Mate 9 Development - Huawei Mate 9 Questions & Answers

so im deciding on whether to buy a LG G6 or Pixel XL2, the problem is that i prefer a phone with 16:9 aspect ratio and hopefully a lot of ram. my problem is that only huawei offers a choice and thats a problem due to EMUI and the low development community.
i dont want to rigger emui fans but not everyone is a fan. many of us prefer roms such as CypherOS or paranoid android. since it seems that those will never pop up on these types of devices, is there any chance that the mate 9 will get AOSP?
thanks to google treble booting AOSP is a requirement. so, is there a chance that eventually an AOSP mate 9 build might popup here?

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thanks to google treble booting AOSP is a requirement. so, is there a chance that eventually an AOSP mate 9 build might popup here?
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Chances are always there, but Mate 9 will be 1 years old in November. Many talented devs are watching new and fresh devices.

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lineage os for mate 9 ?

Hi
Don't know if anyone has asked this question but is any dev or the lineage team itself working on a native version of lineage is 14.1 for the mate 9 ?
Havnt bought the phone yet but if its getting lineage is I will definitely buy it.
All answers appreciated ,
Thanks.
Hali666 said:
Hi
Don't know if anyone has asked this question but is any dev or the lineage team itself working on a native version of lineage is 14.1 for the mate 9 ?
Havnt bought the phone yet but if its getting lineage is I will definitely buy it.
All answers appreciated ,
Thanks.
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Hi,
Huawei won't release the kernel, so developing a ROM such as LAOS i quite difficult. So no develepment yet.
CodeRR said:
Hi,
Huawei won't release the kernel, so developing a ROM such as LAOS i quite difficult. So no develepment yet.
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any chances are they release kernel later?
hi
linage os will be there
version 14.1
android version 7.1.1
release first months of 2017
Source : lineagerom.com
greetz benji
Its coming soon!
Official source says first half of 2017. See official info here ===> http://lineagerom.com/huawei-mate-9-lineage-nougat-update/
Interesting news maybe if it's out I unlock my bootloader and go for it :good: now still locked and on stock
GraveDigger176 said:
Interesting news maybe if it's out I unlock my bootloader and go for it :good: now still locked and on stock
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Agreed, I'm not touching mine until official LOS drops. The stock rom is surprisingly good, tons of great features. Huawei did a fantastic job on this phone!
DanDroidOS said:
Agreed, I'm not touching mine until official LOS drops. The stock rom is surprisingly good, tons of great features. Huawei did a fantastic job on this phone!
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Yap absolutely, Huawei did a really great job on this phone :good:
Sent from my Huawei MATE 9 using XDA Labs
DanDroidOS said:
Agreed, I'm not touching mine until official LOS drops. The stock rom is surprisingly good, tons of great features. Huawei did a fantastic job on this phone!
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Hi. Agree about sticking with stock for now. Is there a link that describes in detail what features are on Lineage roms. I've looked around and all I find are download sites but little description of rom itself. Thanks!
My opinion is also this is the best stock rom i ever used!
mscion said:
Hi. Agree about sticking with stock for now. Is there a link that describes in detail what features are on Lineage roms. I've looked around and all I find are download sites but little description of rom itself. Thanks!
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hi
same a cm 14.1
greetz benji
mscion said:
Hi. Agree about sticking with stock for now. Is there a link that describes in detail what features are on Lineage roms. I've looked around and all I find are download sites but little description of rom itself. Thanks!
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I would look here ====> https://github.com/lineageos
I'm kind of surprised that there isn't any builds or projects going seeing as how Huawei actually released the sources. For many less than popular phones that I've had in the past, not having source codes and drivers was usually the problem. Sadly on this phone, the problem is that so very few people especially devs know about it's excellence Our best and pretty much only hope is something getting ported over from the OpenKirin projects on other Kirin powered phones.
I do agree with the others though that the stock software on this phone is very good, fast, lasts long and isn't obnoxiously skinned liked TouchWiz and LG phones. So it's not the end of the world. I do hope the Mate 10 takes of though seeing as how great the 9 was, I'm all over a 10 when it drops relatively soon!!! :fingers-crossed:
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I'm kind of surprised that there isn't any builds or projects going seeing as how Huawei actually released the sources. For many less than popular phones that I've had in the past, not having source codes and drivers was usually the problem. Sadly on this phone, the problem is that so very few people especially devs know about it's excellence Our best and pretty much only hope is something getting ported over from the OpenKirin projects on other Kirin powered phones.
I do agree with the others though that the stock software on this phone is very good, fast, lasts long and isn't obnoxiously skinned liked TouchWiz and LG phones. So it's not the end of the world. I do hope the Mate 10 takes of though seeing as how great the 9 was, I'm all over a 10 when it drops relatively soon!!! :fingers-crossed:
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The problem is that the camera doesn't work with the sources from huawei. :/
benjmiester said:
I'm kind of surprised that there isn't any builds or projects going seeing as how Huawei actually released the sources. For many less than popular phones that I've had in the past, not having source codes and drivers was usually the problem. Sadly on this phone, the problem is that so very few people especially devs know about it's excellence Our best and pretty much only hope is something getting ported over from the OpenKirin projects on other Kirin powered phones.
I do agree with the others though that the stock software on this phone is very good, fast, lasts long and isn't obnoxiously skinned liked TouchWiz and LG phones. So it's not the end of the world. I do hope the Mate 10 takes of though seeing as how great the 9 was, I'm all over a 10 when it drops relatively soon!!! :fingers-crossed:
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I think this is the problem, HM9 have a great stock ROM, and it is hard to devs to bring something better without compromises.
I tried Mi Mix last few days with different ROMS, and now I'm coming back to HM9 because, it is a better phone overall, the software is very fast and responsive and have little tweaks that are usefull, such as blocking internet access per app (wifi and carrier). The camera software is also very good in my opinion.
I just read that there's a new Reserrection Remix (aosp based rom) for Honor 9. It's the same Kirin 960 chipset.
From https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-9/development/rom-t3654876
Kernel GPLv2 compliant : This custom ROM, uses a stock EMUI 5.1 (B130) kernel image !
Very sad that there is no Lineage OS, even that now the kernel source is available.
I just bought a Mate 9 L29 second hand (can't take it back now) and I am very disappointed by that damn ugly (G)UI called EMUI 5.1.
I had a EMUI 4 device in the past and I made a MIUI like theme for it combining icons and existing themes. Then I had some Xiaomi devices, and MIUI really is eye candy.
Seeing the damn ugly EMUI GUI (and all those bull**** themes available) I wish I could have an AOSP or Lineage ROM for it.
The hardware is quite good. Display is OK, SoC is kinda fast and the sound system sounds nice.
So, f**** Huawei for messing up that bad regarding the look and feel of EMUI 5(.1) - I had a look at EMUI 8 - it's damn ugly too.
Shame on the Huawei product design team in that case. They had some UI designer from Apple for EMUI 5 (she quit then), and
I wonder how things could have gone so damn wrong. Have a look at pure Android, MIUI or flyme OS or even ZUI or discontinued IUNI os, that is eye candy.
EMUI makes me wanna vomit.
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t-ryder said:
Very sad that there is no Lineage OS, even that now the kernel source is available.
I just bought a Mate 9 L29 second hand (can't take it back now) and I am very disappointed by that damn ugly (G)UI called EMUI 5.1.
I had a EMUI 4 device in the past and I made a MIUI like theme for it combining icons and existing themes. Then I had some Xiaomi devices, and MIUI really is eye candy.
Seeing the damn ugly EMUI GUI (and all those bull**** themes available) I wish I could have an AOSP or Lineage ROM for it.
The hardware is quite good. Display is OK, SoC is kinda fast and the sound system sounds nice.
So, f**** Huawei for messing up that bad regarding the look and feel of EMUI 5(.1) - I had a look at EMUI 8 - it's damn ugly too.
Shame on the Huawei product design team in that case. They had some UI designer from Apple for EMUI 5 (she quit then), and
I wonder how things could have gone so damn wrong. Have a look at pure Android, MIUI or flyme OS or even ZUI or discontinued IUNI os, that is eye candy.
EMUI makes me wanna vomit.
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Well, sell it or put a different launcher on the damn thing then, that's one good thing about Android, you're always free to change it. I don't like EMUI either so I run the pixel 2 launcher on mine. As far as lineage goes, unless a developer decides to pick it up you're sol, Huawei might have released the general source to the OS but there is a lot of closed source drivers for the hardware that is not released and unless those drivers are open sourced lineage is out of the question except for the individual developer
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Well, sell it or put a different launcher on the damn thing then, that's one good thing about Android, you're always free to change it. I don't like EMUI either so I run the pixel 2 launcher on mine. As far as lineage goes, unless a developer decides to pick it up you're sol, Huawei might have released the general source to the OS but there is a lot of closed source drivers for the hardware that is not released and unless those drivers are open sourced lineage is out of the question except for the individual developer
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What exactly is the problem with the camera in the kernel source released by Huawei?
And how'd you get to know about this, did anyone try to compile the kernel.... or maybe even a rom?
I might try it, but first I want to know this piece of info, to get the picture completed
You can trust me, and if you don't. Just check my profile, I've even made Android 5.1.1 for the S1
So, please give me the needed details, and I might be starting tomorrow
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I have had a quick look, and it looks like the Mate 9 Pro and the Honor 9 uses the exact same rear camera setup (So, both camera's on the back )

