Essential PH-1 on AT&T postpaid - Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion

If you are not on AT&T postpaid plans, then please refrain from posting. I had enough research that Sprint and T-Mobile are working fine with the phone with all the advanced connectivity options.
AT&T currently has a crappy insincere BYOD policy even though they said they welcome your device. Here's the link from AT&T website about the Essential PH-1.
https://www.att.com/plans/essential-phone.html
In reality, the Essential PH-1 on AT&T will be restricted to HSPA/UMTS for voice and LTE for data. Advanced connectivity options such as HD Voice, VoLTE and WiFi calling do not work on Essential PH-1. Looking around, the same frustrations do apply for others with unbranded phones from Google and OnePlus.

How does this differ from prepaid? I'm getting LTE+ and WiFi calling. Not getting Volte though. Would it say Volte up top of it's active during a call? I get HSPA during calls.
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Airwolf79 said:
How does this differ from prepaid? I'm getting LTE+ and WiFi calling. Not getting Volte though. Would it say Volte up top of it's active during a call? I get HSPA during calls.
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I don't think AT&T prepaid has any of the advanced connectivity options. How do you know WiFi calling is working for you? Having the option showed up in Settings->Wireless & Network does not imply it is working. Mine has the option, too, but placing or receiving calls still drop down to HSPA/UMTS. You can check what kind of network you used on placing/receiving calls by going into *#*#4636#*#* menu.

Mine stays on LTE during calls. You have to call them and give them your IMEI and let them provision it and then reboot your phone. Did it today, works great. Never tried prepaid, standard unlimited data family plan here.

SquireSCA said:
Mine stays on LTE during calls. You have to call them and give them your IMEI and let them provision it and then reboot your phone. Did it today, works great. Never tried prepaid, standard unlimited data family plan here.
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I did.
When I got my Essential PH-1 from BestBuy, I even called up AT&T rep to get a new SIM card for the phone. I provided the phone make/model and IMEI to them, since my old SIM card from OnePlus X back in 2015 was not getting these advanced connectivity options. Essential tech support recommended that I obtained a new SIM card from AT&T. I am surprised that you were able to get this done over the phone with AT&T tech support without having a case opened and wait for another 9~11 business days.
My case is currently opened and expected to be resolved by 11/30/2017. I had threatened to move to T-Mobile if they did not escalate the resolution. Researching further, I have less hope that Essential PH-1 will be fully supported by AT&T BYOD in all the advanced connectivity options. And, I am not alone with such frustrations.
https://forums.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-2-pixel-2-xl/843382-psa-t-pixel-2-owners.html
https://forums.att.com/t5/Device-Features/Pixel-Pixel-2-VoLTE-Wifi-Calling-HD-Voice/td-p/5285018
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/wifi-volte-calling-on-at-t.579611/
I am really after VoLTE, WiFi calling and HD Voice are nice to have. Essential PH-1 LTE HSPA/UMTS indoor reception seems to be poor compared to OnePlusX from where I live.

It all works fine here. Just had to provide the IMEI for them over the phone and reboot my PH-1 after. Getting all of these features on mine, no problem.

If you register the PH-1 IMEI to the SIM you will not get VoLTE on AT&T as it is not an AT&T carrier branded phone. AT&T reserves those features for their phones.
To get around that, register an IMEI from an AT&T carrier branded phone to the SIM. Then you will get VoLTE. Unfortunately WiFi calling does not work even though the option is available on the PH-1.
My SIM is registered with my old AT&T S8 IMEI. I'm still on LTE during a call and also get HD icon on the call screen for HD Voice call also.
Quick and easy test would be to take a friend's AT&T SIM and plug it in to verify VoLTE.
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I never thought of that. Yeah, maybe the difference is that a lot of us had a SIM from a previous AT&T branded phone that we just tossed in here, so when we gave them our IMEI it all just worked.
If I had to ask them for a new SIM and told them it was for this phone, maybe it wouldn't?

SquireSCA said:
I never thought of that. Yeah, maybe the difference is that a lot of us had a SIM from a previous AT&T branded phone that we just tossed in here, so when we gave them our IMEI it all just worked.
If I had to ask them for a new SIM and told them it was for this phone, maybe it wouldn't?
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Strange though. In my case I've never had an AT&T branded phone with this SIM and it all still works since getting them my IMEI. Every phone I've used has been bought outright from the given manufacturer.
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AT&T just closed my case with a disappointing response.
------ AT&T response ------
Regrettably, we do not support HD Voice/Wi-Fi Calling on non-AT&T Branded devices. As the device in use on the line is an unlocked non-AT&T branded device, we are unable to support those services on the device. We apologize for any inconvenience.
Thank you for choosing AT&T. We truly value and appreciate your business. If you have any further inquiries, please contact Customer Care at 1-800-331-0500 for assistance.
Justin H.
Billing Application Specialist
AT&T Customer Service
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So for those of you who claimed VoLTE/Wi-Fi calling/HD Voice work on Essential PH-1, I would seriously doubt the validity of such claims. AT&T system is smart enough now to detect IMEI mismatch if you reuse existing SIM on AT&T branded phone. AT&T periodical system audits may disable such advanced connectivity options once it is flagged by the system.

kjliew said:
AT&T just closed my case with a disappointing response.
------ AT&T response ------
Regrettably, we do not support HD Voice/Wi-Fi Calling on non-AT&T Branded devices. As the device in use on the line is an unlocked non-AT&T branded device, we are unable to support those services on the device. We apologize for any inconvenience.
Thank you for choosing AT&T. We truly value and appreciate your business. If you have any further inquiries, please contact Customer Care at 1-800-331-0500 for assistance.
Justin H.
Billing Application Specialist
AT&T Customer Service
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So for those of you who claimed VoLTE/Wi-Fi calling/HD Voice work on Essential PH-1, I would seriously doubt the validity of such claims. AT&T system is smart enough now to detect IMEI mismatch if you reuse existing SIM on AT&T branded phone. AT&T periodical system audits may disable such advanced connectivity options once it is flagged by the system.
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Yes that's right, we're all lying. Dumbass.
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I know for a fact that I have HD voice. The dialer shows HD on some calls and doesn't on the others. When it doesn't, there is a sound quality difference.
The SIM that I'm using came from an AT&T branded HTC M8 which i l used on an M9 and then the 10... Now it's in the PH-1
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VOLTE on AT&T

