Should I activate via eSim or Sim card? - Google Pixel 2 Questions & Answers

My Pixel 2 is arriving sometime today and I'm on Fi. After hearing about some problems with eSim activations, is it better to activate with my old Nexus 5x's sim card? Or is it fine to activate via eSim? What would you do with a new phone?

To me, the advantage of the esim is that I can have Fi on the esim and use another carrier's physical sim, then easily switch (you can't use both simultaneously). Also, the esim is new and cool.
Other than that, it might be simpler to stick with a physical sim, as it would be easier to put in another phone if your Pixel 2 has a problem.

Depends on your carrier, my coworker had sprint tell him the esim is invalid to them. So they had to order him a sim (was using a s6)
On my Fi, i mine was preactivated to the esim when i got it

skullzaflare said:
Depends on your carrier, my coworker had sprint tell him the esim is invalid to them. So they had to order him a sim (was using a s6)
On my Fi, i mine was preactivated to the esim when i got it
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I forgot to mention that I'm on Fi as well. I guess it means that mine will be preactivated as well.

beefamato said:
I forgot to mention that I'm on Fi as well. I guess it means that mine will be preactivated as well.
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Well i say preactivated, but thats not 100% right.
So when i powered it up and went through setup, after logging into my google account it popped up "Fi activation" and processed, kicking my 5x with fi sim off (confirming first of course)

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Well i say preactivated, but thats not 100% right.
So when i powered it up and went through setup, after logging into my google account it popped up "Fi activation" and processed, kicking my 5x with fi sim off (confirming first of course)
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If you haven't already, consider ordering a data sim. It's free and it will let you use data on the 5x.

foosion said:
If you haven't already, consider ordering a data sim. It's free and it will let you use data on the 5x.
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Yea i have it in it with my hangouts installed, so if something happens i just power it on and i can call/text with hangouts

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activating phone from an upgrade not yours

quick question... my scenario is that I used my wifes upgrade to get the m8 and phone just came in today. She is taking my s4. Do I need to first activate it under her account and then do the switch or can I just go online and activate it directly under my account? We have two separate accounts. Just seems tedious to have to first activate it on her account and then do the switch. THanks!
topaz330 said:
quick question... my scenario is that I used my wifes upgrade to get the m8 and phone just came in today. She is taking my s4. Do I need to first activate it under her account and then do the switch or can I just go online and activate it directly under my account? We have two separate accounts. Just seems tedious to have to first activate it on her account and then do the switch. THanks!
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You should call Verizon and see if they can activate it to yours, but you're probably going to need to go into a store to get a SIM card that is provisioned for your account. The SIM is what matters and what they sent you is probably set up for her line.
If you have a micro SIM you can just pop yours in and be fine. But I don't know if the s4 uses the same size SIM card.
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i do this all the time with work. You can call them and authorize the device to be switched to your account without activating it on her line. You will have to be an admin on the her account or have someone on the line who is.
topaz330 said:
quick question... my scenario is that I used my wifes upgrade to get the m8 and phone just came in today. She is taking my s4. Do I need to first activate it under her account and then do the switch or can I just go online and activate it directly under my account? We have two separate accounts. Just seems tedious to have to first activate it on her account and then do the switch. THanks!
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I did the same thing as you, i just called in Verizon and they switched it over without activating the new M8 on my sister's line.
it will work fine!
spiceditup said:
I did the same thing as you, i just called in Verizon and they switched it over without activating the new M8 on my sister's line.
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thanks! did your sister need to be there or did they just activate this on your account? I just spole with a rep and they said since it's on two different accounts the phone needs to be active on her account for 24 hours before i switch. is that true?
There's no magic in the SIM. You simply need the SIM number tied to your phone number. You can switch the SIM the same as you could switch the IMEI on older phones. The website walks you through it if you choose activate or switch device.
Assuming you're trying to keep your unlimited data, I would do it in the below order.
Activate the device on her account when you get it.
Log into her account and switch her old phone back on the line.
Log into your account and put the M8 and SIM on your line.
Take her SIM from the old phone and plug it into the GS4. If her old SIM is not a micro sim, simply go through the switch process again with your S4 and SIM.
You should be able to do all of the above as quickly as you can click through the website.
got it to work... just called back CS and got someone competent on the phone. They did the switch and all is well. THanks for the help fellas!
I wouldn't imagine there'd be any need to call CS, just pop your SIM into the new phone (assuming it's a nano SIM (or you can cut it down)) and turn it on. The only thing that needs activating via CS is the new nano SIM that comes inside the M8, if you're using your original SIM then there shouldn't be anything to call CS about.
The above only applies if both phones and lines are using LTE phones with SIM cards, if they're still on 3G phones with no SIM, then you'll need CS to switch lines and phones around.
Your must activate it first on the upgrade plan, if you don't you will lose your plan. My wife did our wrong when she got her motox.
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Yeah I did the same thing..
I got on a separate phone from any phone on my account and called the activation line went through it and the options lead you to a choice of activating the new phone/sim with a line other than the one the renewal was used on. At that point I had to talk to a customer service person and it was a piece of cake. They did try and sell me insurance again.
Easy though
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Issues with Google Pixel 2 on TotalWireless -without APN access can't get Mobile Data

