Hello, I have a P3110 for at least a month, today i see that after 2 hours charging in AC Adaptor, it shows 99% and when i unplug it shows 100%...
so every time that i plug the charger it shows 99%, and when i unplug it shows the real charge. so there's some way to correct this glitch? thnk u
Also Battery duration declined from 7h to 5h...
I made some analysis on a P5110 , you may find them here http://78michel.unblog.fr/samsung-galaxy-tab-2-10-1-tests/
One important point to know about battery is that on most smartphone or tablets the 100% state of charge level is screened when the charging current get under a limit value. This limit value is set in the charge managing IC.
In your case the charging current is still at a higher level than the limit : the state of charge stay at 99%
When you disconnect the AC charger the charging current goes to 0 , the state of charge is therefore calculated from the voltage of the battery. If the voltage of your battery is close to 4.2Volt the state of charge is screened at 100%
Your problem is very frequent because the end of charge is defined by a current level, whereras the state of charge when the battery is not connected to a charger is defined by its voltage. In fact it is difficult to have a perfect agreement between both methods of evaluating the 100% state of charge
Hello, I recently got my 6500mAh extended battery for my N7100 and I found that charging was pretty slow with the charger that comes with it (about eight hours for a full charge) compared with the stock charger that can charge the stock battery within one hour and half. Therefore, after reading the spec of the charger, I discovered that the slow charge was come from the fact that the output amperage of the charger was 800mA (800mAh). Therefore, by some calculation, 6500mAh/800mAh which was equal to eight hours. So, I then looked at the spec of the stock charger and I noticed that the output amperage is a bit higher, 2A (2000mAh). By the same calculation, I can predict that with the stock charger, I only need about three hours to completely charge my extended battery. Does anyone attempted to use a stock charger to charge an extended battery?
I usually let it charge over night. However I found today it is charged very fast: less than 2hours from 30% to 100%. I used galaxy note 2 usb charger. Do you have the same experience of charging or my battery has problems?
yes i same with you
When your battery was at 30%, it means the charger had to charge 1610mA (30% of 2300mA is 690mA). The Galaxy Note 2 charger has an output amperage of 2000mA. So you can imagine it won't take very long.
[update] Hm I misread note for tab. I have a tab 2 with a 2A charger. Not sure what the note 2 charger can output, but I'm guessing it will be above average.
Petrovski80 said:
When your battery was at 30%, it means the charger had to charge 1610mA (30% of 2300mA is 690mA). The Galaxy Note 2 charger has an output amperage of 2000mA. So you can imagine it won't take very long.
[update] Hm I misread note for tab. I have a tab 2 with a 2A charger. Not sure what the note 2 charger can output, but I'm guessing it will be above average.
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Thanks. I will check the output of note 2 usb charger and do the math.
Stock Nexus 5 charger also charges it from 0 to 100% in less than 2 hours.
Dont forget that the devices kernel determines how much mA is drawn from a charger and not how much may a charger is rated for
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Not all milliamps are the same
It seems to be a common misconception that the number of milliamp-hours of your battery and the milliamp rating of your charger have a fixed relationship.They don't. It does not automatically follow that a 2000mAh battery will take 2 hours to charge from a 1000mA charger, or that the charge current will be 1000mA. Charge current can easily - and safely - be higher than the mA rating of the charger. Or lower.
The N5 battery is rated at 3.8V 2300mAh (typical) and, crucially, 8.74 watt hours. A 5V 1000mA charger can supply a maximum of 5 watts (5 volts x 1 amp). Voltage converters within the N5 change this 5 watts of power from 5V to 3.8V to suit the battery - and this could be at about 1250mA (assuming a not-unreasonable 95% conversion efficiency).
The battery voltage varies with the state of charge, reaching about 4.2V when fully charged. Even then, the charge current could be as high as 1130mA without drawing more than 1000mA from the 5V charger.
An earlier poster pointed out that charging is under control of the CPU (I suspect instead a dedicated charging circuit but that's irrelevant) and it is very likely that a) the charging current varies significantly during the charging cycle and b) it is unlikely that the charging circuit demands precisely the maximum that the charger can supply. But it is quite likely that the actual current being put into the battery is numerically higher than that being drawn from the source. It's the power in watts that counts, not the number of milliamps.
Batteries are not perfect, meaning you don't get out all you put in. If the battery was completely flat you would have to put in more than 8.74wh in to bring it up to full charge (although a totally flat Li-ion battery is dead beyond redemption; the battery life shown on the screen is the useable life, not ultimate power capacity).
Sometimes the charger rating, battery capacity and charge time seem to line up, but that's more due to a happy accident than anything else. A 40,000mA charger won't juice your phone from flat in four minutes!