Though this phone is capable of VOLTE it has not, as of yet, functioned on my carrier AT&T. My line is supposedly provisioned properly in their system for VOLTE however the agent I spoke with informed me that an IMEI must be whitelisted on their servers before it will actually work. Basically this means that normally only the phones you buy from them are VOLTE capable because of their whitelisting system. Now this agent supposedly filed a case to get my IMEI added to this list which should supposedly allow for the VOLTE to then function on the AT&T network. And so if this actually ends up working I will report back so others can do the same if they wish to use VOLTE on AT&T.
Cool.... I tried the same but did not get offered to try and get my imei white listed.
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timde9 said:
Though this phone is capable of VOLTE it has not, as of yet, functioned on my carrier AT&T. My line is supposedly provisioned properly in their system for VOLTE however the agent I spoke with informed me that an IMEI must be whitelisted on their servers before it will actually work. Basically this means that normally only the phones you buy from them are VOLTE capable because of their whitelisting system. Now this agent supposedly filed a case to get my IMEI added to this list which should supposedly allow for the VOLTE to then function on the AT&T network. And so if this actually ends up working I will report back so others can do the same if they wish to use VOLTE on AT&T.
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This support doc from ATT mentions needing a specific SIM to be able to access voLTE. Did you make sure yours was indeed a UICC-G SIM card ?
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB425890&cv=820
Yeah but that's not the problem this sim came right out of my att galaxy s6 which the VOLTE worked very well on. I'm gonna call back later today after work and see if my case went anywhere
Crappyvate said:
This support doc from ATT mentions needing a specific SIM to be able to access voLTE. Did you make sure yours was indeed a UICC-G SIM card ?
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB425890&cv=820
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I have a Pure on ATT, with a brand new NanoSIM card (picked it up from the AT&T store just after I picked up the phone); the 9th and 10th digits of the ICCID are '27', so it is a UICC-G SIM.. I was bummed to see that VoLTE wouldn't work on the device; all my investigation led me to the phone not being whitelisted in ATT's database. The 'Enhanced 4G LTE Mode' setting doesn't show up at all under Cellular Networks. I ran across a page that says to do the '*#*#4636#*#*' trick, go to 'Phone Info', and make sure that the toggle shows 'TURN OFF VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG' (versus 'Turn On').. on my phone it showed it as provisioned to start with, but the option to enable Enhanced 4G LTE still is gone.
Apparently with Verizon customers, if the provisioned flag is on, but that menu option is missing, they need to log into their Verizon account and enable the 'HD Voice' flag on their account, at which point the option to enable it will show up. I'm guessing that basically whitelists their devices IMEI, which is the part we're apparently missing with ATT. :/
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timde9 said:
Yeah but that's not the problem this sim came right out of my att galaxy s6 which the VOLTE worked very well on. I'm gonna call back later today after work and see if my case went anywhere
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Hopefully it will, or else they will figure out that they need to let people who want this enable it and make it an account setting we can change! Verizon allows BYOD HD Voice, why can't ATT?!
natecarlson said:
I have a Pure on ATT, with a brand new NanoSIM card (picked it up from the AT&T store just after I picked up the phone); the 9th and 10th digits of the ICCID are '27', so it is a UICC-G SIM.. I was bummed to see that VoLTE wouldn't work on the device; all my investigation led me to the phone not being whitelisted in ATT's database. The 'Enhanced 4G LTE Mode' setting doesn't show up at all under Cellular Networks. I ran across a page that says to do the '*#*#4636#*#*' trick, go to 'Phone Info', and make sure that the toggle shows 'TURN OFF VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG' (versus 'Turn On').. on my phone it showed it as provisioned to start with, but the option to enable Enhanced 4G LTE still is gone.
Apparently with Verizon customers, if the provisioned flag is on, but that menu option is missing, they need to log into their Verizon account and enable the 'HD Voice' flag on their account, at which point the option to enable it will show up. I'm guessing that basically whitelists their devices IMEI, which is the part we're apparently missing with ATT. :/
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Hopefully it will, or else they will figure out that they need to let people who want this enable it and make it an account setting we can change! Verizon allows BYOD HD Voice, why can't ATT?!
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I will follow up with ATT as well as they assure me that voLTE was available in my area..
Your APN also needs to point the the correct server.
APN: nxtgenphone
MMSC: http://mmsc.mobile.att.net
MMS Proxy: proxy.mobile.att.net
MMS Port: 80
APN Type: default,mms,supl,hipri,fota
My question is how to tell when you are on VOLTE?
goolac said:
My question is how to tell when you are on VOLTE?
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If you can see the "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" setting, and it's turned on, in theory it should work.
Then, when you place a call, your status bar's cell signal icon should still show 'LTE' instead of falling back to 'HSPA'.
I ordered this phone via Moto Maker and expect to have it in my hands next week. I currently have an older AT&T sim from my Samsung Galaxy S4, and imagine that I would need a new one to utilize VoLTE. Thanks to all of you trying to figure this out.
I found out from another at&t rep that the guy who told me about creating a case apparently did nothing but keep me on hold for a long time because she couldn't locate this apparent case anywhere. After asking her some hard questions I have gotten her to divulge that hdvoice and VOLTE are operating on lte band 2 or 1900 frequency. If I'm not mistaken this phone is already capable of that band right now even without marshmallow so there is almost certainly some sort of white list on at&ts part. Honestly I will probably write to the President about this because its not like its a security issue its just an absurdity