I am having problems connecting to TotalWireless Mobile Data with my new Pixel 2. (I can make calls and get texts without problem - just no access to Mobile Data). I have been on the phone with Customer Service (with Google, TotalWireless and Verizon - which provides the service for TotalWireless) and nothing we have tried has helped (Factory Resets, new SIM, etc). We've even had 3 way conversations and no one can figure it out.
First, I am wondering if anyone else out there has successfully connected a new Pixel 2 to Total Wireless. One of the customer service reps thought perhaps the phone was "too new" to be supported on their network. If I know someone has succeeded, that would be helpful.
Second, the Verizon Customer Service guy said the problem is that I can't edit my APN Settings. When I go to "Settings / Network & Internet / Mobile Network / Access Point Names" I am given an error: "Access Point Name settings are not available for this user". Google confirmed there is no way to enable this option. It sounds like more recent versions of Android stopped allowing users to edit these values - instead they are automatically set by the carrier. The carrier said if I could enter "TRACFONE.VZWENTP" for Name and Access Point Value it would fix my issue.
I have debated trying to root the phone, but it sounds a bit too complicated for me. (I did try to enable some of the Developer Options on the phone, and I tried to Reset the APN values but nothing helped.). I know my SIM card is good because when I put it in my daughter's phone, her phone and Mobile Data worked fine.
The Google Pixel 2 allows Google Customer Service to do a screenshare on your phone (a new feature....and only if you give them access). They can't actually click on any buttons - you have to do that. That is a nice feature. But, they didn't find any way to get around this APN issue either.
Does anyone have any other suggestions for how to edit APN settings on the Google Pixel 2 without gaining ROOT access. While I am an engineer, the process does sound a bit too complicated and risky to try on a brand new (and expensive) phone.
Thanks.
Same for me. I use Tracfone with Verizion and I cannot add a new APN to the empty list as well.
You can't make a new one?
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No. Verizon doesn't allow you to change APN.
Tidbits said:
You can't make a new one?
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nealllee said:
No. Verizon doesn't allow you to change APN.
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So no + to make a new one. That sucks.
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Google store or Verizon bought?
Blue color?
If Google and no
Try factory reset without the sim.
Go through setup
Go in and try and add a apn.
Then put in your sim.
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Same exact issue for me. On phone with Total Wireless and they are just instructing me to change the APN settings which pop up as "Access Point Names are not available for this user." Phone/SMS working fine but mobile data is never going to get through without the proper APN. Looking online for some sort of profile setting that can be opened on the net that will set the APN to the correct settings without having to manually enter them (i've done that with iPhones in the past) but i don't have high hopes.
Sadly, this beautiful piece of hardware may soon be heading back to the google popup.
Same issue here. New Pixel 2 5-inch on Straight Talk Wireless - which uses Verizon towers. Says "Access point names are not available for this user" and I can't add an APN, edit an APN, see a list of APNs, etc. - only option in three-dot menu is to reset to defaults. I've factory reset the phone four times, checked the sim's placement, etc. Have been on phone and chat with both Google and Straight Talk for hours and they can't fix it. Latest is Google had me put phone into developer mode and create and submit a bug report. If they don't fix it soon I'm sending it back to Google. Ridiculous for Google's flagship, $800 phone to have such a fundamental problem.
Orangwutang said:
Same issue here. New Pixel 2 5-inch on Straight Talk Wireless - which uses Verizon towers. Says "Access point names are not available for this user" and I can't add an APN, edit an APN, see a list of APNs, etc. - only option in three-dot menu is to reset to defaults. I've factory reset the phone four times, checked the sim's placement, etc. Have been on phone and chat with both Google and Straight Talk for hours and they can't fix it. Latest is Google had me put phone into developer mode and create and submit a bug report. If they don't fix it soon I'm sending it back to Google. Ridiculous for Google's flagship, $800 phone to have such a fundamental problem.
