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A few threads have been removed the past few hours. These are regarding a leaked radio which is known to brick devices and has been taken from a compromised server.
Reposting will not be tolerated. Distribution through PM, or even hinting that you may be available to spread it through PM or other methods, will be treated as open reposting. "Vacations" will be dealt out to those who do so.
This is both for your own good as for the good of others. Some of you are able to read between the lines - I have read it in your posts - and good for you.
Have patience, it will come.
if you build it they will come...
Thanks for posting. This should really be a stickied topic as its a highly talked about subject.
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Thanks for posting. This should really be a stickied topic as its a highly talked about subject.
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ahh i see they listend to you
So that new radio that dissapeared is Mega crap also huh? How did wwe figure this out if knowone hardly has it. Just wondering I read it was an older version then the one currently being used by people like me. Is that a fact?
Who exactly did it brick? It is working fine here.
Master™ said:
Who exactly did it brick? It is working fine here.
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+1
and it locks GPS way faster!!
+1..same here...everything just seem smoother or its probably just me
Master™ said:
Who exactly did it brick? It is working fine here.
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I think the important thing is to protect sources. Not sure if it is bricking or not. Though I don't want to be the one to find out.
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I'm not sure, but this probably means GB release is very soon? Wouldn't that make sense?
It got pulled off every site within 2 mins. I just got lucky enough to snag it. But I will not distribute so please no pms asking for it
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I decided not to download it I'll wait and see what the devs say on it.
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bamf team is coming out with a new sense 3.0 rom(there is a preview zip available in the bamf 2 beta thread) so im guessing there is something coming soon, he seemed to stop once the brick issue came about, so why else would they and others update and create new roms for GB radios.
It wont brink you, its just to protect sources and legal issues probably. Im using it and its much better than the first leak, only got one reboot in the few hours my phone was on
Nikolai2.1 said:
It wont brink you, its just to protect sources and legal issues probably. Im using it and its much better than the first leak, only got one reboot in the few hours my phone was on
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Maybe I should have downloaded it while I had the chance.
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Maybe I should have downloaded it while I had the chance.
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thats kind of how i feel.
Guys please DO NOT PM people asking for it, I have already received one and rejected it. No one wants to get banned over something stupid. You will live I promise. Anyone who receives a PM, whether you think you'll get caught or not, please do the right thing and kindly reject them.
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Guys please DO NOT PM people asking for it, I have already received one and rejected it. No one wants to get banned over something stupid. You will live I promise. Anyone who receives a PM, whether you think you'll get caught or not, please do the right thing and kindly reject them.
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its surprising how people cant wait, im aching to have it as well and pissed i didnt dl it but like the OP said have patience, it will come
and im thinking its a lot sooner rather than later
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/05/18/090518fa_fact_lehrer
seemed on topic with the whole not waiting thing
Pithism said:
its surprising how people cant wait, im aching to have it as well and pissed i didnt dl it but like the OP said have patience, it will come
and im thinking its a lot sooner rather than later
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The fact that we have an MR2 Radio means GB could be right around the corner. I have had one reboot with it, (although that might have been a fluke, as the phone had 3% battery left), and so far it is very stable, and I wouldn't be surprised to see an official build out soon.
Hello all,
I need a sbf rom for the atrix2.
We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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916x10 said:
We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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not a waste of time, just no way of flashing it right now
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We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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sbf is NOT a custom rom. its a stock flash.
i dont think you fully understand the bootloader on the atrix....please keep the negativity towards the devs out of here.
As of right now all we really need to use is factory reset if something gets messed up. Custom Roms sounds nice but I'm more interested in overclock this puppy and adding some extra lock screens. *sits and waits patiently*
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As of right now all we really need to use is factory reset if something gets messed up. Custom Roms sounds nice but I'm more interested in overclock this puppy and adding some extra lock screens. *sits and waits patiently*
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i think at the moment, as SBF is more important than a custom rom. we NEED the ability to go back to factory...
Sbf is step 1 toward getting the Atrix 2 development friendly.
I laughed out loud when I saw your post on the official moto forum, cheetablaze, it was a good try though.
We don't typically provide these files to the consumers as they are not customer friendly.
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More like THEY'RE not customer friendly.
