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Has anyone seen a microUSB dock/charger/headset that has audio capability as well as charging the phone? What I'd like is to play music from, have headset controls from, and charge the phone all from the microUSB port on the bottom... or is this what car docks are supposed to do?
The way my car is, it's annoying to plug in the charger on the bottom AND the line out on the top - if there's a headset/adapter type thing, I figure I'll buy one of those and build my own car dock, and potentially speaker dock for the indoors.
OR: Just a microUSB headset - maybe I could add charger wires to it...
Month-long bump: I've realized that all I want right now is a microUSB headset, like for the older phones with no headphone jack. Obviously they don't make these for the G2x; has anyone confirmed another LG headset that works with this phone?
I honestly dont know if anything like that exists but I dont think so because of several reasons. Just a few that come to mind I'm not sure if the kernel driver supports it even if it could; the power running parallel to the audio probably would sound terrible; the USB would probably have to be used with a USB (female) to micro-USB (male) adapter since if you were to find it, it would probably be for PC so needed to be converted further adding to the reduction in sound quality.
Silly question.... why not just use Bluetooth and then usb to charge/data only??
Not a silly question at all. I don't feel like paying for a bluetooth adapter but also, because I've had bad luck with them in the past, as far as sound quality goes; I wasn't very impressed. Are there any good/reasonably priced bluetooth adapters that you've had luck with?
The blackberry audio gateway has been reliable for me and sounds decent.
Hmm maybe... not really a fan of having to plug that in, in addition to my stereo. I'll keep it in mind. Any others?
Hello everyone. I bought a Digital Innovations universal android speaker dock. It was highly recommended by a friend and has great reviews online. When I got it the connection to my One X was spotty at best. When I would plug in the 3.5mm jack into my phone, sometimes my phone would recognize that a headphone cable was plugged in and other times it would not. I thought maybe it was the dock itself so I had it replaced. I got the new one today it does the same thing, except that I can not get the phone to recognize that the jack is plugged in at all.
I decided that I would try other devices. I plugged in an MP3 player, and it worked fine. I tried a second MP3 player and that worked too. Finally I tried an iPhone and that too worked. I cant figure out why my One X will not recognize that a headphone cable has been plugged in. If I use standard headphones the phone recognizes them immediately. Does anyone have any idea why this might be happening and what I can do about it?
This is the dock I got: http://www.digitalinnovations.com/universal-speaker-dock-for-android.html
Hi there, I'm posting from Sonr, we designed the dock you are using. This is the first time I've seen that problem. The closest I've seen was with a Sony Ericson phone that had a non standard wiring pattern on the plug, but based on what you are saying, standard headphones work. Now, just to clarify, when you say headphones, you mean like mp3 player headphones, not a phone headset, the distinction being that the headset has a built in mic. Also, when you say "standard headphones" do you mean ones that came with the phone or ones that came from another vendor (and not specifically designed for the one X).
As you can probably tell, I'm trying to isolate if the headphone jack configuration is non standard physically (like the Sony Ericson phone) or if the issue is something else.
Thanks for the response. I've now used three different types of headphones/headsets. Two were standard headphones and one was a phone headset. All three worked fine on my HTC One X.
I did find work around to get the dock to worl, but it will not work with the Sonr app. The solution was to go and buy a 3.5mm stereo plug extension. I connect the dock to that and the other end to my phone. I can now play audio from my phone through the dock, but the Sonr app will not find my phone. It's a start and I'm getting closer but I would love to be able to use the remote and built in buttons.
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Ugh. I'm really sorry we didn't catch this in testing. We have plenty of other HTC phones, but not this one. It sounds like we need to acquire one. Based on what you're saying, this phone has another non standard headphone configuration, and we need an adapter for it. If you are game for helping us debug this, contact me directly at [email protected] com and I'll get you some adapters to test. Again, I apologize for the trouble.
I would gladly help out, especially if it means the possibility of me using my dock to its full capabilities. I just sent you an email and look forward to hearing back from you.
I'm hoping that with the new USB Type-C connector and Power Delivery 2.0, someone will finally make my ideal type of DAC for phone use in the car:
USB input for powering DAC from cigarette lighter adapter (2.1A)
USB input/output for connection to Type-C jack on phone - phone sends digital audio to DAC, and phone simultaneously charges at (relatively) high power thanks to Power Delivery 2.0
3.5mm audio line out - connect to car AUX input
Currently the DACs I find that come closest to meeting this are the FiiO E18 and the Creative Labs E5, but both add a lot of expense and complexity in trying to be everything to everyone (internal battery for portable use, headphone amp with volume control, etc.). Reviews also state that using them with a phone while also charging the phone can be very touchy.