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Did you buy the Blue or bought a Pixel intended for Verizon(popups also is Verizon)
If you did then I believe best to return it and get an unlocked one. Then the options would be different.
If one of you guys have an unlocked version. Try factory reset WITHOUT the sim in it and go through the setup process. Once that done try putting in the sim and restart the phone. Then see if you can switch the APN.
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I had this problem activating on Straight Talk. I actually put a sim in from another Verizon MVNO and it added the APN for me. FWIW, it was Page Plus. I used to be on their plans before switching to Straight Talk. I kept the sim just in case I wanted to switch back some day. Just swapping sims made the APN for Verizon pop up with the wrong name. I changed the name to the correct one, then I was good to go.
lightningdude said:
I had this problem activating on Straight Talk. I actually put a sim in from another Verizon MVNO and it added the APN for me. FWIW, it was Page Plus. I used to be on their plans before switching to Straight Talk. I kept the sim just in case I wanted to switch back some day. Just swapping sims made the APN for Verizon pop up with the wrong name. I changed the name to the correct one, then I was good to go.
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Wow. this is super interesting. Will give it a shot. I can't wait for Page Plus to figure out why no one is sticking on their plans.
I bought the totally unlocked Pixel from the Google store. (Not the one that is pre-configured with Verizon as the carrier)
I did try several factory resets - with and without the SIM card. (These phones comes with some eSIM so do work without a SIM - unlike the new iPhones).
No matter which way I restarted, was never able to add an APN. This feature seems to be disabled in newer Android versions. And the "Reset" option (under three dots in APN menu) didn't change anything.
gesrowley said:
I bought the totally unlocked Pixel from the Google store. (Not the one that is pre-configured with Verizon as the carrier)
I did try several factory resets - with and without the SIM card. (These phones comes with some eSIM so do work without a SIM - unlike the new iPhones).
No matter which way I restarted, was never able to add an APN. This feature seems to be disabled in newer Android versions. And the "Reset" option (under three dots in APN menu) didn't change anything.
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Might need to put in a T-Mobile SIM or some other sim that'll let you modify the APN. The swap.
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I got mine working. I took out the Straight Talk Wireless (Verizon) sim and put in an old, inactive sim from another network (Mobiphone from Vietnam - the only sim I had lying around). That allowed me to edit the APN settings, and I edited one of the Mobiphone settings so that the name and APN were both TRACFONE.VZWENTP, then saved it. Then swapped the Straight Talk Wireless (Verizon) sim back in and was still able to see the TRACFONE.VZWENTP APN. I selected that and my LTE mobile data immediately started working. What a pain in the ass. Still amazed that such a hokey workaround was required to get an $800+ flagship phone working, but at least it's working. Good luck!
I'm having the same issues, no mobile data or sms pics. Brand new unlocked google pixel 2 xl. Was with Net10 and tried 4 hours with their support and no love. Then switched to Total Wireless and no luck either and have spent 5 hours with their support people and 4 hours with google support and their both clueless. A factory reset of the phone did not help.
granitepeaker said:
I'm having the same issues, no mobile data or sms pics. Brand new unlocked google pixel 2 xl. Was with Net10 and tried 4 hours with their support and no love. Then switched to Total Wireless and no luck either and have spent 5 hours with their support people and 4 hours with google support and their both clueless. A factory reset of the phone did not help.
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The above mentioned trick work, thanks. First I tried my earlier Net10 sim and the APN settings weren't imported. Then I was able to find one of my older Straight Talk sim cards and the Pixel 2 imported its APN settings and then I was able to edit it to Total Wireless APN settings and put the TW sim back in and now I'm in business. Wonder if this is google's fault or the way TW and Net10 makes their sim cards. I suppose i'm satisfied for now, but good grief!
Interesting that using an old SIM card might help you edit APN settings...
