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[Q] Any way to keep brightness down in camera?

Right, I've got a black One S with android 4.0.3 and sense 4, all like new (as it is). I don't fancy rooting it and don't really want to change from the HTC Rom, but the backlight in the camera annoys me. On the touch pro2 with the HTC stuff, I'm certain there was an option in settings to keep the screen backlight down when in the camera. On the Trophy that followed, I couldn't control it, because, let's face it, you can't control much in WP7. however, switching to the one S and android, I expected being able to keep the backlight down.
Why is this frustrating me? I don't like.being blinded by the viewfinder, and I don't want to kill the battery any more than I have to. So, is there a way to keep the phone's backlight down while in the HTC camera app?

Okay, now I know everyone has ignored this thread but I think I've discovered a way. So here's the setup:
HTC One S
System brightness set to lowest
A 4 digit screen-lock password
So I have the passcode set on the 15 minute max timeout, so, the phone locked itself, and I dragged the camera icon on the lockscreen into the ring. Naturally, despite being locked, it still allows use of the camera. Now, it may just be my eyes, but I'm certain I noticed a distance difference in brightness. That is, the screen seemed a lot dimmer when the camera app was being accessed from behind the lock rather than unlocked.

I think the brightness is ok lol
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AMOLED displays as the one in One S doesnt have backlights. But there is a mod that lowers the values when using auto brightness since the defaults are a bit high, not especially made for in-camera though. Check for it in Tweak Machine thread in apps and themes forums.

k1llacanon said:
I think the brightness is ok lol
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I guess most people aren't that fussed about the brightness, but the battery did seem to last a lot longer when recording 1080p video with the lower brightness.
frdd said:
AMOLED displays as the one in One S doesnt have backlights. But there is a mod that lowers the values when using auto brightness since the defaults are a bit high, not especially made for in-camera though. Check for it in Tweak Machine thread in apps and themes forums.
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Does that require root access? From what I can see it does, and I guess that too would be helpful for the majority, but my phone isn't rooted. Mainly because I like the HTC Sense camera interface so much

Yeah you must flash it from custom recovery so at least unlocked boot loader required. Why not try a sense based ROM? They all keep the awesome HTC camera and its snappiness

Unfortunately with the One S update I finally received last night bringing it up from Android 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 and Sense 4.1, HTC have now removed the incredibly helpful 'bug' of the brightness staying down in the camera if it is launched from the lockscreen with a password set. Thanks a lot HTC, you excell yourselves with stupidity once again.
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Bump. Recording lectures is impossible due to HTC's stupidity. The 100% screen brightness not only kills the battery before lecture ends, but it's extremely distracting for people behind me (especially if room is dark during powerpoint presentations).
This has to be turned down. Ideally, once set up, the phone should be able to record video with the screen OFF. Or at least with brightness on min. Surely there's a mod or a hack for this?

curiousGeorge said:
Bump. Recording lectures is impossible due to HTC's stupidity. The 100% screen brightness not only kills the battery before lecture ends, but it's extremely distracting for people behind me (especially if room is dark during powerpoint presentations).
This has to be turned down. Ideally, once set up, the phone should be able to record video with the screen OFF. Or at least with brightness on min. Surely there's a mod or a hack for this?
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hi,
Firstly, I'm glad that I'm not alone in this. As you said, it is extremely frustrating as not only is the bright screen distracting for others and makes you look foolish, the battery hardly lasts any time at all. I contacted HTC to see if they could add a brightness slider, their customer support rep said the technical team would get in touch with me - they haven't.
However, on the positive side, I have found two apps which don't allow you to record with lower brightness, they up the ante to your other suggestion, having the screen off. I'd always assumed that cameras on phones couldn't work with the screen off because I thought the phone went into proper sleep. Turns out that the camera can stay active. There are many poor apps on Play, but I found two which offer free (very limited functionality, but allows you to check that the app works with your phone) versions and rather expensive pro versions. I tried both the free versions and liked the second one I tried so much that I bought it.
The first one I found was (I don't know why they assume people are using their cameras solely for nefarious purposes - some of us do have legitimate reasons and battery life concerns) 'Hidden Camera Spy Camera', Play link (Lite version link is in their description). This one worked ok, but took a while to configure and doesn't have the nicest interface. So I continued hunting and came across an even better app:
Secret Video Recorder Pro (Lite version listed at the side in the More by this Developer panel): This app is even more elegant. I tried the lite version and found that it worked well, so I then decided to buy the full version (apparently it's currently 50% off, but still pretty expensive - well worth it though). After going through the settings, I set it to use the rear camera and force HD recording. I then tapped the icon on the homescreen, it notified me and then just ran in the notification area. I then turned the screen off, whirled the phone around my room, turned the phone back on and tapped on the notification to stop it. I then checked the video and to my amazement, it had worked! (on an unrooted, still carrier locked, black One S running the latest official updated OS (Android 4.0.4 and Sense 4.1))
When I dragged the app into the fixed Sense homescreen dock, originally it displayed nothing, even after rebooting the phone. However, after Sense crashed and showed me a message saying Sense had crashed, it even worked from the lockscreen. If you have the 'Show icon' enabled in the SVR Preferences, you can then tell from the lockscreen that it is actually recording as you can see the icon in the notification bar.
I'm sorry for rambling on and on, but I think SVR just got into my top 5 apps of all time list as it is unbelievably flawless (apart from the price )