Is anyone else looking for something like this, or have ideas about where it can already be found? I'm not averse to using a portable DAC in the car, but I want the phone charging to be pretty bulletproof. :good:
I use this with my Nexus 5 and a USB OTG Host cable. I have a Nexus 6P on the way, and I'm hoping it will still work with a just a micro-USB to USB-C adapter for the Nexus 6P. It works very well now, with the downside that the phone doesn't charge when used this way . I read that that was a hardware limitation in the Nexus 5. Maybe the Nexus 6P will charge while sending USB audio, I don't know.
DAC:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036VO4X4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
USB HOST CABLE:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C452XFO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
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I don't know of a product that matches what you described. I have the OPPO HA-2, but in terms of inputs and functionality, it's much the same as the SoundBlaster and FIIO DACs. I don't see how you can charge your phone at the same time you USB output the audio to one of these devices. Using the analog jacks defeats the purpose.
While I think the setup you described would be good, I think we are probably a year or two away from anything like it. I've noticed a trend in the audiophile world of slow adoption of new things such as USB Type-C. If the market proves me wrong, I'm OK with that! I just don't have high expectations for something like this anytime soon.
Also, I think a better alternative would be an aftermarket deck for your car with a USB input for simultaneous charging / USB audio connectivity straight to the sound system. Skip the external DAC and analog headphone jacks all together. Maybe something with Android Auto on it. Again, adoption of Type-C is probably going to be very slow in this product category, but that would be something I'd like to see!
Besides, audio always seems to limited by the weakest link in the chain. Factory car speakers are just terrible, although I'll admit they've gotten better in the last 4 or 5 years. Why go through the pains of setting up an extravagant DAC setup when the speakers won't make it sound any better? Unless you DO have better speakers, in which case, never mind.
May I ask why the 3.5mm analog out from the phone is not sufficient if your car already has an analog input? What is this buying you?
I have an old 2005 Acura TL with a kickass stereo (DVD-A), but no external inputs. I just installed a Grom Audio AND2 that gives me USB stick, Android and a 3.5mm Analog capability. Mine is running in Satellite Radio Emulation mode to give me Song, Album and Artist info in the display.
As newbie, I can not be helpful and add a link but you can Google Grom Audio and click the compare kits link.
The holy grail for me is automotive systems that will take USB or SD cards and actually have as much functionality as a free app on the play store! Most automotive entertainment system developers are so clueless, they should have their balls crushed in a vice and then be fired! The whole naming audio files "01-Artist-Album-Title" came about because automotive systems won't read metadata tags and support playlists.
Techno Trousers said:
I'm hoping that with the new USB Type-C connector and Power Delivery 2.0, someone will finally make my ideal type of DAC for phone use in the car:
USB input for powering DAC from cigarette lighter adapter (2.1A)
USB input/output for connection to Type-C jack on phone - phone sends digital audio to DAC, and phone simultaneously charges at (relatively) high power thanks to Power Delivery 2.0
3.5mm audio line out - connect to car AUX input
Currently the DACs I find that come closest to meeting this are the FiiO E18 and the Creative Labs E5, but both add a lot of expense and complexity in trying to be everything to everyone (internal battery for portable use, headphone amp with volume control, etc.). Reviews also state that using them with a phone while also charging the phone can be very touchy.
Is anyone else looking for something like this, or have ideas about where it can already be found? I'm not averse to using a portable DAC in the car, but I want the phone charging to be pretty bulletproof. :good:
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May I ask why the 3.5mm analog out from the phone is not sufficient if your car already has an analog input? What is this buying you?
I have an old 2005 Acura TL with a kickass stereo (DVD-A), but no external inputs. I just installed a Grom Audio AND2 that gives me USB stick, Android and a 3.5mm Analog capability. Mine is running in Satellite Radio Emulation mode to give me Song, Album and Artist info in the display.
As newbie, I can not be helpful and add a link but you can Google Grom Audio and click the compare kits link.
The holy grail for me is automotive systems that will take USB or SD cards and actually have as much functionality as a free app on the play store! Most automotive entertainment system developers are so clueless, they should have their balls crushed in a vice and then be fired! The whole naming audio files "01-Artist-Album-Title" came about because automotive systems won't read metadata tags and support playlists.
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I have a 05 TL in Blue with the tan interior and the GPS.
