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I think I read about this here a while ago, can not find it anymore.
After update to firmware 2.2 apps can be stores on sd-card.
BUT icons disappers from desktop when phone is restarted.
This only if its app is on sd-card.
Is there a fix for this, very annoying.
Sammi3 said:
I think I read about this here a while ago, can not find it anymore.
After update to firmware 2.2 apps can be stores on sd-card.
BUT icons disappers from desktop when phone is restarted.
This only if its app is on sd-card.
Is there a fix for this, very annoying.
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SD Card scanning takes time when you restart your phone, so for all the apps that you have installed in your SD Card, it will take time to load. Also widgets wont load if installed on SD Card. Please check if your icons are not coming at all or they are coming with a delay?
Thanks for your answer.
I upgraded to Froyo XXJPS some 4 months ago, ever since its been like this.
I have done nothing else to the phone.
Indeed it takes awhile to scan sd-card, but they do not load back on desktop even if I repositioned them after last restart.
Sammi3 said:
Thanks for your answer.
I upgraded to Froyo XXJPS some 4 months ago, ever since its been like this.
I have done nothing else to the phone.
Indeed it takes awhile to scan sd-card, but they do not load back on desktop even if I repositioned them after last restart.
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Check your notification bar if the sd card is being scanned or not and make sure widgets are on the phones memory. Also i would recommend rooting your phone, partitioning the sd card and using link2sd app from the android market. It moves your apps to the partition of your sd card and your phone thinks its your internal memory so it won't do a media scan on it meaning your apps load a lot faster. If you want to partition your sd card don't hesitate to message me for more info
It is not only widgets that is left out, none of the icons for the applications is loaded back. If the app is stored on sd-card that is.
Icons for apps stored on phones internal memory load fine.
I see this tiny sd-card-symbol in the notificatin bar for quite a while when reebooting. So it must be media scanned.
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It is not only widgets that is left out, none of the icons for the applications is loaded back. If the app is stored on sd-card that is.
Icons for apps stored on phones internal memory load fine.
I see this tiny sd-card-symbol in the notificatin bar for quite a while when reebooting. So it must be media scanned.
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Yes, it's a media scan. Just move them to internal memory and it will be fine.
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something like this happened to me a while back, the apps were not in the app drawer and also the icons changed to default white and green couldnt launch from home screen. I tried everything short off formatting memory card. I ended up reinstalling all the apps on the memory card ( wont pick up addition space since its already stored on your sd) and now they have been workinf fine since then, i can reboot or install to sd without a problem.
verdict - maybe sent a corrupted apk to sd.
as far as i know (from the time when i was on stock froyo), when you use the "original" way to move your apps to the sd card (settings/applications/manage applications, select app, press move to SD card) the icons placed on your desktop will be removed on a reboot. i dont think its a real "error" on your side, its just how its programmed in stock froyo.
I guess I was waiting for comment like yours, there is a 'bug' in froyo.
Do I have any other options than to root?
Are there updates to be found on froyo.
How did you root?
Name some of the biggest benefits in a rooted phone.
im not saying its a bug in android or in the android version we have on our phone. i dont know if other phones running android have the same "problem" with this.
if you want root do a quick search on the G3 section for it. its pretty good explained in a thread.
running a script like apps2sd requires you to partition your sd card, the best thing of it is that after its setup it needs no attention anymore, all the apps you install will be moved to the second partition untill it full. so basicly your phone is tricked into thinking that your internal mem is way larger then it should be .
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I guess I was waiting for comment like yours, there is a 'bug' in froyo.
Do I have any other options than to root?
Are there updates to be found on froyo.
How did you root?
Name some of the biggest benefits in a rooted phone.
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The first option is to move your apps to internal memory and see if they all fit in the internal memory or not. I think rooting is an easy way to sort out your problem is the internal memory is not enough for your apps.
