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Being as some people already bought the phone at Costcos and AT&T's release is tomorrow, I wanted to start a thread for people having speaker issues.
If anyone has read my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949878 You will notice I and a few others who recently got an Inspire early have noticed very tinny call quality in the earpiece and speaker phone, and very low speaker volume on the rear external speaker to the point where you can bearly hear it ring or hear the notification tones.
So of anyone else is experiencing either of these, please post in here.
I have a report filed with our local HTC rep and she passed it up the chain. So we'll see if it goes anywhere.
just sounds weird when using pandora
Mine has excellent in-call volume, thru ear speaker. External speaker a little weak.
Boo boo speaker
Speaker is garbage. Phone speaker is phone, but the rear one sucks.
My n1 doesn't have very good speakers. Its not faulty though, just not very good. Ive heard its a problem with htc. Regarding the inspire, are we talking about defective or just poor quality?
So far its been ok. Call Quality has been good and loud enough but the speaker volume is weak compared to my iphone 4.
Very low ringtones and notifications, even with volume turned all the way up...
Does anyone know how the volume compares to the Aria? Because it's damn quite, especially if you ever set the phone down face-up, covering the back speaker...
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See this thread for a possible fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773449
Ill be trying a few things myself, hopefully not run into a boot loop in the process. hahaha
Anyone able to compare the earpiece volume to the Captivate and Aria? I thought Aria was way too low and Captivate is about right... don't want to switch to a phone with lower call volume.
simulatordos said:
Anyone able to compare the earpiece volume to the Captivate and Aria? I thought Aria was way too low and Captivate is about right... don't want to switch to a phone with lower call volume.
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The captivate is definately louder. Not as loud as an iPhone, but louder than the Inspire.
Also the captivate doesn't have that tinny sound like the Inspire does in the earpiece.
Well we sold out of Inspire's today, as did a a few other stores that I know of.
So far we have been getting good reviews of the phone in general, but many people are complaining of the low external speaker volume. I can see this is going to be a big issue with a lot of people.
I've had a few people comment on the tinny trebly sounding earpiece and speakerphone, but it appears that different people have various tolerences when it comes to sound pitch.
For people wanted to compare it to the Captivate, I would have the say the Captivate definately has better sound quality and the external speaker is a tad louder, but still not on par with the iPhone. So it just seems the Inspire although better in "almost" every way from the Captivate, is definately a step lower as far as the speakers.
I'll keep everyone informed when I hear some more back from our HTC rep. I'm hoping this can just be corrected with the software update.
this phone is AMAZING, but i agree with you choco,
the speaker is pretty much useless...its tinny, and the volume is too low. That being said,
the in ear speaker is one of the best i have used. It seems like the loud speaker, battery, and front facing camera is how HTC managed to keep this one at $100
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We nearly sold out of them as well today...people are responding very well to this phone, much better than they did with the captivate.
I bought it. I must say, I think its a little louder in call than the captivate. I think the external speaker is ok, so my feeling is that theres a production line issue here.
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The speaker for notifications and ringtones is horrible. I can barely hear it when I get a call. Im thinking about returning it. Whats the point of a phone if you cant hear when someone is calling. (other than that it is a decent phone, I will test battery life tommorrow)
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I bought it. I must say, I think its a little louder in call than the captivate. I think the external speaker is ok, so my feeling is that theres a production line issue here.
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Either that or varying parts. My incall speaker sounds fine. The external speaker is....well just crap. Luckily, I don't use the phone's external speaker for much anyway.
Coming from a Captivate
I bought the phone yesterday, and well I haven't had extensive use of it yet both the external and the earpiece volume are fine to me...no problem with ringer volume.