I asked a friend of mine that works as a manager at a corporate store here in town if he knew anything about it... He said it would be something to ask tech support, but he's not heard of a whitelist for VoLTE services. He did also say that most of what they do is just adding IMEI's to the system, and that they don't get BYOD cases very often...
I also work for AT&T, but not in the mobility side... Currently no contacts in the tech side of mobility either.
/scratches head
Am I the only one thinking that this really shouldn't be such a big mystery?
Especially for actual AT&T Wireless reps?
Here is a link to the ATT HD Voice info page... Turns out I have a goPhone plan and so HD is restricted.
http://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KM1046250
It says in my online account that I am provisioned for VOLTE and from what I discovered from tech support the VOLTE operates on a frequency band that is fully supported by this phone. A whitelisting approach is then the only possible explanation at this point and I will be writing, the President to figure out why
It seems that VOLTE is not yet available on our phones. This is what I was told:
"Enrique: At the moment, VOLTE is only compatible with your Samsung S5 for the Moto X Pure, we are still waiting for a firmware update from Motroloa to have the feature enabled."
and then
"Enrique: Actually when the firmware is released, VOLTE will automatically be enabled on the Moto X, all you need to do is turn it on by heading over to Settings > More Networks > Mobile Networks > VoLTE"
So it seems we need a firmware update from Motorola. Maybe I missed something on this, though?
I called AT&T yesterday and they also confirmed that your account must be 'enabled' for VoLTE, but their "advanced' engineers (whatever this means) also need to provision your device on the back end. My ticket has an SLA of 12/22. I suspect it should be done much sooner than this and will also update everyone on my findings/results.
Just FYI, volte works perfectly on my MXPE on Verizon. I did have to call and have the feature added. Rebooted the phone, and it was enabled. The firmware DOES fully support it so the problem is likely on AT&T's end. Please keep us updated.
Update from ATT Advanced Tech Support.
"April: At this time we only support VOLTE for AT&T devices."
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So upon further discussion with ATT Advanced Tech Support, the MXPE is NOT on their list of approved VOLTE devices because it's not an ATT device.
That sucks.
Yep, AT&T is the worst carrier because they are one of the largest (just behind Verizon) and aren't bound to any regulation such as the C-block agreement that Verizon must adhere to. So, that means that AT&T services can be restricted to AT&T devices and only those devices. Verizon and T-Mobile have opened up VoLTE to unlocked phones, however Wifi calling seems to be another story. T-Mobile makes Wifi calling available to Nexus devices, and I'm not sure if agreements are needed between the carrier and phone manufacturer (or proxy for Nexuses - Google). Verizon will definitely limit Wifi calling to Verizon devices too, I'm sure of it, at least at the start. They'll make up some technical or security reason for disallowing unlocked phones.
I wouldn't worry about it too much though. VoLTE is more of a necessity for Verizon because they can't do simultaneous voice/data when on a CDMA call (2013 Moto X can). HSPA/HSPA+ supports voice and data. VoLTE often comes with other issues too, depending on network congestion. Unfortunately, carriers are struggling to keep up with demand for data, and VoLTE is no exception to that as calls are data packets.
VoLTE and VoWifi (Wifi calling) are part of the IMS services framework, and it is up to the carrier to allow access to that framework.
timde9 said:
I found out from another at&t rep that the guy who told me about creating a case apparently did nothing but keep me on hold for a long time because she couldn't locate this apparent case anywhere. After asking her some hard questions I have gotten her to divulge that hdvoice and VOLTE are operating on lte band 2 or 1900 frequency. If I'm not mistaken this phone is already capable of that band right now even without marshmallow so there is almost certainly some sort of white list on at&ts part. Honestly I will probably write to the President about this because its not like its a security issue its just an absurdity
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This isn't surprising. I recently had a HORRIBLE experience with AT&T U-Verse (yes I know, different department but same company). They sold me "fiber" Internet which turned out to be DSL and talked me into switching from 60MBPS Charter cable. Long story short, one of the many lies I was told is that I could cancel within the first month without paying any service or installation charges.
....so I cancelled in July only a couple weeks after starting service. I was told by a rep that I would receive a bill only because it's issued before the adjustments are issued and that the account will be zeroed out. The following month I called back when I got another bill. And I've called every month since (several times a month) and received the same story from every rep I've talked to. Each rep says they've zeroed the account but they can't e-mail or fax out any confirmation. I've even been told this by managers. Some of the reps are too lazy for this lie and they'll pretend I've called the wrong department and transfer me to a dead extension, which disconnects the call.
Yesterday I received a collection notice for this. That's going to ding my 809 credit score! AT&T is a shady company! As a long time Verizon Wireless customer I can say that I've never received this kind of service from any tier of their support. I'd highly recommend anyone having issues with AT&T to make the switch. What company can't send external communications? I've had Verizon reps send me e-mails, call me back, or even send official texts while on a call. AT&T is a garbage company and I pity any soul trying to get them to do anything other than bill you.
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Using my G4 Plus on Verizon -- observations -- comments on HD Voice

