First of all, sorry if this has been answered here, I simply can't find a definitive answer for our S6, let me explain better.
As you may know, I'm not a newbie here or in other forums, I've rooted most of my phones (Not this one) and have installed custom roms dozens of times to all of them, BUT, I'm definitely a newbie about what I need here, I'm trying to see if I can change my SM-G920i region from XSA (Australia) to any other one, India in this case. I have read tons of threads and posts and that's what is confusing me, in some threads there are people saying that they did it and is working great, in that same threads there are people saying that they did it but Knox got tripped, there are others that say that the device is soft bricked and others are saying that they have read somewhere that changing the CSC from it's original one may brake future Samsung pay.
So, this phone is paid by my office, they allow me to do what I want to it while I'm able to just put it back as it came from factory, so that means that I can root it if it doesn't trip Knox, that I can install anything while I can simply go back anytime they need me to, and obviously, Samsung pay works when it finally comes. With this in mind, can somebody answer me a couple of questions?
1-) I know it's possible to do it, but is it true that by doing this I'll have Samsung pay issues? I doubt that knox will be tripped if I do it with odin, but besides knox, is there any possibility that Samsung Pay will not work in certain regions (India in this case) and that's why some are saying that it will break it?
2-) If I download the firmware and flash it via Odin, I'm reading that it won't brick the phone is done via Odin, but in worst case scenario I assume that I can always go back to original one and it gets factory reset, am I right?
3-) If I flash it correctly as I expect an it doesn't brick, does this means that it will change PDA and CSC versions all together, that it will basically become a device from the new flashed region? So if I flash the India one to my XSA (Australia) now it will work completely as an India device and should get future OTA like the rest?
Again, sorry if this has been asked and answered but going back a lot of pages here can't give me definitive answer, thanks in advance for those of you kind enough to answer to this.
Flash a G920i ROM via odin other than your own region/country:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G920I/
roydok said:
Flash a G920i ROM via odin other than your own region/country:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G920I/
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Thanks.
In another thread that I have posted (Brazilian one) I was replied to, so because of that I decided to do it, so far everything is working great as expected. Mine was an Australian baseband (XSA), only thing you I noticed is that when I connect it to Smart Switch app for PC or MAC it will still detects the Original CSC, I was curious about it and installed Phone info apk and it shows correctly the information, both PDA and CSC are now from India but it shows that the Original CSC was XSA (In my case), Firmware's CSC code is INU (India) and Active CSC code it says XSA/INU, so I'm assuming that it's showing multiple CSC.
Does somebody know if having the Active CSC showing XSA/INU causes future OTA issues?
After flashing a ROM its good practice to go to recovery mode and do a full wipe of cache and full reset to change CSC to the default of the ROM you flashed.
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After flashing a ROM its good practice to go to recovery mode and do a full wipe of cache and full reset to change CSC to the default of the ROM you flashed.
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Well, in that case I think I will pass for now, as I did a Full wipe cache and Full reset before the Flash but just did a Wipe cache after I flashed it.
The issue is that I basically just finish setting everything back as it was before (about 3 hours and I still haven't set my Contacts Ringtones and Accounts links) so begin again it's a PITA. Once I finish this I'll do a full nandroid backup to have everything as I want, but if I do the Wipe Data/Full Reset and then restore from the Full backup, does this put everything as it was including CSC again? I've been always confused about how deep this restore goes in the system files. Do you know about it?
Thanks.
Try restoring from your backup after the full wipe from recovery. If everything works then you should be ok. Otherwise start from scratch and reinstall everything one by one.
Will try that later today, thanks.
Goodluck.
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Goodluck.
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I tried that and nothing, still the same, then I decided to remove the Re-activation Lock in Find My Mobile settings, and after that and enter to recovery mode, it changed the CSC to India, so for those of you with same issues, remember about Re-activation lock.
Thanks for your help.
Did you have a SIM card inserted when you flashed your ROM with removed reactivation lock?
I had the SIM card on the phone today all the time as I forgot to bring with me the SIM removal tool and didn't have anything to open the Sim card tray, but last night I didn't have the Sim card installed when I flashed the ROM.