I was messaging the admin all night and he wouldn't do it. Said he could give it up. But there's no reason to yet. Maybe after an update is officially released he will give it up. I'll keep complaining also lol
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I was messaging the admin all night and he wouldn't do it. Said he could give it up. But there's no reason to yet. Maybe after an update is officially released he will give it up. I'll keep complaining also lol
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i was impressed that they immediately locked the thread as well.
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sbf is NOT a custom rom. its a stock flash.
i dont think you fully understand the bootloader on the atrix....please keep the negativity towards the devs out of here.
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Did I say it was a custom rom or did you assume thats what I meant? What did I say negatively about any dev? I'll be the first to admit I dont know jack about the bootloader, thats no secret, hence my thread asking why its necessary to unlock it to dev roms for it. Thats all.
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What is this bashing people at xda ? Atrix 2 owners need a sbf and respectable member for providing the sbf is daywalker04, pm him and ask for the sbf. He will ask for some files from your phone and then he will try to locate the file for all of us.
Please keep nice and dont let anyone ruin atrix2 forums like they did at the original atrix forums.
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Did I say it was a custom rom or did you assume thats what I meant? What did I say negatively about any dev? I'll be the first to admit I dont know jack about the bootloader, thats no secret, hence my thread asking why its necessary to unlock it to dev roms for it. Thats all.
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re-read your comment. if it wasnt meant to be derogatory, then fine. you made it sound as if devs owed you a rom, even if it was stock based. i dont think you understand what devving a rom entails. please stop comparing this to the sony you used to have. i can tell you from my experience with motorola, htc, and samsung that none of them are similar....im going to assume that sony would be different as well. just because something works for one device does NOT mean it will work for another. same reason we couldnt get anything really decent over on the atrix until the BL was unlocked. every device is different, some even within the same manufacturer dont act the same as another within. patience, please. i dont know if you noticed, but there arent exactly a ton of developers coming over to the atrix2 side of things right now. we will work with what we have. now that i have my vivid, i can start focusing on tearing up the atrix 2.
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We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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What is this bashing people at xda ? Atrix 2 owners need a sbf and respectable member for providing the sbf is daywalker04, pm him and ask for the sbf. He will ask for some files from your phone and then he will try to locate the file for all of us.
Please keep nice and dont let anyone ruin atrix2 forums like they did at the original atrix forums.
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agreed. i came over here from atrix forums in hopes that we could have a nice community without all the BS that took place over there.
i will talk to daywalker04 and see if he can assist.
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agreed. i came over here from atrix forums in hopes that we could have a nice community without all the BS that took place over there.
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I agree totally!!!
the x10 forums were horrible.
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re-read your comment. if it wasnt meant to be derogatory, then fine. you made it sound as if devs owed you a rom, even if it was stock based. i dont think you understand what devving a rom entails. please stop comparing this to the sony you used to have. i can tell you from my experience with motorola, htc, and samsung that none of them are similar....im going to assume that sony would be different as well. just because something works for one device does NOT mean it will work for another. same reason we couldnt get anything really decent over on the atrix until the BL was unlocked. every device is different, some even within the same manufacturer dont act the same as another within. patience, please. i dont know if you noticed, but there arent exactly a ton of developers coming over to the atrix2 side of things right now.
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LMAO. You come at me sideways based on your assumption and/or misinterpretation and the best you could come up with is "fine"? Not even an attempt at an apology or acceptance of your inappropriate reaction? Wow, ok. Seems kind of counterproductive to your wanting a peaceful forum with no bashing when you're the one coming in pointing the finger at me for doing something I didnt even do. And then you cant even man up and own the fact that you overreacted and apologize for doing so. Sweet!
I've already made it clear my level of understanding of not only the Android system but also the Atrix 2, not gonna rehash that.
Check my resume here on xda, I have never been one of those guys who felt like any developer owed me anything! I'm always appreciative of anything I have ever gotten from them and have even donated to a couple (unsolicited) to show my appreciation for their work so for you to even insinuate anything other ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS BASED YOUR MISINTERPRETATION AND/OR MISUNDERSTANDING of what I said is offensive and disrespectful.