This is my first time back in the world of Android use (as a daily driver) since 2013. I used to be a custom ROM-aholic, but now I just appreciate Android for what it is a mature OS that offers more flexibility than IOS. I wanted to buy a phone outright. And although they have more minuses than other carriers, I wanted to stay with Verizon.
I don't play games on my phone. The only time I ever found it to be choppy was when I used an app, albeit one that is actively updated, that did not play well with my phone. Headset Button Controller either doesn't seem to work with 6.0 or has issues with Moto phones. . It always did a nice job of playing non-google audio apps when then screen was locked. My all-time indespensible Android app is Dogg Catcher (yes, I am podcast nerd). I started having weird freezes on my G4 Plus when using the Headset BC app, especially when unlocking. Once I removed the app, the problems seemed to go away. Setting Dogg Catcher to stay alive seems to fix my problem.
One issue I have is with the VoLTE or what Verizon calls Advanced calling (a subset of a feature Verizon calls HD voice). Apparently, the phone supports VoLTE out of the box. I looked into the chipset specs. However, it seems that Verizon uses a non-standard implementation of HD Voice. Is that correct? I do not see Advanced Calling in my settings menu. I decided to try an ATT sim for kicks. I was able to get LTE (I live in an area with a strong ATT LTE signal). However when I went to make calls -- my phone dropped down to "H" -- 3G -- allowing calls and data. Yes, I know that ATT offers 3G calling / data simultaneously and verizon doesn't.
I talked to two senior level verizon technical service reps this week. Both essentially told me that every carrier implements HD Voice a little differently. The XT1644 phone registers in Verizon's database however, they are not showing that it supports HD Voice. I tried to explain to them that unlocked phones like the Moto X Pure, Nexus 5, and this one -- will not support the fullness of HD Voice, but can set to allow advanced calling. They told me that this wasn't available on their system yet for this model.
For some of you non-US G4 / G4 Plus users -- have you gotten VoLTE working yet? Will it really take a collaboration between Moto and major carriers as I was told?
I have Verizon. The phone supports and does indeed work on Verizon VoLTE. Settings > More > Cellular Networks > Enhanced 4G LTE Mode. Should be on by default. Works fine for me, allows me to call and use data over LTE at the same time.
AT&T does not support VoLTE on non-AT&T phones, so your calls will always fall back to 2G/3G.
At this time, yes VoLTE does depend on a collaboration between the carrier and the OEM. Hopefully that doesn't remain the case.
xtermmin said:
I have Verizon. The phone supports and does indeed work on Verizon VoLTE. Settings > More > Cellular Networks > Enhanced 4G LTE Mode. Should be on by default. Works fine for me, allows me to call and use data over LTE at the same time.
AT&T does not support VoLTE on non-AT&T phones, so your calls will always fall back to 2G/3G.
At this time, yes VoLTE does depend on a collaboration between the carrier and the OEM. Hopefully that doesn't remain the case.
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It was a huge fiasco for me with Verizon this week. One CSR told me that I needed a new SIM to get this feature. Local corporate Verizon store would not give me a sim because I was not adding a feature to my account and I wasn't buying anything. I end up talking to two senior level TSR representatives. One didn't really want to help me. The other one said she would submit a request to the "DSM" ( I may be spelling it wrong) department to have this feature turned on. She was supposed to call me back Friday and did not.
I am not wanting this for kicks, I can use this feature in my work. I tried the feature in Settings >> More >> and it does not show up.
Previously, I was using the 2015 (prepay) Moto E on my post pay account. That phone does not support voLTE. I am using the same SIM now. Verizon would not give me a SIM at _____ corp. store. I may go to another corp store if it will make a difference. Also, I cannot add HD voice / advanced calling online in My Verizon for this line.
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Previously, I was using the 2015 (prepay) Moto E on my post pay account. That phone does not support voLTE. I am using the same SIM now. Verizon would not give me a SIM at _____ corp. store. I may go to another corp store if it will make a difference. Also, I cannot add HD voice / advanced calling online in My Verizon for this line.
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I will also add that for being treated so rudely this week, Verizon did give me a $100 bill credit, but I still have not resolve the issue at the heart of my frustration.
strike3 said:
I will also add that for being treated so rudely this week, Verizon did give me a $100 bill credit, but I still have not resolve the issue at the heart of my frustration.
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As of Thursday morning -- I was not able to add the feature HD Voice to my account. Today I am. Problem solved. Phew!!!
strike3 said:
It was a huge fiasco for me with Verizon this week. One CSR told me that I needed a new SIM to get this feature. Local corporate Verizon store would not give me a sim because I was not adding a feature to my account and I wasn't buying anything. I end up talking to two senior level TSR representatives. One didn't really want to help me. The other one said she would submit a request to the "DSM" ( I may be spelling it wrong) department to have this feature turned on. She was supposed to call me back Friday and did not.
I am not wanting this for kicks, I can use this feature in my work. I tried the feature in Settings >> More >> and it does not show up.
Previously, I was using the 2015 (prepay) Moto E on my post pay account. That phone does not support voLTE. I am using the same SIM now. Verizon would not give me a SIM at _____ corp. store. I may go to another corp store if it will make a difference. Also, I cannot add HD voice / advanced calling online in My Verizon for this line.
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Yeah, unfortunately not all CSRs are knowledgeable. Easier to turn to the Internet to look for help lol
Congrats on getting everything working!
