[Help]Overheating issues - Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I just bought this used Z3 D6603 and everytime i use it for about 2 minutes, the top back of the phone starts to heat fast af. I tried to use cpu z to monitor the cpu speed but it was about 300mhz so I dont think that its the processor that is causing the phone to overheat. Or maybe is it the kernel?

Flash a different firmware or update it.
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My device overheats when making photos.

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Back panel heating

Hello guys,
Guys post your battery temp during normal use,gaming,heavy app use plz..m facing heating issues and want to compare with other Xperia L's
This is during my normal use with 3G which heats upto 40 sometimes
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Normal Usage using Wifi
Normal usage with wifi:
After playing around 10 minutes of Asphalt 8 on High settings:
The CPU was at 50 degress but it goes to 48 when I took ss.
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Normal usage with wifi:
After playing around 10 minutes of Asphalt 8 on High settings:
The CPU was at 50 degress but it goes to 48 when I took ss.
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Mine goes 42 degrees with gaming like FIFA12 etc and in 3G use it stays around 35-40 and with wifi 34-38..are this temperatures normal?
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I cannot said what the temperature is when I use 3G as my data package is out for this month already, but I think the temperatures provided by you are normal. Like when you are playing Fifa the CPU is cooler than mine. I think they are normal. Most of modern phone's have heating issue during playing.
damian01211 said:
I cannot said what the temperature is when I use 3G as my data package is out for this month already, but I think the temperatures provided by you are normal. Like when you are playing Fifa the CPU is cooler than mine. I think they are normal. Most of modern phone's have heating issue during playing.
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Hmm but i rarely play games ..also sometimes temperatures rises during charging period with moderate use while charging and battery temperature reaches 43 degrees..is this harmful? Well i think its harmful..
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Raj joshi said:
Hmm but i rarely play games ..also sometimes temperatures rises during charging period with moderate use while charging and battery temperature reaches 43 degrees..is this harmful? Well i think its harmful..
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Well, don't think so. My phone also heats up during charging when I use it. I'm not sure if this work or not but you of course when you wan't can enable option that Nexus 4 has. It's like when a phone reach certain temperature a cpu/gpu clock is lower to prevent battery overheated.
I don't have it enable as mostly I don't play or do anything more stressful that will make phone hot.
damian01211 said:
Well, don't think so. My phone also heats up during charging when I use it. I'm not sure if this work or not but you of course when you wan't can enable option that Nexus 4 has. It's like when a phone reach certain temperature a cpu/gpu clock is lower to prevent battery overheated.
I don't have it enable as mostly I don't play or do anything more stressful that will make phone hot.
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Are you pointing towards frequency lock?
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Raj joshi said:
Hmm but i rarely play games ..also sometimes temperatures rises during charging period with moderate use while charging and battery temperature reaches 43 degrees..is this harmful? Well i think its harmful..
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dude you have a fit right...oh you sold it, still that device was about half as powerful okay 1/3 rd yet the battery temp with 0 activity and mostly in deep sleep is at 30 C.
now xperia L is way more powerful so should get a tad bit hotter too right(of course that's based on CPU activity) try it put is down for say two hours no charging , no nothing so that in deep sleep(lowest freq) also no 3g(that has its own daemon that eats cpu power i.e. causes cpu to work and hence battery drain and heat). wifi is okay(stable connection hence minimal cpu usage as no reconnections).
now check yor battery temp should be around 35C so your device is fine.
all this is based on stock heat and power management cant comment on custom kernels.
to check battery temp via device(no app) use code *#*#4636#*#*
Dark Passenger said:
dude you have a fit right...oh you sold it, still that device was about half as powerful okay 1/3 rd yet the battery temp with 0 activity and mostly in deep sleep is at 30 C.
now xperia L is way more powerful so should get a tad bit hotter too right(of course that's based on CPU activity) try it put is down for say two hours no charging , no nothing so that in deep sleep(lowest freq) also no 3g(that has its own daemon that eats cpu power i.e. causes cpu to work and hence battery drain and heat). wifi is okay(stable connection hence minimal cpu usage as no reconnections).
now check yor battery temp should be around 35C so your device is fine.
all this is based on stock heat and power management cant comment on custom kernels.
to check battery temp via device(no app) use code *#*#4636#*#*
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Yup bro i sold my gfit...and yeah you are correct my battery temp reached 30 degrees wihout any data connection any charging..
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Raj joshi said:
Yup bro i sold my gfit...and yeah you are correct my battery temp reached 30 degrees wihout any data connection any charging..
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if you are on a custom kernel the best practice is to uv and NOT oc also change the governor to Interactive since thats far better than performance.(spimply put performance goes to top cpu freq even when not required and slowly scales down while interactive scales up fast and down fast at user touch events) for heating and basic phone wear and tear purposes.
and one of the main reason along with more ram(i mean lower bloat hence more free ram) that i want a cyanogen mod ROM.
Before and after playing candy crush.lol
When charging,it will up to 37-39 degrees
Qualcomm makes the MSM8230 chip that you see in L, there are 4 different "types" based on how it meets their quality standards. These are Slow, Nominal and Fast (Faster is on Higher end chips like APQ8064). The main difference IIRC between these types is how stable each can handle undervolting. CPUs that are "Fast" for example come pre-configured at a lower nominal voltage than a "Nominal" type CPU, and more so than a "Slow" type. IIRC, there's like only a -50mV difference between Fast and Slow out of the box, however Fast CPUs should be able to handle lower voltages than Slow-type.
This may explain why some people complain higher temp than others on account of same tasks. Although there can be other reasons. I'm not quite sure.
To find out what binned CPU you have, I recommend the following:
YOU MUST BE ROOTED! And installed busybox
1) Install Terminal Emulator
2) Reboot your phone
3) Open Terminal Emulator, and type:
su
dmesg | grep PVS
(if you don't see anything, try it.immediately after fresh reboot)
For example I've fast binned cpu
So basically, far as I understand I got Fast CPU which isn't going to be as hot as the Slow type due to lower voltage ?
Dark Passenger said:
if you are on a custom kernel the best practice is to uv and NOT oc also change the governor to Interactive since thats far better than performance.(spimply put performance goes to top cpu freq even when not required and slowly scales down while interactive scales up fast and down fast at user touch events) for heating and basic phone wear and tear purposes.
and one of the main reason along with more ram(i mean lower bloat hence more free ram) that i want a cyanogen mod ROM.
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Bro no interactive governor present in stock extended kernel v3 :/ any other tips? @Dark Passenger
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Raj joshi said:
Bro no interactive governor present in stock extended kernel v3 :/ any other tips? @Dark Passenger
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then go for ondemand the performance might be a tad bit slower than preformance governor but your battery life should be better along with the heating...also no oc.
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Ya bro i also face the same..when i use my phone during charge time..and normally it is about 35-40. @Dark Passenger what are stats about your XL? Can u post it here?
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I have a fast binned CPU
The result number shows the characteristic of cpu binned (AFAIK) Source : http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/qualcomm-cpu-binning-is-yours-slow-nominal-fast-or-faster.2842/page-5
1 : slow
2: normal
3: fast
4: faster