My dad got the 12 TL and the seats are not as comfortable
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gwertheim said:
I have a 05 TL in Blue with the tan interior and the GPS.
My dad got the 12 TL and the seats are not as comfortable
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My 05 TL is also Navy Blue with British Tan leather. Now it has a Grom Audio and I am a fairly happy camper. I used to burn DVD-A discs with about 7 CDs on each and use the "Group" feature. So the 6 disc changer gave me about 42 CDs. BTW, I used Cirlinca DVD-Solo to make and burn DVD Audio Disks.
dwswager said:
My 05 TL is also Navy Blue with British Tan leather. Now it has a Grom Audio and I am a fairly happy camper. I used to burn DVD-A discs with about 7 CDs on each and use the "Group" feature. So the 6 disc changer gave me about 42 CDs. BTW, I used Cirlinca DVD-Solo to make and burn DVD Audio Disks.
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We have the exact same car
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Hi, everyone. Thanks so much for the responses, I really appreciate it. To answer some questions and hopefully clarify things:
Why do this? In my 2007 Honda Civic, I upgraded the speakers just after I bought the car (Boston Acoustics) but left the head unit alone, to get maximum sound quality bang for my buck. I currently have a Galaxy S4, and can take advantage of analog audio out via USB with a special iBolt cable (It operates very similarly to the old 30-pin iPod to analog out cables, if you can picture that).
Via experimentation, I've found that increasing order of sound quality is:
Connection from headphone output to AUX in
Connection from USB analog audio out to AUX in (via iBolt cable)
USB digital out over OTG cable to external DAC, DAC AUX out to car AUX in
Option 3 is far and away the best sound quality. It's a very noticeable difference--as good as playing a CD in the head unit. I will use this option with the Nexus 6P no matter what, but I'd like to be able to charge the phone at the same time, especially on long road trips while using navigation and playing audio. Both the USB Power Delivery specification 2.0 and Android Marshmallow make reference to being able to charge USB host devices, so the missing link is what the best DAC would be to achieve that. It may be that the phone itself will be able to decide whether to draw or output power, which would be ideal if the DAC recognizes and respects that choice.
As for the question about why not get a new head unit? This is an older car, and it's frankly not worth the expense and effort to do that at this time. I'll definitely be looking for Android Auto as a feature in any new car I consider down the road, however.
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Connection from headphone output to AUX in
Connection from USB analog audio out to AUX in (via iBolt cable)
USB digital out over OTG cable to external DAC, DAC AUX out to car AUX in
Option 3 is far and away the best sound quality. It's a very noticeable difference--as good as playing a CD in the head unit. I will use this option with the Nexus 6P no matter what, but I'd like to be able to charge the phone at the same time, especially on long road trips while using navigation and playing audio. Both the USB Power Delivery specification 2.0 and Android Marshmallow make reference to being able to charge USB host devices, so the missing link is what the best DAC would be to achieve that. It may be that the phone itself will be able to decide whether to draw or output power, which would be ideal if the DAC recognizes and respects that choice.
As for the question about why not get a new head unit? This is an older car, and it's frankly not worth the expense and effort to do that at this time. I'll definitely be looking for Android Auto as a feature in any new car I consider down the road, however.
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The GROM kit I bought allows me to play music from USB stick, connect the phone via USB and drive it from the car interface, and aux in. The USB3 kit allows you to add a Bluetooth. I prefer the music on the USB stick. Better connecting a $5 stick than a $500 phone.
The 6P is not USB-PD compliant in that it does not support the PD profiles. 15W (5V/3A) is not a PD spec. It is a Type C spec. Supposedly it uses the control channel in the type C cable/connector but no one knows how far it goes. Some suggest that it will allow reversing power flow. It should allow both data flow and power flow, but it is not a full implementation of USB-PD and is still only USB 2.0 compliant. It should allow charging while connected as long as the host it is plugged into will provide power. At what rate is the big question. Most assume it will drop to legacy 5V 1.5A.
Thanks, dwswager, that's good info. I have a Grom Audio unit in my wife's Mazda, which lacks an AUX in. I'm not 100% happy with it because it tends to lose the ability to get digital audio from the phone, and she needs to reload a config file from a USB stick to reenable that.
I do tend to think that all of this will get worked out in the end. I'm a bit of an edge case, I admit. I do have some good stopgaps now, at least for the non-charging case. That Turtle Beach mini DAC is quite intriguing at only $20. At that price it's worth taking a chance.
I hope we can keep this thread alive as we start to discover what works and what doesn't. November can't get here soon enough!