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LMAO. You come at me sideways based on your assumption and/or misinterpretation and the best you could come up with is "fine"? Not even an attempt at an apology or acceptance of your inappropriate reaction? Wow, ok. Seems kind of counterproductive to your wanting a peaceful forum with no bashing when you're the one coming in pointing the finger at me for doing something I didnt even do. And then you cant even man up and own the fact that you overreacted and apologize for doing so. Sweet!
I've already made it clear my level of understanding of not only the Android system but also the Atrix 2, not gonna rehash that.
Check my resume here on xda, I have never been one of those guys who felt like any developer owed me anything! I'm always appreciative of anything I have ever gotten from them and have even donated to a couple (unsolicited) to show my appreciation for their work so for you to even insinuate anything other ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS BASED YOUR MISINTERPRETATION AND/OR MISUNDERSTANDING of what I said is offensive and disrespectful.
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take 5 minutes.
go read your post again from the perspective of someone thats working on a rom already, then come back here and tell me it didnt sound bad. it sounded resentful that nobody had spit out any roms for you to play with yet.
its people like you that make me want to get rid of the phone or keep all my work to myself.
im done with this conversation. i dont owe you an apology or a rom. from now on, all my work will be elsewhere for the a2...
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take 5 minutes.
go read your post again from the perspective of someone thats working on a rom already, then come back here and tell me it didnt sound bad. it sounded resentful that nobody had spit out any roms for you to play with yet.
its people like you that make me want to get rid of the phone or keep all my work to myself.
im done with this conversation. i dont owe you an apology or a rom. from now on, all my work will be elsewhere for the a2...
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There was NOTHING negative about me saying apparrently the devs feel its a waste of time to dev a stock based rom. How you can conclude that I feel like a dev owes me a rom or that im being negative towards them is beyond me.
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Don't bite the hand that feeds you. xD He's really the only guy working toward anything major for the A2 and you're post did kinda sound like it's an expectation that a rom be made for us.
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Don't bite the hand that feeds you. xD He's really the only guy working toward anything major for the A2 and you're post did kinda sound like it's an expectation that a rom be made for us.
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Sorry guy, he's nowhere near that important to me. If I said "koriflame doesnt like milk", does that sound like I meant that you should like milk?
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Sorry guy, he's nowhere near that important to me.
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i hope you do get a dev that will put up with your attitude, because i sure as hell wont.
good luck fellas!
I have to say I love my Atrix 2 but This forum is so dead we have to have the most inactive thread of all the phones here on XDA I mean brand new phones have more going on then we do I mean ok locked bootloader ooh ok that means work with what we got damn I mean a graveyard has more life then this forum holy crap
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I have to say I love my Atrix 2 but This forum is so dead we have to have the most inactive thread of all the phones here on XDA I mean brand new phones have more going on then we do I mean ok locked bootloader ooh ok that means work with what we got damn I mean a graveyard has more life then this forum holy crap
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how much action do you want?
right now we have some great rom's and superdooper developers, we are kinda dead in the water right now until we get the ICS leak and hopefully an unlocked bootloader.
keep checking cheesecake and help contribute!
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I have to say I love my Atrix 2 but This forum is so dead we have to have the most inactive thread of all the phones here on XDA I mean brand new phones have more going on then we do I mean ok locked bootloader ooh ok that means work with what we got damn I mean a graveyard has more life then this forum holy crap
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If all you are looking for is "action" in a forum regarding a phone and the development thereof, then you might have more luck elsewhere -that might go without saying. But I have to agree with matt99017d on this, in that we absolutely have some kick A$$ devs and beyond working on their own free time (for freakin' free) to make this phone even more awesome.
As far as "life" in other forums, sure... they're out there. I've looked. However, xda is the one that I as well as many others choose because of the civility, helpfulness, and knowledge (both explored and continuing) that makes this forum great.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying leave, but don't slam on this forum because of 'this' or 'that' regarding bootloaders or activity or whatever. On the other side of that coin, you do know where the door is. Just don't leave without the understanding AND the respect, gratitude, and appreciation for what the guys such as jimbridgman, rdavisct, alteredlikeness, JRW 28, lkrasner, daavvis, Fall of Enosis, mtnlion, farshad525hou, dickluo, xanadu, 916x10, KEB64, jfrank1485, tmease1, and many others have done for you, and the rest of us.
*My two cents: take it or leave in the penny tray for someone else.