Batteries, and charging, are complex...
G1MFG said:
It seems to be a common misconception that the number of milliamp-hours of your battery and the milliamp rating of your charger have a fixed relationship.They don't. It does not automatically follow that a 2000mAh battery will take 2 hours to charge from a 1000mA charger, or that the charge current will be 1000mA. Charge current can easily - and safely - be higher than the mA rating of the charger. Or lower.
The N5 battery is rated at 3.8V 2300mAh (typical) and, crucially, 8.74 watt hours. A 5V 1000mA charger can supply a maximum of 5 watts (5 volts x 1 amp). Voltage converters within the N5 change this 5 watts of power from 5V to 3.8V to suit the battery - and this could be at about 1250mA (assuming a not-unreasonable 95% conversion efficiency).
The battery voltage varies with the state of charge, reaching about 4.2V when fully charged. Even then, the charge current could be as high as 1130mA without drawing more than 1000mA from the 5V charger.
An earlier poster pointed out that charging is under control of the CPU (I suspect instead a dedicated charging circuit but that's irrelevant) and it is very likely that a) the charging current varies significantly during the charging cycle and b) it is unlikely that the charging circuit demands precisely the maximum that the charger can supply. But it is quite likely that the actual current being put into the battery is numerically higher than that being drawn from the source. It's the power in watts that counts, not the number of milliamps.
Batteries are not perfect, meaning you don't get out all you put in. If the battery was completely flat you would have to put in more than 8.74wh in to bring it up to full charge (although a totally flat Li-ion battery is dead beyond redemption; the battery life shown on the screen is the useable life, not ultimate power capacity).
Sometimes the charger rating, battery capacity and charge time seem to line up, but that's more due to a happy accident than anything else. A 40,000mA charger won't juice your phone from flat in four minutes!
Batteries, and charging, are complex...
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This. Well said.
Your suspicions are correct, it does have a dedicated charging circuit. This chip is responsible for charging. Input current appears to be capped at 1200mA. Measured with my DMM last night and never saw the phone draw more than 960mA when charging with the screen off. It stayed like that until the battery was around 95% charged, then gradually tapered off from there as the battery reached 100%.
G1MFG said:
It seems to be a common misconception that the number of milliamp-hours of your battery and the milliamp rating of your charger have a fixed relationship.They don't. It does not automatically follow that a 2000mAh battery will take 2 hours to charge from a 1000mA charger, or that the charge current will be 1000mA. Charge current can easily - and safely - be higher than the mA rating of the charger. Or lower.
The N5 battery is rated at 3.8V 2300mAh (typical) and, crucially, 8.74 watt hours. A 5V 1000mA charger can supply a maximum of 5 watts (5 volts x 1 amp). Voltage converters within the N5 change this 5 watts of power from 5V to 3.8V to suit the battery - and this could be at about 1250mA (assuming a not-unreasonable 95% conversion efficiency).
The battery voltage varies with the state of charge, reaching about 4.2V when fully charged. Even then, the charge current could be as high as 1130mA without drawing more than 1000mA from the 5V charger.
An earlier poster pointed out that charging is under control of the CPU (I suspect instead a dedicated charging circuit but that's irrelevant) and it is very likely that a) the charging current varies significantly during the charging cycle and b) it is unlikely that the charging circuit demands precisely the maximum that the charger can supply. But it is quite likely that the actual current being put into the battery is numerically higher than that being drawn from the source. It's the power in watts that counts, not the number of milliamps.
Batteries are not perfect, meaning you don't get out all you put in. If the battery was completely flat you would have to put in more than 8.74wh in to bring it up to full charge (although a totally flat Li-ion battery is dead beyond redemption; the battery life shown on the screen is the useable life, not ultimate power capacity).
Sometimes the charger rating, battery capacity and charge time seem to line up, but that's more due to a happy accident than anything else. A 40,000mA charger won't juice your phone from flat in four minutes!
Batteries, and charging, are complex...
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Thanks a lot. It did look complicated. As long as the fast charging is normal, I don't worry too much.
Can anyone recommend an app that shows real time current draw? It would also be cool if the app showed how much power the phone is using in real time.
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G1MFG said:
It seems to be a common misconception that the number of milliamp-hours of your battery and the milliamp rating of your charger have a fixed relationship.They don't. It does not automatically follow that a 2000mAh battery will take 2 hours to charge from a 1000mA charger, or that the charge current will be 1000mA. Charge current can easily - and safely - be higher than the mA rating of the charger. Or lower.
The N5 battery is rated at 3.8V 2300mAh (typical) and, crucially, 8.74 watt hours. A 5V 1000mA charger can supply a maximum of 5 watts (5 volts x 1 amp). Voltage converters within the N5 change this 5 watts of power from 5V to 3.8V to suit the battery - and this could be at about 1250mA (assuming a not-unreasonable 95% conversion efficiency).
