18:9|18.5:9 Aspect Ratio MEGA RANT - General Topics

What's the number one single most important thing about a screen's aspect ratio? IT'S COMPATIBILITY. Screen real-estate, maneuverability, SCROLLING POTENTIAL are all but NOTHING compared to compatibility. If my phone, or ANY electronic for that matter, features a screen incompatible with PRETTY MUCH EVERY OTHER VIDEO OR IMAGE on the internet and everywhere else, I WOULDN'T BUY IT. Do you know what you're doing when you buy phones with abominable aspect ratios?? You're FEEDING the corporate, capitalist minds of CEOs who think their customers are dumb enough to not notice black bars EVERYTIME they watch a video!
We need to GET REAL here: 99% (exaggeration) of ALL KNOW VIDEOS on the internet are in the 16:9 aspect ratio. Discarding old media (4:3), the rest are the professional movies recorded in 25.6:10.725 (2.39:1) and 12:5 (2.4:1 Blu-Ray crop). Now, one could argue Ultra-Wide 21:9 is acceptable due to it being very close to the cinematic standard of 2.39:1, but 18(.5):9 is NEITHER CINEMATIC NEITHER STANDARD AND NEITHER PRACTICAL!! We SHOULD NOT have to endure manufacturers being SO F'ING BRAIN-DEAD that they think our pleads to reduce bezels also mean we're willing to sacrifice a UNIVERSAL STANDARD. 25.6:10.725, 12:5, 21:9 (barely) and 16:9 are the ONLY ACCEPTABLE ASPECT RATIOS FOR A PLEASING EXPERIENCE. Why do we have to endure bezels like it's suddenly 2010 again? 18:9 WILL NOT BECOME A NEW STANDARD. It's literally a STUPID TREND, JUST LIKE REMOVING THE HEADPHONE JACK or MAKING BATTERIES IRREMOVABLE. It's gotten to the point where the Mi Mix, a revolutionary phone in terms of bezel-less design that KEPT the 16:9 ratio, was CHANGED TO 18:9 in the Mi Mix 2, JUST BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE WAS DOING THAT. The Mi Mix screen design was awesome, and was ENOUGH. That extra 1 to 2% of extra screen estate IS NOT WORTH THE HUGE BLACK BEZELS. What's the point of reducing physical bezels, only to increase digital ones? And in the era of (thank god) OLEDs, constant unchanging parts of the screen like digital bezels are just MENTAL to put on a display that is SUSCEPTIBLE TO BURN-IN. It's just DUMB to put a 18:9 aspect ratio on a screen. Keep it 16:9 for now, until we get rollable OLED, and when that time comes, make a screen that de-rolls from a 16:9 one to a 12:5/25.6:10.725 one. Why, oh why have manufacturers done this... Finger gymnastics and incapacity of one-handed use have never been as dire a situation as it is now... Just REDUCE THE BEZELS AND KEEP THE HOLY ASPECT RATIO, DAMMIT!! Absolutely NOBODY wants to make the choice of either cropping, stretching or pillar-boxing!! It's time to STOP!! And don't get me even started on the huge notch the iPhone X has!

all other android phones got notch also, removed head phone jack, got swipe gestures. seem's like Apple is leading the way. and the android sheep follow

While black bars look as annoying as they do, this problem is only relevant if you consider photo/video viewing as a primary use case of the phone. Most phones in the last year or two are hardly advertised as mobile p/v viewers. High end OLED phones have more or less the same screen IQ (which often goes beyond what the content is made for), while decoding performance has been more than enough on a small screen for a long time. So there isn't much money to make from "my phone does YouTube better than yours".
If you're a heavy mobile p/v user, the current situation on the market sucks for you. But calling them "brain-dead" when what they do makes business seems to do little to make your life better.
I do agree with the finger gymnastics comment which should apply to the majority of users that have normal human hands.
Edit: Didn't notice this was a November 2017 post.