I will agree that the sound is a bit tinny.
picked mine up yesterday and the rear speaker is a bit quite for notifications. the earpiece sounded a little tinny on the first call i made with it, but i'm thinking it might have been the fact that it was to a buddy of mine on a cm7 nightly and using speaker phone. i didn't notice the tinny sound on any of the subsequent phone calls, so either i got used to it and it doesn't bother me any more or it was his phone not mine
This thread should be rename to post here if u think the speaker level is too damn low. Its not a problem when all the phone are the same. Hopefully it is fixable with a software update.
Yeah speaker sucks I mean look at it... they didn't even try
Noise cancellation in my Nexus S i9023 is just horrible. During those noisy environment, like in the metro, it even cancel out my own voice, so my friends can even heard a word that I say. Maybe because I speak Chinese?
So would like to know where and how I can turn this off.
Thank you.
Hi all, how does the speaker sound & volume?
grneyez said:
Hi all, how does the speaker sound & volume?
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Yes, they do.
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What do you want to know? No ear is he same as another, so my perception of the speaker qulaity-wise would probably be useless to you (as my hearing is probably either better or worse than yours). Volume to me is OK, and if you'd red up on a few reviews, you'd have noticed they are generally favorable s to the definition and volume of the onboard speaker.
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Yes, they do.
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What do you want to know? No ear is he same as another, so my perception of the speaker qulaity-wise would probably be useless to you (as my hearing is probably either better or worse than yours). Volume to me is OK, and if you'd red up on a few reviews, you'd have noticed they are generally favorable s to the definition and volume of the onboard speaker.
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It's just that the placement is god-awful and there's only one lol. I can live with that though...
MartyHulskemper said:
Yes, they do.
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What do you want to know? No ear is he same as another, so my perception of the speaker qulaity-wise would probably be useless to you (as my hearing is probably either better or worse than yours). Volume to me is OK, and if you'd red up on a few reviews, you'd have noticed they are generally favorable s to the definition and volume of the onboard speaker.
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Being that it is a single speaker and rear facing, I wanted to know if it was loud enough to hear Skype conversations with it. I had TF Prime when they first came out and an assuming that the speaker is the same?
grneyez said:
Being that it is a single speaker and rear facing, I wanted to know if it was loud enough to hear Skype conversations with it. I had TF Prime when they first came out and an assuming that the speaker is the same?
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I think it's pretty much the same. Maybe better, I don't know I haven't played with either yet lol.
KilerG said:
I think it's pretty much the same. Maybe better, I don't know I haven't played with either yet lol.
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Thanks for your reply.
So I noticed this morning that my tones only play from the bottom speaker.
I was searching for a ringtone and found one that played nice and loud when I previewed it (from both speakers)... copied it to the ringtone folder, selected it in the sound preferences and when it played it was WAY quieter because it was only playing out of the bottom speaker!!
What gives?
i remember my old sony z3 and z5 did the same, both with front stereo speakers and inly the bottom one played ringtones
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so annoying.
byproxy said:
So I noticed this morning that my tones only play from the bottom speaker.
I was searching for a ringtone and found one that played nice and loud when I previewed it (from both speakers)... copied it to the ringtone folder, selected it in the sound preferences and when it played it was WAY quieter because it was only playing out of the bottom speaker!!
What gives?
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This is totally normal. All dual speaker phones do this for both ringtones and speakerphone calls. Once we gain root access, someone needs to find the right line of code in the mixer paths XML file to activate the second speaker.
PuffDaddy_d said:
This is totally normal. All dual speaker phones do this for both ringtones and speakerphone calls. Once we gain root access, someone needs to find the right line of code in the mixer paths XML file to activate the second speaker.
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My HTC One M7 played ringtones, notifications, and speakerphone calls from both speakers and my ZTE Axon 7 plays from both speakers as well. So no, it is not a thing all dual speaker phones do.
J-Pod said:
My HTC One M7 played ringtones, notifications, and speakerphone calls from both speakers and my ZTE Axon 7 plays from both speakers as well. So no, it is not a thing all dual speaker phones do.