The battery voltage varies with the state of charge, reaching about 4.2V when fully charged. Even then, the charge current could be as high as 1130mA without drawing more than 1000mA from the 5V charger.
An earlier poster pointed out that charging is under control of the CPU (I suspect instead a dedicated charging circuit but that's irrelevant) and it is very likely that a) the charging current varies significantly during the charging cycle and b) it is unlikely that the charging circuit demands precisely the maximum that the charger can supply. But it is quite likely that the actual current being put into the battery is numerically higher than that being drawn from the source. It's the power in watts that counts, not the number of milliamps.
Batteries are not perfect, meaning you don't get out all you put in. If the battery was completely flat you would have to put in more than 8.74wh in to bring it up to full charge (although a totally flat Li-ion battery is dead beyond redemption; the battery life shown on the screen is the useable life, not ultimate power capacity).
Sometimes the charger rating, battery capacity and charge time seem to line up, but that's more due to a happy accident than anything else. A 40,000mA charger won't juice your phone from flat in four minutes!
Batteries, and charging, are complex...
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True. I never said there was a fixed relationship though. They do have a loose relationship. Charging with a 500mA charger will take longer than charging with a 2000mA one, since about every modern phone accepts a charging limit higher than 500mA.
Another aspect not addressed in my reply is that the charge process isn't linear. But without going into too much electronics, I just wanted to explain to the OP he shouldn't have to worry if he notices differences in charging times when using chargers of different amperage output.
Today's batteries are much improved
wolfca said:
Thanks a lot. It did look complicated. As long as the fast charging is normal, I don't worry too much.
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That's the ticket. When used with the correct charger, a modern phone battery takes a couple of hours to charge fully, a bit longer with a lower-rated charger. Or you can top up a bit if you have a few minutes spare. It's much better than the early mobiles with Ni-Cd batteries that took overnight to charge. And required weightlifting training before you could even pick them up!
Why does my device Poco X2, which has 27w fast charging, get down 6% - 7% in just 10 minutes when charged below 100%, and when charged 100% and some more time then it doesn't happen?
i have a samsung galaxy s10 and somehow i notice that the charging speed is blazing fast from 89% to 100%. Then i monitor the peak voltage using AIDA64 and Accubattery. When my phone reached 100% it shows the voltage of 4.225 mV, i read that S10 supposed to charge upto 4.285 mV. After that i tried calibrating the battery by discharging it until my phone turned off by itself then charge to 100% while turned off and it shows 4.3 mV after i turned in on. What is happening to my phone and should i be worried about it?
In fact fast charging ramps down at about 80% then again around 90% in order to protect the battery. Excessive cold temperatures will cause fast charging not to engage.
You can't accurately measure Li charge level voltage or fast charge with the display on. If the display is on the power controller senses the excess power usage and ramps down fast charging. It will charge slowly at best.
To measure the voltage with Accubattery have the window open then turn off the display. When you turn it on you have about a second to see the voltage as it samples around every second or so.
It will immediately drop down then.
Depending on temperature, current draw and battery condition it may limit the top charge.
Fast charging to 100% stresses the battery needlessly as does constantly discharging below 20%. Li's prefer frequent midrange power cycling ie 40-72%. High cell voltage and temperature are their enemies. High discharge rates also can accelerate their degradation by driving up temperature.
Ideal minimum start charge temperature for fast charging is about 82F, minimum is 72F. If below about 55F fast charging will not engage for that charge cycle.
Cold charging Li's can cause Li plating which will permanently degrade the cell, a oid doing this!
NEVER attempt to charge an Li that is near freezing temperature
So thats the reason why my phone once dropped its percentage from 30% to 5% in an instant after having it in front of my car air conditioner. But is there a reason why my phone charged very fast from 89% to 100%?
It shouldn't drop that fast! Or charge faster near full charge. This is atypical performance.
You using the Samsung 25w brick and cable?
Erratic fast charging is a sign of a battery failure. Any swelling is a battery failure, replace asap.
Im using samsung 15w fast charging and btw i have replaced the battery around 5 months ago and i notice the fast charging speed only recently. Samsung didnt reset mt battery cycle when replacing the battery tho
Fixt1772 said:
Im using samsung 15w fast charging and btw i have replaced the battery around 5 months ago and i notice the fast charging speed only recently. Samsung didnt reset mt battery cycle when replacing the battery tho
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You need the 25 watt Samsung brick and cable.
15 watts will slow fast charging down if it works at all. If fast charging it should add about 2%@minute for 4100mAh battery in the 20-70% charging range.