Orangwutang said:
I got mine working. I took out the Straight Talk Wireless (Verizon) sim and put in an old, inactive sim from another network (Mobiphone from Vietnam - the only sim I had lying around). That allowed me to edit the APN settings, and I edited one of the Mobiphone settings so that the name and APN were both TRACFONE.VZWENTP, then saved it. Then swapped the Straight Talk Wireless (Verizon) sim back in and was still able to see the TRACFONE.VZWENTP APN. I selected that and my LTE mobile data immediately started working. What a pain in the ass. Still amazed that such a hokey workaround was required to get an $800+ flagship phone working, but at least it's working. Good luck!
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So interesting that entering an old SIM card worked! When talking to Google support, the woman said she too was seeing that the APN menu was disabled on the sample Pixel 2 she had in the support center. I got the impression from her that this was an Android 8.0.0 feature and NOT related to the carrier I had chosen. I saw another post in another thread about someone taking an old (larger) SIM card (from their old cell phone) and they cut it down to fit in the Pixel 2 phone (which is a smaller SIM) and that it worked. Perhaps I'll have to try that!
Thanks!
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So interesting that entering an old SIM card worked! When talking to Google support, the woman said she too was seeing that the APN menu was disabled on the sample Pixel 2 she had in the support center. I got the impression from her that this was an Android 8.0.0 feature and NOT related to the carrier I had chosen. I saw another post in another thread about someone taking an old (larger) SIM card (from their old cell phone) and they cut it down to fit in the Pixel 2 phone (which is a smaller SIM) and that it worked. Perhaps I'll have to try that!
Thanks!
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Adding APN settings didn't work on the Pixel 1 either. Not sure if this is Google's fault or Total Wiress / Net10.
granitepeaker said:
The above mentioned trick work, thanks. First I tried my earlier Net10 sim and the APN settings weren't imported. Then I was able to find one of my older Straight Talk sim cards and the Pixel 2 imported its APN settings and then I was able to edit it to Total Wireless APN settings and put the TW sim back in and now I'm in business. Wonder if this is google's fault or the way TW and Net10 makes their sim cards. I suppose i'm satisfied for now, but good grief!
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The only old SIM card I have (from TMobile) is too big. Does anyone know if it will work if I just go in and buy an unactivated SIM card at the TMobile store (for 10$) and try it with that? Or will the phone not accept the SIM until it gets activated with that service? (I don't want TMobile - I want Total Wireless service). If I asked a friend to borrow their SIM card, would making the APN changes alter their SIM in any way they might not like?
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The only old SIM card I have (from TMobile) is too big. Does anyone know if it will work if I just go in and buy an unactivated SIM card at the TMobile store (for 10$) and try it with that? Or will the phone not accept the SIM until it gets activated with that service? (I don't want TMobile - I want Total Wireless service). If I asked a friend to borrow their SIM card, would making the APN changes alter their SIM in any way they might not like?
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You can always ask a friend if they have T-Mobile. I believe it doesn't have to be active because if you try to do anything it routes you to T-Mobile portals.
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Old T-Mobile card didn't help me
granitepeaker said:
The above mentioned trick work, thanks. First I tried my earlier Net10 sim and the APN settings weren't imported. Then I was able to find one of my older Straight Talk sim cards and the Pixel 2 imported its APN settings and then I was able to edit it to Total Wireless APN settings and put the TW sim back in and now I'm in business. Wonder if this is google's fault or the way TW and Net10 makes their sim cards. I suppose i'm satisfied for now, but good grief!
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So, I took my old T-Mobile SIM card, cut it to the small nano size ( with exacto knife and nail file). The phone started up fine and now allowed me to add a new TW APN value and select it. But when I put my old TW card back in, mobile data still didnt work. And APN menu still didn't show any values to chose from.
Anyone else have any other suggestions?