So today after I did the Wipe cache Partition and Data and saw that it still had the same issue, I flashed a UK ROM into a SM-G925f that had some African country ROM (have never heard of it before in my life but for the name it sounded like an African country), anyways I did that and everything went great, so that's when I thought what was different between the devices and then I remember that I had turned on the Reactivation lock in my S6 and not in the S6 Edge, so I turned it off, then went to Recovery mode and for my surprise the CSC was already changed without any other reset or anything.
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I had the SIM card on the phone today all the time as I forgot to bring with me the SIM removal tool and didn't have anything to open the Sim card tray, but last night I didn't have the Sim card installed when I flashed the ROM.
So today after I did the Wipe cache Partition and Data and saw that it still had the same issue, I flashed a UK ROM into a SM-G925f that had some African country ROM (have never heard of it before in my life but for the name it sounded like an African country), anyways I did that and everything went great, so that's when I thought what was different between the devices and then I remember that I had turned on the Reactivation lock in my S6 and not in the S6 Edge, so I turned it off, then went to Recovery mode and for my surprise the CSC was already changed without any other reset or anything.
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can you post a screen of CSC page of Phone ** info ** just for reference?
I see you said that CSC changed to India, but Active CSC or also Original CSC?
What I mean is that, now I have a S6 which has Original, Active CSC as MRU...I'd like to put a European fw on it since I'm based in Europe (got this Middle East / Africa phone just because Dual sim it's not available in europe) but I'm in doubt if putting an european fw will still show that CSC has changed from original one and maybe OTA updates won't work.
thanks
Changing csc!!!
I succesfully installed a G920I indian INU rom in my device which had a XSA rom but when i go to recovery it still shows as XSA ....How do i change that to INU?
Hi i am using a galaxy s6edge+ and i am really struggling with the region lock. I have tried a few options of the factory full reset changing the Apn's to the ones needed and using different sim cards.when it used to go into emergency mode "h+" now it won't connect to any internet at all. Can i possibly have any basic assistance with the rom and resetting options to change the csc when i do a hard reset the csc says it's 'multi'. what does that mean? Any region unlocking help would be appreciated so much!
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Hi guys,
just bought a new Samsung Galaxy S7 (SM-G930F).
Of course I got it with the Android 6.0.1 but I want to upgrade it to 7.
As for now, my build has no OTA updates to 7, but I saw that there's a UK build for Android 7.
Question is... if my build number is G930FXXU1BPLB, can I upgrade it to other build number, as for example to: G930FXXU1DPLT ?
And.. if I can do that... Will I get OTA updates of the future releases? It's important to note that I live in Israel, so what happens if I Install an UK build?
Will it block me to get OTA updates because I'm not from the region?
Thanks!
Everything works, except WifiCalling and VoLTE, if you switch to a british firmware.
So OTA's and the like won't be a problem. It's the same experience as if you were using your current german firmware in Israel.
For OTA's be sure to use the correct CSC file, so it get's changed aswell. DBT/BTU mix stuff won't get you OTA's
Given that i had a problem with restoring WhatsApp's chatlog when switching from 6.0 to 7.0 (which according to google and a post here, i'm the only one to have it), it's still advised to read up on app compatibility.
Also it's advised to do a factory reset after flashing, so everything is reset.
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Everything works, except WifiCalling and VoLTE, if you switch to a british firmware.
So OTA's and the like won't be a problem. It's the same experience as if you were using your current german firmware in Israel.
For OTA's be sure to use the correct CSC file, so it get's changed aswell. DBT/BTU mix stuff won't get you OTA's
Given that i had a problem with restoring WhatsApp's chatlog when switching from 6.0 to 7.0 (which according to google and a post here, i'm the only one to have it), it's still advised to read up on app compatibility.
Also it's advised to do a factory reset after flashing, so everything is reset.
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Thanks,
So I understand you won't any problems. And I don't really need the WiFi calling.
But about the VoLTE, do you mean that I'll loose the 4G ? Or do you something else?
About the CSC, I have to admit that I don't really know what it is. Is it a file that comes with the files that I should flash?
About the build number, I've just saw that there's a newer build of UK according to sammobile website: G930FXXU1DQB3 (released on the 06/02/2017), and the G930FXXU1DPLT (released on 16/01/2017) that I've stated in the original topic.
Is there a difference between them, should I go with the G930FXXU1DQB3 ?
Thanks again.
Semek said:
Thanks,
So I understand you won't any problems. And I don't really need the WiFi calling.
But about the VoLTE, do you mean that I'll loose the 4G ? Or do you something else?