[fix] cpu overheat.

Root or device and keep frequency from 350 to below 710
Don't play games more than 20 min
CPU overheat causing hang and bootloop problems
Use WiFi than any 2g or 3g network.
That's all folks.
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scorpio_K said:
Root or device and keep frequency from 350 to below 710
Don't play games more than 20 min
CPU overheat causing hang and bootloop problems
Use WiFi than any 2g or 3g network.
That's all folks.
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Well, actually no.
1. Turning down frequency won't help because cpu1 is always governed by userspace. This is due to mpdecision.
2. What, seriously? When an object does work, it loses equivalent work as to validate law of conservation of energy (heat in this case).
All android devices heat. It all boils down to chipset and device chassis. Thankfully, L's chipset is 28nm. This provides space to fit more transistors in a particularly same die size. Thus, more performance and less heat.
Similarly, poorly engineered device cabinet can obstruct air inflow.
3. maybe. I don't have WiFi router at home.
Battery life is infact affected by:
1. User's common sense
2. irregular charging periods
3. Kernel
4. No of apps causing wakelocks
5. Instruction set, chipset
6. Stupid OEM's Tweaks
7. Talking about apple
Not battery life heat problems man!!!!
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I know a fix. Just install a fan on to the phone. Seriously dude, phone heating up ocassionally is okay.
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The phone is heating up insanely after I upgrade it to 4.2.2 firmware! I guess we have to wait till Sony release source to create customs kernels & Roms!
I don't have that problem at 4.2.2. It's still the same as it was before update. Maybe phone heats up a bit quicker then before on 3G but I don't use it a lot.