Custom ROM for Mate 9 Pro?

There are lots of interesting alt roms for the Mate 9. Has anyone developed (or be willing to develop) a custom rom for thr Pro? Pretty please!
The poor pro is being left behind... I realise this is largely because of limited geographic release but it's a great phone which deserves some attention. I'm not sure how ewsy/difficult it is to adapt the mate 9 custom roms for the Mate 9 pro... Or perhaps there are some Pro owner developers out there.
FYI I'm currently running LON-L29C636B225. Latest version appears to be B229.
Thanks in advance, and apologies if I missed something on this that has been posted already.
Did you tried to install a Mate 9 Rom?
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Did you tried to install a Mate 9 Rom?
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No. I have asked on threads if a mate 9 rom would work on mate 9 pro and generally got a response of no or 'not sure'. Given that the correct region also seems to be important to make these roms work, I really didn't want to risk flashing a mate 9 image on my mate 9 pro in case of bricking. The twrp I flashed is also different from the standard mate 9 version.
I saw that KangVip build a rom for Mate9/pro...
http://club.huawei.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=2698&filter=typeid&typeid=4298
Isn't it just a different screen size/resolution? That shouldn't be a problem software size. I would imagine.
bejam said:
There are lots of interesting alt roms for the Mate 9. Has anyone developed (or be willing to develop) a custom rom for thr Pro? Pretty please!
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you should know that huawei phones will never have many if any custom roms. the few that have custom roms like the honor 8/P9 are loosing interest from the few devs that are trying to build roms. oreo might fix that but like i said, devs are loosing interest fast.
im waiting to see the pixel 2 and the LG v30. those will have great hardware and will have a huge custom rom support. never again huawei!
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you should know that huawei phones will never have many if any custom roms. the few that have custom roms like the honor 8/P9 are loosing interest from the few devs that are trying to build roms. oreo might fix that but like i said, devs are loosing interest fast.
im waiting to see the pixel 2 and the LG v30. those will have great hardware and will have a huge custom rom support. never again huawei!
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Based on your response, why did YOU yourself even bother purchasing a Huawei device when you knew that rom development was going to lack?
I already knew for months before purchasing mine that ROM development was going to be small or basically non existent and I've been a ROM flasher for many many years, this is the first device I've ever own that I didn't have to root or even flash a ROM, seems you're pretty much unsatisfied because you can't flash any custom ROMs compared to other devices
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Based on your response, why did YOU yourself even bother purchasing a Huawei device when you knew that rom development was going to lack?
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my only huawei devices have been the mate 7 which i bought brand new and a gifted bartered honor 5x and honor 8. i got rid 2 of them as soon as i could. the honor 5x is the only one i still have due to it having a snapdragon soc and a big custom rom selection.
had someone warned me about the mate 7 i would have not bought it but lesson learned. as i have stated many times, huawei hardware is great but their software is complete ****! thankfully huawei is becoming less popular on xda due to them going back on their word about providing major updates for 2 years.
to each their own i guess. you can stick with your huawei devices but most will never take hauwei serious for good reasons. LG v30 FTW!!!
droidbot1337 said:
my only huawei devices have been the mate 7 which i bought brand new and a gifted bartered honor 5x and honor 8. i got rid 2 of them as soon as i could. the honor 5x is the only one i still have due to it having a snapdragon soc and a big custom rom selection.
had someone warned me about the mate 7 i would have not bought it but lesson learned. as i have stated many times, huawei hardware is great but their software is complete ****! thankfully huawei is becoming less popular on xda due to them going back on their word about providing major updates for 2 years.
to each their own i guess. you can stick with your huawei devices but most will never take hauwei serious for good reasons. LG v30 FTW!!!
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Little bit of V30 fanboyism there?
EMUI 5.0 has never been a hiccup for me it's infact the best UI I have experienced so far alot better than 4.0.
Sucks to be you, should've done the research if you knew what you were getting yourself into but you learned it the hard way, but each to their own.
I rather have a device that rarely anyone knows about VS a phone or a brand that everyone knows, have fun with your V30, cuz I'm pretty content where I'm at, no need to go batsh** over what ROM has marginally better battery life or what kernel provided better performance or signal strength with modem files. TBH at least some credibility is due for them for actually polishing up EMUI, if they didn't care this brand wouldn't get far ?
Blackball said:
I saw that KangVip build a rom for Mate9/pro...
http://club.huawei.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=2698&filter=typeid&typeid=4298
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Great - I didn't know about this one! The only challenge for me is the Chinese forum. I know I can google transalte but it is still a bit of a struggle - especiall;y to post questions etc.
I was hoping that some of the custom versions for the Mate 9 could easily be adapted for the Pro. I guess the Pro is a mainly Chinese audience. Depsite these ROMs being based on EMUI, I was pleased of late to see that more of them are coming out. Just not for the pro!
I also notice that the kernel source has been released. Although those experimenting are still experiencing some issues with it. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/how-to/kernel-source-t3639912
But hopefully this means renewed iinterest from developes for an ASOP ROM for both mate 9 and the Pro!