About the CSC, I have to admit that I don't really know what it is. Is it a file that comes with the files that I should flash?
About the build number, I've just saw that there's a newer build of UK according to sammobile website: G930FXXU1DQB3 (released on the 06/02/2017), and the G930FXXU1DPLT (released on 16/01/2017) that I've stated in the original topic.
Is there a difference between them, should I go with the G930FXXU1DQB3 ?
Thanks again.
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VoLTE is the "new" standard for calling.
Normally, when you call someone and don't use VoLTE, you fall back to the local 2G/3G network, which is slower and has lesser quality. Since many providers, atleast in my country, haven't completely switched over (for example prepaid customers still have the outdated 2G/3G calling), you should not notice much of a difference, since it's the same call quality as in 2013 for example. You will still understand people, as they will understand you.
4G / LTE data connectivity is unaffected by it and works without any problems, regardless of country etc. , unless you travel to america and use a local providers sim card there, where you might need the Snapdragon variant of the S7.
That being said, i flashed the newest firmware (DQB3) and it works flawlessly, except afromentioned WhatsApp problem. The only difference is, the update dated to the end of january is included, which fixes some stuff.
A CSC file contains country specific settings, like frequencies used, APN's and even carrier brandings are found in this file, which is why they might differ in size for different regions/carriers.
Because of that, VoLTE and wifi calling might not work, since, in this case, they use the BTU networks standard and you are not in the UK but Israel, aswell as probably not using a british provider.
Anyways back to your question:
There are 2 CSC files, the ROM`s CSC one and a HOME_CSC.
To receive OTA's, you will need to flash the normal CSC and not the HOME one. This will reset and wipe your device (backup all important stuff beforehand) and you get a device "fresh out of the box" bought in the UK.
The HOME CSC does not wipe your memory, but you won't receive OTA updates aswell, since your device hasn't changed it CSC and thus "is not an original BTU device".
So if you go down that route, which is perfectly acceptable and should not make any problems, you will have to flash updates manually via Odin.
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VoLTE is the "new" standard for calling.
Normally, when you call someone and don't use VoLTE, you fall back to the local 2G/3G network, which is slower and has lesser quality. Since many providers, atleast in my country, haven't completely switched over (for example prepaid customers still have the outdated 2G/3G calling), you should not notice much of a difference, since it's the same call quality as in 2013 for example. You will still understand people, as they will understand you.
4G / LTE data connectivity is unaffected by it and works without any problems, regardless of country etc. , unless you travel to america and use a local providers sim card there, where you might need the Snapdragon variant of the S7.
That being said, i flashed the newest firmware (DQB3) and it works flawlessly, except afromentioned WhatsApp problem. The only difference is, the update dated to the end of january is included, which fixes some stuff.
A CSC file contains country specific settings, like frequencies used, APN's and even carrier brandings are found in this file, which is why they might differ in size for different regions/carriers.
Because of that, VoLTE and wifi calling might not work, since, in this case, they use the BTU networks standard and you are not in the UK but Israel, aswell as probably not using a british provider.
Anyways back to your question:
There are 2 CSC files, the ROM`s CSC one and a HOME_CSC.
To receive OTA's, you will need to flash the normal CSC and not the HOME one. This will reset and wipe your device (backup all important stuff beforehand) and you get a device "fresh out of the box" bought in the UK.
The HOME CSC does not wipe your memory, but you won't receive OTA updates aswell, since your device hasn't changed it CSC and thus "is not an original BTU device".
So if you go down that route, which is perfectly acceptable and should not make any problems, you will have to flash updates manually via Odin.
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Wow, thanks for the reply!
I just want to be sure before I do it...
Are those the only options I need to check & load in Odin for flashing the new ROM?
Because I have few more files in the folder like BL and CP.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
So are AP and CSC enough?
Thanks!
Semek said:
Wow, thanks for the reply!
I just want to be sure before I do it...
Are those the only options I need to check & load in Odin for flashing the new ROM?
Because I have few more files in the folder like BL and CP.
So are AP and CSC enough?
Thanks!
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Hi ahi,
I live in Israel too and flashed the UK firmware on my s7.
I install everything that was packed in the rar you download.
Nougat is awesome for our phone.
OrenGazala said:
Hi ahi,
I live in Israel too and flashed the UK firmware on my s7.
I install everything that was packed in the rar you download.