I really wanted to US pre-order the G4 Plus 64 GB version and wanted to grab one on release day. I'm seeing way to many issues on connectivity, especially new customers. Verizon and AT&T would be new accounts for me. The issue of only a corporate store can hook up the phone with the rep placing the sim into a demo phone and things might work in a day or so by Moto rep on their main forum. For a $300 phone and a new service, case, screen protector that are all musts. They need to get their issues fixed. It wasn't a surprise this phone was coming out. I've been dealing with a junk no service at home scenario for 4 weeks now waiting on the G4 Plus. I work 12 hour shifts 3rd shift and I can't really find time to drive around back and forth and hope and pray a rep can do some twists and turns with a sim sadly
MustangLife03 said:
I really wanted to US pre-order the G4 Plus 64 GB version and wanted to grab one on release day. I'm seeing way to many issues on connectivity, especially new customers. Verizon and AT&T would be new accounts for me. The issue of only a corporate store can hook up the phone with the rep placing the sim into a demo phone and things might work in a day or so by Moto rep on their main forum. For a $300 phone and a new service, case, screen protector that are all musts. They need to get their issues fixed. It wasn't a surprise this phone was coming out. I've been dealing with a junk no service at home scenario for 4 weeks now waiting on the G4 Plus. I work 12 hour shifts 3rd shift and I can't really find time to drive around back and forth and hope and pray a rep can do some twists and turns with a sim sadly
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This is an issue with Verizon, not with the phone. There isn't much Motorola can do about it besides get mad at Verizon.
There aren't any connectivity issues, the issue is rather with Verizon activating a new SIM card in the device. The workaround is not restricted to corporate stores, but corporate stores do give SIMs for free, while 3rd party authorized retailers make you pay for SIMs. If you're signing up for new service anyway, there's no need to drive around back and forth, just do it all in one go.
xtermmin said:
This is an issue with Verizon, not with the phone. There isn't much Motorola can do about it besides get mad at Verizon.
There aren't any connectivity issues, the issue is rather with Verizon activating a new SIM card in the device. The workaround is not restricted to corporate stores, but corporate stores do give SIMs for free, while 3rd party authorized retailers make you pay for SIMs. If you're signing up for new service anyway, there's no need to drive around back and forth, just do it all in one go.
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I know the whole situation and all the options as you basically just re-worded what I said in a few sentences. I've been on the official Moto forums. Not everybody has a working g4 or g4 plus phone right now. It doesn't matter if the phone working on Verizon is a Motorola issure or a Verizon issue. You still can't order a phone and pop in a sim card with a new account and have a working phone. I haven't had to go to a cell phone store to get a phone working in 9 or 10 years maybe longer. Even from memory when the Samsung Blackjack, Moto Razr and 09 IPhone (3g or 3gs can't remember) was plug and play. 2016 buying a phone and having issues from day 1 can't be tolerated from me or anyone else. All these manufacturers, companies, etc are getting clumsy and lazy. Especially the last 2 years. There was a time you could buy a phone and it have no bugs whatsoever. I've owned many phones like this. Maybe 6-12 months issues start to happen. Everything is rushed, From planning to parts to google OS to the manufacturer to the provider. Something seems to always be incomplete. Like lets release 5.0 with a whole bunch of issues so we can get some money rolling in and just release a update when we can. Connectivity issue to me is the phone not connected. Doesn't matter if its a full moon the cause of it. I can't go to Sprint or T-Mobile because the service at home/work is minimal. Verizon is the king in my city and at&t second but at&t pre-paid doesn't have options like there post paid (wifi calling, volte, etc)
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I know the whole situation and all the options as you basically just re-worded what I said in a few sentences. I've been on the official Moto forums. Not everybody has a working g4 or g4 plus phone right now. It doesn't matter if the phone working on Verizon is a Motorola issure or a Verizon issue. You still can't order a phone and pop in a sim card with a new account and have a working phone. I haven't had to go to a cell phone store to get a phone working in 9 or 10 years maybe longer. Even from memory when the Samsung Blackjack, Moto Razr and 09 IPhone (3g or 3gs can't remember) was plug and play. 2016 buying a phone and having issues from day 1 can't be tolerated from me or anyone else. All these manufacturers, companies, etc are getting clumsy and lazy. Especially the last 2 years. There was a time you could buy a phone and it have no bugs whatsoever. I've owned many phones like this. Maybe 6-12 months issues start to happen. Everything is rushed, From planning to parts to google OS to the manufacturer to the provider. Something seems to always be incomplete. Like lets release 5.0 with a whole bunch of issues so we can get some money rolling in and just release a update when we can. Connectivity issue to me is the phone not connected. Doesn't matter if its a full moon the cause of it. I can't go to Sprint or T-Mobile because the service at home/work is minimal. Verizon is the king in my city and at&t second but at&t pre-paid doesn't have options like there post paid (wifi calling, volte, etc)
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The issue is not with Motorola, it's totally and completely an issue with Verizon's system. This issue affects any non-approved phone you bring to Verizon, not just the G4. You should really direct your complaints to Verizon, post on Verizon forums, etc. Motorola can't do anything about it, as they do not have access to Verizon's activation system.
Mobile hotspot
Does the mobile hotspot work out the box for folks with unlimited data or does it require rooting to disable the carrier check?
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Does the mobile hotspot work out the box for folks with unlimited data or does it require rooting to disable the carrier check?
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I have a UDP, hotspot worked out of the box.
One last question, does data and voice work at the same time? It does with my moto pure, but not my nexus 5x.
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One last question, does data and voice work at the same time? It does with my moto pure, but not my nexus 5x.
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Yes, it supports Verizon VoLTE (which enables simultaneous voice and data over LTE).
How was the problem solved? Having the similar issues.