LinageOS

Is there someone currently working on LineageOS or what?
and if there is, when will the development finish?
Because I want to buy this phone and I hate EMUI
IDontKnowAnythingAtAll said:
Is there someone currently working on LineageOS or what?
and if there is, when will the development finish?
Because I want to buy this phone and I hate EMUI
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dont bother. i suggest you look elsewhere if custom ROMs is your thing. huawei devices have a very poor custom ROM scene. the only exception is the honor 5x and thats because it has a snapdragon soc.
i suggest you look at the oneplus 5. i too hate emui and wont go near it with a 100m pole. btw, talking **** about emui will get you flamed in huawei forums so watch out. the mi mix 2 is also pretty good.
android 8 might help with custom ROMs but that would still require interest from developers. what kind of features are you looking for in a phone??

Does Developer's Stopped making Roms For Honor 8?

I'm waiting from from 6-7 Months now for a new Rom for Honor 8 and I'm not getting any Information about it. There Are Roms coming out for Redmi note 4 and Lower devices Like Pixel Experience, Lineage15.1. I mean is Redmi Note 4 is better than Honor 8?
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I think they're waiting Oreo for Treble Support.
We are all waiting for Oreo to drop on may, this will give us the opportunity to develop a Treble ROM based on the treble ROM AOSP by phuson. This ROM can be used as a base and it we'll be developed around the rom to make it perfect
Huawei/Honor's software support is pretty awful. I'm using a FRD-L04 and still using the October security update.
Can devs here make anything for the Honor 8 without Huawei releasing code first? I was pretty sure the answer is 'no'?
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Huawei/Honor's software support is pretty awful. I'm using a FRD-L04 and still using the October security update.
Can devs here make anything for the Honor 8 without Huawei releasing code first? I was pretty sure the answer is 'no'?
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The only thing you can do is either wait or buy a new phone (what huawei and honor are actually hoping for).
I figured as much. They make really nice hardware (the design, actual SoC, camera, etc), but won't have a repeat customer with the dreadful software support I've received.
evilpaul13 said:
Huawei/Honor's software support is pretty awful. I'm using a FRD-L04 and still using the October security update.
Can devs here make anything for the Honor 8 without Huawei releasing code first? I was pretty sure the answer is 'no'?
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Honor 8's SoC is not like other phone with snapdragon SoC that can be ported to latest custom roms.
I think that with Oreo to arrive between April - June (Q2 2018) things will change, expecially if it will come (as it should) with full Treble support. In that case for all the developer would be easier to port any oreo-treble based custom rom to honor 8 or build a new one with less trouble and better compatibility. However, i take the opportunity here to thank all the developer who made custom roms until now for not abandoning this device and trying to fix all the bugs (aaaah that kirin....). Thank you all!

