but reading in sunlight is difficult in some apps. Gmail for example is really hard to read in darkmode when you are outside and the sun is shining. Would be nice to have a quick option the switch between darkmode and normal.
Gesture Control is also a mixed bag for me. While it works fine overall there are some problems, sadly especially with the apps that uses googles material concept for menus. A swipe from the left normally opens the menu. Now it also is the "back" button and clashes with it. You now have to make a awkward gesture (starting left, going down and right diagonal) to open the menu or you have to use the button for the menu. But this sits at the top left of the screen so good look reaching there with one hand.
Dual Sim is bad now because you can no longer deaktivate a single sim. I don't know why this is removed.
The camera plays sounds on taking a picture even if you deactived the sounds in the camera app. And if you active them, you get two sounds at once.
Support for third party launchers with gesture controll completly does not work.
And we got a message to customize our pixel in the settings. Which is a little bit useless because i do not use a pixel phone here.
Overall i don't think the update is very good. Feels rushed and not really tested.
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I confirm the lack of dual-sim settings but apart from the small gray areas at the bottom, which could be eliminated in the future update, I do not detect other bugs.
After the update, however, I made a complete reset
I confirm the pixel reminder and the third party launcher gestures not working at all.
Problems so far:
When i scroll your screenshots from the first post, i got lot of lagg (please try for your self in Xda app + Android 10).
Also, two or three times, I'm experiencing random reboots from some apps.
I noticed random drops on both wifi bands (2.4 & 5 GHz).
Worse strength of 4G mobile signal.
Slower response from fingerprint sensor.
Very common graphical glitches on home screen.
Worst battery life.
Maximum brightness is now lower than earlier in previous version of Android.
The overall performance is good and gestures are fast and don't usually lag.
The bugs I've detected are:
- Five dim spots on the bottom of the screen, they show up just a second after the Android One logo appear when booting up or restarting.
- much worse cell signal reception.
- (edit, fixed with reboot) No microphone most of the times (WhatsApp and telegram voice notes are silent, assistant and Google voice search don't work, "ok Google" doesn't trigger, etc.) and low volume when recording videos.
- Still no vibration for WhatsApp, telegram, signal... calls when DND is active and set up to allow calls from anyone. Regular phone calls do vibrate as expected.
- Battery seems to drain faster?
Can I ask if anybody can confirm if Bluetooth audio codecs can be selected, as it has been broke for months andd never fixed, can you set aac on aac headphones?
Sorry 10 is not on my device as it bricked it
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It does not have to be damaged hardware. I think this might be a driver problem where some of the backlight led are not triggered correctly. We will see with the next patch.
Sadly i am not so happy with the update.
The darkmode is quite nice, but reading in sunlight is difficult in some apps. Gmail for example is really hard to read in darkmode when you are outside and the sun is shining. Would be nice to have a quick option the switch between darkmode and normal.
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You can put a "dark mode" tile in quick settings.
If you move it to the first 6 tiles, you can switch dark mode on or off after one single slide down of QS.
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You can put a "dark mode" tile in quick settings.
If you move it to the first 6 tiles, you can switch dark mode on or off after one single slide down of QS.
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Oh, thanks for this information. Did not see this. Ok, then i am cool with the dark mode
My 1st smartphone was a Palm Pre Plus (webOS), I got an Android next but Went back to WebOS with an HP Veer. ... Really liked how they implemented gestures properly a DECADE before anyone else. Was using Moto phones for nearly 8 years, really loved the Active Display & Moto Actions (camera flip & chop chop flashlight).
With my Moto Z2 Force dying and Moto basically making garbage or something ridiculously overpriced *cough*RAZR*cough* ... had to look elsewhere.
Got a Pixel 5 a few days ago. I hadn't experienced Android 9 or 10, so 11 is a bit step up from Oreo.
Always on display is pretty cool, not as good as Active Display, but better than the old Ambient Display.
Double tap power button to launch camera will work, although not as cool as flipping (I know 3rd party apps exist to mimic gestures, but I'm trying to keep phone as clean as possible for endurance)
Fluid Navigation Gestures can mimic proper Navigation - I'm sorry but the built in Pixel Navigation needs a lot of work. The Swipe up and hold for recent apps is very frustrating to use.
(Here is a solution to removing the 3 button Nav bar on Android 11 with terminal: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/irs1eb/hiding_the_3_dot_navigation_bar_on_android_11_root/)
(For reference, I disabled the left swipe bar. Kept the right swipe as a back button [the one idea I like of Google's], Right Swipe bottom edge -> Recent apps; Left Swipe bottom edge -> Back; Swipe up bottom edge -> Home [Just as it was on WebOS and Moto One Touch Nav]
Various Apps allow for "chop chop" for flashlight. Still testing which one is the best solution.
And Many thanks to @Tulsadiver For his work on the ancient 3Minit app to work with Pixel 5 /4a etc. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-5/themes/3minit-battery-3minit-clock-t4177835 He also has a flashable Magisk module to remove Nav bar https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-5/themes/clock-mods-remove-navbar-mod-t4177829
With those mods, Battery can be changed to similar to Gravitybox Ring battery style and clock can be moved to center or right (the left clock is very annoying).
Just sharing a few things I've come across many different places. Some of this really just writing here for myself for memory and sharing if it'll be helpful for anyone else.
Cheers!
I bought a cheap Moto G7 Power and realized how much I deeply missed some of Moto's little tweaks. Chop and twist are big ones that I miss constantly. Still trying to get an app that implements it half as well. I'd really, really love if we could get a ring battery indicator around the hole punch to reclaim lost space and move the clock. Another killer feature that the Moto had me convinced was just another part of Android was scrolling screenshots. Deeply disappointed when I went to use it on the Pixel with a newer OS and it was missing.
Why are you finding the swipe up hard to use?
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somnambulantdead said:
I bought a cheap Moto G7 Power and realized how much I deeply missed some of Moto's little tweaks. Chop and twist are big ones that I miss constantly. Still trying to get an app that implements it half as well. I'd really, really love if we could get a ring battery indicator around the hole punch to reclaim lost space and move the clock. Another killer feature that the Moto had me convinced was just another part of Android was scrolling screenshots. Deeply disappointed when I went to use it on the Pixel with a newer OS and it was missing.
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Yeah I hear ya. The Active Display / Moto Display was great too. At least on the Moto X / X2, after that it wasnt as good but still better than what any other manufacturer has developed.
I've seen the app "energy ring" which does this, but the dev hasn't added support for Pixel 5 yet (it's been added for Pixel 4a, so I'm hoping support will come soon).
With Magisk and tweaks by Tulsadiver, the clock can be moved to the right, it looks much better.
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Why are you finding the swipe up hard to use?
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The swipe up is fine, it's the swipe up + HOLD that bothers me. doesn't feel fluid or natural. One motion should control one action only.
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The swipe up is fine, it's the swipe up + HOLD that bothers me. doesn't feel fluid or natural. One motion should control one action only.
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Interesting, I'm finding it one movement , move up from bottom, then the hold is less than s second
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roweboat56 said:
The swipe up is fine, it's the swipe up + HOLD that bothers me. doesn't feel fluid or natural. One motion should control one action only.
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If you swipe up from the bottom about ½cm you don't need to do the hold action. It automatically loads the recent apps screen for me. Any higher and it'll take you back to the home screen without holding.
I just use Button Mapper to turn my volume button into a flashlight toggle when the screen is off. Much faster and works more often than the chop gesture. You can customize other stuff too wtih it. A nice all-in-one app.