Nougat is awesome for our phone.
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Hi Oren,
It's great to hear that everything works smoothly from someone from my country!
So, just to make sure, before I do anything stupid (or not, heh)... in Odin you selected & loaded the: BL, AP, CP and CSC?
Toda
Semek said:
Hi Oren,
It's great to hear that everything works smoothly from someone from my country!
So, just to make sure, before I do anything stupid (or not, heh)... in Odin you selected & loaded the: BL, AP, CP and CSC?
Toda
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Select everything. Bootloader is very important for example. Otherwise you most likely will brick your phone
Anyways enjoy Nougat, i'm actually doing the same process again now, to see if i can get my WA Backup to work somehow.
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Select everything. Bootloader is very important for example. Otherwise you most likely will brick your phone
Anyways enjoy Nougat, i'm actually doing the same process again now, to see if i can get my WA Backup to work somehow.
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Just finished successfully the process and I'm on 7.0 now
Thank you, you've been very helpful. About the Whatsapp, looks like it restoring fine for me, or at least in the process (it's still downloading the media, the conversation were ok).
Semek said:
Just finished successfully the process and I'm on 7.0 now
Thank you, you've been very helpful. About the Whatsapp, looks like it restoring fine for me, or at least in the process (it's still downloading the media, the conversation were ok).
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Very nice, good to know that it works for you.
Currently doing a downgrade with full wipe to 6.0.1 and then update via OTA. Let's see if that fixes it. Otherwise i have to start clean
Anyways, again enjoy Nougat. Should run very good out of the box
Semek said:
Just finished successfully the process and I'm on 7.0 now
Thank you, you've been very helpful. About the Whatsapp, looks like it restoring fine for me, or at least in the process (it's still downloading the media, the conversation were ok).
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Hey,
I'm happy to know that everything works fine.
Enjoy!
Guys, what about Samsung Pay and Android Pay? Are they working fine? I am on XSA. Australia has Samsung pay and Android Pay working.
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I was on vodafone phone with there bloatware so I flashed btu with csc not home csc once I flashes it wiped cache and reset phone then when it loaded up I got the new ota patch for nougat plus I've also got wifi calling.
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Just a question can some confirm if using stock Samsung browser when keyboard comes up but prodictive text don't work. But when using chrome it works?
I've got a question too. I would like to change my 6.0.1 on 7.0, also British stuff but I'm a little bit concerned about mixing XEO and BTU. Is it possible to mix 6.0.1 HOME_CSC XEO (latest) with 7.0 British BTU + PIT file from the 7.0 BTU Home (I would like to make factory reset and have my native CSC file)? Does it make difference to take PIT file from 6.0.1 or 7.0 Home file either?
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Guys, what about Samsung Pay and Android Pay? Are they working fine? I am on XSA. Australia has Samsung pay and Android Pay working.
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For Samsung Pay, i can't confirm, but since Android Pay definitely works, Samsung Pay should work aswell, if you did not trigger Knox etc.
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I was on vodafone phone with there bloatware so I flashed btu with csc not home csc once I flashes it wiped cache and reset phone then when it loaded up I got the new ota patch for nougat plus I've also got wifi calling.
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Just a question can some confirm if using stock Samsung browser when keyboard comes up but prodictive text don't work. But when using chrome it works?
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Just tested it, i have predictive text in either browser, or anywhere i do have a keyboard.
MalfiRaggraClan said:
I've got a question too. I would like to change my 6.0.1 on 7.0, also British stuff but I'm a little bit concerned about mixing XEO and BTU. Is it possible to mix 6.0.1 HOME_CSC XEO (latest) with 7.0 British BTU + PIT file from the 7.0 BTU Home (I would like to make factory reset and have my native CSC file)? Does it make difference to take PIT file from 6.0.1 or 7.0 Home file either?
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You can mix it, but personally, i advice against it. Might reduce battery life, you will have to flash every update manually, since OTA does not work with a mix of XEO/BTU.
Also, since XEO and BTU share a common CSC file (they are OXA's, multipurpose CSC's) in most nougat roms around, you might need to root anyway to completely switch over, if a repartition + factory / cache reset won't work.
So to summarize, yes it's possible to use the HOME_CSC to avoid switching your CSC and wiping your phone. It's also possible to stay on a 6.0.1 CSC, but! there might be problems later.