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My HTC 10 doesnt. Ringtones only from the one speaker
I'm pretty sure it's to idiot proof the phone to prevent people from putting the phone to their ears before actually answering the phone thereby potentially causing damage and a lawsuit due to the significantly louder signal the speakers play when ringing. My iPhone X and Galaxy Note both kinda do the same thing except on the Note 9 some sound does come out of the top speaker unless the proximity sensor detects any nearby objects (like a face) which is the clever way to do it really.
J-Pod said:
My HTC One M7 played ringtones, notifications, and speakerphone calls from both speakers and my ZTE Axon 7 plays from both speakers as well. So no, it is not a thing all dual speaker phones do.
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So out of hundreds of phones, the two non standard and ancient phones you can find to back up your opinion is all you've got?
All RELEVANT phones do this. They aren't relevant.
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I'm pretty sure it's to idiot proof the phone to prevent people from putting the phone to their ears before actually answering the phone thereby potentially causing damage and a lawsuit due to the significantly louder signal the speakers play when ringing. My iPhone X and Galaxy Note both kinda do the same thing except on the Note 9 some sound does come out of the top speaker unless the proximity sensor detects any nearby objects (like a face) which is the clever way to do it really.
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This is the only thing I've found online as well that makes any decent sense. The whole proximity sensor thing sounds great, I wonder why more companies don't do that for all the non-media sounds.
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I'm pretty sure it's to idiot proof the phone to prevent people from putting the phone to their ears before actually answering the phone thereby potentially causing damage and a lawsuit due to the significantly louder signal the speakers play when ringing. My iPhone X and Galaxy Note both kinda do the same thing except on the Note 9 some sound does come out of the top speaker unless the proximity sensor detects any nearby objects (like a face) which is the clever way to do it really.
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iPhone does use both speakers for ringtones/notifications/alarm. I have iPhone XS, I also had an iPhone X, great sound from both speakers. I don't understand why Google limits the phone like this, not only it only uses the bottom speaker but the sound quality is decreased a lot when comparing the sound coming when it's ringing to playing exactly the same sound with a media player on the phone.
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iPhone does use both speakers for ringtones/notifications/alarm. I have iPhone XS, I also had an iPhone X, great sound from both speakers. I don't understand why Google limits the phone like this, not only it only uses the bottom speaker but the sound quality is decreased a lot when comparing the sound coming when it's ringing to playing exactly the same sound with a media player on the phone.
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If that's the case then they probably updated it. I sold my iPhone X for a Note 9 and much prefer the sound of the Note 9. The XS is a bit louder but the Note 9 has a much more balanced sound with a pleasant tuning, which is reflected in sound measurements on Notebookcheck from both phones. It also confirms the lower peak volume of the Note 9.
Regarding the Pixel 3 well, I haven't had enough hands on with it to comment but from what I heard the speakers were very powerful albeit with slightly less definition which I guess is the point at the end of the day when you want your phone to be heard... Then again from what you guys are saying it doesn't ring very loud...
Since you have an XS can you confirm whether covering the sensors on the front turns off the top speaker when the phone is ringing?
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If that's the case then they probably updated it. I sold my iPhone X for a Note 9 and much prefer the sound of the Note 9. The XS is a bit louder but the Note 9 has a much more balanced sound with a pleasant tuning, which is reflected in sound measurements on Notebookcheck from both phones. It also confirms the lower peak volume of the Note 9.
Regarding the Pixel 3 well, I haven't had enough hands on with it to comment but from what I heard the speakers were very powerful albeit with slightly less definition which I guess is the point at the end of the day when you want your phone to be heard... Then again from what you guys are saying it doesn't ring very loud...
Since you have an XS can you confirm whether covering the sensors on the front turns off the top speaker when the phone is ringing?
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I have had every iPhone since they implemented dual speakers and the sound for incoming call/notification have always come from both speakers, nothing new at all. That is something that's bothering me a bit when switching to android, you have two speakers why not use em both for ringtones, alarms and so on.
It just seems to lower the volume for both speakers when covering the sensors.
