this may be old news, but according to a pocketnow article posted this morning, the recent Tbolt rom update has been leaked
Today, what looks to be the official ROM update for the Verizon Thunderbolt has been leaked. The name of the file is: PG05IMG_Mecha_VERIZON_WWE_1.13.605.7_Radio_1.16.00.0402w_1_NV_8k_1.41_9k_1.64_release _182746_signed. This should say something to aficionados but we'll help: the version numbers match those from the Verizon document. Opposed to the Radio previously leaked, version 1.16.00.0402w, the new ROM version numbers are 1.16.00.0402w_1 (and 182727 vs 182746).
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Well, hopefully it's indeed a different update. Maybe they actually read this forum and realized the update they were going to put out was a piece of **** and didn't fix anything. We'll see though...
Bad reporting.
Bad.
Both packages are the same, deep down. In fact, the latest leak is a little older, but the actual internal images are the same for system/kernel/recovery/hboot/radios.
adrynalyne said:
Bad reporting.
Bad.
Both packages are the same, deep down. In fact, the latest leak is a little older, but the actual internal images are the same for system/kernel/recovery/hboot/radios.
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Okay, first things first: It looks like we will be able to get OTA's on custom ROM's via an OTA center for ROM builders. Apparently all they have to do is add a few lines to the build.prop section and those of us on custom ROM's (shout out to DW for TWEAK) can get updates like everyone else.
Okay, secondly: I just installed the FP5 OTA for my charge and I have NO IDEA what the hell they mean by "update UI"? It looks EXACTLY the same doodoo brown and orange as previously without any cool ICS look to it. This BETTER take care of the call quality issue or I may just switch phones. If this doesn't fix it there is no hope. Check out the FP5 thread and get your update early if your phone hasn't alerted you yet.
Third: I hear that DW is going to start working on TWEAK 2.3 (appartently a Beta is floating around) towards the end of August (middle of next week according to his post.) THANK YOU dude for keeping us all happy with an awesome ROM on PBJ.
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Okay, first things first: It looks like we will be able to get OTA's on custom ROM's via an OTA center for ROM builders. Apparently all they have to do is add a few lines to the build.prop section and those of us on custom ROM's (shout out to DW for TWEAK) can get updates like everyone else.
Okay, secondly: I just installed the FP5 OTA for my charge and I have NO IDEA what the hell they mean by "update UI"? It looks EXACTLY the same doodoo brown and orange as previously without any cool ICS look to it. This BETTER take care of the call quality issue or I may just switch phones. If this doesn't fix it there is no hope. Check out the FP5 thread and get your update early if your phone hasn't alerted you yet.
Third: I hear that DW is going to start working on TWEAK 2.3 (appartently a Beta is floating around) towards the end of August (middle of next week according to his post.) THANK YOU dude for keeping us all happy with an awesome ROM on PBJ.
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thanks for the info... do you have a source for the first part? not that I doubt you, just like to read more about it.
thanks...
https://www.otaupdatecenter.pro/?page=home
Also, if ROM Manager actually worked we could get OTAs through there.
As it is now, we can get OTAs through Tweaktools.
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Looking into it
jco23 said:
thanks for the info... do you have a source for the first part? not that I doubt you, just like to read more about it.
thanks...
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Let me try to find the source. I came across an article with a link to a page somewhere within XDA. I was surprised to see that they would allow custom developers to allow their downloaded ROM's to be updated over-the-air. It isn't that big a deal since we have ways to get the updates anyway, but I thought it was neat........ if it is true and available.
I'll get back to you on this....................
Droid Life article
Donklein09 said:
Let me try to find the source. I came across an article with a link to a page somewhere within XDA. I was surprised to see that they would allow custom developers to allow their downloaded ROM's to be updated over-the-air. It isn't that big a deal since we have ways to get the updates anyway, but I thought it was neat........ if it is true and available.
I'll get back to you on this....................
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Here is the Droid Life article about it:
droid-life.com/2012/08/09/ota-update-center-allows-custom-rom-developers-to-push-ota-updates-to-users
Near the bottom of the page you will notice a spot about XDA (Source: XDA), which links to the XDA article. That article gives a bit more detail about it.
I posted the link to the actual OTA Update Center website above. Nothing beats going to the source. The biggest advantage I can see to this is that it should also serve to suppress carrier OTA messages since it essentially replaces that functionality. Tweaked already has an OTA of sorts in TweakTools. One of the Rezound ROM's has been doing it's own OTA's for a while now. I think they're using their own host rather than this one, but the idea is the same. I was running it when the official OTA came out and I never got the notification. Some people on other ROM's did.