Using unlocked Pixel from Google Store on Verizon?

UPDATE: Droid Life confirms unlocked Pixel works on Verizon. :good:
I just wanted some clarification on this.
I've been getting some conflicting information around this question, so I wanted to post it here in case anyone knows.
Can the unlocked Pixel purchased from the Google Store be used on Verizon?
I bought the 5X and 6P unlocked from the Google Store and have used them both on Project Fi and Verizon. I just wanted to know if I could do the same with the Pixel.
Thanks and sorry if this has been explained clearly elsewhere.
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I just wanted some clarification on this.
I've been getting some conflicting information around this question, so I wanted to post it here in case anyone knows.
Can the unlocked Pixel purchased from the Google Store be used on Verizon?
I bought the 5X and 6P unlocked from the Google Store and have used them both on Project Fi and Verizon. I just wanted to know if I could do the same with the Pixel.
Thanks and sorry if this has been explained clearly elsewhere.
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Yes. It is compatible with CDMA and all of Verizon's LTE bands, and the description in the Google store says it's compatible with all major US carriers. However, you won't be able to use features that require Verizon software like wifi calling and VoLTE. Personally, I don't care about those things. I'm on Verizon and I'm seriously considering buying from the Google store.
You'll need an activated Verizon nano SIM card though.
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However, you won't be able to use features that require Verizon software like wifi calling and VoLTE.
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I'm not sure that's true. For example, my unlocked Nexus 6 purchased from Motorola is able to use VoLTE. I don't have wifi calling, but I don't think Nexus 6 has wifi calling at all for Verizon, as it doesn't show up as a supported device: https://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/wificalling/
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I'm not sure that's true. For example, my unlocked Nexus 6 purchased from Motorola is able to use VoLTE. I don't have wifi calling, but I don't think Nexus 6 has wifi calling at all for Verizon, as it doesn't show up as a supported device: https://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/wificalling/
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You might be right about that. We won't know until someone tries it.
sethwalters said:
I just wanted some clarification on this.
I've been getting some conflicting information around this question, so I wanted to post it here in case anyone knows.
Can the unlocked Pixel purchased from the Google Store be used on Verizon?
I bought the 5X and 6P unlocked from the Google Store and have used them both on Project Fi and Verizon. I just wanted to know if I could do the same with the Pixel.
Thanks and sorry if this has been explained clearly elsewhere.
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Good question. I suspect the answer is you'll be able to use it, the question is just how degraded the experience will be. When the Nexus 6 launched there were several problems with using the unlocked version:
The bring-your-own-device discount did not show up for unlocked Nexus 6, only Verizon-purchased Nexus 6
It was extremely difficult to activate a new SIM on the phone
They did eventually reinstate the discount after many people filed complaints with the FCC.
I didn't follow the 6P/5X launch very closely... how did those work on Verizon? That might give a better clue than the Nexus 6 launch since it's more recent.
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Good question. I suspect the answer is you'll be able to use it, the question is just how degraded the experience will be. When the Nexus 6 launched there were several problems with using the unlocked version:
The bring-your-own-device discount did not show up for unlocked Nexus 6, only Verizon-purchased Nexus 6
It was extremely difficult to activate a new SIM on the phone
They did eventually reinstate the discount after many people filed complaints with the FCC.
I didn't follow the 6P/5X launch very closely... how did those work on Verizon? That might give a better clue than the Nexus 6 launch since it's more recent.
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If it's like it was on my 6p, then plug in your nano sim and go! I've had zero issues with Big Red over the last year, and Volte is working fine and dandy [emoji106]
Badger50 said:
If it's like it was on my 6p, then plug in your nano sim and go! I've had zero issues with Big Red over the last year, and Volte is working fine and dandy [emoji106]
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To clarify, you got your 6P unlocked from Google/whoever, not Verizon? And Verizon is giving you the $25/month discount (assuming you are not under contract)?
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stevexyz0 said:
To clarify, you got your 6P unlocked from Google/whoever, not Verizon? And Verizon is giving you the $25/month discount (assuming you are not under contract)?
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You are correct. Got the phone from Google, plugged in my Verizon sim and it's still working fine. I'm not under contract, I never am, however, not seeing any $25 discount from Big Red. Guess they keep that for themselves [emoji16]
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Pardon me, I'm from Canada where we haven't had any CDMA for years. Aren't Sprint and Verizon CDMA whole at&t and T-Mobile are GSM? How would one phone work across all the networks? And, at least last time we had CDMA up here, you didn't use a SIM card with it. Has that changed? Just curious, it doesn't affect me at all.
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You are correct. Got the phone from Google, plugged in my Verizon sim and it's still working fine. I'm not under contract, I never am, however, not seeing any $25 discount from Big Red. Guess they keep that for themselves [emoji16]
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I wouldn't call paying $300/year extra "fine". You might want to look into it, I believe you have to request the discount. It's been a while since I dealt with this though.
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I wouldn't call paying $300/year extra "fine". You might want to look into it, I believe you have to request the discount. It's been a while since I dealt with this though.
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Good info my friend. Thanks for the tip [emoji106]
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Badger50 said:
If it's like it was on my 6p, then plug in your nano sim and go! I've had zero issues with Big Red over the last year, and Volte is working fine and dandy [emoji106]
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Hey dude... I recently switched over to Verizon, and have had a 6P since launch last year. Was wondering, what exactly is voLTE, is there something special that has to be done to make it work, and do you know IF there is any way to get wifi calling to work? I do tend to need it since at times I don't get good reception...
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voLTE is just voice over LTE which you already have which basically means voice and data simultaneously. And no WiFi calling calling available on Verizon. At least not to my knowledge anyway [emoji106]
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Just to add...
My son's 6p works great on Verizon. He has VoLTE and get's the non contract discount. Never had a problem with it. I had the original Google Play store Nexus 6 and ran into problems initially. But like someone else stated, everything is fine now. I even bought an unlocked one not too long ago and had no issues with it. I don't think we will have any problems with the Pixels.
Droid Life confirms unlocked Pixel works on Verizon. :good:
stevexyz0 said:
To clarify, you got your 6P unlocked from Google/whoever, not Verizon? And Verizon is giving you the $25/month discount (assuming you are not under contract)?
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I also want to confirm that with the Nexus 5X from Google (rooted and custom ROM) works flawlessly on Verizon and I get the $25/mo access discount on the line. VoLTE works great. I just select the Enhanced 4G LTE Mode under Cellular networks menu on the settings.
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Hey dude... I recently switched over to Verizon, and have had a 6P since launch last year. Was wondering, what exactly is voLTE, is there something special that has to be done to make it work, and do you know IF there is any way to get wifi calling to work? I do tend to need it since at times I don't get good reception...
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VoLTE is Voice over LTE. It means voice calls are transmitted over the new LTE network instead of the legacy CDMA network (or GSM in the case of carriers besides Verizon/Sprint).
It's important because if your phone has only a half-duplex modem, as most recent CDMA phones starting around the time of Droid Turbo and Nexus 6 do, you can't conduct a voice call (circuit switched) and have an LTE data connection (packet switched) at the same time. (Interestingly GSM carriers can do a GSM voice stream and LTE data stream at the same time with a half-duplex modem since there's a standard for doing that, but it's not possible with CDMA and LTE without a more expensive full-duplex modem.)
How can you tell if VoLTE is working for you? Turn off wifi for the purpose of the test, if you're connected to a wifi network (you're testing whether you can do data over the cell network, not wifi, while a call is ongoing). Verify the "LTE" logo shows up next to the cell signal strength indicator. Place a voice call. If the "LTE" logo disappears while the voice call is ongoing, you don't have VoLTE. If it remains, you're good. Most importantly, try using data e.g. web browser over cellular data while on a voice call.
What if the VoLTE test doesn't work? On your My Verizon account, go to My Plan & Services -> Manage Products & Apps , and make sure "HD Voice" (they used to call it Advanced Calling) is enabled. On your Nexus Settings, go to Wireless & Networks -> More -> Cellular Networks, and turn on "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" if it isn't already. Note that turning on HD Voice on your Verizon account requires you to switch to either Basic or Premium Visual Voicemail -- the old fashioned voice mail doesn't work with it.
What's the difference between VoLTE and HD Voice? VoLTE is about the connection from your phone to the Verizon tower, and it applies no matter whom you are calling; it enables simultaneous voice and data. HD Voice is a high-bandwidth codec for much better sounding voice calls, but the other end has to support it too, so it only works if you have VoLTE (HD Voice over non-LTE is theoretically possible but Verizon doesn't support it) AND if the person you are calling supports HD Voice too (e.g. another recent Nexus or iPhone that's correctly configured). You can tell if HD Voice is working because the "HD" icon will appear in the dialer AFTER THE OTHER PERSON PICKS UP THE CALL, but you won't even need to look for the icon because the call will sound so vastly better that it will be obvious.
What about Wifi calling on Verizon? They actually DO support it, but not on Nexus devices. Here is their FAQ and list of supported devices, which does not include Nexus 6/6P. I have personally seen it working on a Verizon iPhone so I know they have it. And, according to this, the Pixel will support wifi calling on Verizon!
craig0r said:
Pardon me, I'm from Canada where we haven't had any CDMA for years. Aren't Sprint and Verizon CDMA whole at&t and T-Mobile are GSM? How would one phone work across all the networks? And, at least last time we had CDMA up here, you didn't use a SIM card with it. Has that changed? Just curious, it doesn't affect me at all.
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The Pixel, along with many "international" phones, supports both CDMA and GSM networks. And yes, CDMA carriers like Verizon started using SIM cards several years ago. I think it's necessary in order to offer LTE compatibility, but I don't know the details.
TheSt33v said:
The Pixel, along with many "international" phones, supports both CDMA and GSM networks. And yes, CDMA carriers like Verizon started using SIM cards several years ago. I think it's necessary in order to offer LTE compatibility, but I don't know the details.
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LTE is GSM based at it's core, so basically yes LTE is the reason for CDMA carriers adding sim cards.
CDMA will eventually disappear completely as VOLTE replaces 2g and 3g for both voice and data transmission.
Wi-Fi calling is the only question, but even if it requires some proprietary VZW bull, an unlocked bootloader should let us flash their image if it ended up being necessary, but that's a last resort I don't expect to face...