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I have to say I love my Atrix 2 but This forum is so dead we have to have the most inactive thread of all the phones here on XDA I mean brand new phones have more going on then we do I mean ok locked bootloader ooh ok that means work with what we got damn I mean a graveyard has more life then this forum holy crap
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Wait, are you kidding me? Have you seen what the devs have to work with atm and what they still manage to push out? This phone is just getting started. We have awesome ROMs being pushed out weekly pretty much and we already have 1 working ICS Leak for the International MB865 and ME865. If you're on AT&T, be patient because obviously there has to be an ICS ROM in production and it's just a matter of time before we find it on Cheesecake. The forums for the Atrix 2 are far from dead and if you think they're dead, take a stroll through the dev section every once in a while. I'm not trying to sound mean or rude or anything, just be patient because the development is just getting started. We have an awesome phone here, the potential is there and is beginning to be used!
You work with what you got. If your not helping then why you complaining? Thread locked. If I where you I'd be more grateful of the developer you do have and learn from them.
Cheers
Scott had locked both of his threads thanks to a few xda members who had problems, and decided to take it out on him.
I think those people who blamed him should apologize, instead of being selfish and ruining for us all.
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Scott had locked both of his threads thanks to a few xda members who had problems, and decided to take it out on him.
I think those people who blamed him should apologize, instead of being selfish and ruining for us all.
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Yeah congratulations morons
*golfclaps*
I'm amazed at how some people can act like little children.
I never used any of Scott's work before but I've heard he turned out some pretty kickass stuff.
*sigh* People will never learn.
When people ignore mods telling them to knock it off, you know it's not going to end well.
Maybe a timeout for a day or two will let cooler heads prevail in the end.
I understand, if I was in Scott's position I would probably do the same. I just thinks it's funny how things clearly say what to do, and someone still messes it up.
I just sucks that people have to take it so far as to blame the dev for not doing something. When it for one flashing any thing has always been at your own risk, and two getting pissed off, and posting a nasty thread instead of just asking for help politely.
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kleeman7 said:
Scott had locked both of his threads thanks to a few xda members who had problems, and decided to take it out on him.
I think those people who blamed him should apologize, instead of being selfish and ruining for us all.
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NOOOOOOOO! Cant we kust kick those retards off XDA, Scott please come back!
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NOOOOOOOO! Cant we kust kick those retards off XDA, Scott please come back!
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I'm pretty sure he is on his rom forums, maybe, just maybe if those people apologize, and we all ask nicely he may come back.
His work is great, I mean the s3 forums are donating to get him a phone. That alone should say something.
Now we are down to, we'll one sense rom that is kept up. And our aosp roms which can't progress much more without source.
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This totally blows. His roms were great and that's all I rocked since the very beginning. I can't blame him at all. Hopefully within time maybe he can return. There are plenty of people that are greatful for his time and work.
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I agree... Ban them, god I hope Scott comes back, one of the only reasons to keep this phone. I was worried and stated that this could happen, I saw it in the Vivid thread.
I hope he reads this and realizes that there are way more that appreciate his work more then complain about it. If he did leave I can't say I blame him, just hope it doesn't happen
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So I have a few choice words that I think this entire forum should read, but its mainly directed to whomever was talking crap about Scott. And I don't know who it was. And I apologize for the occasional profanity, but its stuff like this that really hits home for me.
As developers, we try to enhance the user experience of our phones for the good of the community. We don't get anything out of developing besides the occasional donation that someone gives us since they like our work. We aren't forced to do the work that we do. I can turn around right now and cease all development on the two ROMs I do (AOKP and Evervolv) for this phone. But I don't. Want to know why? Because of all the people in the threads saying "Wow, this ROM is awesome! Thanks Rohan!" and "This made my phone really awesome! Thanks!". If I didn't have those people then I wouldn't feel like updating the ROM. Even if you aren't using my ROMs and you drop in to say "This looks awesome, though I will wait for more stability!" That feels good too since you know someone still liked your work.
When you have someone calling you "selfish" and "annoying" it gets to you. When you put your work out, you want it to be the best. When it isn't the best, you try to make it the best. Thats why I and every other developer on XDA update and fix bugs. We want the ROM to be the best it can be. Thats why I stay up regularly till 2 AM looking up new Android features and the Platform Guide on the android developer site. I want to become a better developer for the community. Not for myself, but for the community. When you have someone degrading yourself, you feel like ****. And when you don't feel good about your work, you feel like the community is not enjoying your work. At that point it becomes a "why bother even updating this" sort of thing.