I hear you…
I hear you man. The new super long, super stretched or super whatever aspect ratios are STUPID :crying: DUMBASS.
I use my 16:9 smartphone a lot in landscape for browsing the internet, and at times it already annoys me the relatively reduced “height”. Some webpages even stick stupid onscreen squatter bars when in landscape, let me show you an example (I use a reduced screen dpi to maximize my screen content, 256dpi from the default 415,5dpi of my device):
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Portrait mode, no bars.
Landscape, big squatter bar which cuts content.
Any time the aspect ratio is increased the screen becomes less flexible. 4:3 or even full square :fingers-crossed: owns LoL. 16:10 is great, can live with 16:9 but anything beyond that is MORONICAL. :silly:
Cheers fellows

I don't care if this thread is old. I agree completely. I'm using an 18:9 phone and I hate it. Everything is too narrow. I use my phone exclusively in landscape except when making calls. The 18:9 gives me black bars or cut off picture on everything. The length makes the keyboard near unmanageable as well. Finger gymnastics like crazy and typos everywhere! Never again. They also need to get rid of the hole punch, notch, dimple idea too. It looks terrible. Try watching full screen video on that. You'll hate life. And I don't even want to think about gaming... I refuse to buy another phone isn't 16:9, or 16:10.

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HTC New Eden Project

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This screen.
1GB+ RAM.
Dual-core CPU with decent graphics performance (if need be, look to suppliers other than Qualcomm) - that screen will need a fair amount of processing clout to back it up.
A big-ass battery.
Nice looking
For me:
I'd like a device where I wouldn't have to touch the screen to scroll. Maybe a reactive sensor built into the case that I could slide my hand and scroll the screen. Not a wheel or buttons, but something integrated into the screen or case. See the red line in the pic.
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too much wasted real estate on your design.
Use the HD2 as a starting point and improve from there.
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Your concept 2/HD3 one is what I'm talking about. Very industrial and sleek. Though for the capacitive keys at the bottom, I think a better design would to get rid of the bottom row, and instead, incorporate a hardware button on the side to toggle the onscreen/virtual buttons (menu, search, back, etc). Of course, having a realistic design is one thing, but for a concept, I think the future will do away with front buttons for a more cleaner look and thus having an effective full size screen from corner to corner with 3-4mm of bezel in between. I mean, looking back 5 years, you have hard keys gradually evolving into soft keys and it's only a natural evolution to have no keys at all. Virtual keys would be the new thing.
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exactly! Though I know it's not for everyone, but if the intention of the idea/concept is to create a high-end smartphone for the future, everything has to be big, sleek and seamless. For instance, god forbid if I say this, but the iphone4 is heading toward that direction. You have a phone that doesn't have odd buldge from the camera or a hump in the back for the gps and whatnot and it's just a wonderful design sans the screen size. Rumor has it that Apple might be getting rid of the round button at the bottom and will probably utilize some sort of switch on the side to toggle the onscreen buttons/menus.
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I think a better design would to get rid of the bottom row, and instead, incorporate a hardware button on the side to toggle the onscreen/virtual buttons (menu, search, back, etc).
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That's something I've pondered about from time to time, except I envisaged a secondary layer to the screen using some form of transparent LCD/OLED tech that the function buttons would appear on, so that they were completely disconnected from the main screen and would still function if, say, an app had frozen, in the way that proper buttons continue to work even if what's happening on screen has started to mess up.