biggles1000 said:
hi,
Firstly, I'm glad that I'm not alone in this. As you said, it is extremely frustrating as not only is the bright screen distracting for others and makes you look foolish, the battery hardly lasts any time at all. I contacted HTC to see if they could add a brightness slider, their customer support rep said the technical team would get in touch with me - they haven't.
However, on the positive side, I have found two apps which don't allow you to record with lower brightness, they up the ante to your other suggestion, having the screen off. I'd always assumed that cameras on phones couldn't work with the screen off because I thought the phone went into proper sleep. Turns out that the camera can stay active. There are many poor apps on Play, but I found two which offer free (very limited functionality, but allows you to check that the app works with your phone) versions and rather expensive pro versions. I tried both the free versions and liked the second one I tried so much that I bought it.
The first one I found was (I don't know why they assume people are using their cameras solely for nefarious purposes - some of us do have legitimate reasons and battery life concerns) 'Hidden Camera Spy Camera', Play link (Lite version link is in their description). This one worked ok, but took a while to configure and doesn't have the nicest interface. So I continued hunting and came across an even better app:
Secret Video Recorder Pro (Lite version listed at the side in the More by this Developer panel): This app is even more elegant. I tried the lite version and found that it worked well, so I then decided to buy the full version (apparently it's currently 50% off, but still pretty expensive - well worth it though). After going through the settings, I set it to use the rear camera and force HD recording. I then tapped the icon on the homescreen, it notified me and then just ran in the notification area. I then turned the screen off, whirled the phone around my room, turned the phone back on and tapped on the notification to stop it. I then checked the video and to my amazement, it had worked! (on an unrooted, still carrier locked, black One S running the latest official updated OS (Android 4.0.4 and Sense 4.1))
When I dragged the app into the fixed Sense homescreen dock, originally it displayed nothing, even after rebooting the phone. However, after Sense crashed and showed me a message saying Sense had crashed, it even worked from the lockscreen. If you have the 'Show icon' enabled in the SVR Preferences, you can then tell from the lockscreen that it is actually recording as you can see the icon in the notification bar.
I'm sorry for rambling on and on, but I think SVR just got into my top 5 apps of all time list as it is unbelievably flawless (apart from the price )
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Doesn't using SVR defeat your original purpose? It's not using the Sense camera, it's using it's own implementation? At that rate, any aftermarket camera should work and allow you to use default screen brightness.

el_smurfo said:
Doesn't using SVR defeat your original purpose? It's not using the Sense camera, it's using it's own implementation? At that rate, any aftermarket camera should work and allow you to use default screen brightness.
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Unfortunately, yes, it does. SVR is sort of a compromise for me at the moment as I can save battery life but I do miss out on all the Sense camera features. It would be great if HTC do actually listen to my request and implement it, given how simple a request it is, but they appear to be constantly so far ahead with all their development process that I doubt they'd include it in the the Android 4.1 release scheduled for this month
SVR is on one end of the scale of what I'd like to do with the camera (save the battery) and the Sense camera is on the other end (use the camera). Where I'd like HTC to place us is in the middle of those two, with the ability to use the Sense camera but in a power-efficient manner (such as being able to record a video but take stills at the same time, with the battery outlasting the meager storage space).