Not very sure about the authenticity of the pic provided in this link, maybe someone could dig deep down and flush out the real news (maybe based on the kernel or baseband version) but here is the link:
MOTO G4+ SPOTTED RUNNING 8.0
It seems fake to me. Also, there is no mentioned source of that screenshot. Also, Moto probably wouldn't have released the February security patch if all the work is focused on Oreo, which shows the January patch in that screenshot.
A L S O, the screenshot doesn't include the build number. That would have helped to confirm that the screenshot is 100% fake. And I would consider it kinda stupid from Moto to release 8.0.0 when 8.1.0 has already been out for months.
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It seems fake to me. Also, there is no mentioned source of that screenshot. Also, Moto probably wouldn't have released the February security patch if all the work is focused on Oreo, which shows the January patch in that screenshot.
A L S O, the screenshot doesn't include the build number. That would have helped to confirm that the screenshot is 100% fake. And I would consider it kinda stupid from Moto to release 8.0.0 when 8.1.0 has already been out for months.
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That I agree with, that's why my post didn't say it's real, it happened before with the g5 Oreo, someone faked it using x4 Oreo's build number
In addition to the other comments made about this:
1)Zooming into the picture, seems the 'Moto G4 Plus' text is slightly darker than the other descriptors and the font for the baseband (beginning with MSM8952) appears to be a different font to the other descriptors.
For example, look at the capital C in the baseband (CUST) and the C in the kernel timestamp (CST) and they seem to be 2 different styles. Contrast that with an Oreo soak test screenshot from the Moto Z Play: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75395738&postcount=15 The capital Cs are more consistent in their styles.
Additionally, look at the M in 'Modelo' and the M in 'Moto G4 Plus' and the 'MSM8952'. The M in 'Modelo' has its 'tails' pointing straight down, whereas the M in 'Moto G4 Plus' is angled. Contrast that again with the Moto Z Play screenshots where the M is pointing straight down in the About Phone photos.
2)As mentioned above, seems odd they would have the Jan 2018 patch, and the Jan 2018 baseband, when the February 2018 patch has come out. Jan 2018 baseband ends in 62.01R, with the Feb 2018 baseband ending in 62.02R. In theory, this could be an early build of the Oreo beta, but Motorola in the past has appeared to focus development on soak tests and included the latest patches with them, rather than splitting development (I think with the G4 Play, Motorola continued to release security patches as they had major issues with the soak test).
3)The kernel version and build timestamps match that from the Moto Z Play Oreo soak test build. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75395738&postcount=15 As others have noted in this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/android-oreo-t3763868 our device is likely to be running kernel version 3.10 (now on extended support), which makes a kernel change to 3.18 unlikely. Especially as Google only mandated newer kernels for devices released with Oreo/built in 2017 - devices updated to Oreo, if I recall, could maintain their original kernels.
Yeah, at first glance may be convincing but now seems just to bring false hope and/or is clickbait for tech sites. Regardless, I await evidence or signs of a soak test for our devices.
EDIT: that's at least 2 articles from Techdroider I've seen where they've not verified their sources...
EDIT 2: I see that this has gotten some traction on the Techdroider website, and yes, my post has a lot of focus on the screenshot. However, that's the only screenshot of an 'Oreo build' for G4 Plus devices I've seen, and without word of a soak test, so the timing of this seems a little suspect. Couple that with previous fakes mentioned on the Moto G subreddit and thus it warranted closer inspection, if only to stop giving false hopes to users and try to keep the record straight. Else, users will keep asking on this forum and the other G5/G5S forums when Oreo is arriving. The simple answer is we don't know (yet).
As for those that are commenting about the kernel version requiring to be 3.18 or higher, Google's documentation says that if your device is being upgraded, you can stay on the base kernel if you so wish:
Kernel version
Kernel version requirements:
All SoCs productized in 2017 must launch with kernel 4.4 or newer.
All other SoCs launching new Android devices running Android 8.0 must use kernel 3.18 or newer.
Regardless of launch date, all SoCs with device launches on Android 8.0 remain subject to kernel changes required to enable Treble.
Older Android devices released prior to Android 8.0 but that will be upgraded to Android 8.0 can continue to use their original base kernel version if desired.
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Reference: https://source.android.com/devices/architecture/kernel/modular-kernels
LOL, you're just thinking too much. When you try to prove something "Fake" and you observe each and every detail of a Screenshot.
This was also Fake right? http://bit.ly/2FWnp2z
The thing is the screenshot is too good to be true, that's the only reason you cannot accept it. Also what makes you think G4 Plus is going to stay with base version? They can update it to 3.18 if the want.
Your logic in faking a Screenshot is not sound.