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Thanks, dwswager, that's good info. I have a Grom Audio unit in my wife's Mazda, which lacks an AUX in. I'm not 100% happy with it because it tends to lose the ability to get digital audio from the phone, and she needs to reload a config file from a USB stick to reenable that.
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Assume you have spoken to GROM. Also will assume you flashed the latest firmware update to your wife's unit. The downside on the AUX input is that it uses a proprietary DIN-4 connector and the cable they supply has a male 3.5mm end. So if you want to mount a female 3.5mm jack in the dash you have to use an extra F/F adapter because the jacks are all wired with 3.5mm male ends. They also make an aux cable with both 3.5 and USB female so you can charge and output analog audio at the same time. You also get standard 5V 1.5A via the USB port in the AND2, USB3 and the ipod only number.
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Techno Trousers said:
Thanks, dwswager, that's good info. I have a Grom Audio unit in my wife's Mazda, which lacks an AUX in. I'm not 100% happy with it because it tends to lose the ability to get digital audio from the phone, and she needs to reload a config file from a USB stick to reenable that.
I do tend to think that all of this will get worked out in the end. I'm a bit of an edge case, I admit. I do have some good stopgaps now, at least for the non-charging case. That Turtle Beach mini DAC is quite intriguing at only $20. At that price it's worth taking a chance.
I hope we can keep this thread alive as we start to discover what works and what doesn't. November can't get here soon enough!
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In terms of audio quality, the Turtle Beach DAC is a serious improvement over just using the 1/8 in. out of the phone. I will say that the Bass response is HUGE coming out of the Turtle Beach, so I usually eq the bass down a couple notches on the car stereo. That said, it really is an amazing improvement in sound quality for very little investment. (I'm a musician, so I tend to fixate on these things.)
By the way, I bought this cable to extend the reach of my OTG / Host cable,
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HAOKCE8?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
It's interesting that the seller says USB OTG cables do not support charging.
"This cable is what is known as an OTG, or On-The-Go cable. USB On-The-Go is a specification that allows USB devices such as digital audio players or mobile phones to act as a host, allowing other USB devices like a USB flash drive, digital camera, mouse, or keyboard to be attached to them. These cables do not support charging or syncing of devices. "
bump.
Has anyone found a portable solution to charge phone and offload digital audio to a DAC?
I'm happy to say that the phone works great with my Sony UDA-1 dac/amp (both audio and charging), but it runs off of mains voltage.
I'd even be happy with any single cord solution for simultaneous charging and audio output.
Alright, lemme clear some stuff up here.
For most phones, yes a USB DAC provides better quality than what comes out of the headphone jack and also more volume (doubters can just live on in ignorant bliss :good
On my LG G2, at least, the OTG Y-cable linked earlied charged the phone (although it didn't actually seem to indicate it was charging) and worked with the DAC at the same time
The same cable, when converted from micro USB to USB C and used with the 6P, seems to only be providing charging, the DAC is not working
I will see if I can find anything in the logs or whether there's anything else I can do, maybe bypassing the Y-cable to see if the DAC works at all with the 6P.
Yeeesss yes please, if you or anyone else happens to get a DAC working with the Nexus 6P, please let us all know. I love my 6P, but I definitely miss my setup with my OnePlus One + USB DAC to car AUX...
Is anyone else noticing that audio is downsampled to mono when using Nexus 6p + USB DAC?
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Is anyone else noticing that audio is downsampled to mono when using Nexus 6p + USB DAC?
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No, not at all.
There's also noticeably less noise through the DAC compared to my old Galaxy Note 3.
Which DAC are you using?
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No, not at all.
There's also noticeably less noise through the DAC compared to my old Galaxy Note 3.
Which DAC are you using?
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this
http://www.amazon.com/Turtle-Beach-Advantage-Digital-Adapter/dp/B0036VO4X4
it worked fine with my nexus 5.
what are you using?
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Bri81 said:
No, not at all.
There's also noticeably less noise through the DAC compared to my old Galaxy Note 3.
Which DAC are you using?
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also, I installed the trial version of USB Audio Player Pro , and I was able to get stereo sound (though limited to the interface of that app and only local files). So there is something really weird happening software wise . . .
Well I tried a USB C to A converter, and my DAC is working fine with the 6P with that. But no charging at the same time, of course.
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Adapter-Chromebook-MacBook-Compatible/dp/B00WJSPWRM/
Zorloo is making their earbuds for type C soon. They have built in dacs.