EMUI quirks and annoyances

I’ve used stock or (virtually stock) Android phones for years. My last properly skinned phone was a Samsung Galaxy s II. So using EMUI on this phone has been interesting. There is a lot that I like, but here I’ll describe a few annoying quirks I’ve noticed, plus any partial-solutions I use. Hopefully this will inform perspective and current P20 owners, but also, if you have a solution to any of these problems, do let me know!
- The settings menu is terrible. They have messed with it so much, and added so many settings, that it is often impossible to find what you’re looking for. The solution is to search, which, thankfully, works well.
- The lock screen wallpaper changes every time you unlock the phone. I feel like an idiot, but I can’t work out how to set my own (single!) wallpaper. There are these collections which you can choose between, and then from the lock screen itself you can favourite wallpapers from the collection (not sure what this does) and pause on a wallpaper from the collection, and it looks like you can add your own collections, but this doesn’t seem to work. There MUST be a work around. All I want is the same wallpaper on my lock and home screen!
- Notification content (including media controls) is always hidden on the lockscreen until you authenticate, regardless of the app setting. This seems to be a bug. Setting up face unlock (and swipe to unlock) at least means you can see your lock screen with notification content when at a face-unlock-friendly angle.
- The double tap vol down to launch camera works fine, except when I’m listening to music, when it just turns down the music. No idea why they don’t give this functionality to the lock button like most OEMs.
- Unlock by voice for Google Assistant doesn’t seem to work. I’ve had this problem on other phones so don’t know if I’d blame Huawei. It responds to ‘OK Google’ from screen off (which is better than my OnePlus) but won’t actually unlock.
- The always on display is a bit weak. It doesn’t even properly show notifications.
Anything to add? What EMUI quirks have you found?

Try this for always on display and notifications
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/how-to/display-notifications-set-t3776376

The settings menu is terrible. They have messed with it so much, and added so many settings, that it is often impossible to find what you’re looking for. The solution is to search, which, thankfully, works well.
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I find the settings menu perfect compared to samsung or other brands.
The lock screen wallpaper changes every time you unlock the phone. I feel like an idiot, but I can’t work out how to set my own (single!) wallpaper. There are these collections which you can choose between, and then from the lock screen itself you can favourite wallpapers from the collection (not sure what this does) and pause on a wallpaper from the collection, and it looks like you can add your own collections, but this doesn’t seem to work. There MUST be a work around. All I want is the same wallpaper on my lock and home screen!
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Just open gallery, open any picture you want, set as background for home- and lockscreen, thats it
Notification content (including media controls) is always hidden on the lockscreen until you authenticate, regardless of the app setting. This seems to be a bug. Setting up face unlock (and swipe to unlock) at least means you can see your lock screen with notification content when at a face-unlock-friendly angle.
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You can set to show always full content, even if not authenticated.
The always on display is a bit weak. It doesn’t even properly show notifications.
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I´m sure there will be more options with further firmware updates
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I have sometimes problems with starting my spotify automatically when connecting a bluetooth device, I think a sleep mode problem. Another bug is the one with updating widgets. My calendar widget f.e. crashes after a time. found a workaround with "your calendar widget".
But I think all in all its a great phone with great features

lobr1 said:
The lock screen wallpaper changes every time you unlock the phone. I feel like an idiot, but I can’t work out how to set my own (single!) wallpaper. There are these collections which you can choose between, and then from the lock screen itself you can favourite wallpapers from the collection (not sure what this does) and pause on a wallpaper from the collection, and it looks like you can add your own collections, but this doesn’t seem to work. There MUST be a work around. All I want is the same wallpaper on my lock and home screen!
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You can find this setting in 'Security & privacy' - 'Screen lock & passwords'
=> 'Update covers' to enable and disable it and 'Covers' to choose the pictures to show

EMUI has made me fall back in love with OxygenOS - the way EMUI treats notifications and the lock screen is diabolical. If I unlock my Oneplus 3 but don't read a notification, I can lock it again and the notification remains on the lock screen. The notifications span the whole screen, and work perfectly.
Also, Spotify on OxygenOS uses album cover art as lock screen wallpaper when playing, similar to how EMUI treats the local Music app.

This gonna be a debate for eternity.
People who come from xiaomi or samsung wont feel too awkward with emui,
Different case if you come from AOSP, or Oxygen or LOS.
Best solution is slapping NOVA launcher as soon as you use the phone.

I've used several Huawei phones now, in fact since the Mate 8 they've tended to be my main phones through most of the year (I still try others, but tend to come back for the battery life and cameras, granted the cameras have not been as good as competitors but the camera systems are more fun to me as a person with an amateur interest in photography and I've taken a lot of shots I don't think I could have got from the others). The P8Max was my first, and the UI/OS was a bit of a dogs breakfast - so many things were broken (many due to trying to increase battery longevity) and many other things required complex workarounds beyond installing Nova which I've had on each of them. It's pretty well fine now, but if you're coming from Samsung or others it's very different and will take a bit of time to adjust to - particularly the level of granular control you have on things affecting battery life. Once you get a handle on it you'll probably end up appreciating a lot of what it offers.

Google Assistant works fine but it makes conflict with Huawei voice control (so turn off one of them)
Double tap volume down to launch camera is a great idea but why the hell it does not work when players or different apps are in the background.....