Moderator edit: Please avoid quoting the entire PREVIOUS post, and your choice of words for another member has been amended.
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LOL, you're just thinking too much. When you try to prove something "Fake" and you observe each and every detail of a Screenshot.
This was also Fake right? http://bit.ly/2FWnp2z
The thing is the screenshot is too good to be true, that's the only reason you cannot accept it. Also what makes you think G4 Plus is going to stay with base version? They can update it to 3.18 if the want.
Your logic in faking a Screenshot is not sound.
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Did you get the Oreo update then? Otherwise his analysis is dope. Echo is one of the masters when it comes to fixing. Hus saying this means it's the truth.
Ayan Uchiha Choudhury said:
Did you get the Oreo update then? Otherwise his analysis is dope. Echo is one of the masters when it comes to fixing. Hus saying this means it's the truth.
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Saying something fake on the basis of color and font of words and letters makes you think his analysis is dope. Well, great then
He might be great in fixing and development, but i think his points are no facts but too much thinking to prove the ss fake.
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Saying something fake on the basis of color and font of words and letters makes you think his analysis is dope. Well, great then
He might be great in fixing and development, but i think his points are no facts but too much thinking to prove the ss fake.
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I get the impression you see the screenshot as real, so I'd like to ask you for your view on why you see this as genuine, or at least not faked. I would be interested in evidence too, e.g. do you have the build on your device? Or at least what you see as 'stupid in faking a screenshot'?
As for the screenshot you linked, that Chinese Moto Z Play screenshot looks genuine to me.
Here I have done a closer look at the screenshot and a comparison between that screenshot and a screenshot from my build of Lineage 15.1 and found two more details:
1. If you pay close attention/have a well trained eye, you will notice that the spacing is wrong for the Baseband Version when compared to the other elements (Android version, Kernel version etc.). When compared, the spacing between the "Baseband version" and the actual baseband version looks rather like the one on my LOS 15.1 build than the one on the stock Moto ROM, with the two being closer together on LOS 15.1. Though you need to look really close to notice it.
2. When you look at it, there is a part of the baseband version that only the stock ROM (7.0) and the bootloader show. On that screenshot, that detail is next to the baseband version rather than underneath the part that would be found on custom ROMs. Look at the dotted lines.
I also think this is fake cuz of the simplest reason that a company would be actually cheating to the customers who bought the g5 family if we had a soak test before them since we are an older model. Even if the company had a soak test ready they would hold till ALL the g5 phones had a soak test out and then would release for g4 plus. I doubt Lenovo would want an uproar from the community.
harsinghal said:
LOL, you're just thinking too much. When you try to prove something "Fake" and you observe each and every detail of a Screenshot.
This was also Fake right? http://bit.ly/2FWnp2z
The thing is the screenshot is too good to be true, that's the only reason you cannot accept it. Also what makes you think G4 Plus is going to stay with base version? They can update it to 3.18 if the want.
Your logic in faking a Screenshot is pure stupid.
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Have you ever seen a company which updated their kernel, except Google? No.
Motorola didn't even upstream the kernel. It's still .84 while there's .108
He proved that this screenshot is fake in a detailed way and you just disrespected him.
That screenshot is fake, believe or not.
LineageOS 15.1
corlatemanuel said:
Here I have done a closer look at the screenshot and a comparison between that screenshot and a screenshot from my build of Lineage 15.1 and found two more details:
1. If you pay close attention/have a well trained eye, you will notice that the spacing is wrong for the Baseband Version when compared to the other elements (Android version, Kernel version etc.). When compared, the spacing between the "Baseband version" and the actual baseband version looks rather like the one on my LOS 15.1 build than the one on the stock Moto ROM, with the two being closer together on LOS 15.1. Though you need to look really close to notice it.
2. When you look at it, there is a part of the baseband version that only the stock ROM (7.0) and the bootloader show. On that screenshot, that detail is next to the baseband version rather than underneath the part that would be found on custom ROMs. Look at the dotted lines.
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Hi, I saw in your post that you have a catch of LineageOS 15.1 with a latest version of March.
Can you tell me or pass the link where you downloaded it?
Thank you very much
al3al3al3jandr0 said:
Hi, I saw in your post that you have a catch of LineageOS 15.1 with a latest version of March.
Can you tell me or pass the link where you downloaded it?
Thank you very much
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About Lineage OS. Yes, it's a build of mine, I didn't make a thread about it because I'm an absolute noob when it comes to ROM building and this is my first ever ROM built. I can upload it somewhere, if you want me to.
corlatemanuel said:
About Lineage OS. Yes, it's a build of mine, I didn't make a thread about it because I'm an absolute noob when it comes to ROM building and this is my first ever ROM built. I can upload it somewhere, if you want me to.