Esim

I apologize if this was already made aware or confirmed but I can confirm that Google does allow the Pixel 3xl esim to be used by other carriers other than project fi. I successfully got it working with tmobile.
For those with tmobile here is the instructions on how to get esim working with them.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/co...es_how_to_activate/?utm_source=reddit-android
And here is the screen shot of me utilizing tmobile as my esim.
Thanks for all of the xda community helping out to make things possible for our phones that many of the carriers would not allow us to do.
If you insert a physical SIM from another carrier, can you receive calls on both phone numbers? Or do you have to choose which single carrier you're on an any one time?
I wish this phone could do both at once, but unfortunately I have to switch back an fourth. I read somewhere that they had a rom or hack that could on one of the older pixels, but that is not confirmed and I don't know if it really existed or if I was reading what I wanted to read.
brandonpa said:
I apologize if this was already made aware or confirmed but I can confirm that Google does allow the Pixel 3xl esim to be used by other carriers other than project fi. I successfully got it working with tmobile.
For those with tmobile here is the instructions on how to get esim working with them.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/co...es_how_to_activate/?utm_source=reddit-android
And here is the screen shot of me utilizing tmobile as my esim.
Thanks for all of the xda community helping out to make things possible for our phones that many of the carriers would not allow us to do.
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im on vzw and had an eid lol unfortunately i accidentally wiped it during a factory reset lol
elliwigy said:
im on vzw and had an eid lol unfortunately i accidentally wiped it during a factory reset lol
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Where can I get the eid?
NICEGYPT said:
Where can I get the eid?
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It should be on your box. It's not something that can be erased in a factory reset.
anuraj1 said:
It should be on your box. It's not something that can be erased in a factory reset.
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I'll check it when I get home.. under setting EID is unknown
Thanks
Did anyone try to activate eSim on Verizon?
Curious if visual voicemail in the phone dialer app is working for you? I'm having an issue getting it to work on one of my pixels. I've swapped some in my phone and determined it's the pixel/line having issues... might give this a try but wanted to make sure visual voicemail works for you.
Mattbroffman said:
Curious if visual voicemail in the phone dialer app is working for you? I'm having an issue getting it to work on one of my pixels. I've swapped some in my phone and determined it's the pixel/line having issues... might give this a try but wanted to make sure visual voicemail works for you.
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For me, I had to log into my VZW account and disable all my VM related stuff. Made a test call and my VVM works flawlessly on my dialer app. I don't have eSim because I'm using VZW. Maybe OP can answer this if you are referring to eSim.
Would you guys know if Sprint support the eSIM on Pixel 3 XL?
Thank you.
samteeee said:
Would you guys know if Sprint support the eSIM on Pixel 3 XL?
Thank you.
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Call them. I have Google Fi with Sprint eSim support but not sure about stand alone. Only the Google version not the Verizon version, however.
bobby janow said:
Call them. I have Google Fi with Sprint eSim support but not sure about stand alone. Only the Google version not the Verizon version, however.
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Thanks, but looking for the "QR Code" , gotta call them like you suggested.
Oh this thread started in Dec?
I have found this issue recently:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/help/esim-usable-t3904875
It works before. It is weird...
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By the way, has anyone tried if this works on CM instead of stock ROM?
Where I can find eid number. My provider told your imei number not valid for esim.
location : India
Provider : Jio
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sendhiloo7 said:
Where I can find eid number. My provider told your imei number not valid for esim.
location : India
Provider : Jio
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On the box. Or Sim status Eid.
using esim only works on other carriers for the unlocked phones. eid is hidden from verizon versions. you can try to remove the physical sim on those. and also most the big carriers support it. it was originally for iphones but they have problems with theirs. mine works great on tmobile. tmobile, sprint, verizon and at&t support it. i had to call in three times till the last rep just did it. if you have to explain it, the rep doesnt know what they are doing. call back and get a rep that knows what is up.
I have just flased Android Q DP1. Tapping on "add carrier", no QR code scanner is shown. It jumps to an error page directly. May I confirm if everyone has the same issue?
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On the box. Or Sim status Eid.
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Thank you. For me showing unknown. But I got long esim number from box.
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y2kbugleung said:
I have just flased Android Q DP1. Tapping on "add carrier", no QR code scanner is shown. It jumps to an error page directly. May I confirm if everyone has the same issue?
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I got this error
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Esim experience.