Note 3 N900 4.4.2 heating and lagging discussion

Hello everybody,
I opened this thread so anyone experiencing this problem (overheating and lagging in heavy games such as: Real Racing 3, The Amazing Spiderman 2, even Candy Crush, Asphalt 8 and so on) can discuss it here and maybe we'll get a better perspective of the problem, and maybe find a solution for that.
The Problem :
The phone would heat up, sometimes to the point I can't touch the phone, and the game FPS drops significantly (the games start to lag).
It happens for me after about 5-8 min of gameplay.
From a little google search, some users reported that the problem was caused by the constant running of the IndexService(this process is responsible for Indexing files both on the internal and external sd card) process, some users formatted the sdcard and reported that it has stopped, some users reported that the problem is still there, some users replaced the sdcard with another.
For me, I'm still trying to figure out if the sdcard is the problem by running some monitoring apps like System Panel Pro, and waiting for tomorrow to see which process/apps uses the CPU more than the others.
For anyone commenting this post, I would like you to ask to state if you are on a stock or custom rom, as well as the kernel.
Hopefully, we can identify the cause and help the Note 3 community and finally enjoy the full power of our AWESOME phone.
Happy discussion!
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From my own experience, the cpu clock and the brightness of the screen has most to do with overheating. I have the same problem on a rootex X-note v13 (and all other xnote versions before 13), the cpu temp would reach 60 degrees celsius after 5-10 ninutes of gameplay on max brightness and stock cpu clock. BUT if I were to lower brightness to minimum and lower the cpu clock to 1.7ghz (left it at 1.7ghz since then out of laziness), it would last at least 25 minutes before reaching the same temperatures. Still, I would be curious if there is any software trigger that creates this overheat, not just the cpu and brightness. I had my phone unrooted for a very short period of time so i cannot really say, but it did feel like stock unrooted did not overheat so fast. Or maybe it was just a placebo, I do not know
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raied115 said:
Hello everybody,
I opened this thread so anyone experiencing this problem (overheating and lagging in heavy games such as: Real Racing 3, The Amazing Spiderman 2, even Candy Crush, Asphalt 8 and so on) can discuss it here and maybe we'll get a better perspective of the problem, and maybe find a solution for that.
The Problem :
The phone would heat up, sometimes to the point I can't touch the phone, and the game FPS drops significantly (the games start to lag).
It happens for me after about 5-8 min of gameplay.
From a little google search, some users reported that the problem was caused by the constant running of the IndexService(this process is responsible for Indexing files both on the internal and external sd card) process, some users formatted the sdcard and reported that it has stopped, some users reported that the problem is still there, some users replaced the sdcard with another.
For me, I'm still trying to figure out if the sdcard is the problem by running some monitoring apps like System Panel Pro, and waiting for tomorrow to see which process/apps uses the CPU more than the others.
For anyone commenting this post, I would like you to ask to state if you are on a stock or custom rom, as well as the kernel.
Hopefully, we can identify the cause and help the Note 3 community and finally enjoy the full power of our AWESOME phone.
Happy discussion!
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Not sure what could cause that problem but i cant confirm that i dont have the problem, i usualy play RR3 and Clash of clans for long periods of time, 2+ hours and my phone wont heat up at all. i do have the lastest RU official firmaware do, but even with the other ones i never got that problem, i use to hate my s4 for that but i cant be happy enoght with my note 3.
posedatull said:
From my own experience, the cpu clock and the brightness of the screen has most to do with overheating. I have the same problem on a rootex X-note v13 (and all other xnote versions before 13), the cpu temp would reach 60 degrees celsius after 5-10 ninutes of gameplay on max brightness and stock cpu clock. BUT if I were to lower brightness to minimum and lower the cpu clock to 1.7ghz (left it at 1.7ghz since then out of laziness), it would last at least 25 minutes before reaching the same temperatures. Still, I would be curious if there is any software trigger that creates this overheat, not just the cpu and brightness. I had my phone unrooted for a very short period of time so i cannot really say, but it did feel like stock unrooted did not overheat so fast. Or maybe it was just a placebo, I do not know
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sFranKv said:
Not sure what could cause that problem but i cant confirm that i dont have the problem, i usualy play RR3 and Clash of clans for long periods of time, 2+ hours and my phone wont heat up at all. i do have the lastest RU official firmaware do, but even with the other ones i never got that problem, i use to hate my s4 for that but i cant be happy enoght with my note 3.
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I will be sending the device for repairment to see what the problem is, and will report back here
Maybe there is a problem with some Exynos devices ...
Will be interesting to find out what's the cause for the problem with our high-end phone.
Update: installing other ROM + Factory reset in that ROM gave the exact same effect: overheating.
Disabling DVFS completely fixed this issue for me.
Either use the DVFS diabler app or Wanam exposed to do this.
FYI I have the n9005 so this may not work for you.
I think everyone has the hot screen issue but for me it seems to happen in certain games only.
This isn't limited to 4.4.2 either, it happened in 4.3. It really seems to point to a software issue rather than hardware.
The weird thing is its the upper portion that gets hot on my phone while the battery portion is just normal.
I have temperature software on mine and for what it's worth I've never had a warning about overheating yet.
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JJbdoggg said:
Disabling DVFS completely fixed this issue for me.
Either use the DVFS diabler app or Wanam exposed to do this.
FYI I have the n9005 so this may not work for you.
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evo4g63t said:
I think everyone has the hot screen issue but for me it seems to happen in certain games only.
This isn't limited to 4.4.2 either, it happened in 4.3. It really seems to point to a software issue rather than hardware.
The weird thing is its the upper portion that gets hot on my phone while the battery portion is just normal.
I have temperature software on mine and for what it's worth I've never had a warning about overheating yet.
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Disabling DVFS does not Solve the problem unfortunately...
The heating is where the cpu is...
It gets to the point I can't touch my phone...
I've tried different games and it kinda happens in every single heavy games... It is very annoying that I have such a powerful phone and I can't fully use it as I please...
Will try to send it to Samsung and see what they will do...
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I managed to solve the problem !
Opting out google's location based ads in Google settings , disabling Samsung DVFS , formatting the phone and SD Card (with data included), installing a custom Rom (Dr.ketan K7 ROM with some options from the AROMA installation) ,
All that has managed to solve the problem .
Now the phone just get warm , as I think it should be for such a thin and powerful device.
I hope that now everyone that have the problem can solve it and enjoy his awesome phone!
Have a great day guys!
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What CpuTemp is normal while phone is being used?
My temp fluctuates between 35-45 C (95 F -113F) while web browsing, using Tapatalk etc.
Is it something abnormal ?
My top 2 battery drains are Android OS & Android System.
Thanks
Mine overheats aswell especially on YouTube (56 celsius). Few times I discovered the minimum CPU frequency change to 1.5 ghz.
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If you have SD card, it might be causing heat and lag issues, so try to remove it then try phone, if yes then format it, if its not the cause then perhaps you have an app causing problem, so do full wipe from recovery mode, after that try phone for couple of days without downloading any app.
The problem was DVFS. SD has nothing to do with battery drain
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cornelito said:
What CpuTemp is normal while phone is being used?
My temp fluctuates between 35-45 C (95 F -113F) while web browsing, using Tapatalk etc.
Is it something abnormal ?
My top 2 battery drains are Android OS & Android System.
Thanks
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The temp seems about right.
My phone got up to 80C when I tried to play it once for more than 10 min and then it just did a reboot...
Within the Android OS and Android System services there are a lot of processes going on... You should try and pin point the exact process that causes Android OS and Android System to be active.
I'm here if you need anything else!
Jack Barrett said:
Mine overheats aswell especially on YouTube (56 celsius). Few times I discovered the minimum CPU frequency change to 1.5 ghz.
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darkshaft said:
If you have SD card, it might be causing heat and lag issues, so try to remove it then try phone, if yes then format it, if its not the cause then perhaps you have an app causing problem, so do full wipe from recovery mode, after that try phone for couple of days without downloading any app.
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Jack Barrett said:
The problem was DVFS. SD has nothing to do with battery drain
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That might just do the trick
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I use no name Rom for n900w8 seems to solve any heat issue I've had
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BeFore the format check this. after you will not want to Format fix Note 3 getting overheat -14 Reasons and answers