The latest update to froyo is XXJPU and it's blazing fast! Just update to that and root your phone using this program. All the info is on that thread but all you really need to do is go to settings > applications > development > make sure USB debugging is ticked. Then connect your phone to your computer using USB cable, open the program as administrator and click root. Follow the commands (really easy) and then after everything is done just manually reboot your phone.
Just rooting your phone doesn't really do anything dangerous etc. All it does is allows you to edit the /system of your phone as this is restricted with androids. After rooting your phone you will be able to expand your internal memory. This is done by partitioning your sd card and using an app called link2sd or a script called app2sd. The app is easier.
Hope this helps and added some useful links in there so be sure to check them out.
Accordin to KIES I allready have the latest uppdate, which I do not seems to have. Where do I find XXJPU.
Hey Guys -
I've got a quick question, please... I recently added a 64gb MicroSD to my tablet, formatted it, and was able to move some apps to it and free up space. The problem is, that I can only move some apps to the SD card. Others have the buttons "Move to Tablet" and "Move to SD Card" bot greyed out.
I know that some developers can set the game to where it can or cannot be moved, but I researched to find out that some of the games which were grayed out support being moved which I cannot. Here are some examples:
- GTA: Vice City
- GTA: San Andreas
- Demon's Score
- ARC: Redux
I thought the issue may be due to KitKat "security" issues with the SD, but it allowed me to move some games and I thought Nvidia bypassed that issue anyways for the Shield in OEM firmware. Since I'm rooted, I went ahead and installed "HandleExternalStorage" via Xposed Installer which supposedly resolves the KitKat issue. After a reboot, though, I still cannot move some apps like the ones listed above.
The only other option I've seen is to use adb to set the system's default install location. Mine's currently set to "0" which is auto, but can easily be change to "1" which would install to SD. This would be last resort since I can see issues arising from this, but it's still an option.
Any thoughts on why this is happening and/or other methods to resolve it?
Thanks!
If you are rooted (which can be done without unlocking the bootloader currently), you can use Foldermount. I use it for a number of apps that cannot be moved the standard way. It is on the Play store. The only downside is if you want to link more than 3 things you'll have to get the Pro license (which is worth it in my opinion).
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If you are rooted (which can be done without unlocking the bootloader currently), you can use Foldermount. I use it for a number of apps that cannot be moved the standard way. It is on the Play store. The only downside is if you want to link more than 3 things you'll have to get the Pro license (which is worth it in my opinion).
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Yes, I'm rooted. I downloaded the app and am trying it out now. So basically, all it does is create a symlink or directory junction? I tried it out with one app which had an 800mb data folder and 1.2gb obb folder in which I had it auto create folders and move the data for each. Upon running it, it tried to extract the data and failed. Think it was either because I'd had issue with that app already plus probably shouldn't have moved bot folders.
I just tried it a second time with ARC Redux. I moved the obb folder which was 600mb. The data folder was empty. After it moved (checked progress via notification window), I launched it. Upon launch, it tried to download the app's data file again.
What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
The most common issue people run into with it is, while they setup the link they don't enable it. After the items is done moving things click on the little push pin icon. When that icon is green the symlink (at least I'm pretty sure that is what it is using) will be enabled/created or whatever it does. It is probably safe to enable the Symlink before it is done copying, but I normally wait just to make sure.
bzowk said:
Yes, I'm rooted. I downloaded the app and am trying it out now. So basically, all it does is create a symlink or directory junction? I tried it out with one app which had an 800mb data folder and 1.2gb obb folder in which I had it auto create folders and move the data for each. Upon running it, it tried to extract the data and failed. Think it was either because I'd had issue with that app already plus probably shouldn't have moved bot folders.
I just tried it a second time with ARC Redux. I moved the obb folder which was 600mb. The data folder was empty. After it moved (checked progress via notification window), I launched it. Upon launch, it tried to download the app's data file again.
What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
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Hi did you get this to work??
john09121 said:
Hi did you get this to work??