There'd still need to be some hardware buttons other than the power button though, otherwise how would we boot into recover/bootloader etc?
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exactly! Though I know it's not for everyone, but if the intention of the idea/concept is to create a high-end smartphone for the future, everything has to be big, sleek and seamless.
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Well, in that case, can't we do one better than Apple?
Especially if it's just going to be a concept...
Imagine a phone with completely rounded-off edges, kinda like two iPhone 3GSs placed screen-to-screen, only thinner of course.
You could have the screen cover the entire front half of the phone, including the front of the the curved areas. That'd be truly seamless.
Of course, that's just if you're limiting yourself to a semi-conventional design.
Given the potential advances in flexible displays in the next couple of years as well as recent breakthroughs in creating flexible circuitry, future smartphones could be very different indeed...
Well,I for one would like to see two high-quality stereo speakers,probably on top and bottom.That would be a true multimedia phone for me.
One more thing,to help out the gamers,would be something like a small,thin slide-out glass touch sensitive pad,on which the necessary buttons would appear for each game(like joysticks).
What I thought of many times would be the potential of a carbon-fibre-body phone.That,along with a scratch resistant glass(like gorilla glass) would finally make the phone much more sturdy and light.Although I don't know how it would fare with heat...
A nice addition would be a small "air pipe" that would go from top to bottom,with some special membrane that will let air go in and out but not water etc.That would help with the aformentioned heat problems!
Also,if it's not too much,a small projector on the back would be super cool.Although I don't quite place that in the mandatory section.
Other than that,the latest,most powerful hardware would suffice!Along with some new-technology battery to power the whole thing of course!
Maybe I'll come back with more,that's just a tiring days rant!
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What I'd love is a dual-core landscape QWERTY. With a 4.3" high-res screen(SAMOLED+ etc) with a nice 5 row keyboard (nicely risen and spaced) with numbers on the top row, with a strong hinge. To be thin and light too. Have the screen cover most of the phone, so not a huge phone. Xenon flash with a nice camera, with good sensor too. There's a lot of other things I'd want too, just can't think atm haha.
Fuel cell battery? or any bigger battery. I'd rather have a thicker phone with more battery life than a thin phone with standard battery life.
Wireless charging, NFC.
Thunderbolt I/O Integration with faster onboard NAND? (SD cards and generally transferring anything over USB is horridly slow atm.)
HDMI out via a dock or a port on the phone? (I'm sure a dual core cpu would be able to handle 1080p)
15" tablet , 3mm thin , so u can cut a turkey in half wit it if ya dont have a knife on you on thanksgiving
nice disign
JWang158 said:
It would be hard to put components inside a seamless device.
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HTC manages to get them into the Desire HD, Mozart and all the other handsets with the unibody aluminium bodies.
I don't see why this would be any different.
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Well, there'd be a battery cover on the design I suggested as well, so it could be done the same way.
Skellyyy said:
What I'd love is a dual-core landscape QWERTY. With a 4.3" high-res screen(SAMOLED+ etc) with a nice 5 row keyboard (nicely risen and spaced) with numbers on the top row, with a strong hinge. To be thin and light too. Have the screen cover most of the phone, so not a huge phone. Xenon flash with a nice camera, with good sensor too. There's a lot of other things I'd want too, just can't think atm haha.
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Def need a qwerty landscape, sorry I just love the clicky and you can type without watching your fingers for no frame of reference.

Best pocket cam?