Hi there!
Setting your own lockscreen carousel:
Settings>security & privacy>screen lock & passwords>magazine unlock>subscriptions>added by me>add>choose image
You can create your own cycle of wallpapers.
In themes App make sure you set me>customize>lock screen style>magazine unlock

I wish adjusting the volume on Bluetooth headphones adjusted the master volume like on all previous phones I've had instead of acting like an in-line control.
Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk

Hi how do you get rid of double tap on home screen it's do annoying it's a short cut to access latest apps that have used I have Nova Which is excellent and I'm coming from a Samsung S7 to a P20 pro please help !!

To enable or stop scrolling wallaper just swype from the bottom on the lockscreen and you will see Pause button at the left. if you press that, the scrolling will be disabled and a "play" icon will remain.

I've debloating quite a lot from emui.
Installed swap torpedo
Runs faster now and battery lasts longer.
Huawei should offer a vanilla update.
Last time I saw so much bloat was on Samsung.
Unnecessary.

EMUI was one of the reasons I ditched my P10 after 6 months, went back to an iPhone, then to a Nokia 5...
Have any of the roms developed for the P20 done away with EMUI otherwise this device will be another one i'll have to remove from the list of potential upgrades.

Killing foreground apps
Hi, just bought the p20 pro after years with Samsung. I have noticed that it often kills apps that I am currently using, sending me back to the home screen (reminds me of a crash to desktop in windows computers).
After some googling similar problems I adjusted the app auto start and ignore battery optimization settings and it did get better, although it is still killing apps which I presume is using a lot of memory or battery (or both?), for example posting stuff on Instagram (Instagram is whitelisted from optimization and managed manually).
This is really bugging me, anyone else with the same problem? I'm running android 8.1.0, EMUI 8.1.0 and memory always stays between 2,5 and 3 GB.

vmaxx82 said:
Hi, just bought the p20 pro after years with Samsung. I have noticed that it often kills apps that I am currently using, sending me back to the home screen (reminds me of a crash to desktop in windows computers).
After some googling similar problems I adjusted the app auto start and ignore battery optimization settings and it did get better, although it is still killing apps which I presume is using a lot of memory or battery (or both?), for example posting stuff on Instagram (Instagram is whitelisted from optimization and managed manually).
This is really bugging me, anyone else with the same problem? I'm running android 8.1.0, EMUI 8.1.0 and memory always stays between 2,5 and 3 GB.
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This is one of the biggest problems I have with this phone. It keeps killing Skype and I miss calls due to it...

rajeshr said:
This is one of the biggest problems I have with this phone. It keeps killing Skype and I miss calls due to it...
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Yeah, it's turning out to be a deal breaker for me.. Too bad since I really like the phone. Just hope it's a bug ?

Something seems to be happening to spotify when it is running in the background using my bluetooth headphones. I get stuttering and odd pauses, its basically unusable.
I have found if I use andriod auto to run spotify or use the wake lock program to keep the phone in a higher power mode it seems to help. If I have the charger plugged in it works fine as well. It appears to be some sort of power saving issue (yes I have told the phone to ignore spotify's power usage) or something to do with bluetooth power saving. But it works fine in a car.
Thats my only real complaint, and had I known I would have this issue I would have probably grabbed a onePlus device. Using Sure 215's

One thing I did notice, and I also fixed the problem quite simply.
I turned the display Resolution to HD from FHD my thinking was with a lower resolution I'd have better battery and better performance.
What I got was worse.
60fps lagged so badly it was unusable.
Transitions especially to the Google feed lagged and was annoying.
Asphalt 9 lagged and was extremely crap.
Turned FHD back on, all went back to silky smoothes??
Logic didn't exactly prevail here but it works.
So in short if you've turned on adaptive resolution or HD.
Turn it off

I'm facing this weird problem with my p20 pro. In. 128 and 131 and 152 firmware versions whenever in have an incoming call my screen doesn't wake up to show my who is calling me, unless I press the power button or the fingerprint sensor. If the call is missed my screen wakes up normally to show me the missed call notification. Any solution?? I have no fingerprint lock or pass code lock. Just swipe.
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Things i'd like to see fixed in the next update (L29)

Overall this phone has been way above expectations. There are a few quirks that hopefully will get addressed in a future update and hopefully Huawei is watching...
1. USB charging from laptop/desktop/car. It trickle charges at 200ma, most other phones charge at 1 amp and up connected to my car. Same with my laptop. Not having good charging in the car is a problem because I cannot use another charger with Android Auto, I have to have it plugged into the car's USB port. All my other phones would get at least 1 AMP charging rates, I don't need super charging or anything, but 1 amp or what the car can support out would be nice.
2. Camera crashing. I have to reboot the phone almost every day because I go to fire up the camera app and it cannot connect to the camera. I am not a heavy camera users either, but I do use video chatting about an hour a day. Basically all the cameras front and back just go offline after some use.
3. Using a 3rd party launcher like Nova, it's fairly buggy, but it sounds like this fix is already in the works so we'll leave it at that.
4. When using gesture navigation the left and right swipes for back need to be physically lowered on the screen to say the bottom third. There are a few apps that need this swiping action (Google play) that will close. I have to do the swipe way way up high to get the phone to not invoke the back button.
5. Less aggressive background task killing. I still have some things that get killed once in a while even with all the appropriate things set.
6. Some sort of on screen notification light or alert in conjunction with the always on screen so we can visually see at a glace if there is a message waiting. Just a simple flashing dot in the corner would do.
The only other thing I had noticed and this only happened once so might be a fluke was that the alarm clock failed to play my custom alarm tone, it instead played some fairly quiet beeping noise. Not good if you rely on the alarms waking you up.