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I can confirm that FolderMount works! I was even able to do it with Trine 2! Tested with Portal and Half-Life 2 and only noticed slightly longer load times.
using FolderMount
Virus.Shell said:
I can confirm that FolderMount works! I was even able to do it with Trine 2! Tested with Portal and Half-Life 2 and only noticed slightly longer load times.
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Thanks for your last reply, please can you tell me if there an idiots guide to using FolderMount and also where look on the tablet for the installed apps and games, it just that I am new to the android system having left the iPad
You can download and install it directly from here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount&hl=en=bv.74115972,d.bGQ
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Thanks for your last reply, please can you tell me if there an idiots guide to using FolderMount and also where look on the tablet for the installed apps and games, it just that I am new to the android system having left the iPad
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It depends on what you mean by "idiots guide". lol
Basically, your games can be saved in a few different locations on your device. But for the sake of brevity, I'll try my best!
∙The easiest way is to open the app then open the left side menu (either by swiping from the left of your screen or tapping in the top left corner.
∙Choose "Apps Analyzer" and let it do it's thing.
∙When it's done you should be presented with a list of your apps, sorted from largest to smallest (or already moved)
∙Click the app you want to move and you should see a screen showing you what data is stored where.
∙Then click 'Create pair' on the right side (Either for obb or data. I usually just pick the largest of the two and move that. Tho you can also move both)
∙Then you should be asked if you want to allow the FM to do things automatically. (If you don't know what you're doing just click yes)
∙Adjust the name if needed
∙Click the check-mark in the top right and wait
∙Assuming everything went well, then the last thing you'll need to do is tap the thumbtack on the 'List of pairs' screen to activate it
∙Now you should be good to go!
I realise this is a couple of weeks old by now but I just got my Shield Tab a couple of days ago, have installed a few games and now the storage is nearly full - there's a few >1GB games which I can't move using the built in a2sd.
So I rooted it and installed FolderMount, but a lot of things just show up as 0B in the apps analyser and I don't have the option to move them.
Any idea what's going on here?
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I realise this is a couple of weeks old by now but I just got my Shield Tab a couple of days ago, have installed a few games and now the storage is nearly full - there's a few >1GB games which I can't move using the built in a2sd.
So I rooted it and installed FolderMount, but a lot of things just show up as 0B in the apps analyser and I don't have the option to move them.
Any idea what's going on here?
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Well after native Apps2SD, Link2SD is the way to go. Dunno if that helps =P. I'd use Foldermount or the equivalent after all else.
aenews said:
Well after native Apps2SD, Link2SD is the way to go. Dunno if that helps =P. I'd use Foldermount or the equivalent after all else.
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Installed Link2SD. Seems to pick up the internal storage mounted as an SD card, and doesn't pick up the actual SD card. It says "You can link the app in order to move its files to your SD card", but I can't seem to find anywhere to do that.
Update: some apps for which the option to move to SD is disabled normally (I'm looking at you, GTA:VC) can be moved if I use an adb shell to set the install location to the SD card - but it also showed up in FolderMount.
Some games, however (I'm looking at you, Humble Bundle versions of Horn, Anomaly 2 and The Cave, at least) still can't be moved (I try, it works for a while and then says "couldn't move app", and they show up in FolderMount as 0B (without the option for it to link anything), and I can't seem to find where they're stored in the file system to move and symlink them manually.
So can anyone help me move these things? I was hoping not to have half of my available storage taken up by three games (which is why I got a nice big SD card when I bought this). Thanks
Linking
Slashee the Cow said:
Installed Link2SD. Seems to pick up the internal storage mounted as an SD card, and doesn't pick up the actual SD card. It says "You can link the app in order to move its files to your SD card", but I can't seem to find anywhere to do that.
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There should be a linking option. You have to first repartition your card and add a second partition to do this, preferrably EXT4. There are tons of great utilities out there, but I usually use MiniTool Partition Wizard on Windows. Put your microSD in your computer's card reader, and in MiniTool, all you gotta do is make the existing partition smaller and make a new EXT4 partition in the free space. I'd say maybe 5GB or so would be enough, but it depends on you and what you link.