Hello,
I attempted to activate esim on t-mobile postpaid that did not go anywhere even though others have activated esim on pixel 3 before the t-mobile ban on postpaid accounts. T-mobile has stopped enabling esim on postpaid accounts for unknown reasons. It only enables esim on certain prepaid accounts and only on iphones.
Any other experiences with t-mobile or other carriers?
Confirmed working on Fi.
alphahere said:
Hello,
I attempted to activate esim on t-mobile postpaid that did not go anywhere even though others have activated esim on pixel 3 before the t-mobile ban on postpaid accounts. T-mobile has stopped enabling esim on postpaid accounts for unknown reasons. It only enables esim on certain prepaid accounts and only on iphones.
Any other experiences with t-mobile or other carriers?
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T-Mobile requires you use there app for esim. The iPhone is the only one that supports it at the Momment
I have T-Mobile and I was able to get the eSim activated on the 3a Xl . All I did was tell them I wanted to do a sim card swap and I provided the EID number. Took them a few minutes and they were done. BTW this was on a Postpaid account.
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I have T-Mobile and I was able to get the eSim activated on the 3a Xl . All I did was tell them I wanted to do a sim card swap and I provided the EID number. Took them a few minutes and they were done. BTW this was on a Postpaid account.
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Phone call or chat? I had no luck with chat.
Did you use the full esim number - that is a very long number. Trying to duplicate your effort.
Thanks
alphahere said:
Hello,
I attempted to activate esim on t-mobile postpaid that did not go anywhere even though others have activated esim on pixel 3 before the t-mobile ban on postpaid accounts. T-mobile has stopped enabling esim on postpaid accounts for unknown reasons. It only enables esim on certain prepaid accounts and only on iphones.
Any other experiences with t-mobile or other carriers?
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called t-mobile and gave them the full esim number. Then uses this guide. Works great!
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/a4507u/esim_works_heres_how_to_activate/
I got it activated on my Pixel 3a XL through chat. They asked me why I was changing sims, and I just told them I wanted to try out esim. They said ok and did the swap. I'm postpaid.
It's easier through chat because of the long EID number.
reddv1 said:
I got it activated on my Pixel 3a XL through chat. They asked me why I was changing sims, and I just told them I wanted to try out esim. They said ok and did the swap. I'm postpaid.
It's easier through chat because of the long EID number.
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I guess I've had really bad luck because I have not been able to get esim activated with chat twice. That's the way it goes we'll try again. It is hit and miss.
Thanks guys for the information. Did another chat this morning asking for sim activation. Did not mention esim. Completed in about 2 minutes did not even have to reboot my phone. Nice. I can use the physical sim slot for something else now.
alphahere said:
Thanks guys for the information. Did another chat this morning asking for sim activation. Did not mention esim. Completed in about 2 minutes did not even have to reboot my phone. Nice. I can use the physical sim slot for something else now.
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Yep! Throw in a micro sd card! ?????
seniorstew said:
Yep! Throw in a micro sd card! ??
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Generally curious as I am new to the Android side of things. What can you use the SIM slot for if you do esim? What is the benefit outside of saying you don't need a physical SIM?
teegraves58 said:
Generally curious as I am new to the Android side of things. What can you use the SIM slot for if you do esim? What is the benefit outside of saying you don't need a physical SIM?
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I use an ATT MVNO Sim when I am not in a t-mobile area which is rare. I don't need two phones any more. One can do the same for the latest iPhone.
Actually there are other phones that have two sims like one plus, but two sim phones are rare in the USA but common in other countries. It has to do with the carriers. It would really nice if this feature discussed on the link below is included in android Q.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...s-half-baked-dual-sim-support-to-the-pixel-3/
So two sims phones hopefully will become the norm in the USA since iPhone has this option and everyone copies Apple. Anyway I could be wrong but I think the Pixel had the esim before the iPhone.
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Yep! Throw in a micro sd card! ?????
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That would be nice! Aint going to happen!