The bugs I would like to see fixed are the gestures as well and the systemUI issue when using the minimum width setting in developer options and the fact that it resets after every reboot. Ive never had a camera issue with my device so I'm not sure if it's just related to something you have installed or just a glitch as I factory reset mine after I got it. Double tap to wake would be nice also.
What's buggy about Nova Launcher? It's working perfectly on my end.

ajsmsg78 said:
The bugs I would like to see fixed are the gestures as well and the systemUI issue when using the minimum width setting in developer options and the fact that it resets after every reboot. Ive never had a camera issue with my device so I'm not sure if it's just related to something you have installed or just a glitch as I factory reset mine after I got it. Double tap to wake would be nice also.
What's buggy about Nova Launcher? It's working perfectly on my end.
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Double tap to wake is a good one...
Nova Launcher - when swiping up to go to the home screen, most of the time it actually goes to the recent tasks. But I thought others that didn't use gestures had alot more issues?
I will clear data and cache on the camera app and see if that does any thing.... Possibly its the Line app I use for video chatting as that uses the camera alot.

omniphil said:
Double tap to wake is a good one...
Nova Launcher - when swiping up to go to the home screen, most of the time it actually goes to the recent tasks. But I thought others that didn't use gestures had alot more issues?
I will clear data and cache on the camera app and see if that does any thing.... Possibly its the Line app I use for video chatting as that uses the camera alot.
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Install OnePlus gestures from the Play Store (it's cheap) and use that. It will override the Huawei bottom gestures. You'll still have the Huawei side gestures though.

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Install OnePlus gestures from the Play Store (it's cheap) and use that. It will override the Huawei bottom gestures. You'll still have the Huawei side gestures though.
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Thanks for the tip, that is a good workaround!
Except for the persistent notification you can't turn off....

ajsmsg78 said:
Install OnePlus gestures from the Play Store (it's cheap) and use that. It will override the Huawei bottom gestures. You'll still have the Huawei side gestures though.
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omniphil said:
Thanks for the tip, that is a good workaround!
Except for the persistent notification you can't turn off....
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Download fluid gestures from the store. Far superior to Huawei and OnePlus.
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omniphil said:
Overall this phone has been way above expectations. There are a few quirks that hopefully will get addressed in a future update and hopefully Huawei is watching...
1. USB charging from laptop/desktop/car. It trickle charges at 200ma, most other phones charge at 1 amp and up connected to my car. Same with my laptop. Not having good charging in the car is a problem because I cannot use another charger with Android Auto, I have to have it plugged into the car's USB port. All my other phones would get at least 1 AMP charging rates, I don't need super charging or anything, but 1 amp or what the car can support out would be nice.
2. Camera crashing. I have to reboot the phone almost every day because I go to fire up the camera app and it cannot connect to the camera. I am not a heavy camera users either, but I do use video chatting about an hour a day. Basically all the cameras front and back just go offline after some use.
3. Using a 3rd party launcher like Nova, it's fairly buggy, but it sounds like this fix is already in the works so we'll leave it at that.
4. When using gesture navigation the left and right swipes for back need to be physically lowered on the screen to say the bottom third. There are a few apps that need this swiping action (Google play) that will close. I have to do the swipe way way up high to get the phone to not invoke the back button.
5. Less aggressive background task killing. I still have some things that get killed once in a while even with all the appropriate things set.
6. Some sort of on screen notification light or alert in conjunction with the always on screen so we can visually see at a glace if there is a message waiting. Just a simple flashing dot in the corner would do.
The only other thing I had noticed and this only happened once so might be a fluke was that the alarm clock failed to play my custom alarm tone, it instead played some fairly quiet beeping noise. Not good if you rely on the alarms waking you up.
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1. They won't change it. This is why the have a super charger for the car.
2. Never had a single camera issue.
3. Nova works like a champ. Uninstall stock launcher via ADB. Install fluid gestures from store, ZERO problems.
4. Use Fluid Gestures from play store.
5. You can change the background killing in development settings. To be less aggressive.
6. Won't happen. Have to find a workaround.
??

antiochasylum said:
Download fluid gestures from the store. Far superior to Huawei and OnePlus.
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1. They won't change it. This is why the have a super charger for the car.
2. Never had a single camera issue.
3. Nova works like a champ. Uninstall stock launcher via ADB. Install fluid gestures from store, ZERO problems.
4. Use Fluid Gestures from play store.
5. You can change the background killing in development settings. To be less aggressive.
6. Won't happen. Have to find a workaround.
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Fluid Gestures is indeed better than OnePlus Gestures...
1. A Car supercharger wont work with Android Auto, I can't imagine this is intentional as with any generic wall charger and cable I get about 2 amp charge rates.

