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[Q] Risks of Rooting and Xpsoed

Hi there,
I have been using Android phone nearly 7 years and I almost rooted all phones when got out of box. 2 years ago I bought a note 4 and I haven't rooted yet. The question I want to ask is, I am using banking apps frequently and I am afraid of rooting. I know how to unlock bootloaders, how to root, how to use supersu and etc. But I can't be sure about my safety.
1) Can apps bypass supersu and grand root access?
2) Can apps get my banking and other information easily?
3) Using Bitdefender Mobile and I know it works like other apps in sandbox and can't access other apps information, so can it be protect me from malware?
4) Using xposed makes me easily vulnerable to malwares?
Actually I don't have much money but I need to think about risks. Only things I want is adaway and some tweaks with xposed. So is it worth?
I asked so many I know. I appreciate so much if you answer.
Sorry for my English between, not my first language.
Thanks in advance.

unknownplaya said:
Hi there,
I have been using Android phone nearly 7 years and I almost rooted all phones when got out of box. 2 years ago I bought a note 4 and I haven't rooted yet. The question I want to ask is, I am using banking apps frequently and I am afraid of rooting. I know how to unlock bootloaders, how to root, how to use supersu and etc. But I can't be sure about my safety.
1) Can apps bypass supersu and grand root access?
2) Can apps get my banking and other information easily?
3) Using Bitdefender Mobile and I know it works like other apps in sandbox and can't access other apps information, so can it be protect me from malware?
4) Using xposed makes me easily vulnerable to malwares?
Actually I don't have much money but I need to think about risks. Only things I want is adaway and some tweaks with xposed. So is it worth?
I asked so many I know. I appreciate so much if you answer.
Sorry for my English between, not my first language.
Thanks in advance.
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1) Under a normal proper installation apps won't get root access unless you grant it.
2) If you give root access to an app it will be able to read pretty much everything in the system. However any banking app should store any sensitive information with encryption making it more difficult for that to happen.
4) Installing xposed adds an extra layer of software running with high privileges, increasing the attack surface.

Can we use safely banking apps after rooting mobile?
Can we use safely banking apps after rooting mobile?

Play Store and FE:Heroes "incompatibility"

So this is the first time I've witness a problem like this, where I want to download an app (Fire Emblem: Heroes), but the Play Store does not show it on my phone! When I search it on my computer it says it's not compatible with my devices. I figured it was due to root, so I unrooted a device that I soft rooted and it worked. I can now play on that device. However, my main device, my phone, is much more deeply rooted. So, is there a documented issue with apps not appearing on the play store due to root and is there any way to circumvent this? I want to avoid downloading apks from third party websites preferably, but the app itself has root detection on it as well once you DO install it! But basically, I don't want to miss out on a potentially good app because of some silly root check. If I don't see it I may never know about it!

Same problem here. So you are you sure that before the unroot the game wasn't working on your other phone? I never heard of apps not appearing in store due to root, usually you can download the app and then the ban happen as soon as you run it.
I'm on Galaxy S7 rooted android 6 tried on Nougat too but no luck. Also tried on Galaxy S4 and also i saw in the compatibily list also my old Lg G2 is not compatible, both are rooted too. I remember i was able to pre register too so now i'm pretty mad i can't play it since i'm a fan of the series.

Yeah, I'm sure. At first I was super confused. Then I tried using someone else's phone, and it not only showed up, but it showed an advertisement for the game on the front page! As soon as I unrooted my device, the app showed up on the front page of the play store and was searchable as well. Now when I search for the game on my computer it says "Some devices not compatible with this game" and it only shows my rooted phone as not being compatible. I agree with you that this is pretty bizarre. I didn't know Google Play went through that kind of effort detecting root, especially since they have apps that are root only. So the question now is, how do you hide root from Google Play?

How do you unroot your phone? I used the option on supersu to unroot but still the game says is not compatible.

You could try using Magisk to hide root.

Pwnycorn said:
You could try using Magisk to hide root.
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I tried Magisk but still no luck.Maybe there are some others remainings files on my phone that are detected or maybe i simply did something wrong i don't know.
I guess that's it, i'm not going to remove my root, really Nintendo surprise even on mobile with their retarded politics, i would have probably spended some money on the game only to support it like i did with other games i liked.

I removed root AND xposed. Maybe if you have xposed it still detects it. My unroot method was just using the superSU removal option. But like I said, my root was pretty light, I just rooted to uninstall a few stock verizon apps. If you have a rom with root embedded in it, you might not be able to unroot without reinstalling a new ROM. I understand Nintendo wanting to block rooted users since rooting is how you get hacks for your paid apps. However, they're isolating a pretty large base of players by doing that and it's probably not a good business decision. They're losing out more on the majority of people that don't risk installing said hacks on their phone. Those kind of hacks don't even break the game either, which makes it even more asinine. It would just be some guy ruining the game for himself by removing the limitation of orbs or experience.

P.S. It is a pretty good game and I'm fully enjoying myself with it. I might recommend getting a cheap $150 tablet to play it if you can't unroot.

Owners! Are you surviving without root?

Hey Sprint Galaxy S8 owners,
I'm looking to upgrade from S6 soon, and wondering how everyone is coping without root?
How did you get your apps (and app data) over to the new phone without Titanium Backup?