Does anyone actually feel like the the MT4g Slide can replace your point & shoot camera?
Mine has. I take lots of photos and since picking up my MT4GS I don't take the point and shoot out with me anymore.
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Bump.... anyone else? For example, I'm going on vaca to California and want to know if it is worth it to buy/bring a small camera.
My digitial camera is a bit older now, it's a kodak model I picked up from circuit city (yea, that should tell ya something if you live in the u.s.)
Even so, my digital camera is a 10 megapixel camera, and I think the ccd in it is better then the one in the phone. The HDR option on the phone makes it compare pretty closely though.
I'm not entirely sure about direct comparison of picture quality between the two yet, but comparing the stock camera app on this phone to my pocket camera - the answer is yes, it can replace my digital camera, for me.
The kodak was still an entry level camera at the time I bought it (around $150 several years ago) but it gives me more adjustment options in manual (program) mode.
Specifically: I can set my iso to 1600 and 3200 whereas the phone only goes up to 800 - and I use this at night to get better pictures in darkness.
A couple other small adjustments my digital camera offers me that the stock camera app doesn't for the phone. But really, this is the kind of nit-picking that says the next step up from the phone is a DSLR, at least for what I have.
The sweep shot option on the phone is many times better the the panoramic option offered on my digital camera, and the phone takes pictures much more quickly then the digital camera does.
The effect settings on the phone are pretty sweet, I can take the picture that way instead of adding it after the fact. Too, the phone will let me make some edits to my pictures using apps I can get (even some free ones that aren't bad.)
I am not sure of the quality being offered by current model digital cameras, but aren't they up to something like 14 megapixels now?
If you're trying to be a professional photographer, then just carrying around a phone as your camera is a joke. From the casual picture taker perspective, the phone is pretty awesome.
I suggest running around with it and snapping a whole mess of pictures where you live now. Take a day, and pretend you are a tourist in your own town. Find your local landmarks, or anything that looks cool in your town and snap pictures of it all.
(make sure to find one cool looking building, one cool looking tree, and snap some pictures of crowds and traffic)
Mess with the different modes and settings, and try to take the same picture multiple times with the different settings.
Come home and put all the pics on your computer, print a few out, and see how they look.
If you are only going to end up with 4x6 and 5x7 pictures that you print out when you're done, the camera is sufficient. If you are trying to make poster sized professional prints - get a DSLR.
From what it sounds like, though, the camera on the phone should be fine for you.
(sorry if this is a bit rambly, i'm still waiting for my coffee to finish brewing after just waking up)
That was very helpful. I don't have the phone and was considering getting it. Anyone else
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here are some pics I've taken with the MT4GS... has completely replaced my P&S cam since I bought it. quality isn't quite as good as most decent P&S cams I've used, but it's close enough that it makes sense not to haul another piece of tech around. overall, I'm impressed.. especially coming from the G2 which had a pretty lackluster camera.
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(apologies for posting massive pictures, tried to size them down a bit)
Pics look good. How would indoor/party photos look?
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Actually indoor photos are what surprise me the most. The low lighting performance is truly quite good for a phone. The only thing is that white balance tends to be a bit slow to kick in for some reason. When indoors or in a dark setting, the image will often start out very red. Point the camera at a white wall or something and the balance will fix itself right away.
Here are some photos taken indoors and/or with low lighting, no post editing done. Photos are lower quality because I'm taking them off of facebook:
Dim Lighting
During Sunset:
This one is pretty well lit but the dynamic range worked out nicely:
I applied one of the phone's stock filters to this one, but it was done in low lighting(just one tabletop lamp on the other side of the room):
This one is in daylight obviously, but its an HDR shot that came out nicely:
BTW, the phone has an "autoenhance" feature which is enabled by default. I prefer to disable it. Basically it sharpens edges and removes noise, but imo it makes the image lose some of it's fidelity at higher zooms. I therefore prefer to turn off the feature. I enjoy doing post-work on my photos so I'd rather reduce noise in Photoshop if I need to (rarely).
Oh, and sorry for the double-post, but I will again re-emphasize turning off autoenhance unless you're taking photos in a really dark area and/or are tremendously averse to noise artifacts(which are still pretty minimal in most cases). While certainly it's no DSLR, nowhere near, it actually can replace most point and shoots and is the best phone camera you're going to find outside of the Nokia N8. Some say the Galaxy SII is just as good but I strongly disagree. Color fidelity is what matters the most to me in a portable camera(alongside decent sharpness) and this phone excels in that area imo. Besides, at the end of the day, it's the photographer that matters. Not to say you need to be a photographer, but use whatever light you have available smartly and you might be surprised with your results.
Gonna post a few more shots for fun. These are all completely unedited:
Panorama:
Hydrant:
And me:
Sorry I don't take that many pictures of people lol, but they look good and the flash does a good job of illuminating without being harsh.
Also, as a general tip, if you actually want your pictures to look better than average, you can have a little fun in photoshop or GIMP. I am unfortunately nowhere near being able to afford a DSLR at the moment, so I tend to try to compensate with some post work with image editors. I'd much rather do these images the "real" way(and keen eyes can see the artificial details), but this camera is good enough to get some nice post-editing work for artistic effect.
The following have been edited with a lens blur filters, grain addition, and/or color correction:
Me again:
Old-Camera Style Close-Up:
My Sister:
Nice Walk:
So yea, I'm by no means a "real" photographer, but I enjoy putting a bit more effort into my photos than the average person, giving them a bit of my touch that goes further than, like, instagram. Put some thought into your shots, and you'll see the MT4GS will be a powerful tool
Seriously, I love this camera.
This has all been very helpful. Has anyone tried it in a party environment or really relied on it during vacation? Have you had any truly BAD results?