Thanks a bunch for the Fluid Gestures. I always swiped to the home screen.

antiochasylum said:
Download fluid gestures from the store. Far superior to Huawei and OnePlus.
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I was finally able to get ADB working and grant Fluid Gesture the capability to remove the navigation bar, however what I notice is that any time my keyboard is on screen (Swiftkey) the navigation buttons show up at the bottom again.
Are you guys seeing this too?
EDIT: I found the option to disable this in Fluid Gestures!

Set the system navigation to gestures. Fluid over rides it. No more navbar and perfect working gestures

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Set the system navigation to gestures. Fluid over rides it. No more navbar and perfect working gestures
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Unfortunately that doesn't work. The Huawei gestures still run and work. If I swipe in from the right edge up high above the Fluid Gestures region the Huawei gesture does kick off unfortunately.
But I am able to disable the Huawei gestures completely and this is now working good. Especially since with Fluid I can disable only the left gesture, which make sliding out the Google Play drawer from the left work great now without closing the app.

omniphil said:
I was finally able to get ADB working and grant Fluid Gesture the capability to remove the navigation bar, however what I notice is that any time my keyboard is on screen (Swiftkey) the navigation buttons show up at the bottom again.
Are you guys seeing this too?
EDIT: I found the option to disable this in Fluid Gestures!
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While you're on your PC using adb I would also disable the Huawei launcher and any other apps you don't use. I got rid of about 60 apps that I don't use, most of them were Huawei ones like email, calendar, dialer, contacts etc.

ajsmsg78 said:
While you're on your PC using adb I would also disable the Huawei launcher and any other apps you don't use. I got rid of about 60 apps that I don't use, most of them were Huawei ones like email, calendar, dialer, contacts etc.
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I'd love to do that, but i'm afraid of breaking something I can't back out of....
When you say Disable do you mean delete?

omniphil said:
I'd love to do that, but i'm afraid of breaking something I can't back out of....
When you say Disable do you mean delete?
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It disables the apps. Just remove the launcher and the small Huawei things like email or whatever you don't use. You can leave everything else to be safe.

I'd like to see some camera updates.
The portrait mode for both the front and rear cameras are subpar. They don't perform as well as the GCam found on the 6T, let alone the actual GCam on Pixel phones.
I'm also experiencing Bluetooth issues with my headphones. They'll connect but audio will be significantly chopped up and delayed. I have to disconnect them and reconnect sometimes, and last time I had to unpair them.
Also would like to see better use of screen real estate. It looks bad having 5 quick setting tiles per row on such a big phone. 6 or even 7 would look great.

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Unfortunately that doesn't work. The Huawei gestures still run and work. If I swipe in from the right edge up high above the Fluid Gestures region the Huawei gesture does kick off unfortunately.
But I am able to disable the Huawei gestures completely and this is now working good. Especially since with Fluid I can disable only the left gesture, which make sliding out the Google Play drawer from the left work great now without closing the app.
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How did you remove the Gestures? Is there a specific app to remove via ADB?

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How did you remove the Gestures? Is there a specific app to remove via ADB?
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They are off by default, It's under System Navigation.
Just leave Three-key navigation on and the system won't do gestures, then in fluid you do the ADB permissions to enable it to hide the Huawei bar.

UPDATE
So after using the phone for a while now, I'd like to update my original list of things that need addressing....
1. The constant crashing with the camera appears to have been fixed with a factory reset, so that is now fixed!
2. With Fluid Gestures it seems we have a decent work around for gesture controls with 3rd party launchers.
3. Less aggressive background task killing. I still have things once in a while that don't notify me on time with messages. When I open the app then the notifications come right in, this tells me the app is getting killed in the background. (Happens most frequently with the messaging app "Line")
4. I'd still really like some sort of notification icon on the screen with the always on screen, but I guess that's not a huge deal.
5. Really the only major thing is the USB charging at super slow speeds from my laptop or in the car. 200ma is just way too slow and is not like any other phone charging from the same sources.