If possible always do a fresh install and if your phone runs well currently, why not stay on Marshmallow? Depending on the current OTA release, which you might have to look up for your country, it might be better to wait a bit. Personally for me, it'd be a complete switch over, since i am too lazy to flash every update manually.
That being said, you won't need a PIT file going from 6.0.1 to 7.0, since it is included in the CSC. Pit files might be useful, if you want to downgrade and in some other cases, but not if you just want to upgrade. They include repartition infos, which are important, if you don't have a "4 file flash" (yucks, my english for explaining it better, sorry).
Personally for me, it'd be a complete switch over, since i am too lazy to flash every update manually.
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Yeah, but that wouldn't be a problem for me, cuz I've been using custom ROMs manual flashing on my old fellow Galaxy S4, whenever update was avaiable but anyway, who doesn't want to make things easier?
So to summarize, yes it's possible to use the HOME_CSC to avoid switching your CSC and wiping your phone. It's also possible to stay on a 6.0.1 CSC, but! there might be problems later.
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So what are the main drawbacks using BTU CSC that the XEO? Will it, paradoxically, drain more battery because of incompatibility of GSM frequencies?
If possible always do a fresh install and if your phone runs well currently, why not stay on Marshmallow?
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Marshmallow works perfectly for my phone, especially for battery and performance but obviously, I'm curious whether Nougat would it make more perfect
Depending on the current OTA release, which you might have to look up for your country, it might be better to wait a bit.
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Samsung consultant said to me that they EVEN DON'T KNOW when 7.0 will be relased for our country. That made me angry and I said to myself that I will take the matters into one’s own hands.
Pit files might be useful, if you want to downgrade and in some other cases, but not if you just want to upgrade. They include repartition infos, which are important, if you don't have a "4 file flash" (yucks, my english for explaining it better, sorry).
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So, If I have only AP file, I will need to use PIT file for downgrading also, right?
And very well explained issue, it really helps me a lot in a certain level of understanding the given topic
MalfiRaggraClan said:
Yeah, but that wouldn't be a problem for me, cuz I've been using custom ROMs manual flashing on my old fellow Galaxy S4, whenever update was avaiable but anyway, who doesn't want to make things easier?
So what are the main drawbacks using BTU CSC that the XEO? Will it, paradoxically, drain more battery because of incompatibility of GSM frequencies?
Marshmallow works perfectly for my phone, especially for battery and performance but obviously, I'm curious whether Nougat would it make more perfect
Samsung consultant said to me that they EVEN DON'T KNOW when 7.0 will be relased for our country. That made me angry and I said to myself that I will take the matters into one’s own hands.
So, If I have only AP file, I will need to use PIT file for downgrading also, right?
And very well explained issue, it really helps me a lot in a certain level of understanding the given topic
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Sorry for the late reply, work called.
Usually a BTU won't draw more battery or anything, since frequencies mostly are standard in every country. It's more like saved APN's etc. (which you can change manually via your phone's settings menu anyways). But as previously mentioned to the original poster, you can depending on where you live, loose out on VoLTE and Wifi-Calling, since those a carrier specific and usually not included in an unbranded ROM. If those are important to you, you probably want to stick with your current ROM, even if i do understand that new things are always fun. Even i did not wait for my carrier..
But having OTA updates and stuff like that is convenient, otherwise you'd have to flash every update like this one, which is why i recommend using a full BTU firmware, if you really wanna do it. Well, you don't have to flash it manually.. but it won't change since OTA updates are CSC based. So for example if Android 7.1 or another security patch will come out, you will need to wait until your XEO (Poland, i presume?) firmware get's the corresponding update, which according to you might take ages, since the original Nougat is not even out yet.
If you only have an AP file, i recommend using updato.com / samfirmware to download the current image of the BTU. Since you will need Bootloader and Modem files aswell (BL, CP respectively), aswell as the CSC file. I have checked though, your current CSC is included in the OXA (multipurpose CSC) of the BTU. So you might wanna flash a non BTU image first to change the CSC to something not included in the BTU one. Otherwise you will need root access to change it manually and this triggers Knox as we all know and thus your warranty is gone. And if you flash a non BTU image, be sure to factory reset / clear cache via recovery mode after installing and then let it boot normally, so the CSC change will take effect, afterwards flash the BTU image will all files and do the same. Be sure to backup your data beforehand, since they will get lost and do NOT use the HOME_CSC file. This one is for not changing the CSC at all and will retain your data. Use the ROM's CSC. Also always check the rom for your model, i have seen people who used a 935F (which is the edge) ROM on a flat S7 (which is 930F in europe mostly). But that's why i highlight it.