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My issue
Hi everyone, I have a Nexus 6P and want to route my audio through a USB type C converter to 3.5mm headphone Jack. I have purchased one online, but it doesn't seem to be working. I have seen that the Moto Z has this adapter and I assumed one I found online would be compatible with my 6P. The reason I want to do this is because I prefer for the AUX jack to come out the bottom of my phone.
What I have tired
Changed 'Select USB Configuration' to all the different options and tried playing music.
Tried 'audio routing' apps from the app store
What I would like to know
Is this because I need to change a setting in my phone to route music out of the USB C?
Do I need to get some kind of DAC to allow support for this?
Has anyone else tried this with their phone?
Thanks
broj0nes
Subscribed. Interested in the solution.
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If you don't mind my asking, why bother?
eregev said:
If you don't mind my asking, why bother?
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One reason is that to me it makes more sense to put your phone upside down into you pocket. I've always done this at least. So when listening to music I have to put it the other way round. I have also heard the USB C port offers better sound quality.
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One reason is that to me it makes more sense to put your phone upside down into you pocket. I've always done this at least. So when listening to music I have to put it the other way round. I have also heard the USB C port offers better sound quality.
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Re:sound quality, you'd possibly see a quality increase if you use an external Digital to Analogue Converter or fully usb-c headphones. BUT, if you're using a little dongle (if it's possible), then the phone is still managing the analogue conversion and, thus, a very similar quality of audio output. Now I don't know of the 6p's ability to pipe it straight out iPhone 7 style through a dongle, but short of buying a DAC and going whole-hog on an audio upgrade, I'd just flip your phone the other way in your pocket and go the standard route.
Just my $.02
I have been looking for a solution to this too and I seem to have found one. I poked around on Amazon and I think I finally found adapters that work, here's the link https://goo.gl/QT2ith This the only one with positive reviews so when it comes in on the 30th I'll let all of you know.
sgandy2989 said:
I have been looking for a solution to this too and I seem to have found one. I poked around on Amazon and I think I finally found adapters that work, here's the link https://goo.gl/QT2ith This the only one with positive reviews so when it comes in on the 30th I'll let all of you know.
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Looks quite similar to the one that I got. Hopefully it works for you! Let me know how it goes
I read recently that the current implementation of audio over USB-C isn't very efficient or battery friendly. There's a new spec being ratified to provide audio like the iphone can. Hopefully that's a firmware change and not a hardware one.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/17/12519936/intel-usb-type-c-headphone-jack-replacement-idf-2016
I don't think it's possible on the 6P, not without using a USB DAC anyway.
As far as I'm aware, the adapter you have is for a USB 3/3.1 interface. While the 6P has USB-C it is USB 2.
I'm able to get audio out of my USB C port, but it's with a USB headset. Haven't tried it with a 3.5mm headphone adapter, but havd no reason to try it either.
This is weird. Because i have a pair of Sennheiser Urbanites (Wireless edition), and i can use bluetooth, aux, and usb (like for a computer) audio. I once tried to turn off the headsets (bluetooth off, aux and usb still works if connected), and turned off bluetooth on my phone. Then i used my USB type C to USB type A Female adapter (from the google store), and connected the usb-cable from the headsets into the type c adapter. it did output audio through the usb-cable.
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This is weird. Because i have a pair of Sennheiser Urbanites (Wireless edition), and i can use bluetooth, aux, and usb (like for a computer) audio. I once tried to turn off the headsets (bluetooth off, aux and usb still works if connected), and turned off bluetooth on my phone. Then i used my USB type C to USB type A Female adapter (from the google store), and connected the usb-cable from the headsets into the type c adapter. it did output audio through the usb-cable.
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Bluetooth headphones usually have their own DAC, so the audio for all but the Aux is still being sent through the DAC first, which is supported by older USB standards.
The new USB 3.1 Audio standard can pass through analogue audio from the internal DAC, which is what I believe phones such as the Moto Z utilise. Otherwise the adapter would require it's own DAC, which would make it far larger and more expensive.
Not sure if you will find a good solution at the moment since they just created a standard for audio over usb c http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160927006252/en/USB-IF-Announces-USB-Audio-Device-Class-3.0
Did the amazon converter end up working for you?
My experience so far.
Hi, I ordered some usb c to 3.5mm & out of the box so far they aren't working. I tried Neutron and tried to force the audio to usb but unsuccessfully with phone not recognizing the USB connection.
On the other hand the type C to usb-a adapter worked beautifully using mixplorer. If I get working, will update. Thanks.
Everyone knows normal 3.5mm audio adapter are not fit for Essential phone due to DAC chipset required. But when you are listening to music, you cannot charge your phone.