I'm self employed and having dual sim is huge for me, no more having to carry two phone is big. This implementation sucks compared to real dual sim where you can have both active but it's still ahead of packing two phones around.
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I use an ATT MVNO Sim when I am not in a t-mobile area which is rare. I don't need two phones any more. One can do the same for the latest iPhone.
Actually there are other phones that have two sims like one plus, but two sim phones are rare in the USA but common in other countries. It has to do with the carriers. It would really nice if this feature discussed on the link below is included in android Q.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...s-half-baked-dual-sim-support-to-the-pixel-3/
So two sims phones hopefully will become the norm in the USA since iPhone has this option and everyone copies Apple. Anyway I could be wrong but I think the Pixel had the esim before the iPhone.
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So at the moment, does your Pixel have DSDS capability? And if not (or before you enabled that functionality), are you at least able to take advantage of the physical sim slot by selecting it under network settings as the preferred option when you want to use the ATT network rather than the esim?
I had been using OnePlus phones with their dual SIM functionality for a long time by always keeping a T-Mobile SIM in one while using my China Mobile SIM in the other during my frequent trips into China. This enables me to keep a local number and avoid the internet censorship that is increasingly prevalent is most areas of the country.
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So at the moment, does your Pixel have DSDS capability? And if not (or before you enabled that functionality), are you at least able to take advantage of the physical sim slot by selecting it under network settings as the preferred option when you want to use the ATT network rather than the esim?
I had been using OnePlus phones with their dual SIM functionality for a long time by always keeping a T-Mobile SIM in one while using my China Mobile SIM in the other during my frequent trips into China. This enables me to keep a local number and avoid the internet censorship that is increasingly prevalent is most areas of the country.
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https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...s-half-baked-dual-sim-support-to-the-pixel-3/
Also. Currently using dual SIM in China. You will need to do the following to make network work reliable with all apps. This is a problem with pixel phones.
https://www.evil42.com/index.php/archives/17/
I had this problem when I arrived in China. Now everything works great after the above modifications.
alphahere said:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...s-half-baked-dual-sim-support-to-the-pixel-3/
Also. Currently using dual SIM in China. You will need to do the following to make network work reliable with all apps. This is a problem with pixel phones.
https://www.evil42.com/index.php/archives/17/
I had this problem when I arrived in China. Now everything works great after the above modifications.
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Thanks for replying. However, I didn't really get an answer to what I was looking for. I had also previously read the article in Android Police and I know what DSDS is. My previous OnePlus operated as such. The article suggests that DSDS is no longer an option unless you elected it in an earlier beta release. HOWEVER, I only want to know whether you are able to choose one or the other between your eSIM and your physical SIM slot? You will not get both signals at the same time. I understand that. But I'm just interested to see if I can elect via Settings to choose either the eSIM or a separate SIM card and use that one only.
With respect to the contents of the evil42.com article, I fortunately don't have those problems. Thanks for your help.
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Thanks for replying. However, I didn't really get an answer to what I was looking for. I had also previously read the article in Android Police and I know what DSDS is. My previous OnePlus operated as such. The article suggests that DSDS is no longer an option unless you elected it in an earlier beta release. HOWEVER, I only want to know whether you are able to choose one or the other between your eSIM and your physical SIM slot? You will not get both signals at the same time. I understand that. But I'm just interested to see if I can elect via Settings to choose either the eSIM or a separate SIM card and use that one only.
With respect to the contents of the evil42.com article, I fortunately don't have those problems. Thanks for your help.
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Yes you can switch carrier without reboot.
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Yes you can switch carrier without reboot.
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Thank you for confirming!