To PenTile or not to Pentile? That's the resolution

I am sick of reading biased news and comments about the Pentile screens,
some say "don't care" and some say "it's crap", with or without evidence.
This "oppinions" war has become more evident after the internets learned about the Nexus's "sinful" PenTile screen
I just found this very interesting and objective article and wanted to share it with all of you:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...D---is-the-PenTile-matrix-bad-for-you_id23134
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Hope you find it useful a I did.
The NOTE screen sure is green.
I don't see such a big deal in real world usage.
But I'm not one of those people with microscopic eyes.
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I don't see such a big deal in real world usage.
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Exactly. It's pretty much placebo. The only difference I've seen over time is in lighting. Used to be you only saw a perfect pic when looking at the screen from exactly one point, any tiny deviation would be hugely noticeable. Now that that's gone, it's all the same. Unless the resolution is really low, like 480x320, then you notice the grid. Beyond that, like I said, it's all the same.
Definitely not placebo. I had issues before knowing exactly what was different with the screen. I tried but could not get over the sense that the screen was crawling even with no interaction. Very disconcerting and after a few minutes use, definite eye fatigue. I could not do my usual news/blog reading on the train every day.
I know folks that have no issues with pentile so it's definitely not a universally bad thing. But it's a troubling trend to me because it significantly limits my options.
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i've had a Samsung S8500 with Super Amoled PenTile screen (800x480), 3.3" then i bought my Desire S with the same nominal resolution on a 3.7" screen non-PenTile...the difference is clear even if the dpi is lower on Desire S, nothing shattering but without PenTile images are sharper
Some people see it and some don't. I noticed the "screen door" effect immediately on the Photon. I've heard that if you turn down the brightness it will lessen the effect but makes it harder to see the screen in sunlight. Most just keep auto brightness on and deal with it.
It's fine, and now with 300+ DPI phones, you cant even tell it's using PenTile
-Nexus S owner
xManMythLegend said:
The NOTE screen sure is green.
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That's because it's a macro shot of a screen made up of 50% green sub-pixels. It will look white to the naked eye.
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Some people see it and some don't. I noticed the "screen door" effect immediately on the Photon. I've heard that if you turn down the brightness it will lessen the effect but makes it harder to see the screen in sunlight. Most just keep auto brightness on and deal with it.
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Motorola uses RGBW PenTile instead of the AMOLED's RGBG. It's really not the PenTile matrix at fault there - it's their use of it in a way too-large screen, combined with aggressive power-saving that causes off-colors and pattern visibility.
It's actually a bit different to the issues some have with RGBG. RGBG is actually pretty close to RGB stripe, but it relies on the make-up of the human eye. A relatively small number of people have a certain mutation that means their eyes don't exactly work the correct way for RGBG PenTile to be effective.
At the Galaxy Note and Galaxy Nexus' far higher pixel densities, the RGBG PenTile effect shouldn't even be visible to the naked eye any more. How it will affect those people who actually have a legitimate problem viewing it, we won't know until these screens actually reach the end-users.
To be honest I can't tell the difference with screens between my sgs 2 and captivate. Maybe my eyes aren't as good anymore because I regularly do art...