Now i recommend a 2 in 1 adapter for you!
What's special?
1. Hi-Res sound quality with a qualified DAC - 96KHz/24 Bits
2. Max 3A PD fast charging
3. You can do 1+2 above at the same time
Here is link for you:
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You will never stop the movie/game on your Essential and pull off the headphone, put on the power and continue with a speaker again.
Thanks for sharing , I ordered one and it works
I'd like to see a video review and some photos of this if possible, the way this post was written sounds like an advertisement of your own product, or a product you got for free from the manufacturer (no offense). Also wondering if it's fully USB-C spec compliant so there won't be any voltage issues when using it.
Edit: Looking at OP's past posts, he is the seller.
@Teclover Bill send me one to review
Blazekitten said:
Thanks for sharing , I ordered one and it works
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Good to know!
Gamernivek said:
I'd like to see a video review and some photos of this if possible, the way this post was written sounds like an advertisement of your own product, or a product you got for free from the manufacturer (no offense). Also wondering if it's fully USB-C spec compliant so there won't be any voltage issues when using it.
Edit: Looking at OP's past posts, he is the seller.
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Happy to tell you, i developed this product, but sell by my friend.
I am open to collect all issues to improve it and listen to public what else they need.
Due to this product needs to be different with normal 2 in 1 usb c adapter (without DAC), the inside design is different. That's why all other 2 in 1 adapters cannot work with external DAC required phones, except for Moshi's. They are totally 2 different stories standing on development point.
For normal usb c adapters, the resistor lays in usb c end, however for this kind of adapters, the components have to put on the motherboard. That is to say, the motherboard will take all the risks and devices won't. The motherboard is 3 inch away from your phone, the heat won't affect the phone.
For voltage issue you are concerning, 5V comes out from power supply all the way, 2A charging into phone. One thing i have to mention: use original power supply to charge!
You are welcome to ask other users from another thread below who got this adapter!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/accessories/finally-pixel-2-xl-audio-pd-charging-2-t3807588
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@Teclover Bill send me one to review
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I am happy to. Check the message box.
Teclover Bill said:
Happy to tell you, i developed this product, but sell by my friend.
I am open to collect all issues to improve it and listen to public what else they need.
Due to this product needs to be different with normal 2 in 1 usb c adapter (without DAC), the inside design is different. That's why all other 2 in 1 adapters cannot work with external DAC required phones, except for Moshi's. They are totally 2 different stories standing on development point.
For normal usb c adapters, the resistor lays in usb c end, however for this kind of adapters, the components have to put on the motherboard. That is to say, the motherboard will take all the risks and devices won't. The motherboard is 3 inch away from your phone, the heat won't affect the phone.
For voltage issue you are concerning, 5V comes out from power supply all the way, 2A charging into phone. One thing i have to mention: use original power supply to charge!
You are welcome to ask other users from another thread below who got this adapter!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/accessories/finally-pixel-2-xl-audio-pd-charging-2-t3807588
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I actually purchased it to test it out. Audio quality is definitely better than the included 48kHz adapter, but I'm running into a problem with it right out of the box. There's a pulsing clicking/popping noise that can occasionally be heard at a low volume in quarter second intervals when headphones are plugged into the adapter and you're on a screen with no sound playing (volume of the phone has no bearing on this) There's also some static when switching between screens with no sound. The OEM 3.5mm adapter doesn't have these problems. Also, the clicking/popping noise can also be heard when the adapter is plugged plugged into the wall with USB-C but not plugged into the phone. So it doesn't really matter where it's plugged into, but if there's a power source, the noise is heard. I'm thinking mine may have been a dud, but would like to hear from you or the seller on wether or not this is a normal occurrence. Sent an email to your friend, the seller, yesterday, waiting for him/her to get back to me now regarding getting a possible replacement.
Gamernivek said:
I actually purchased it to test it out. Audio quality is definitely better than the included 48kHz adapter, but I'm running into a problem with it right out of the box. There's a pulsing clicking/popping noise that can occasionally be heard at a low volume in quarter second intervals when headphones are plugged into the adapter and you're on a screen with no sound playing (volume of the phone has no bearing on this) There's also some static when switching between screens with no sound. The OEM 3.5mm adapter doesn't have these problems. Also, the clicking/popping noise can also be heard when the adapter is plugged plugged into the wall with USB-C but not plugged into the phone. So it doesn't really matter where it's plugged into, but if there's a power source, the noise is heard. I'm thinking mine may have been a dud, but would like to hear from you or the seller on wether or not this is a normal occurrence. Sent an email to your friend, the seller, yesterday, waiting for him/her to get back to me now regarding getting a possible replacement.