Linking is different from Apps2SD. You can actually do both to save more space.
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There should be a linking option. You have to first repartition your card and add a second partition to do this, preferrably EXT4. There are tons of great utilities out there, but I usually use MiniTool Partition Wizard on Windows. Put your microSD in your computer's card reader, and in MiniTool, all you gotta do is make the existing partition smaller and make a new EXT4 partition in the free space. I'd say maybe 5GB or so would be enough, but it depends on you and what you link.
Linking is different from Apps2SD. You can actually do both to save more space.
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Thanks! Turns out things work when I follow instructions. I used a GParted live USB and created an ext4 partition on my SD card, 16gb (it's a 64gb card, so I've got plenty of space... I can resize it later if need be).
Slashee the Cow said:
Thanks! Turns out things work when I follow instructions. I used a GParted live USB and created an ext4 partition on my SD card, 16gb (it's a 64gb card, so I've got plenty of space... I can resize it later if need be).
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Yup Gparted is a great tool. Awesome!
With Lollipop, does the Z5 (without rooting):
allow apps to be moved to an external SD card?
allow apps to write to the external SD card?
With the Z3 and Kitkat, point 2 was possible with root, but I haven't figured out point 1, not even with root.
I read somewhere that Lollipop should allow (2), but it should depend on the implementation of each phone.
Also, do you know if these two points are supposed to change in any way with Marshmallows?
Yes to both. The Z3 does both too.
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Yes to both. The Z3 does both too.
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Mmm, my Z3 with Kitkat does neither without root. Are you sure the Z5 does?
In my Z3:
There is no 'move app to SD card' option.
As for getting apps to write to the external SD card, I only managed to achieve it with root (there's a way to modify write permission which you can only change if you are rooted). Before this change, for example, Titanium Backup couldn't write backups to the external sd card
Sorry, Z3 on Lollipop I meant
Well apps on SD Works on z5
Just like on z1. I don't know if all apps work this way but:
You have to go to your app menu and check those checkboxes under the SD card page
I believe it'll work the same on z3
For apps to write on SD card it's need to be implemented in the app
For example total commander does this:
Once you try moving to SD card it opens the default android dialog and chose SD card
Bare 2 things in mind:
1. The whole app wont be moved over. Some can still take a load of space up on main storage.
2. When you update an app the system moves the whole app back onto the main storage.
This was from my Xperia z3 experience on lollipop.
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JKWR said:
Bare 2 things in mind:
1. The whole app wont be moved over. Some can still take a load of space up on main storage.
2. When you update an app the system moves the whole app back onto the main storage.
This was from my Xperia z3 experience on lollipop.
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Does (2) apply to all apps, or does it depend on how the app was coded by the developers?
I'm thinking of apps where it makes sense to keep the app/engine separate from additional data required (as is the case for games, dictionaries, etc.).
It totally defies the purpose...
To be honest I only remember the biggest culprits which were the big apps, namely:
Ms Word, Excel, PowerPoint. (probably a gb there that you have to mess about with all the time as it seems they are updated at least once a week)
Nearly all Games like plants vs zombies 2, angry birds 2, rayman fiesta run, angry birds transformers, jetpack joyride.
So basically you have to make sure you always have 3-4gig free on your main mem to stop these regular updates from eating every last bit up or getting a long list of update messages saying canot install due to insufficient memory. It drive me nuts on the z3 16gb.
I may have to skip the z5 32gb main mem for this purpose as well. Im a heavy app/game user though so 32gb might be OK for you
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cdl2 said:
With Lollipop, does the Z5 (without rooting):
allow apps to be moved to an external SD card?
allow apps to write to the external SD card?
With the Z3 and Kitkat, point 2 was possible with root, but I haven't figured out point 1, not even with root.