If you have further questions, i'll answer them to the best of my abilities
Oh and i almost forgot, you don't need a pit file . It's really just for more engineerical purposes as explained in ODIN. Current Marshmallow and Nougat Roms consist of 4 parts, which include the corresponding PIT.
I highly recommend not using the PIT file, if you don't know what it entails (you will need to look on the internet for it, since it will be quite lengthy if i explain). In short, as long as an update does not use a different partition layout and / or you mess up your partitions by yourself, you just don't need it. And doing afromentioned, would require extensive knowledge about Android anyways. As long as you don't root and modify your system yourself, you most likely will always be fine. And since rooting does have it's drawback (like some Apps not working due to security, Samsung warranty void etc), i'd not recommend it anyways, unless you are experienced
Sorry for the late reply, work called.
But as previously mentioned to the original poster, you can depending on where you live, loose out on VoLTE and Wifi-Calling, since those a carrier specific and usually not included in an unbranded ROM.
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Np
Doesn't matter for me, I don't use them either, because I am on unbranded one from the very beginning
XEO (Poland, i presume?)
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Yes, exactly.
If you only have an AP file, i recommend using updato.com / samfirmware to download the current image of the BTU.
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No, I have 4 file package from Sammobile, but the previous question was about what could I do when I have only AP file. But I know this now
Since you will need Bootloader and Modem files aswell (BL, CP respectively), aswell as the CSC file. I have checked though, your current CSC is included in the OXA (multipurpose CSC) of the BTU. So you might wanna flash a non BTU image first to change the CSC to something not included in the BTU one.
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For Example?? And If I want to make full switch over towards BTU, should I really need to flash something non - BTU or just pure BTU (with BTU CSC file)? And what if my carrier will release XEO 7.0 stuff... then would I need to flash the same non BTU/XEO stuff to change CSC again?
Oh and i almost forgot, you don't need a pit file . It's really just for more engineerical purposes as explained in ODIN.
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I have used the PIT file when I was debranding, that is why I was asking about extended purposes Obviously, I haven't got extensive knowledge about android but I know just the basics (the reason why it looks like that is I am not programming anything, otherwise I would know more, much more).
And, using occasion... Since S7 ownership I was wondering how root would affect function "safe start". Would it be possible to bypass this function COMPLETELY after launch, on the rooted phone (For example: if someone could steal it and unluckily, had extensive android knowledge could bypass launch/start password, and, the worst, security lock, when my phone is fully rooted)?
Hi all,
Yesterday I bought an S10e under the impression that it is sm-g970F.
Trying to flash Android 11 I discovered that it is actually sm-g970N.
Is there really a difference between them?
Should I be worried that some functions will be missing/unavailable?
Also, in the settings, it appears as g970F. How did the seller change it??
I have the same problem i tried to update the phone to the latest sm-g970f rom (figured if it's already installed it's possible)
And non of the roms flashed only when i decided to try latest sm-g970n rom it flashed however i bricked the phone and i have no idea what to do now.
almogkm said:
Hi all,
Yesterday I bought an S10e under the impression that it is sm-g970F.
Trying to flash Android 11 I discovered that it is actually sm-g970N.
Is there really a difference between them?
Should I be worried that some functions will be missing/unavailable?
Also, in the settings, it appears as g970F. How did the seller change it??
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So after digging into the issue since i have the same problem here are my conclusions:
1. The phone is a Korean Variant G970N it is probably a renewed phone and not a new one.
apparently it's okay for an importer to take used phones (from Korea in this case) and replace all the cosmetics but of cause leaving the used MB.
Now here is what you should worry about, in order to flash the G970F Fixed Rom (there is no way you have updates) they used a Custom Kernel which means the phone was rooted and now Knox is tripped (this not reversible).
(Download Phone Info from play store and check knox if it shows 0x1 then your phone warrenty is void and some features won't be available any more for example - Samsung Pay).
So what should you do?
Well if you still have the option i would have demanded my money back!!
One thing that i am perplexed about is how in hell is this legal?!!!