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In order to improve it, I'hv asked my friend to send you a replacement, cost on me.
Your problem should not happen, lets see how the replacement works.
I suggest below plugging steps:
1. plug the wall charger to adapter
2. plug the adapter to phone
3. plug headphone to adapter
waiting for your report on replacement.
Teclover Bill said:
In order to improve it, I'hv asked my friend to send you a replacement, cost on me.
Your problem should not happen, lets see how the replacement works.
I suggest below plugging steps:
1. plug the wall charger to adapter
2. plug the adapter to phone
3. plug headphone to adapter
waiting for your report on replacement.
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Thanks! I'll try that from here on out. I realized I used the wrong words to describe the noise in my last post, the sound is actually more like a digital beep. It doesn't sound like distortion (well, the static when switching screens does), but more like something you'd hear from an error message popup in rapid succession.
The product you developed is very good other than this though. The audio quality is better than the OEM adapter and charging is fast. I'm excited to use this as a part of my daily routine!
I did have some observations regarding the design though if you'll hear me out - especially in regards to the cable you used. The cable is very flexible, which may make it more comfortable to use, but I have doubts on how well it can hold up. In my experience, the thiner and less rigid the cable, the more likely it is to fail. If the cable was more rigid and half the length it may hold up longer. I'm sure you have done more testing than I have in this regard though, so after a few months of use I could give you some better findings.
Gamernivek said:
Thanks! I'll try that from here on out. I realized I used the wrong words to describe the noise in my last post, the sound is actually more like a digital beep. It doesn't sound like distortion (well, the static when switching screens does), but more like something you'd hear from an error message popup in rapid succession.
The product you developed is very good other than this though. The audio quality is better than the OEM adapter and charging is fast. I'm excited to use this as a part of my daily routine!
I did have some observations regarding the design though if you'll hear me out - especially in regards to the cable you used. The cable is very flexible, which may make it more comfortable to use, but I have doubts on how well it can hold up. In my experience, the thiner and less rigid the cable, the more likely it is to fail. If the cable was more rigid and half the length it may hold up longer. I'm sure you have done more testing than I have in this regard though, so after a few months of use I could give you some better findings.
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Thanks my friend. Your voice is always important to me.
For the sounding like distortion when switching screens, lets test the replacement;
For the cable, don't worry, this is best cable we are using. My partner factory is a professional cable manufacturer for 10 years and they has all kinds of cable. This one is the most expensive one. Check the copper inside by cutting it off! Come back to me within 1 year if the cable has problem.
Teclover Bill said:
Thanks my friend. Your voice is always important to me.
For the sounding like distortion when switching screens, lets test the replacement;
For the cable, don't worry, this is best cable we are using. My partner factory is a professional cable manufacturer for 10 years and they has all kinds of cable. This one is the most expensive one. Check the copper inside by cutting it off! Come back to me within 1 year if the cable has problem.
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I actually got the replacement very quickly, and I haven't noticed the beeping noise again yet, but the static/white noise is still there when I switch screens. It doesn't happen with the OEM adapter, but it's something that's present with this one. I tried 5 pairs of headphones and found that it varies in intensity depending on which pair I'm using. The best pair I used was a pair of Nox earbuds (discontinued brand), while the worst were JVC. JBL, Xiaomi, and TaoTronics all tested about the same. When switching screens/apps with no volume playing, there's a initial pop of static, followed by a second or so of white noise before it goes away. The Nox buds were the only pair of headphones I tried that only had the initial pop (no white noise following), and at a lower volume than the others I tested. It's almost as if it's trying to pick up on sound that should be playing on the new screen, but once it can't find any it gives up. It may just be a device specific problem as I haven't seen anything regarding this on the Pixel thread, and it's not something serious that will make or break the product, but it is a minor annoyance. Since the replacement had the same problem, I'm assuming it's something that will be true for all stock.
Edit: After a few days the beeping showed up on the replacement as well. Oh well, it still works great if sound is actually playing, but if you're like me and just have your headphones plugged in all the time, it's not something that would replace the OEM adapter (for the 3.5mm adapter only).
Thanks My friend,
It is really a helpful review from you! I have asked other testers also using an Essential phone but they don't have the problem like yours. However, as long as you find problem, i have the responsibility to find them out and fix it. These days i have been looking for several essential phone users to test and waiting for there reports. Meanwhile i am also asking my team to simulate your case and fix that problem, but that need time. Although the phone model is same, it needs time and lucks to re-appear the same problem you have.