Android p developer preview OTA and beyond

Regarding mi mix 2s android p preview, Does it mean my device will become like pixle and recieve OTA updates as soon as they come out? Android 8 then 9 then 10... Etc
Stable Android P will see the reintroduction of MIUI, they put too much development in MIUI to allow you to use pure Android P, just like all manufacturers do. it's a shame tho, i would love this phone with pure android
barcode99 said:
Stable Android P will see the reintroduction of MIUI, they put too much development in MIUI to allow you to use pure Android P, just like all manufacturers do. it's a shame tho, i would love this phone with pure android
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I'm not a religious person but amen brother!
The device really rocks even with the developer preview. I can't wait to have an aosp rom for this device! Coming from Nexus devices ever since I still love the look, smoothness and bloatware free android experience.
Maybe Google can force manufacturers to let people choose between stock android and their own UI. Chose at first startup and you're good to go!
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Maybe Google can force manufacturers to let people choose between stock android and their own UI. Chose at first startup and you're good to go!
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it's not going to happen, bro. it's like Microsoft forcing everyone to use Edge instead of Firefox and Chrome. They paid license fee and the hardware manufacturers make money by all means necessary. GUI is one of those. I personally do not care about GUI, i had LG, HTC, Samsung and Sony phones. I choose best performing device on the market based on design, spec and camera. I use Smart Launcher on all of them and just delete/hide all bloatware. MI 2s is the one i like this year, i run preview on it for a month, it's keeps crashing and camera app lost all MI 2s advantages so i am back on MIUI Global now. All other developer ROMs i tried, including MIUI10 is just full of bugs. Depends what you want to use your prone for... i used it primarily for business, stable ROM is more important that new bells&whistles half of which doesn't work. I got preview for MIUI10 and it's far from even something usable on a daily basis.
I am sure we will get something closer to pure android soon, Xiaomi really making headlines by allowing all kinda testing on this phone, it's good marketing strategy. i like it, but from what i saw so far, Global 9.5.19.0 is the one for me
You're absolutely right about that!
They can't force the manufacturer to let people choose. Which is of course a bad thing and by that I mean to force them.
I tried the miui global ROM 9.5.15 and it's stable and working but it has too many restrictions for me. I just like the stock android and not this iOS plagiarized version.
I'll wait for the custom ROMs. I run lineageos on my Samsung note 10.1 2014 because the original firmware made the tablet unusable. Lags as hell and you can't even uninstall all this bloatware without root.
Nice to see different tastes, that's what's makes the development strive for new solutions. Which is obviously great! So everybody can choose what fits them best!
@barcode99 thanks, i guess there is no way but to wait for lineage OS rom
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@barcode99 thanks, i guess there is no way but to wait for lineage OS rom
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When snapdragon 845 sources are released(properly first week of july) aosp roms are right around the corner. Additionally the brightness bug with treble roms is fixed but the fix is not implemented yet, so the future looks bright
It's worth mentioning, the final 1/2 developer previews are actually pretty stable, I had a Xperia 3 that got the Nougat Dev Previews and Sony decided to stop with Dev Preview 5 and not release a stable version, but I used Dev Preview 5 as my daily driver and had 0 issues with it
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It's worth mentioning, the final 1/2 developer previews are actually pretty stable, I had a Xperia 3 that got the Nougat Dev Previews and Sony decided to stop with Dev Preview 5 and not release a stable version, but I used Dev Preview 5 as my daily driver and had 0 issues with it
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until someone port MIUI camera app or release it standalone i would go with MIUI ROM, all camera ports i tried suck. That's pretty much the same problem for all manufacturers since camera hardware is differ from one to another
I'd also love pure android on the mix2s. But I guess miui is just the only kinda "downside" for this great device. And besides I think miui 10 is reaaally sexy, especially the multitasking!

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