So when someone is being an asshat in the forums against you, it hurts. If you think that putting these ROMs out benefits us, the developers in any way besides the infrequent donation, you are sorely mistaken. We put these ROMs out for the community. I enjoy making ROMs for the community because I like to see all of the "Great job!" posts in my thread. It vindicates my work and proves me right that I can indeed make a ROM people like. Sure, the donations are an added plus and they help as well.
And now onto the "selfish" part of that statement. Are. you. effing. kidding. me. Seriously? You call us selfish. After staying up late hours to get a ROM out for YOU, you turn around and call us selfish? I dont even know what to say to that statement. We are not "selfish." You think putting our name onto a ROM is the best prize in the world? Why the flying f*** would we need that? So that people know my name? Are you effing kidding me?
So whomever it was, GTFO. The work that we do as developers benefits nobody but the people of these forums. We, the developers help make XDA how great it is. If you don't want to deal with developers, please, go back to stock. We don't need you to run our ROMs.
And to the rest of you, thank you for showing your support. Its a sad day when someone as nice as Scott is lost due to a few spoilt brats in the forums. And please, if you are using a custom ROM and you are enjoying it, tell your developer that you like it. Tell them that this phone became better because of their work. I promise you that we read the posts when we have time. And whenever we do it makes us feel a bit more warm and fuzzy inside.
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+1 for hoping Scott ignores the bullies and comes back. His work has made a good phone great for me!
-- Jon
Awesome post dude agree 100%
Also hint hint the DB is the one posting in your aokp thread.
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Son of a ......
This is why you can't have nice things. Fraking whiners.
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So the little whiney, self-entitled b!tches of xda strike again. Seriously, f*ck all of you little twerps that posted anything disrespectful to Scott. He's amazing, and makes an amazing ROM and you should all be ashamed of yourselves for driving him away. I swear to god, I hate what xda has become. there are only a select few that put in any hard work for the rest to reap the benefits of, and there are always a sh!t ton of brats who think that they paid for these ROMs when they paid for their phones. It doesn't work that way, you sniveling little d!ckheads. These devs don't work for the manufacturers, the carriers, or xda- they do it FOR FREE, FOR US, because they kick ass, and they deserve nothing but respect from ALL OF US. Seriously, I am issuing a blanket F*CK YOU to every douche on xda who ever talked sh!t to or about any dev here.
I am going to go through his threads and anyone I see talking any sh!t to or about Scott is from here on out permanently banned from receiving ANY of my case giveaways.
Gunny, kleeman, rohan, or any of the other forum regulars that I interact with on a regular basis, if you would be so kind as to help point out who the offenders are it would be greatly appreciated.
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Son of a ......
This is why you can't have nice things. Fraking whiners.
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+1.
This thread MAY or may not be related.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761429
And MAY or may not be the 3rd poster.
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This thread MAY or may not be related.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761429
And MAY or may not be the 3rd poster.
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Yeah, that was the first one that grabbed my attention in the CleanROM SE thread.
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Yeah, that was the first one that grabbed my attention in the CleanROM SE thread.
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Ah f it I'll just come out and say it. Yep that's the DB!
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Yeah, that was the first one that grabbed my attention in the CleanROM SE thread.
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Sad thing is like at least 4 people had the same issue, and it's all from lack of reading.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Scott state a long time ago like cleanrom 2.1 days that CWM caused issues? And Scott also said he loved CWM and hated to switch from it?
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Sad thing is like at least 4 people had the same issue, and it's all from lack of reading.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Scott state a long time ago like cleanrom 2.1 days that CWM caused issues? And Scott also said he loved CWM and hated to switch from it?
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Yep, back when the SD card wiping issues first started happening he told everyone not to use CWM and to use TWRP instead. Buuuut people don't want to do any actual reading so it becomes Scott's fault for not showing up at their doorstep and holding their hand for them when they flash his ROMs, cross the street, take a piss, what have you. Bottom line is if you flash, you assume ALL risk. It's your own damn fault for not reading. Even if you're flashing an updated version of the ROM you've been running for months, ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS read the entire OP for changelog, flash instructions, etc. The moron in question said that it's because his xda app didn't put the warning in red but bottom line is it was still there. Had he READ THE ENTIRE OP, he would have seen the warning whether it was red, green, blue or purple with pink polka dots. His own damn fault, and at this point I'm glad his phone got eff'd up. Serves him right.