omniphil said:
Overall this phone has been way above expectations. There are a few quirks that hopefully will get addressed in a future update and hopefully Huawei is watching...
2. Camera crashing. I have to reboot the phone almost every day because I go to fire up the camera app and it cannot connect to the camera. I am not a heavy camera users either, but I do use video chatting about an hour a day. Basically all the cameras front and back just go offline after some use.
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Do you have the width setting in developer options on something other than the default? I noticed the camera crashed a lot when I had it set to 600 dp. Now I left it back to the default of 423 dp (text and screen at smallest settings). Icons and screen settings are still too big for me but everything is working fine.
Praying for root soon.

n1tro said:
Do you have the width setting in developer options on something other than the default? I noticed the camera crashed a lot when I had it set to 600 dp. Now I left it back to the default of 423 dp (text and screen at smallest settings). Icons and screen settings are still too big for me but everything is working fine.
Praying for root soon.
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I didn't change anything in developer settings, I just move the 2 sliders in the display setting all the way to the smallest size.
But Factory Reset did fixed the camera crashing.....

Android 10 Experience After The Update

Hello All,
Hope You All Are Doing Great !
As Subject Describes The Purpose Of This Forum. Here We Can Share And Discuss After The Update Of Android 10.
As Far As My Experience.
Phone Working Good
Battery Timing Is Normal As Before
Great Gesture Experience
Dark Mode Is Working Fine
Here Are The Some Snapshots Of Android 10
Have A Nice Day...
Thanks & Regards,
MUHAMMAD Asif Qasim

Check for update and no update???
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When update to android 10 will be available again??

So far noticed that the favorites apps in app drawer sometimes doesn't show all 5 apps, threre are five dark spots on the nav bar and some BT devices have a much lower volume.

miloske83 said:
Check for update and no update?
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When update to android 10 will be available again?
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Due to the large number of people having problems (boot loop, black screen) with certain LCD/TP combinations, I assume Xiaomi have withdrawn the update.

I'm from Brazil and my signal is very poor after Android 10 most of the times it automatically changes from 4g to 3g... Any thoughts?

xbs said:
So far noticed that the favorites apps in app drawer sometimes doesn't show all 5 apps, threre are five dark spots on the nav bar and some BT devices have a much lower volume.
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Dear Xbs,
Yes, You Are Right I Can Also Confirm That There Are Dark Spots On The Screen Bottom.

Carol Barros said:
I'm from Brazil and my signal is very poor after Android 10 most of the times it automatically changes from 4g to 3g... Any thoughts?
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Carol Barros,
I Mostly Use 4G In Office And Didn't Face Any Issue. May Be Someone Can Confirm.

Carol Barros said:
I'm from Brazil and my signal is very poor after Android 10 most of the times it automatically changes from 4g to 3g... Any thoughts?
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I'm also from Brazil and noticed the same thing yesterday, kept getting 3G on my university and I would always gat 4G before the update.

aasiaasi said:
Dear Xbs,
Yes, You Are Right I Can Also Confirm That There Are Dark Spots On The Screen Bottom.
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omg i thought i was the only one, five dark circle spots appeared where the navbar used to be after android 10 i presumed the screen was done for, could this be an issue with android 10 and can it be fixed with a SW update?

xbs said:
So far noticed that the favorites apps in app drawer sometimes doesn't show all 5 apps, threre are five dark spots on the nav bar and some BT devices have a much lower volume.
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This defect of the dark points, can be interpreted as hardware damage?

IlSaro said:
This defect of the dark points, can be interpreted as hardware damage?
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Dear IlSaro,
I Don't Think So This Hardware Has Damaged As Before The Update There Was No Dark Spot. This Should Be Fixed With New March Update.

aasiaasi said:
Dear IlSaro,
I Don't Think So This Hardware Has Damaged As Before The Update There Was No Dark Spot. This Should Be Fixed With New March Update.
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i hope so but it looks like the lcd hardware got damaged while updating so idk if a software update will fix it.

It does not have to be damaged hardware. I think this might be a driver problem where some of the backlight led are not triggered correctly. We will see with the next patch.
Sadly i am not so happy with the update.
The darkmode is quite nice, but reading in sunlight is difficult in some apps. Gmail for example is really hard to read in darkmode when you are outside and the sun is shining. Would be nice to have a quick option the switch between darkmode and normal. You can put a shortcut in the Top menu, so everything is fine here.
Gesture Control is also a mixed bag for me. While it works fine overall there are some problems, sadly especially with the apps that uses googles material concept for menus. A swipe from the left normally opens the menu. Now it also is the "back" button and clashes with it. You now have to make a awkward gesture (starting left, going down and right diagonal) to open the menu or you have to use the button for the menu. But this sits at the top left of the screen so good look reaching there with one hand.
Dual Sim is bad now because you can no longer deaktivate a single sim. I don't know why this is removed.
The camera plays sounds on taking a picture even if you deactived the sounds in the camera app. And if you active them, you get two sounds at once.
Support for third party launchers with gesture controll completly does not work.
And we got a message to customize our pixel in the settings. Which is a little bit useless because i do not use a pixel phone here.
Overall i don't think the update is very good. Feels rushed and not really tested.