WiFi Calling on Factory Unlocked S8+

A couple of weeks back, I purchased a factory unlocked S8+ Model #G955U1, Baseband Version G955U1EU1AQE3 (The AT&T Galaxy S8+ has different Model and Build #s), inserted my AT&T SIM card and have been using it since. Then I decided to activate WiFi calling, however, unlike my wife's iPhone 7, my Galaxy does not have the option to enable WiFi calling (this option should be under Settings>Connections). After some research, I found out that this a carrier feature which AT&T must provision. When I asked them to do it, they provisioned it on my wife's iPhone 7 but not on my Galaxy, so I called them again and asked them to provision it on the Galaxy. Although they insist that they did, the feature does not show up on under AT&T Devices (It shows up under the iPhone but not the Galaxy). After spending no less than two hours speaking to three agents, I learned that AT&T does not have in their data base the IMEI number of the Galaxy because it was not purchased through them. So obviously, not having an IMEI number, the WiFi calling feature is not going to be pushed to my Galaxy. Not being able to solve the problem, they escalated it to another level who is supposed to contact me two days from now. A friend purchased his Galaxy S8+ through AT&T and the WiFi calling option is there in Settings>Connection and he is able to toggle it on or off. When I used AT&T's IMEI Verification tool, the result was "Device is compatible but we cannot find matching SIM card".
Any and all input would be appreciated.
Same here. Looks like wifi calling is not a feature that is available on the unlocked version unfortunately. Same with using LTE while on calls and built in visual voicemail :/
You have some advantages going unlocked but you lose some things too.
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But you can always use Odin to flash the ATT firmware to the unlocked device. There's plenty of threads here regarding this very subject.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
But you can always use Odin to flash the ATT firmware to the unlocked device. There's plenty of threads here regarding this very subject.
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True, just keep in mind that future att updates can't be done via OTA - which can be a pain too.
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With the unlocked s8+ i've found that wifi calling and volte only worked on T-Mobile, I tried it with T-Mo and verizon. It stinks that ATT cant be more like T-Mo with accepting non branded devices
Poison423 said:
With the unlocked s8+ i've found that wifi calling and volte only worked on T-Mobile, I tried it with T-Mo and verizon. It stinks that ATT cant be more like T-Mo with accepting non branded devices
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Same here. No issues with wi-fi calling on T-Mobile network. I also have the same unlocked phone.
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Gr8man001 said:
Same here. No issues with wi-fi calling on T-Mobile network. I also have the same unlocked phone.
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I am pleasantly surprised and a bit puzzled because when I spoke to T-Mobile Tech yesterday, she could not confirm if WiFi calling will work on unlocked S8+. If I can be assured that it will work, I will switch to T-Mobile.
Please do me a great favor and check if your unlocked S8+ has the same Model and Build Numbers as mine. Here are my numbers:
Model #G955U1
SM-G955UZKAXAA
Baseband Version G955U1EU1AQE3
Thank you.
TheBoozer said:
I am pleasantly surprised and a bit puzzled because when I spoke to T-Mobile Tech yesterday, she could not confirm if WiFi calling will work on unlocked S8+. If I can be assured that it will work, I will switch to T-Mobile.
Please do me a great favor and check if your unlocked S8+ has the same Model and Build Numbers as mine. Here are my numbers:
Model #G955U1
SM-G955UZKAXAA
Baseband Version G955U1EU1AQE3
Thank you.
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All the information you provided matched with my phone. As a matter of fact, I also tried my friends SIM who is on MVNO called Mint Mobile that runs on T-mobile network. Mint also allowed me to make wi-fi calling. I am surprised that t-mobile rep could not confirm this feature because this feature is on by default! If I don't want to make wifi calls, I have to turn it off. The only little annoying part is that you get constant notification," Calls will be made over WiFi". Even when you block this notification, it will reappear on the reboot
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All the information you provided matched with my phone. As a matter of fact, I also tried my friends SIM who is on MVNO called Mint Mobile that runs on T-mobile network. Mint also allowed me to make wi-fi calling. I am surprised that t-mobile rep could not confirm this feature because this feature is on by default! If I don't want to make wifi calls, I have to turn it off. The only little annoying part is that you get constant notification," Calls will be made over WiFi". Even when you block this notification, it will reappear on the reboot
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Thank you indeed for your response. When I got my S8+ and before inserting AT&T SIM, this feature was NOT listed under Settings>Connections. I was informed by a Samsung agent that the carriers will push this feature to the phone through their SIM after they provision the feature. So now since my SIM is AT&T and my phone is unlocked, and its IMEI number is not in AT&T's data base, I don't have the feature listed.
Unfortunately, I can't comment on at&t network. On t-mobile, I did not have to do anything except during the initial setup, I was asked if I was ok to make wifi phone calls when a wifi connection was available & the signal was strong. I still have the option not to use this feature. You may wantvto visit a t-mobile store or find a friend who is on t-mobile network. It might not be a bad idea to reset the phone (after backing up) when you get the new sim card. Good luck ?
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Unfortunately, I can't comment on at&t network. On t-mobile, I did not have to do anything except during the initial setup, I was asked if I was ok to make wifi phone calls when a wifi connection was available & the signal was strong. I still have the option not to use this feature. You may wantvto visit a t-mobile store or find a friend who is on t-mobile network. It might not be a bad idea to reset the phone (after backing up) when you get the new sim card. Good luck ?
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Very good advice, thank you again for all your help.
on my s8+ wifi calling option is found in the phone settings , simply open the phone app hit those 3 dots , choose settings and wifi calling is at the bottom of the options .
peekie said:
on my s8+ wifi calling option is found in the phone settings , simply open the phone app hit those 3 dots , choose settings and wifi calling is at the bottom of the options .
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I switched yesterday from AT&T to T-Mobile and immediately the wifi calling showed up in Phone Settings as you mentioned. However before switching from AT&T to T-Mobile, wifi calling was not anywhere to be found.
TheBoozer said:
I switched yesterday from AT&T to T-Mobile and immediately the wifi calling showed up in Phone Settings as you mentioned. However before switching from AT&T to T-Mobile, wifi calling was not anywhere to be found.
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That's because WiFi calling and VoLTE are not available on ATT using the US Unlocked device. You have to either buy an ATT carrier version, or flash the ATT firmware to your current device.
Try to reset to factory defaults with sim inside
I'm on Argentina and with unlocked software i got wifi calling when the device is set up with my sim inside
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That's because WiFi calling and VoLTE are not available on ATT using the US Unlocked device. You have to either buy an ATT carrier version, or flash the ATT firmware to your current device.
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I found that after wasting several hours with AT&T's techs. The 3rd option is to dump AT&T and switch to a carrier that has wifi calling available for unlocked S8/S8+ phones such as T-Mobile.
Wi-Fi Calling works great for me
TheBoozer said:
A couple of weeks back, I purchased a factory unlocked S8+ Model #G955U1, Baseband Version G955U1EU1AQE3 (The AT&T Galaxy S8+ has different Model and Build #s), inserted my AT&T SIM card and have been using it since. Then I decided to activate WiFi calling, however, unlike my wife's iPhone 7, my Galaxy does not have the option to enable WiFi calling (this option should be under Settings>Connections). After some research, I found out that this a carrier feature which AT&T must provision. When I asked them to do it, they provisioned it on my wife's iPhone 7 but not on my Galaxy, so I called them again and asked them to provision it on the Galaxy. Although they insist that they did, the feature does not show up on under AT&T Devices (It shows up under the iPhone but not the Galaxy). After spending no less than two hours speaking to three agents, I learned that AT&T does not have in their data base the IMEI number of the Galaxy because it was not purchased through them. So obviously, not having an IMEI number, the WiFi calling feature is not going to be pushed to my Galaxy. Not being able to solve the problem, they escalated it to another level who is supposed to contact me two days from now. A friend purchased his Galaxy S8+ through AT&T and the WiFi calling option is there in Settings>Connection and he is able to toggle it on or off. When I used AT&T's IMEI Verification tool, the result was "Device is compatible but we cannot find matching SIM card".
Any and all input would be appreciated.
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To access Wi-Fi calling you need to open your phone app and hit the settings button in the top right corner and then scroll all the way to the bottom and it will be there.
Goldenstreak76 said:
To access Wi-Fi calling you need to open your phone app and hit the settings button in the top right corner and then scroll all the way to the bottom and it will be there.
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Unlocked US version it isn't there on AT&T.
This is a Samsung Issue not AT&T...according to Samsung
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Info: Thank you for choosing to chat with us. An agent will be with you shortly.
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Rohit K: Hi, thank you for reaching out to Samsung Technical Support. How may I assist you?
You: how do i turn on HD voice on my s8+ on the att network?
Rohit K: I'll help you with the required information.
You: wi fi calling
Rohit K: Here are the steps.
Rohit K: Go to Settings. Tap Advanced Calling under WIRELESS NETWORKS. Tap Advanced Calling again to turn it On or Off.
You: I've gone through the steps outlined in your Wi-Fi calling setup but when I do the search no wi-fi calling shows up in the search
Rohit K: Just to confirm, is it a unlocked phone?
You: yes
Rohit K: Unfortunately, we cannot use the wifi calling option on the unlocked phones. Samsung is working on this issue.
You: That's odd....you would think it would work better. HOw long has it been an issue?
You: I just got my phone yesterday
Rohit K: The WiFi calling feature is disabled on the unlocked phones, as we can use any carrier on the unlocked phones.
Rohit K: You'll find it on the carrier enabled phone.
You: How can I exchange this phone for a new att phone
Rohit K: May I know the place of purchase?
You: Samsung.com
Rohit K: Yes, you can return the phone with in 15 days from the date of purchase.
Rohit K: We have a dedicated order support team, for your convenience I'll share the contact number of our dedicated team. Once contact them, they'll help you in exchanging the phone.
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Can i use sprint v50 on tmobile?