Thank you for your wonderful report, i won't ruin your hard work.
Gamernivek said:
I actually got the replacement very quickly, and I haven't noticed the beeping noise again yet, but the static/white noise is still there when I switch screens. It doesn't happen with the OEM adapter, but it's something that's present with this one. I tried 5 pairs of headphones and found that it varies in intensity depending on which pair I'm using. The best pair I used was a pair of Nox earbuds (discontinued brand), while the worst were JVC. JBL, Xiaomi, and TaoTronics all tested about the same. When switching screens/apps with no volume playing, there's a initial pop of static, followed by a second or so of white noise before it goes away. The Nox buds were the only pair of headphones I tried that only had the initial pop (no white noise following), and at a lower volume than the others I tested. It's almost as if it's trying to pick up on sound that should be playing on the new screen, but once it can't find any it gives up. It may just be a device specific problem as I haven't seen anything regarding this on the Pixel thread, and it's not something serious that will make or break the product, but it is a minor annoyance. Since the replacement had the same problem, I'm assuming it's something that will be true for all stock.
Edit: After a few days the beeping showed up on the replacement as well. Oh well, it still works great if sound is actually playing, but if you're like me and just have your headphones plugged in all the time, it's not something that would replace the OEM adapter (for the 3.5mm adapter only).
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Works great for phones with no headphone (3.5) jack. I have the Essential Phone and being able to charge and listen to music/movies via 3.5 jack at the same time has been awesome. The sound is just as good or better than the USB C to 3.5 jack that came with the phone. This should have been included in the box when the phone arrived. I loaded Viper up and it sounds even better. I will be buying again for my other phones..
Thanks so much Johnny for helping test!
I am also looking forward to know whether you have the same problem with the friend in above comments? He is also using an Essential Phone, but he found some problem when using.
I know you are busy, take your time and test it for more days before reports.
As a developer i am eager to kill all imperfect things and make it zero issue to everyone.
Thanks!
johnnycooper said:
Works great for phones with no headphone (3.5) jack. I have the Essential Phone and being able to charge and listen to music/movies via 3.5 jack at the same time has been awesome. The sound is just as good or better than the USB C to 3.5 jack that came with the phone. This should have been included in the box when the phone arrived. I loaded Viper up and it sounds even better. I will be buying again for my other phones..
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Teclover Bill said:
Thanks so much Johnny for helping test!
I am also looking forward to know whether you have the same problem with the friend in above comments? He is also using an Essential Phone, but he found some problem when using.
I know you are busy, take your time and test it for more days before reports.
As a developer i am eager to kill all imperfect things and make it zero issue to everyone.
Thanks!
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I have not had the pop sound/noise when switching apps or anything else. It really has been great. I am rooted running viper though.
Teclover Bill said:
Thanks My friend,
It is really a helpful review from you! I have asked other testers also using an Essential phone but they don't have the problem like yours. However, as long as you find problem, i have the responsibility to find them out and fix it. These days i have been looking for several essential phone users to test and waiting for there reports. Meanwhile i am also asking my team to simulate your case and fix that problem, but that need time. Although the phone model is same, it needs time and lucks to re-appear the same problem you have.
Thank you for your wonderful report, i won't ruin your hard work.
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I'm going to see if I can record the sound somehow. I'm curious as to wether it would play when connected to a speaker - I'll try that next. Kind of odd that I'm the only one who has reports of the extra noises. 2 out of 2 adapters I've tried both had the problem though, so I don't think it's a coincidence. I've also tried the adapters on 2 different Essential Phones and had the same results.
Finnaly an adapter that looks like it works as advertised .
Do you maybe have an EU store too, so that I don't have to pay an arm and a leg for customs and shipping?
Can't wait to enjoy charging and watching a movie at the same time!
To be honest, manufacturers should include an adapter like this by default if they decide to remove 3.5mm port and DAC.
Kind Regards
Teclover Bill said:
For voltage issue you are concerning, 5V comes out from power supply all the way, 2A charging into phone. One thing i have to mention: use original power supply to charge!
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So this adapter charges at lower output than OEM (3A)?
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Yes lower than 3A for smartphones. Only when you use it on laptop like Macbook will reach 3A max.
For PH-1, the max current reach 2.5A max. If you have facebook, i can send you a video showing the charging voltage/current/watt
Spey said:
So this adapter charges at lower output than OEM (3A)?
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