johnwho2410 said:
It does not have to be damaged hardware. I think this might be a driver problem where some of the backlight led are not triggered correctly. We will see with the next patch.
Sadly i am not so happy with the update.
The darkmode is quite nice, but reading in sunlight is difficult in some apps. Gmail for example is really hard to read in darkmode when you are outside and the sun is shining. Would be nice to have a quick option the switch between darkmode and normal.
Gesture Control is also a mixed bag for me. While it works fine overall there are some problems, sadly especially with the apps that uses googles material concept for menus. A swipe from the left normally opens the menu. Now it also is the "back" button and clashes with it. You now have to make a awkward gesture (starting left, going down and right diagonal) to open the menu or you have to use the button for the menu. But this sits at the top left of the screen so good look reaching there with one hand.
Dual Sim is bad now because you can no longer deaktivate a single sim. I don't know why this is removed.
The camera plays sounds on taking a picture even if you deactived the sounds in the camera app. And if you active them, you get two sounds at once.
Support for third party launchers with gesture controll completly does not work.
And we got a message to customize our pixel in the settings. Which is a little bit useless because i do not use a pixel phone here.
Overall i don't think the update is very good. Feels rushed and not really tested.
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I confirm the lack of dual-sim settings but apart from the small gray areas at the bottom, which could be eliminated in the future update, I do not detect other bugs.
After the update, however, I made a complete reset

I confirm the pixel reminder and the third party launcher gestures not working at all.

Problems so far:
When i scroll your screenshots from the first post, i got lot of lagg (please try for your self in Xda app + Android 10).
Also, two or three times, I'm experiencing random reboots from some apps.
I noticed random drops on both wifi bands (2.4 & 5 GHz).
Worse strength of 4G mobile signal.
Slower response from fingerprint sensor.
Very common graphical glitches on home screen.
Worst battery life.
Maximum brightness is now lower than earlier in previous version of Android.

The overall performance is good and gestures are fast and don't usually lag.
The bugs I've detected are:
- Five dim spots on the bottom of the screen, they show up just a second after the Android One logo appear when booting up or restarting.
- much worse cell signal reception.
- (edit, fixed with reboot) No microphone most of the times (WhatsApp and telegram voice notes are silent, assistant and Google voice search don't work, "ok Google" doesn't trigger, etc.) and low volume when recording videos.
- Still no vibration for WhatsApp, telegram, signal... calls when DND is active and set up to allow calls from anyone. Regular phone calls do vibrate as expected.
- Battery seems to drain faster?

Can I ask if anybody can confirm if Bluetooth audio codecs can be selected, as it has been broke for months andd never fixed, can you set aac on aac headphones?
Sorry 10 is not on my device as it bricked it

johnwho2410 said:
It does not have to be damaged hardware. I think this might be a driver problem where some of the backlight led are not triggered correctly. We will see with the next patch.
Sadly i am not so happy with the update.
The darkmode is quite nice, but reading in sunlight is difficult in some apps. Gmail for example is really hard to read in darkmode when you are outside and the sun is shining. Would be nice to have a quick option the switch between darkmode and normal.
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You can put a "dark mode" tile in quick settings.
If you move it to the first 6 tiles, you can switch dark mode on or off after one single slide down of QS.

IkkeZelf1000 said:
You can put a "dark mode" tile in quick settings.
If you move it to the first 6 tiles, you can switch dark mode on or off after one single slide down of QS.
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Oh, thanks for this information. Did not see this. Ok, then i am cool with the dark mode

Flex mode ruined...

Am I the only one who thinks the flex mode in the new one ui 3.1.1 is a serious downgrade ? Not only they removed the ability to resize the split, which is a major thing for me, they also oversimplified the controls.
For example: while watching a video on chrome. I used to fold and it would have a big bar for me to position precisely the video time, while telling me the duration of the video and which time it was currently. It had a brightness and sound slider at all times.
And now we just get a tiny slider for the video, a button for each brightness and sound, and i cant resize the damn window split. For me personally is very frustrating since it's something i use on a regular basis. And if i try to use multistar like i was, it will just send me to the new labs settings.
Anyone else who thinks it's worse, or it's something no one but me uses ? Does anyone know a work around or way to go back to the old style ? Thank you.

I agree. I noticed it on my ZF3. YouTube doesn't even give you the player on the bottom half now.