There is no noticeable difference between the two technologies that will be noticeable to the naked eye in normal circumstances. Period.
it really boils down to the user's perception of clarity of the screen.
but as long as it responds quickly that would be enough
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There is no noticeable difference between the two technologies that will be noticeable to the naked eye in normal circumstances. Period.
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What a load of bollocks. There's a huge difference - period.
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What a load of bollocks. There's a huge difference - period.
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You might as well want to elaborate to back yourself.
It’s actually next to impossible to see the dotiness or graininess of the on-screen image, on PenTile smartphones.
This is why i am excited to see LG's true HD 720p AH-IPS display found on the optimus LTE(s. Korea only). Reports and reviews are coming in that it is the best display on all mobile phone screen technology. Uses less power than super amoled and has crisper and sharper colors than the retina.
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I haven't seen any review about that phone. However, I hope that these words don't come from LG Marketing team, which wrote in their product package manual that less gamut on Nova screen (67%) is better than SuperAMOLED's 107%.
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It’s actually next to impossible to see the dotiness or graininess of the on-screen image, on PenTile smartphones.
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No its not. If your eyesight is still in good condition you can notice the wierd effects like checkerboard, blue/red dots in fonts and jaggy edges. This is coming from using Galaxy S, but with Galaxy Note and Nexus Primes higher pixel densities I doubt theres going to be a big issue.
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You might as well want to elaborate to back yourself.
It’s actually next to impossible to see the dotiness or graininess of the on-screen image, on PenTile smartphones.
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That depends an awful lot on exactly what you're looking at. With text, I have yet to try a pentile where the drawbacks weren't painfully obvious - and for me it does turn into pain in the form of eye strain and a headache if I keep at it.
With pictures it is sometimes obvious depending on subject. Moving pictures I rarely notice it but still develop eye strain after a while.
If you can't see it, you can't. Perhaps akin to color blindness. But to flat out claim it's next to impossible to see when it's actually impossible not to see for some is disingenuous. I'm not sure what kind of elaboration you want to convince you we're not just making stuff up as I can't easily show you what I see.
99% of my phone use is text. No games,rarely movies or pictures. Pentile displays I've tried all fail to be invisible for me so for now, they remove a lot of devices from consideration. I still try them just in case.
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Does the og EVO have pentile idle if it does if it does and the EVO 3d doesn't I want to compare to see otherwise I would Like to look at a lcd non pentile vs a pentile not a lcd vs a amoled. I think that's a unfair judgement or if someone can tell me a phone that has a pentile amoled screen that's new I know the sgsii isn't I'm just curious to compare. This is like can one see the diff between 720p or 1080p. Some people say they look the same and iv had some say they don't see the hype in bluray which I find crazy. So before I throw my thoughts in is like to compare.
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Call me crazy, but I could never let the type of screen determine my cell phone purchase...