Thinking of buying a sprint v50. Will unlocked sprint version work on tmobile?
intruda119 said:
Thinking of buying a sprint v50. Will unlocked sprint version work on tmobile?
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I suggest you to go for the Korean model if it's not working. Just make sure to check lte bands for compatibility.
Inerent said:
I suggest you to go for the Korean model if it's not working. Just make sure to check lte bands for compatibility.
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Have a chance to get a good deal on a unlocked sprint version.
Then go for it. But be sure to be Sim unlocked and lte bands accepted. The Korean sells for 800$ on eBay. Also can be flashed with European firmware and supports secondary screen. Imo has better quality also software aside. Noticed with LG G7... If you got better deal then go for it.
Are you sure it's unlocked and if so, how was it unlocked? I have a Sprint model and I'm having to wait ‘til my 50 service days are up to get Sprint to unlock it. I've contacted some pretty good unlocking services and hearing the same thing from all; As of now only Sprint can unlock it.
As we all know Sprint 5G service area (like all others) is very small but they're still charging everyone who activates this phone on their service for a 5G service plan regardless of whether they have 5G service in your area or not. I got a great deal on a 3rd party phone but it was locked which I knew going in. As soon as it's unlocked, I'm going to try GFI. BTW, it's a great phone.
Inerent said:
Then go for it. But be sure to be Sim unlocked and lte bands accepted. The Korean sells for 800$ on eBay. Also can be flashed with European firmware and supports secondary screen. Imo has better quality also software aside. Noticed with LG G7... If you got better deal then go for it.
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Sadly lg value goes down extremely fast. I personally wouldnt spend anywhere close to retail with lg phones.
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Are you sure it's unlocked and if so, how was it unlocked? I have a Sprint model and I'm having to wait ‘til my 50 service days are up to get Sprint to unlock it. I've contacted some pretty good unlocking services and hearing the same thing from all; As of now only Sprint can unlock it.
As we all know Sprint 5G service area (like all others) is very small but they're still charging everyone who activates this phone on their service for a 5G service plan regardless of whether they have 5G service in your area or not. I got a great deal on a 3rd party phone but it was locked which I knew going in. As soon as it's unlocked, I'm going to try GFI. BTW, it's a great phone.
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Wont be sure until I put my sim card in but it owner says sim unlocked. No interest in 5g anytime soon. If possible will disable/limit to lte.
One thing's for sure.... LG phones drop like a rock! I couldn't wait but I’m thinking in two months this phone's (sprint model) probably going to be selling for $400. Imo the only thing holding the price up for now is there just aren't very many out in the wild. Kind of strange really, since according to the Ifixit breakdown, it has the same Qualcomm 5G X50 modem as both the Galaxy S10 5G phone and the new Note 5G. Otherwise the specs are very similar. I guess it’s all perceived value.
Just in from Sprint tech support;
Hello,
Letting you know your LG V450PM BLK XCVR SGL on line 954-xxx-xxxx
cannot be unlocked because it hasn't been active for more than 50 days.
Go to sprint.com/chat or call *2 for help.
Sincerely,
Shaun K.
Sprint
t-mobile
hooutoo said:
Just in from Sprint tech support;
Hello,
Letting you know your LG V450PM BLK XCVR SGL on line 954-xxx-xxxx
cannot be unlocked because it hasn't been active for more than 50 days.
Go to sprint.com/chat or call *2 for help.
Sincerely,
Shaun K.
Sprint
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so has anyone activated on t-mobile?
bobn27613 said:
so has anyone activated on t-mobile?
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My 50 days on Sprint are up in about a week. I'm moving back to Google Fi as soon as I unlock. Of course, Fi uses both Tmob & Sprint networks so I'm fairly sure is will work on one or the other.
bobn27613 said:
so has anyone activated on t-mobile?
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Im active on metropcs by tmobile.
Everything working fine but i keep getting an activate now popup that is really really annoying
LM-V450PM
Yeah, LG phones drop like a rock.
Some vendor on eBay was selling the Korean V50 with dual screen for $529......yeah.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V50-Thi...972866&hash=item1f015f8485:g:k9wAAOSw4kZdX2mi
I am just waiting for these to drop even more if that. Doubt the 5G works in other markets.
were you able to use wifi calling ? were you able to eliminate the 'activate' message. Thanks
Finally Sim unlocked and ported over to Simple Mobile, a Tmob Mvno. It was relatively painless and took less than an hour for the actual port. No reason to be on Sprint right now if you don't have 5G service in your area. I was on the phone with Sprint yesterday for at least an hour and a half and gave them every chance to do something about my bill. I asked them point blank why anyone would pay for 5G service when it's not even in their area? Their response was just lame. I'm guessing it will be at least one if not two years before 5G is working in a wide spread fashion in a lot of cities in the US.
Now, as for the service on Tmob's network, it's only been about a hour since I switched but have made couple of phone calls and run a couple of speed tests. Phone call quality seems same same and speed test speeds seemed the same as if I were on Tmob., 15 down and about 7-10 on the upload. Now the freaking really good news. Simple mobile is running a special for 3GBs data and unlimited talk, unlimited text. at $25 per month. If you do auto pay after taxes it's $22 and change.
are all t mobile bands available? Does it work with t mobile 5G?
As of right now, there seems to be a problem with the APN record on the sprint model. Sprint, the scumbag company that it is, has locked the APN. They'll unlock the phone to except other sim cards, no problem. But when your new provider tries to register your phone on their network it doesn't fully complete the process. In other words, part of the process is that a new APN record is pushed down to the phone identifying the new MMS DNS server for that network. I use Simple Mobile which is a MVNO of Tmob but Sprint has locked the APN on my V50. I;m still able to get data but can't send/receive pictures via text messages.
So be ware.
en11gma said:
Im active on metropcs by tmobile.
Everything working fine but i keep getting an activate now popup that is really really annoying
LM-V450PM
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does wifi calling work? how are updates handled . thank you
We have a pair of sprint unlocked V50 and just got an update over the metropcs service.
In the service menu it says voice over wifi is provisioned but in the settings network voice over wifi is off and the switch wont stay to on position when i toggle to on.
I still see my cellular connection in the notification area disappear then reappear.
Is this normal behavior or is it trying to activate in background? Maybe it checking for 5G?
I think it using more batt then usual possibly
Now....... finally, some good news and this took a bit of doing. To start off with I originally tried an old Fi sim card I had to port out of Sprint after those scumbags unlocked my V50. I kept getting a T077 error during the Google Fi activation process and Fi support just kept telling me that the V50 wasn't a supported device and they couldn’t help. I told them I thought it was a bad sim card so they suggest I pick up a new one at Best Buy. So, after a trip down to Best Buy I found out that they rarely have Fi cards in stock so I picked up a Simple Mobile (tmob mvno) sim for a buck and the port/activation sort of worked in that I successfully ported my number from Sprint and I was able to make calls and get data but couldn't receive/send pictures (MMS) in text. So, I said screw it and order another Fi Sim card thru the Google site and waited a week. I got it yesterday late and tried it this morning and crap it didn't work with the same activation error, T077. I have been scouring the internet for days for any info the error code and somewhere along the way I remember seeing something about taking the mvno card out and then putting the Fi card in and trying to activate without rebooting the phone. Now remember this is really all about not being able to edit the APN record with the correct DNS info so you can receive MMS picture by text. Anyway, after slipping in the FI sim card to my V50 the activation process suddenly squeaked on thru and low and behold I'm now running on Google Fi with MMS working and APN record is correctly updated the Fi info. I think the reason it worked was that the activation process thought I was a Tmob customer. When it asked me for account info to port my existing number to GFI the dialog screen show things like.... Enter your T-Mobile account number and asked what was the name on my T-Mobile account. But for whatever reason it worked and now I'm finally free of Sprint.
It worked for me but your mileage may very.
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Now....... finally, some good news and this took a bit of doing. To start off with I originally tried an old Fi sim card I had to port out of Sprint after those scumbags unlocked my V50. I kept getting a T077 error during the Google Fi activation process and Fi support just kept telling me that the V50 wasn't a supported device and they couldn’t help. I told them I thought it was a bad sim card so they suggest I pick up a new one at Best Buy. So, after a trip down to Best Buy I found out that they rarely have Fi cards in stock so I picked up a Simple Mobile (tmob mvno) sim for a buck and the port/activation sort of worked in that I successfully ported my number from Sprint and I was able to make calls and get data but couldn't receive/send pictures (MMS) in text. So, I said screw it and order another Fi Sim card thru the Google site and waited a week. I got it yesterday late and tried it this morning and crap it didn't work with the same activation error, T077. I have been scouring the internet for days for any info the error code and somewhere along the way I remember seeing something about taking the mvno card out and then putting the Fi card in and trying to activate without rebooting the phone. Now remember this is really all about not being able to edit the APN record with the correct DNS info so you can receive MMS picture by text. Anyway, after slipping in the FI sim card to my V50 the activation process suddenly squeaked on thru and low and behold I'm now running on Google Fi with MMS working and APN record is correctly updated the Fi info. I think the reason it worked was that the activation process thought I was a Tmob customer. When it asked me for account info to port my existing number to GFI the dialog screen show things like.... Enter your T-Mobile account number and asked what was the name on my T-Mobile account. But for whatever reason it worked and now I'm finally free of Sprint.
It worked for me but your mileage may very.
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What sms app do you use? Lg or Google? Cuz with Google messaging I have fully enabled RCS. Sending pics and videos over data and wifi. Why bother with mms when RCS technology is way better?

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