If you no longer have this option or you want to keep the phone you have two option:
1. Flashing Korean Unbranded Firmware (KOO) which is pretty good it doesn't have bloatware or issues as far as i can tell, i only found one down side for it, the phone language selection is small but if you only need English (like any normal Human) then you are golden.
2. Keep the G970F ROM but bare in mind it will receive no updates and no security patches.
I am still looking for a proper way to flash G970F Firmware over G970N for now i haven't found any internet source that will confirm it's even possible.
So how did those importers\sellers did it, they probably flashed it with a Cellphone Lab Software (not Odin solution) and used a custom Kernel to fool Knox, like i said before this is practically a crime and i don't understand how can they sell used phones as new and get away with it!!!!
I had the same suspicions....
I'll try going to the lab that sold the previous owner the device and deal with them tho it looks like I just got scammed...
Sorry to bring this up again but I've just had an idea following JerryRigEverything's video:
What if I transplant SM-G970F components from a broken device that no longer works or in use in my SM-G970N which is supposedly new.
My N device is now bricked for some reason I couldn't solve, though my suspicion is that it has to do with incompatibility with the SIM card I use.
When my device did work, it worked great! ...besides battery issues that are most likely a result of the incompatibility aforementioned.
Will this work? If so, what components do I need? I already know I'll need the logic board but as seen in the video, there are several more antennas, should I just copy what Jerry did?
Vegetto32 said:
I have the same problem i tried to update the phone to the latest sm-g970f rom (figured if it's already installed it's possible)
And non of the roms flashed only when i decided to try latest sm-g970n rom it flashed however i bricked the phone and i have no idea what to do now.
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Hi Vegetto,
I am from India and buy a galaxy S10e from UAE, It is showing G970F in the Phone's about but the problem is It is a G960N. Now, When I see in Sam Phone Info app there is Bootloader version - G970N, PDA Version - G970F, CSC G970F.
It is also a Knox tripped phone. Knox 0/1.
But if I see in Samsung code by typing in keypad *#12580*369#
it showing like all option in Odin:
BL: G970F
AP: G970F
CP: G970F
CSC: G970F
Does this means I can flash new Firmware on the list of SAM Mobile website, with G970F series firmware, It also showing in SAM Phone Info App that there latest firmware G970FXXSEFUL1/G970FOXMEFUJ2/G970FXXSEFUJ2.
I am in India right now.
Please help me, My email Id is -- [email protected]
It actually means you cannot flash SM-G970F the only roms you can flash are G970N.
Also if you want the phone to get security updates you must flash the original phones bootloader version, my suggestion download the G970N KOO firmware it's a global firmware. As for the knox it is tripped and there is nothing you can do about it.
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It actually means you cannot flash SM-G970F the only roms you can flash are G970N.
Also if you want the phone to get security updates you must flash the original phones bootloader version, my suggestion download the G970N KOO firmware it's a global firmware. As for the knox it is tripped and there is nothing you can do about it.
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How can I flash the original phone's bootloader version?
Where from I can download the original phone's G970N KOO Firmware and is it official Samsung Firmware?
How are they able to flash G970F? Is it custom Rom or do they use the original one?
I searched that my phone is using G970FXXS4BTB3 firmware which Vietnam XXV and same number found at https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s10e/firmware/SM-G970F/XXV/download/G970FXXS4BTB3/322678/ in an old update in 2020.
So see the attached screenshot, can I flash its latest version with odin. Of course, there is a chinese written in recovery mode installed when I go to its recovery mode for flashing with Odin.
I have a similar problem right now on my Korean S10E. Device is SM-G970N. I need it to be in Turkish. Only Themes item in Settings is in Turkish- very interesting- The rest is in English. App names are mostly Turkish Settings app name is in English.
The bootloader is unlocked but the phone is not rooted, Knox seems not tampered.
Could not start OTA update at first, I have upgraded a few versions from PC via Smartswitch. Just then noticed OTA also started downloading. The rest of the updates went on from the phone until upgrading to 12, there was a message like "All of the updates were not succesful." OTA update no longer responded. This time I turned back to Smart Switch. Update finished this time and finally I am at the latest version.
I only need Turkish in Settings. I used some ADB commands and an app called MoreLocale2. It did not work either. This has to be simple. Turkish exists. Keyboard is Turkish but not Settings. Quick links and most other things are strangely mixed English and Turkish.