Seriously guys, no offence but we have to stop putting up all these bounty threads. Bounties are only meant for things that no one has access to or kept in secret or something that is extremely complex or involves a vast amount of steps to create. Bounties are not for stuff like creating a ROM or modding something. If you need that, just place a simple request thread tagged with [REQ], since there are many developers out there already that can already create it for you. Please respect what bounties mean for this community or eventually the most important bounties will get lost in all the mess. Not looking to offend, but there were already several comments about this so consider this just a friendly PSA and reminder.
Agreed, im sick of the bounty threads. I vote we have a bounty for no more bounty threads and sticky it.
People just think that cause we don't have a Rom or feature that it is because developers didn't get money. When in fact they just don't have the device....
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Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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Thinking of making a bounty thread for a mod to stop allowing bounty threads lol
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Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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DID NOT mean to thank you. Joel will put out an awesome ROM and you will be glad that you did! He will not release something unless it is perfect, no alpha or betas with bugs in them.
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Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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Dem da breaks. He did say he was working on a bunch of bugs though.
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DID NOT mean to thank you. Joel will put out an awesome ROM and you will be glad that you did! He will not release something unless it is perfect, no alpha or betas with bugs in them.
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Dunno about that though. Coming from the Rez.
But I agree with the OP, people are basically trying to hire devs now lol.
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blestsol said:
Dem da breaks. He did say he was working on a bunch of bugs though.
Dunno about that though. Coming from the Rez.
But I agree with the OP, people are basically trying to hire devs now lol.
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I have a prediction that just like the fascinate, we had a very rough start, than once things go more popular things started getting ported. I remember when ICS was first really released, it was CNA, Gummy android, and AOKP, all were ports from the Nexus S I believe.
mikeew83 said:
Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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Dude just because you donated does not mean joelz owes you a ****in thing! I donated to joelz and have never used his work before. If he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well! I just like to support recognized devs to show appreciation.
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Dude just because you donated does not mean joelz owes you a ****in thing! I donated to joelz and have never used his work before. If he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well! I just like to support recognized devs to show appreciation.
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While I do agree with you but I don't agree with the "if he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well!". People who donated did it so they could have the ROM on the phone. If I donated n he never released the rom, I'd be pretty upset because thats the when reason the donation thread was made. It was made to bring his ROM to the S3 not just so he could have a free phone. But bamf was never known to pump out that many releases. They usually only releases stuff every once in a while since they aren't really buggy. I'm just surprised its taking this long. But then again I know nothing about ROM making
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xXJay_RXx said:
While I do agree with you but I don't agree with the "if he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well!". People who donated did it so they could have the ROM on the phone. If I donated n he never released the rom, I'd be pretty upset because thats the when reason the donation thread was made. It was made to bring his ROM to the S3 not just so he could have a free phone. But bamf was never known to pump out that many releases. They usually only releases stuff every once in a while since they aren't really buggy. I'm just surprised its taking this long. But then again I know nothing about ROM making
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Cant argue that... No doubt it would be pretty shady on joelz part if he didnt release a rom for the s3. Part of the reason to my previous post is that I most likely will be moving on to the note2. So there is a good chance that I wont get to use his rom even tho I donted to him.
BAMF has a build made. They don't release BETA's... They put out solid, daily drivers.. Trust me, it's worth the wait.
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Cant argue that... No doubt it would be pretty shady on joelz part if he didnt release a rom for the s3. Part of the reason to my previous post is that I most likely will be moving on to the note2. So there is a good chance that I wont get to use his rom even tho I donted to him.
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I feel you. I probably won't get to try it neither since I too will move to the Note 2 on release day. I used Joelz ROM on the Rezound n it was a great ROM
See you in the Note 2 forums in the future lol
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droidstyle said:
Dude just because you donated does not mean joelz owes you a ****in thing! I donated to joelz and have never used his work before. If he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well! I just like to support recognized devs to show appreciation.