Disadvantages of Galaxy S5 and request for future phones

Samsung please make in the future smartphones:
OIS
Remove modulation at medium and low brightness, as it did in the Fly IQ444 Diamond 2 Quattro, Motorola Razr HD (XT925) and LG G Flex
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Remove Dynamic and Standard modes. These modes are as bone that samsung threw for some reviewers and haters. Benefit from them is no, only cons. Because at testers gray is blue, red is orange, they specially put this modes, they have very cold tone (6500-6700K - Cinema and pro photo mode, 7500-8000K - Dynamic and Standard). Anyway all image are designed for SRGB standard, and enhanced range is color distortion, red hues (at normal color temperature) and oversaturation.
Сomplete yet color gamut to 100% SRGB, the unnecessary 6-7% still sometimes make themselves known. (but 106% instead of 122% in S4 is a good job).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7PP8mgv0eCY#t=798 (This is Cinema Mode)
Metal Body (antennas should be behind the plastic, glass or other material, but not metal, so did HTC, Apple and Sony, otherwise the connection will be very bad).
Thanks
It would be ideal. Isocell, improved super amoled (brightness, viewing angles, color reproduction in cinema and pro photo mode, anti-glare), waterproof, interface speed and battery life is awesome.
Who are close to the developers of samsung, please show them this post
I'd think there are many more important issues with phones nowadays than screen calibration. If you want to edit photos, get a good monitor and calibrate it. If you want to watch movies, get a 65" plasma or OLED and stop complaining about stuff that has little relevance in smartphones.
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I'd think there are many more important issues with phones nowadays than screen calibration. If you want to edit photos, get a good monitor and calibrate it. If you want to watch movies, get a 65" plasma or OLED and stop complaining about stuff that has little relevance in smartphones.
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It is much more important than unnecessary megapixels, megahertz, cores and ppi's.
It's about quality of display, which can be much better,
about the impact on eyes and eye fatigue,
about shooting in low light,
about solid and feeling that you hold the thing for ages
about "vulnerabilities", which can fault reviewers and haters
sonyfan12 said:
It is much more important than unnecessary megapixels, megahertz, cores and ppi's.
It's about quality of display, which can be much better,
about the impact on eyes and eye fatigue,
about shooting in low light,
about solid and feeling that you hold the thing for ages
about "vulnerabilities", which can fault reviewers and haters
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I prefer a fast phone with a perfect screen, than a slow phone with a good screen.
We already have good screens and if Samsung devotes loads of hours to making the screen much better, they will either need to make the phone super expensive to pay for those extra hours or they will have to cut corners in other areas to save money.
The law of diminishing returns - you spend 10% of time to achieve 90% of what you want and 90% for the rest 10%.
Less screen modes? More accurate? It will be a cold day in hell when Samsung stops emphasizing the saturated colors that only come from AMOLED. There's a reason why they use it on all flagships.
Lots of people prefer that saturated profile.
I would be always against taking choice away from customer.
Cinema is quite good Btw. Not perfect but it's close to accurate.
First thing I did when I bought this phone was changing the screen mode. That's Android strength: let me choose.
OIS: yes please.
Metal body: only if it's not form over function.
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drakester09 said:
Less screen modes? More accurate? It will be a cold day in hell when Samsung stops emphasizing the saturated colors that only come from AMOLED. There's a reason why they use it on all flagships.
Lots of people prefer that saturated profile.
I would be always against taking choice away from customer.
Cinema is quite good Btw. Not perfect but it's close to accurate.
First thing I did when I bought this phone was changing the screen mode. That's Android strength: let me choose.
OIS: yes please.
Metal body: only if it's not form over function.
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Gotta agree with this post.
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Szadzik said:
I prefer a fast phone with a perfect screen, than a slow phone with a good screen.
We already have good screens and if Samsung devotes loads of hours to making the screen much better, they will either need to make the phone super expensive to pay for those extra hours or they will have to cut corners in other areas to save money.
The law of diminishing returns - you spend 10% of time to achieve 90% of what you want and 90% for the rest 10%.
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To the speed these improvements have absolutely no affected. And make them easy as shelling pears
drakester09 said:
Less screen modes? More accurate? It will be a cold day in hell when Samsung stops emphasizing the saturated colors that only come from AMOLED. There's a reason why they use it on all flagships.
Lots of people prefer that saturated profile.
I would be always against taking choice away from customer.
Cinema is quite good Btw. Not perfect but it's close to accurate.
First thing I did when I bought this phone was changing the screen mode. That's Android strength: let me choose.
OIS: yes please.
Metal body: only if it's not form over function.
Sent from my SM-G900H using Tapatalk
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The main advantages of amoled is not oversaturation and distortion. The main advantages is ideal black color, ideal contrast, ideal viewing angle, ideal response speed, all much better than lcd
That's true, S5 doesn't look like a 2014 flagship.
bfg425 said:
That's true, S5 doesn't look like a 2014 flagship.
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Then don't buy it and you're all good. :thumbup:
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Then don't buy it and you're all good. :thumbup:
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+1
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Is QHD is the last resolution upgrade for smartphones