It's going good. Can't say I really miss root though. Maybe just YouTube background. As for ads, I use a VPN anyway and there's an option to block ads so that's not an issue. I had to start brand new when it came to app data. No big deal for me. I haven't had root since october, when I got my S7 and no root was available.

The Android Attorney said:
It's going good. Can't say I really miss root though. Maybe just YouTube background. As for ads, I use a VPN anyway and there's an option to block ads so that's not an issue. I had to start brand new when it came to app data. No big deal for me. I haven't had root since october, when I got my S7 and no root was available.
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That's promising. The things I really use root for are:
Titanium Backup
Unlimited HotSpot (Sprint)
OS Customization Hacks (Status Bar, etc)
And before I upgraded to Android N, I used a ton of Xposed modules.

muzicman82 said:
That's promising. The things I really use root for are:
Titanium Backup
Unlimited HotSpot (Sprint)
OS Customization Hacks (Status Bar, etc)
And before I upgraded to Android N, I used a ton of Xposed modules.
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I still miss Titanium Backup, but am surviving so far without root. A few apps (like uber, lyft and navigation) work better without root (while they do their best to vacuum up my info).
As for unlimited hotspot--- there's a pretty simple workaround which has been posted elsewhere so you can still have it. Only catch is every time you update your profile, you might have to re-do the simple workaround.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s8+/help/hotspot-workaround-t3608619/page3
Also-- I've found that the $1.99 app BK Disabler (PLUS THE PLUGIN, YOU MUST ALSO INSTALL THE PLUGIN) is definitely worth it. It let's you disable much of the otherwise blocked spam and notification apps and packages.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kunkunsoft.packagedisabler&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplysecuresolution.pdplugin
It has a widget functionality so that I can turn off and on a whole group of packages with a single click-- like location-- which I only use when i need it for navigation, but otherwise don't want to be tracked.
Hope this helps some.

Just got the S8. So here we go! My first order of business is trying to get my AppData transferred. Hoping Helium does its thing.
Next, I'm not much of a fan of AI or personal assistants.. I might get used to it, but that Bixby button would make a great back or home button. Actually, I'd be fine with it just being press to go Home and hold for kill app.

Good news, it looks like root has been achieved. Just waiting for the release!

OMG.. Best news of the day!

fever308 said:
Good news, it looks like root has been achieved. Just waiting for the release!
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It's only going to be for the S8+ for now until they get the files tbey need for the S8
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Tips and Tricks

So just moved from a note 4 to the a71 5g uw for verizon. 2 hours and I hate not having access to magisk or custom roms. Additionally, I want to know what fool at verizon decided to make netflix a system app
Down to the point, before the note 4 got root, they had a thread in regards to what is missed about root and work arounds for it. I would like to start that here. For instance the thread on managing ads with dns rather than adaway (which required root). Mine was the sheer customizability. Root allows so many different changes from just uninstalling system apps (*cough* Netflix *cough*) to changing the operating system.
In regards to uninstalling system apps, the note 4 group had an adb script that was probably pulled from somewhere else, that permanently disabled all the bloatware. Does anyone have anything like that for the A71?

Shizzle2889 said:
So just moved from a note 4 to the a71 5g uw for verizon. 2 hours and I hate not having access to magisk or custom roms. Additionally, I want to know what fool at verizon decided to make netflix a system app
Down to the point, before the note 4 got root, they had a thread in regards to what is missed about root and work arounds for it. I would like to start that here. For instance the thread on managing ads with dns rather than adaway (which required root). Mine was the sheer customizability. Root allows so many different changes from just uninstalling system apps (*cough* Netflix *cough*) to changing the operating system.
In regards to uninstalling system apps, the note 4 group had an adb script that was probably pulled from somewhere else, that permanently disabled all the bloatware. Does anyone have anything like that for the A71?
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Use this: https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
Very well explained, and works pretty good on non root devices.

Question Functionality after root?

If i root the device wtihout flashing a custom rom will there be anything major in terms of functionality that will be lost? Will I still be able to pair with devices such as the SPen, galaxy buds, galaxy watch (in the future), I've seen threads talking about being able to patch the watch, but nothing else. I am aware that apps like SPay and secure vault will not work and I know about magisk hide and zygisk. Also, is it true that HD streaming on apps such as Netflix is not possible with root? (not a dealbreaker). I want to root the device, I've used it for 3-2 months but I want to know if there is anything major that would sway me from doing so.

The main thing you will lose is any app that needs the built-in security like some banking apps including Samsung Pay. I think I read that it will break the Samsung health apps too. What is the reason for root if you are not loading a custom ROM?

Zempathy said:
Also, is it true that HD streaming on apps such as Netflix is not possible with root? (not a dealbreaker). I want to root the device, I've used it for 3-2 months but I want to know if there is anything major that would sway me from doing so.
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On some devices, you do. You get L3 widevine instead of L1 (which enables FHD content on streaming services). Some devices don't suffer this, however. It's hard to say which do.
You can bypass some stuff like Samsung Health and Galaxy Wearable by installing modded apps, you'll lose Samsung Pass and Pay permanently. You can bypass Secure Folder with a few modifications, though you would need a little technical know-how.

what i loose if i root s22 ultra? magisk?

Unless I am not understanding your question, this has already been addressed above.