I read somewhere that Lollipop should allow (2), but it should depend on the implementation of each phone.
Also, do you know if these two points are supposed to change in any way with Marshmallows?
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1 - Yes - Go to Settings > Apps > Scroll right one to ON SD CARD tab > tick which app(s) you want moving to the SD card. Not everything is moved though, but enough. The Z3 on Lollipop is exactly the same.
2 - Unrooted, the rules are, as far as I can tell - System apps (like File Commander) have full access to the SD card, so can read and write to/from the SD card. If you install a 3rd party app, like another file manager from Play Store, it will not be able to write to the SD card as it is a user app. Certain 3rd party apps can write to the SD card, but their data is stored in a system sub folder on the SD card, and they are restricted to that location only. If you delete the app, the data is also deleted.
I used to use the SD Fix on KitKat, but I just rooted my Z3, and my File Manager can read/write the SD card. Not really sure how we are going to go with rooting Locked Bootloader Z5's yet, so we'll just have to see.
SD card access is changing again in Marshmallow, and should be better, going by what I've heard. You can now choose to treat your SD card as you do now, or as an 'extension' of your internal memory, but I think if you do choose to extend your internal memory, then it will be encrypted for use in that device only. If you don't use it as an extension, then I'm not yet sure what the permissions will be for general read/write access.
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1 - Yes - Go to Settings > Apps > Scroll right one to ON SD CARD tab > tick which app(s) you want moving to the SD card. Not everything is moved though, but enough. The Z3 on Lollipop is exactly the same.
2 - Unrooted, the rules are, as far as I can tell - System apps (like File Commander) have full access to the SD card, so can read and write to/from the SD card. If you install a 3rd party app, like another file manager from Play Store, it will not be able to write to the SD card as it is a user app. Certain 3rd party apps can write to the SD card, but their data is stored in a system sub folder on the SD card, and they are restricted to that location only. If you delete the app, the data is also deleted.
I used to use the SD Fix on KitKat, but I just rooted my Z3, and my File Manager can read/write the SD card. Not really sure how we are going to go with rooting Locked Bootloader Z5's yet, so we'll just have to see.
SD card access is changing again in Marshmallow, and should be better, going by what I've heard. You can now choose to treat your SD card as you do now, or as an 'extension' of your internal memory, but I think if you do choose to extend your internal memory, then it will be encrypted for use in that device only. If you don't use it as an extension, then I'm not yet sure what the permissions will be for general read/write access.
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Hi, fellows, has anyone solved the problem of writing to external SD cards on marshmallow?
yes, (dead brained) android developers again broken the file-system access....
as lot of users that have an old device, I use app2sd app to move my app to sdcard (because adoptable storage is a sh..t, that don´t even care about partitioning a sdcard to still allow to use it to store data that I want to access from a pc when the phone has problems... again, theses "clever" google engineer didn't even asked themselves why user created app2sd like app... why they chosen to use dedicated partition and still allow to have a shareable storage... ) , my sdcard speed is fast enough to not see any difference between internal storage and sd card stored app, and I worry more about emmc aging than a few ms....
BUT, seems that the APP_DATA_DIRECTORY_ISOLATION feature prevent moving the data to sdcard, I use lineageos, in developper settings there is override per application compatibility, when I uncheck APP_DATA_DIRECTORY_ISOLATION in this for a particular app linked to sdcard, this solve the issue, and a sd card stored app can be used...
however, this settings isn't persistent... so on next reboot I have to do it again for every app linked to sdcard....
and you know what? it was reported to android dev, that replied... to buy a new phone!!! because emmc storage is much more faster.... I begin to really get upset at android, they took a nice system (linux) and made it s....t, and more, how many cpu power is lost by android checks (since it can be desactivated on the fly per app... this isn't something that rely on kernel....)
so my question, is it possible to have this option set to off by default on boot? how?
thanks
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yes, (dead brained) android developers again broken the file-system access....
as lot of users that have an old device, I use app2sd app to move my app to sdcard (because adoptable storage is a sh..t, that don´t even care about partitioning a sdcard to still allow to use it to store data that I want to access from a pc when the phone has problems... again, theses "clever" google engineer didn't even asked themselves why user created app2sd like app... why they chosen to use dedicated partition and still allow to have a shareable storage... ) , my sdcard speed is fast enough to not see any difference between internal storage and sd card stored app, and I worry more about emmc aging than a few ms....