Fille84 said:
I have had every iPhone since they implemented dual speakers and the sound for incoming call/notification have always come from both speakers, nothing new at all. That is something that's bothering me a bit when switching to android, you have two speakers why not use em both for ringtones, alarms and so on.
It just seems to lower the volume for both speakers when covering the sensors.
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In my opinion I think it is very dangerous to the ears for the top speaker to not turn off with the proximity sensor, as I have been in a situation where I was showing my friend a song I was working on, the phone volume was down low and he was holding the top of the phone near his ear and I got an incoming call. That would have hurt his ear if it was the iPhone. I think it is very clever that Samsung use the proximity sensor to protect our ears from these mistakes. Especially if you're on a call on Facebook then you receive a cellular call through the phone in which case it cancels the Facebook call and rings through the loudspeakers. Again that would be damaging to the ear. Then again I don't Apple has ever really followed hearing protection regulations as they have no volume limit or warning by default on the iPhones with earphones as opposed to Android where you get a message turning it up to high volumes. Again, my Note 9 is plenty loud when it rings in normal situations. I'm not sure about the Pixel 3.
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In my opinion I think it is very dangerous to the ears for the top speaker to not turn off with the proximity sensor, as I have been in a situation where I was showing my friend a song I was working on, the phone volume was down low and he was holding the top of the phone near his ear and I got an incoming call. That would have hurt his ear if it was the iPhone. I think it is very clever that Samsung use the proximity sensor to protect our ears from these mistakes. Especially if you're on a call on Facebook then you receive a cellular call through the phone in which case it cancels the Facebook call and rings through the loudspeakers. Again that would be damaging to the ear. Then again I don't Apple has ever really followed hearing protection regulations as they have no volume limit or warning by default on the iPhones with earphones as opposed to Android where you get a message turning it up to high volumes. Again, my Note 9 is plenty loud when it rings in normal situations. I'm not sure about the Pixel 3.
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Like I said, it's very low when you're either looking at the screen or covering the sensors. So it's a non issue, can't damage your ear. And to be honest it's not a very common scenario to hold your ear against the earpiece if you're not talking on the phone.
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Like I said, it's very low when you're either looking at the screen or covering the sensors. So it's a non issue, can't damage your ear. And to be honest it's not a very common scenario to hold your ear against the earpiece if you're not talking on the phone.
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As I mentioned,
I can't speak for the Pixel 3 but the Note 9 rings plenty loud with alarms and calls etc unless the proximity sensor is triggered. It only dims the top speaker tho. I would agree with you about the the ear against the speaker if it wasn't for the all too common scenario of being on a Facebook messenger call with the earpiece then a cellular call comes through, interrupting the messenger call and ringing through the speakers... I do agree with you that the Pixel shouldn't just permantly turn off the top speaker for calls and alarms, that just seems silly. They should utilize the full potential of the speaker system...
2022 Did someone already found a way for dual stereo speaker ringtone for our pixel 3? Google really always loves to mess up.
Hi,
how is the loudspeaker quality for people who already own the phone?
For me the speakers are not that great. Especially the top one in the earpiece. Calls aren't that great and listening to voice messages or even videos and music is just ok.
I get scratching in the top one pretty early. It depends on the audio quality/source but sometimes it already scratches around 60% of max volume. Especially in calls and voice messages.
It sound very good. Less bass then my s21U, but still ok. Calls are very ok too.
So no scratching for you?
I have got an S20 here and it definitely has a better sound quality with less distortion/scratching...
I was quite impressed. Especially in flex mode when both speakers face forward. Definitely one of the highlights of this phone if you ask me.
So no scratching when listening to voice mails on higher volumes? Just tried video and there the quality is fine. It is voices where my speaker struggles.
The sound Quality if better (subjectively) than my S21+, which I traded in. Less tinny and no distortion so far on loudspeaker call in flex mode.