Phone heat

Hello I have noticed with the new update my phone heats up a lot during normal use.
This never happened with the 4.4.2 nor the 4.4.3
Is this an issue that many have dealth with? And will Google address this as well?
by the way Im on stock
Heat is normal. If you feel as though it is abnormally hot you should download GSAM or another app which measures temp and post your results.
vicorama said:
Hello I have noticed with the new update my phone heats up a lot during normal use.
This never happened with the 4.4.2 nor the 4.4.3
Is this an issue that many have dealth with? And will Google address this as well?
by the way Im on stock
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Could it just be warm weather? Even when idle, the phone can never be cooler than the ambient temperature around it.
Somewhat normal. Custom kernel's can help...
Its Normal, all high middle models of smartphones getting heat temp, if temp is to high CPU thermal throttling cut down actual frequency
Wysłane z mojego Nexus 5

Cpu is heating

My problem is that the cpu temp usually above 50 C even whiout use and sometimes jumps to above 60
Is that normal?
And does it affects the device hardware especially I don't see lag usually so I think it don't affect the performance
Thanks
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No answer anyone
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salahfathi said:
My problem is that the cpu temp usually above 50 C even whiout use and sometimes jumps to above 60
Is that normal?
And does it affects the device hardware especially I don't see lag usually so I think it don't affect the performance
Thanks
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The overheating is abnormal, unless you are performing very intensive tasks such as heavy gaming. Also, if you keep it in the sun for an extended period of time it will get hot and maybe get damaged. If it continues to bother you get it replaced.

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