BUT, seems that the APP_DATA_DIRECTORY_ISOLATION feature prevent moving the data to sdcard, I use lineageos, in developper settings there is override per application compatibility, when I uncheck APP_DATA_DIRECTORY_ISOLATION in this for a particular app linked to sdcard, this solve the issue, and a sd card stored app can be used...
however, this settings isn't persistent... so on next reboot I have to do it again for every app linked to sdcard....
and you know what? it was reported to android dev, that replied... to buy a new phone!!! because emmc storage is much more faster.... I begin to really get upset at android, they took a nice system (linux) and made it s....t, and more, how many cpu power is lost by android checks (since it can be desactivated on the fly per app... this isn't something that rely on kernel....)
so my question, is it possible to have this option set to off by default on boot? how?
thanks
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So I recently ran out of storage on my Motorola G Power 2021, so I bought a micro SD to move some of my less-used but not quite expendable apps. Originally I'd planned to format as internal storage, but my phone doesn't appear to allow this and doesn't even show the option to do so. So I opted for the next best thing, migrating some of the app data over by going to Apps & notifications > All Apps > (app) > Storage & cache, but there's no option to move the app to the external storage device. As per the title, I also turned "Force allow apps on external" in developer settings to no avail. Could Motorola be blocking this too? I've done a little searching, and I can't seem to find any examples of this other than this one which was on a completely different phone brand and this one which seems to have been caused by misunderstanding and resolved.
What I've tried:
Restarting phone - didn't help
Checking other apps - checked about a dozen and none had the move to external storage option
Rooting - can't unlock bootloader as per Motorola's website
Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this, if I can work around it, or even if I can somehow format as internal storage? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Installing apps over to the microSD card isn't supported by all apps. In fact, many don’t support this feature at all. Some manufacturers - namely, Samsung and LG - reviously allowed users to format microSD cards as internal storage. That meant apps and games would be installed there by default. Sadly, this feature is no longer present on newer devices.
Technically, it’s still possible to install apps on the microSD if you’re willing to go through the trouble of rooting your Android phone and afterwareds use Link2SD to move the apps from internal storage to exernal storage.
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Installing apps over to the microSD card isn't supported by all apps. In fact, many don’t support this feature at all. Some manufacturers - namely, Samsung and LG - reviously allowed users to format microSD cards as internal storage. That meant apps and games would be installed there by default. Sadly, this feature is no longer present on newer devices.
Technically, it’s still possible to install apps on the microSD if you’re willing to go through the trouble of rooting your Android phone and afterwareds use Link2SD to move the apps from internal storage to exernal storage.
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I thought the purpose of "Force allow apps on external" was to be able to transfer any app regardless of the developers' wishes. Is this not the case?
you already gave the answer yourself
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Originally I'd planned to format as internal storage, but my phone doesn't appear to allow this and doesn't even show the option to do so.
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Does it have to be formatted as internal storage to be allowed to transfer apps? I guess I didn't really think about that.
Edit: Just to be sure we're all on the same page, the SD card is formatted, just not as part of the internal storage. I can access any files on it, but I can't put any apps there. I was under the impression that if you formatted as internal storage the SD card would act as a direct expansion somehow and automatically install data there once the integrated storage filled.
I haven't tested that specific option but afaik it overrides android:installLocation="preferExternal" in app manifest. that would allow to move the apk to Adoptable Storage, but requires MicroSD Card formatted as internal.
Only new apps are installed external automatically (based on that setting), for existing apps the "Migrate Data" option is offered.