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Of course it would be fine, congratulations for doing it.
What bugs do you have?
corlatemanuel said:
About Lineage OS. Yes, it's a build of mine, I didn't make a thread about it because I'm an absolute noob when it comes to ROM building and this is my first ever ROM built. I can upload it somewhere, if you want me to.
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Post edited - XDA is for public sharing, not code via PM...
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Post edited - XDA is for public sharing, not code via PM...
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It has been shared meanwhile:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/development/lineageos-15-1-nightlies-thanks-to-nikit-t3765065
(actually, that's a different one )
jer194 said:
It has been shared meanwhile:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...ageos-15-1-nightlies-thanks-to-nikit-t3765065
(actually, that's a different one )
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Actually, It's pretty much the same thing, only that mine has very minor changes. Maybe I'll make a thread of my own if I manage to sort everything out for my builds. I didn't make a thread yet as I didn't feel like it was ready for use yet
I just a saw youtube video,in that video he told that moto is testing oreo on the g4 plus
jaxx08 said:
I just a saw youtube video,in that video he told that moto is testing oreo on the g4 plus
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i know seen that too. sad it is. probably his own ignorance to deceitful nature
here's latest news
https://www.xda-developers.com/motorola-testers-moto-g4-plus-android-oreo/
I think LineageOS official is near.... I've found interesting information about polaris
https://review.lineageos.org/#/q/topic:polaris-bringup+(status:open+OR+status:merged)
can't wait
Still early stages, not even buildable yet
Going to bring an old thread back to life. Especially with Lineage 16.0 on its way out, do we have anyone attempting to build for this phone?
I'm not sure I've ever owned a phone with this little developer support.
15.1 device tree wont be finished , we have jumped straight to 16.0.
YazumiWuHung said:
15.1 device tree wont be finished , we have jumped straight to 16.0.
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Oh! Thanks, didn't realize we had dev's looking into it. Thanks for your work.
gogogo....would not have thought that the difference to "mi mix 2" is so big
tom65824 said:
gogogo....would not have thought that the difference to "mi mix 2" is so big
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Official support for Lineage hasn't been updated since July. I wouldn't hold your breath.
Yeah last update was August on 16.0
https://review.lineageos.org/#/q/project:LineageOS/android_device_xiaomi_polaris
andyphone said:
Yeah last update was August on 16.0
https://review.lineageos.org/#/q/project:LineageOS/android_device_xiaomi_polaris
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As far as I can tell the 2 polaris repos were deleted off of their GitHub today
aeppacher said:
As far as I can tell the 2 polaris repos were deleted off of their GitHub today
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This one still exists....
https://github.com/LineageOS/android_device_xiaomi_polaris
and here ?
https://www.getdroidtips.com/lineage-os-15-1-xiaomi-mi-mix-2s/
official?
tom65824 said:
and here ?
https://www.getdroidtips.com/lineage-os-15-1-xiaomi-mi-mix-2s/
official?
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No, its not official. Its a treble system image. You can probably download a more updated version at the Treble-enabled device development forum.
This thread seems to be a collection of random guesses. Is there any actual source of information on the status of an official build for the Mix 2s? Surely if someone were working on it, they would post something somewhere... Not trying at all to be demanding or complain, but I would like to know if there is a reasonable chance of a release at some point.
I have until Oct. 15 to return this device. It's an outstanding phone with a PoS operating system. Without going into a big rant about miui 10, I don't want to own a phone where text messages are unreliable using anything but xiaomi's crappy (and likely invasive) messaging app.
Xar99 said:
This thread seems to be a collection of random guesses. Is there any actual source of information on the status of an official build for the Mix 2s? Surely if someone were working on it, they would post something somewhere... Not trying at all to be demanding or complain, but I would like to know if there is a reasonable chance of a release at some point.
I have until Oct. 15 to return this device. It's an outstanding phone with a PoS operating system. Without going into a big rant about miui 10, I don't want to own a phone where text messages are unreliable using anything but xiaomi's crappy (and likely invasive) messaging app.
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I broke my cardinal rule with this handset: never buy hardware based upon the promise of future software updates because they may not ever happen.
I think if it was being worked on we would have heard by now. Devs just seem disinterested in the device.
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This one still exists....
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The one andyphone linked above has quite a few commits since Oct. 1 (today, even). Good sign?
Los 16.0 should come eventually. Seems like a very capable developer is working on our device right now!
There may not be any official announcement yet, but you can easily see that work to bring up LineageOS for the Mix 2S is still underway here: https://github.com/LineageOS/android_device_xiaomi_polaris.
The last commit to this Mix 2S-specific repository was a day ago.