How can I enable full Turkish?
I bought the S22 ultra Korean version with KT branding. I really don't like their bloatware.
I downloaded the non-branded Korean firmware (KOO) and also the non-branded US firmware (XAA).
I tried to flash both using Odin but no luck. It continuously shows the "Secure check failed: PIT" error.
What am I missing?
My first priority is to flash the US non-branded firmware. Both of the models are Snapdragon. So, is it possible to do so?(2nd question)
Original Baseband: S908NKSU1AVCH
Downloaded Korean Baseband: S908NKSU1AVCK_S908NOKR1AVCK_KOO
Downloaded USA Baseband: S908U1UEU1AVC8_S908U1OYM1AVC8_XAA
Odin: 3.14.1
update: Finally successfully flashed Korean non-branded firmware. But CSC didn't change. It is still KT branded one. What did I miss?
You have to look for chimeratool or Samkey to change csc.
did you flash the CSC file ? or just the AP
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did you flash the CSC file ? or just the AP
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I used all the four files (BL, AP, CP, and CSC). I didn't use HOME_CSC, used CSC instead.
yeah i was just checking, i dont know then did you try chimeratool or Samkey
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yeah i was just checking, i dont know then did you try chimeratool or Samkey
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Sorry, I didn't try Samkey or chimeratool. Is it possible to change CSC by flashing the ROM via odin?
well usually, you can choose to just flash the csc on its own, i dont know why its not working without insulting you with questions like "is usb debugging" enabled lol
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well usually, you can choose to just flash the csc on its own, i dont know why its not working without insulting you with questions like "is usb debugging" enabled lol
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Haha, there is nothing to get insulted about. We, humans, are prone to make silly mistakes. I didn't make this mistake this time maybe.
Checklist:
1. USB debugging enabled
2. Samsung driver reinstalled
3. Downloaded Odin's latest version
4. OEM lock disabled
5. Bootloader lock enabled/disabled (tried both).
I was able to flash the firmware once but didn't change CSC. But don't know why.
Then I tried to flash the firmware again but didn't work. It fails to write. Tried more than 20 times with different configurations but no luck.
have you tried the patched versions of odin ? check my thread "here" for links
Thank you for the patched app. If I used patched Odin, will it trigger Knox?
And can I flash US non-branded firmware to Korean branded phones?
Both are single sim snapdragon phones.
i would assume so, but you know what presumption did......... if its a stock rom i dont think it will trigger knox, aslong as its an unmodified official release firmware you should be ok
ive been out of the game for a while due to the pleasure of her majesty, so wait to see what other people say that have been more current than me
I have tried using patched Odin. But it's stuck at Setup Connection.
the only other thing im thinking is maybe there is an error in the download, back in the day they used to come with md5 checksums, they dont seem to now, how confident are you the download isnt corrupted ? have you tried to extract it to see that it unpacks properly
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the only other thing im thinking is maybe there is an error in the download, back in the day they used to come with md5 checksums, they dont seem to now, how confident are you the download isnt corrupted ? have you tried to extract it to see that it unpacks properly
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Finally, I was able to flash using Odin. The problem was I tried to flash the US version first which returns with PIT error. But then I tried to flash Korean ROM without restarting the phone. Which caused the problem. But if I flash with a fresh start inside download mode, it works fine.
But the pit error problems are still there for the US ROM. Is there any way to flash US ROM on Korean model?
Thanks a lot for all the replies.
nazmulnsu said:
Finally, I was able to flash using Odin. The problem was I tried to flash the US version first which returns with PIT error. But then I tried to flash Korean ROM without restarting the phone. Which caused the problem. But if I flash with a fresh start inside download mode, it works fine.
But the pit error problems are still there for the US ROM. Is there any way to flash US ROM on Korean model?
Thanks a lot for all the replies.
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ive only ever owned australian and uk devices, so i couldnt tell you with any certainty, but one would assume if its the same chipset / processor the region of the rom shouldnt make any difference
Yes, I assumed that too. But seems like Samsung added some extra layer of security for different pit files. I tried many ways to flash US firmware. But, it always says "Secure check fail: pit".
Hope someone can crack that. Thanks a lot for your kind replies.
However, I was able to flash KOO ROM a few times but it didn't change the CSC. My phone still remained KT branded.
I tried to cleared cache and did factory reset before booting and after flashing, but no luck.