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He kinda does owe his donators something. He was given the money to do a certain job per say. I think this guy probably just isn't familiar with how bamf/joelz works and sees everyone else pumping out release after release and thought joelz would do the same instead of pushing a quality release. Prime example is eclipse, that bounty was started and achieved well after joelz's and the release has been out for a week or more, granted half the stuff didnt/doesnt work at first tho.
All I'm sayin is I can see both sides of the coin, for someone who doesn't know joelz's work/habits and sees all the other ROMs being released one after another it's understandable to have thought he would have released one by now. Also it's understandable that he's taking his time and releasing something that is going to work 99.9% right off the bat instead of having umptine issues with it.
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Cant argue that... No doubt it would be pretty shady on joelz part if he didnt release a rom for the s3. Part of the reason to my previous post is that I most likely will be moving on to the note2. So there is a good chance that I wont get to use his rom even tho I donted to him.
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xXJay_RXx said:
I feel you. I probably won't get to try it neither since I too will move to the Note 2 on release day. I used Joelz ROM on the Rezound n it was a great ROM
See you in the Note 2 forums in the future lol
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That's your own guys' faults for not stickin with the s3 lol.
droidstyle said:
Dude just because you donated does not mean joelz owes you a ****in thing! I donated to joelz and have never used his work before. If he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well! I just like to support recognized devs to show appreciation.
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I must disagree with this statement as well. While most people donate once they try a rom they should not expect anything more once they donated for this.
I think when purchasing a device for someone is a different story. You are accepting the device as something you will develop on. The device is not being purchased to say thank you for your prior work. You have an unwritten obligation that you will develop something if you are going to accept the device. If you will not or cannot produce something you should be willing to send it to someone that will for the good of the community.
I know Joel has done some great stuff in the past and do not think he is trying to get over on anyone. I do believe he will produce something. It might leave a bad taste in some people's mouths though. Although once he releases a rom everyone seems to forget the past anyway. Lol
Bottom line is the only people who really have the right to complain are the people that donated for the device. All others can just watch and learn and it might help you in deciding what to do in the future.
Kind of reminds me of punk.kaos with the fascinate. Did he actually help out behind the scenes or what? Never saw anything pit out by him except a half working froyo and a leaked version.
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mikeew83 said:
Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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It is how he was on the rezound. He released ROMs extremely slowly, they had terrible bugs, and then he'd just say he was working on it.
I hate saying it, but I have been watching and waiting, and hell say he almost has it done, then issues come up, and you wait again.
I liked his pokemon rom on the rezound, but for me audio never worked right, and he knew it was an issue, and it was near three months before it was maybe fixed even tho he said he found the issue and fixed it two days after release, he just never actually released the fix. I had the S3 by the time he released another ROM.
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Quit bashing Joelz. He is working on Paradigm. The bamf team won't let him release any builds publicly until the rom is running extremely well. He spends a huge percentage of his free time making these roms. If you think you can release the rom faster, go ahead and try yourself. FFS CM10 and AOKP JB still have a decent amount of bugs and there are teams of people working on them.
You can ask werdna and con i have been working on it you can also ask Doug Piston and Shane and reid and really the whole BAMF Team.....I honestly am all cool about releasing Beta's if its my rom however its the team rom and also why release 100 betas if they suck as i get older i realize that it's better to release one stable rom then 100 unstable ones its a lesson i've learned over the past 2 years in android. Anyways that's all i have to say, it'll be released when I believe it is ready to be released. And the reason it takes me long is because i can't spend my whole day on my computer I have extreme amounts of homework, i know some will say why not just work on it after homework, well by the time im done with my homework its around 2am.......if i worked on it everyday i would get no sleep and my grades would go to crap...That's all I really have to say. I do appreciate you guys donating the device to me really, and I will release the rom but when it's ready, thanks to all those who understand..By the way im in high school....soooooooooooo if i let my grades go to crap then I wouldn't get into a good college etc etc etc...i already let my grades go to crap in 9th and 10th grade etc etc because of android........so im doing things right this time....Anyways 4.1.2 delayed release since we are trying to merge it into our d2-common branch...also theres a battery issue an issue in mobile data settings and again Teams of people working on cm10 and aokp...while im really the only one working on this device for Paradigm..
I hate bounty threads! Agreed. They're popping up like a virus.
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