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Since 2010 and every few months there is a new smartphone display resolution, and with it come the discussions of the usefulness of these extra pixels, the law of diminishing returns, whether the human eye can tell the difference, and the impact in the GPU and battery life.
Phone makers keep pushing the resolution more and more, and to be a honest i am huge advocate of increasing the resolution.
But now since we reached 500+ ppi and QHD resolution, do you think this is the last upgrade or are we going to see 1800 x 3200 resolution in a smartphone in 2015/2016, maybe even 4K by 2018.
To be honest, the idea of 4K phone display is tempting, and in a 5" phone, that's will give you 881 PPI, that's about 3 times of the pixel density of what claimed to be the limit of the human eye for a device held 10 to 12 inches from the eye ).
For me personally i doubt that the 300 PPI is the human eye limit (for a device held 10 to 12 inches from the eye), as -many before- me pointed out, and as long as i can tell the difference (i am able to tell 1080p from 720p , and also 1440p from 1080p) i am all for it.
What do you guys think the industry is going, is the resolution war will continue, or is QHD is the last upgrade at least for a while.
Display resolution milestones in smartphones (please correct me if i have made any mistakes):
2004: 320x320=~0.1MP (Palm Treo 650)
2005: 640x480=~0.3MP (O2 XDA Exec a.k.a Qtek 9000 , i-mate JASJAR and T-Mobile MDA IV)
2007: 480x800=~0.4MP (Toshiba Portege G900)
2010: 640x960=~0.6MP (Apple iPhone 4)
2011: 800x1280=~1MP (Galaxy Note)
2012: 1080x1920=~2MP (HTC DROID DNA)
2014: 1440x2560=~3.7MP (Oppo Find 7)
Pixel density milestones in smartphones (please correct me if i have made any mistakes):
2007: 300+ ppi (Toshiba Portege G900)
2010: 320+ ppi (iPhone 4)
2011: 340+ ppi (HTC Rezound)
2012: 440+ ppi (HTC DROID DNA)
2013: 460+ ppi (HTC One)
2014: 530+ ppi (Oppo Find 7)
2014: 570+ ppi (Samsung Galaxy S5 LTE-A)
Manufacturers need to stop worrying about resolution and bragging about numbers, and focus more on color reproduction, brightness, efficiency, etc. Sony's getting it right (allegedly - we'll see) with the Z3. Bright, accurate, and efficient.
it will never stop as per me
i work as animator and if you ask me. this development of getting bigger sizes will never stop. qhd, amoled , UHD they all are the return of lakhs hour of work by the scientists. inventions are always going to come. what you asked is something like " did write brothers ever imagoned that the technology they develop that time will ever cross the speed of sound", that time it seems impossible. well here is the same concept . you don't know what will happen in future. development pace is so rapid today. nobody knows what tomorrow hold. now everything seems possible and this hunger for getting higher screen resolutions will never stop. clarity is going to clear. The human eye can see 7,000,000 colors. Some of these are eyesores. Certain colors and color relationships can be eye irritants, cause headaches, and wreak havoc with human vision. Other colors and color combinations are soothing.so its basically how far scientists can see. so this war will keep on continue forever. it will never going to stop.. the human thrust will always keep on for pushing themselves to infinity.
Planterz said:
Manufacturers need to stop worrying about resolution and bragging about numbers, and focus more on color reproduction, brightness, efficiency, etc. Sony's getting it right (allegedly - we'll see) with the Z3. Bright, accurate, and efficient.
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This so much. It extends to more than just phones. Megapixels, resolution, all that stuff. Bragging bigger numbers doesn't mean jack if the camera quality is crap and can't capture an image faithfully. Sick of seeing crap about 4k and 60fps and all that. Numbers make not a better camera.
Today's QHD is tomorrow's 360p. Resolution increments will not stop for a while.
But I agree with @Planterz, we need to focus on image and screen quality. Brightness, color reproduction, etc. are soo important. But it's hard to sell that to the general public when everyone else is selling numbers. Especially for Android where there's so much fragmentation and competition. The baseline for judging at this point is essentially specs.

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