So in my experience the speakers especially the one on the top is worst than the ones of the S20 which is sad.
One thing I noticed in addition to the bad sound quality is that the speaker grill of the earpiece doesn't cover the 3 holes completely. I am able to look through the holes. The grill only covers a part of the holes. Haven't seen this before. Can anybody confirm this or do I indeed have a faulty product?
I will try to describe this as best I can and you can decide if this is the same thing or if yours appears to be missing parts.
I have the three holes. Inside them, there is what looks like plastic coming from the top that covers about half of the opening. If I angle the phone to see into the gap, there is another cover under it.
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I will try to describe this as best I can and you can decide if this is the same thing or if yours appears to be missing parts.
I have the three holes. Inside them, there is what looks like plastic coming from the top that covers about half of the opening. If I angle the phone to see into the gap, there is another cover under it.
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Ok, I guess than it's supposed to be like that. Looks a bit weird to me.
How is the sound quality on your end? The quality itself is ok for me, what annoys me is the distortion I get pretty early around 60-70% of max volume depending on the audio. Especially calls, video calls and voice messages get distorted really quickly. Video and music mostly seem to be fine.
Cris7ianO said:
Ok, I guess than it's supposed to be like that. Looks a bit weird to me.
How is the sound quality on your end? The quality itself is ok for me, what annoys me is the distortion I get pretty early around 60-70% of max volume depending on the audio. Especially calls, video calls and voice messages get distorted really quickly. Video and music mostly seem to be fine.
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Haven't made any real calls yet, but everything else seemed normal. I should probably test that before the return period runs out. I'll let you know.
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Haven't made any real calls yet, but everything else seemed normal. I should probably test that before the return period runs out. I'll let you know.
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Feedback is appreciated . Voice messages in Whatsapp for example, same for Whatsapp and Duo video calls and phone calls as well... Distortion and scratching in the upper range coming out of the earpiece/upper speaker.
I have to decide if I keep the device until Saturday. It would be great if a few more people who own the phone could give some feedback regarding the loudspeaker of the phone during voice and video calls and voice messages
Sounds defective. Just finished testing and it was not only clear, but loud. I know with previous phones, I couldn't hear a thing at any less than one step below the max volume. I had this one at half and it was just as loud. If you happened to start at max, it's possible a speaker blew out. The thing they never tell you is that they aren't truly meant to run at that volume for anything more than a minute or two.
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Sounds defective. Just finished testing and it was not only clear, but loud. I know with previous phones, I couldn't hear a thing at any less than one step below the max volume. I had this one at half and it was just as loud. If you happened to start at max, it's possible a speaker blew out. The thing they never tell you is that they aren't truly meant to run at that volume for anything more than a minute or two.
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Thanks for the feedback. What confuses me is that I get the distortion only in calls or voice messages. No problems when listening to music or videos.
Cris7ianO said:
Thanks for the feedback. What confuses me is that I get the distortion only in calls or voice messages. No problems when listening to music or videos.
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I have heard rumors the speakers are separate between the two, but I'm not sure.
I know Samsung tends to send phones to be repaired over replaced, even when it just released last week. Hopefully they don't give you any trouble if you decide to flat out return it, though.
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I have heard rumors the speakers are separate between the two, but I'm not sure.
I know Samsung tends to send phones to be repaired over replaced, even when it just released last week. Hopefully they don't give you any trouble if you decide to flat out return it, though.
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Yeah the service is ridiculous. I love Android and use it for years for various reasons. But these encounters with bad service drag my mind towards apple. I already contacted Samsung. They offered an exchange. But I have to send in my flip first. As this is currently my only phone due to sending my S20 in for the trade-in I will not be able to do that. I am using the phone with dual sim for private and business purposes. I will try to force Samsung to send me a new one prior to sending mine back. If they don't accept I will withdraw my order and get something else. The trade-in might get me into trouble as it seems. Will never purchase over Samsung directly again. Never had issues with Amazon or apple...