Google Pixel 4 Dual SIM Support

Is it the same as Pixel 3a? DSDS? or DSDA as per rumor in Feb https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-4-dual-sim-rumor/ ?
I found this incomplete doc from T-Mobile eSIM settings: Google Pixel 4. It mentioned '10 profile'. Would this a doc copied from iPhone and it is not completed?
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-41557
louiskkchan said:
Is it the same as Pixel 3a? DSDS? or DSDA as per rumor in Feb https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-4-dual-sim-rumor/ ?
I found this incomplete doc from T-Mobile eSIM settings: Google Pixel 4. It mentioned '10 profile'. Would this a doc copied from iPhone and it is not completed?
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-41557
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Same as the 3a. That's a very old article when they were talking about DSDS on the P3 which never came to be with one IMEI. As for DSDA here's the quote from the first article which should help clarify it for you. The P4 does not have two radios either.
Lastly, there’s Dual SIM, Dual Active (DSDA), in which both SIM slots can be actively used for calls, texts, or data simultaneously. Although the Pixel 3 doesn’t have the hardware to support DSDA (it lacks a second radio)....
Yes, the Pixel 4 supports DSDS.
How many IMEI provisioned on pixel 3a? Android police have a post showing 2 IMEI labeled on pixel 4 XL retail box.
The 3a has two, it was updated to DSDS in software a little while back.
FWIW, there is an article on Ars about how Google is going to not only support DSDS on the P4s, but actually enable them if you're on Fi (I am).
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/10/google-fi-will-soon-connect-you-to-two-lte-networks-at-once/
I pre-ordered my Flame through Fi, 'financing' it over 2 years, and it arrived today. As soon as I opened it, I popped the instructions, and this is what it says in there:
It works, I activated it with my T-Mobile physical SIM and Project Fi eSIM. I was very excited to finally have this for about 2 hours, then I found out it broke my visual voicemail. WHYYYY GOOGLE WHYYY must you always ruin everything with some bizarre quirk?
mdmogren said:
It works, I activated it with my T-Mobile physical SIM and Project Fi eSIM. I was very excited to finally have this for about 2 hours, then I found out it broke my visual voicemail. WHYYYY GOOGLE WHYYY must you always ruin everything with some bizarre quirk?
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I'll bet it broke RCS too.
Sh...... you're probably right.
It has to do with carrier provisioning. With most dual SIM phones there's an option where you can choose which SIM is used for voice, data and texts. You need to make sure your line with visual voicemail is utilizing the same service for data also. There is same issue with MMS which will hinder any group text capabilities. I have been trying to figure it out for years. Inhave found best use scenario for me is to keep everything on primary line and switch to data on a need only basis with second SIM. Voice and texts will still work with second SIM whenever needed.
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It has to do with carrier provisioning. With most dual SIM phones there's an option where you can choose which SIM is used for voice, data and texts. You need to make sure your line with visual voicemail is utilizing the same service for data also. There is same issue with MMS which will hinder any group text capabilities. I have been trying to figure it out for years. Inhave found best use scenario for me is to keep everything on primary line and switch to data on a need only basis with second SIM. Voice and texts will still work with second SIM whenever needed.
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You've had dual SIM phones for years? Which ones, just curious. Were any of them esim?
eSIM is brand new, so never had dual with it. This might actually be the first device with both. I think my first dual SIM was Huawei Mate 8 in 2015.
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eSIM is brand new, so never had dual with it. This might actually be the first device with both. I think my first dual SIM was Huawei Mate 8 in 2015.
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Yeah dual physical sim has been around for a while mostly outside the US. I don't use visual VM so I can't attest to that. But dsds breaks RCS no matter how you have it set up under network settings. Very frustrating but that's on my 3a. Hopefully on Thursday that will change with my P4. Not holding out a ton of hope though.
It may *not* break for people like me, who use Fi and will have it provisioned for DSDS using physical SIM as well as eSIM, but both using Fi as the provider.
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It may *not* break for people like me, who use Fi and will have it provisioned for DSDS using physical SIM as well as eSIM, but both using Fi as the provider.
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That is entirely possible. But you won't know that for some months yet. In the meantime Fi with Verizon physical is kaput.
bobby janow said:
That is entirely possible. But you won't know that for some months yet. In the meantime Fi with Verizon physical is kaput.
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Wait, so you can't do Verizon physical with Fi esim?
rester555 said:
Wait, so you can't do Verizon physical with Fi esim?
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Pretty sure, and I am also sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but Verizon branded (bought from Verizon, or anywhere else as a Verizon variant) have the eSIM disabled by Verizon.
Using an unlocked version on the Verizon network should work fine.
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Wait, so you can't do Verizon physical with Fi esim?
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We were talking about RCS at the time, not DSDS. You couldn't get RCS working with Fi and Verizon but now it's been figured out. Sort of. What I have found is that if I change everything over (sms, voice, data) to Fi then reboot I can get RCS with either Fi or Verizon and even change back to Verizon as the defaults. But if I reboot with Vzw as default I lose RCS. I have to go back and redo it all, reboot and then it sticks until the next reboot.
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Pretty sure, and I am also sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but Verizon branded (bought from Verizon, or anywhere else as a Verizon variant) have the eSIM disabled by Verizon.
Using an unlocked version on the Verizon network should work fine.
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eSim was disabled on the P3 and the 3a (XL too) on Verizon branded phones. Someone said a P4 / XL Verizon bought phone can use the eSim just not with Verizon. I've not seen actual confirmation of that, only one person. So if anyone bought the P4 / XL from a Verizon store or online please post if eSim is available with another provider.
Well I have bought an unlocked phone from Fi and went to Verizon to get a physical sim and got it working. Loving it so far, but can confirm that the RCS issue works like @bobby janow stated. I can't get it to work with Verizon default after reboot. Has to be fi to get it to work until next reboot.
Can you have a different ringtone for each line/SIM?

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