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High powered USB car charger?

Hi all,
Can anyone recommend a high mAh output usb car charger? It has to be one with a detachable USB lead.
The one I have currently takes forever just to charge the device by a 1% increment. It doesn't also seem to provide enough power when for example I have sat-nav/GPS running (the device still drops in battery power).
Thanks.

dont even think....
dont even think about it.... i got a charger that does 2 amps instead of 1 amp and guess what my battery blew up!

So what's optimal/maximum amp rating that I can use?
The one I have I would say is pretty much useless when using battery hungry applications/services.
Just tried to check my existing charger but there is no rating on it.
Would I able right in saying the following:
A charger with a 1000 mAh, would charge my battery by 1000 mA in a hour?
I believe HTC official chargers have a rating of 1000 mAh too right? Mine one may well be 500 I would guess.
How quick do other peoples car charger charge their Diamonds?

sh500 said:
So what's optimal/maximum amp rating that I can use?
The one I have I would say is pretty much useless when using battery hungry applications/services.
Just tried to check my existing charger but there is no rating on it.
Would I able right in saying the following:
A charger with a 1000 mAh, would charge my battery by 1000 mA in a hour?
I believe HTC official chargers have a rating of 1000 mAh too right? Mine one may well be 500 I would guess.
How quick do other peoples car charger charge their Diamonds?
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A charger's specification would never indicate the mAh ( milliamp hour)rating, but would indicate the maximum current it can supply while maintaining an operating voltage (for usb its 5Volts.)
in answer to your question: yes your charger needs to supply more current when you have your Diamond operating and charging at the same time. not all chargers are made equal. some may max out by 500mA, therefore your diamond wont charge at all if its on. as far as I know, most chargers are rated to supply 2A (or 2000mA)
another thing: your diamond uses its own charging circuitry to recharge and maintain its battery. just because a charging adapter says it charges at 1000mAh, i doubt it would actually recharge your battery from 0% capacity to full% capacity in an hour(it just doesnt work that way, and if it did, then your battery could blow up).
as for my own diamond, i seems that it takes around 3-4 hours to get from 0% to full when it is off and using my stock 950mAh.
doing a little math here: 950mAh / 4 hours = ~250mA
therefor in order to recharge your battery, the charging adapter needs to supply 250mA.
but if your diamond is ON and you want to recharge then your charging adapter needs to supply 250mA AND and additional amount of current to maintain your diamonds power.
if youre still able to follow with what im saying here, you may conclude that you just have a DUD charger and you should just buy another one.
as for the other guy who said that a 2Ah charger blew his battery up. I'm a bit skeptical. I think your chargering circuit in your diamond is more likely to fry before blowing a battery up (and if a lithium battery blew up it would have taken out his entire diamond).

Yep, that all makes sense.
By chance, My battery (1800mAH) totally died last night. Put it on car charger and after almost exactly a hours worth of charging, the battery indicated 1% (!) Mind TomTom was running for about 30 minutes of that.
Ok time to buy a new higher rated charger I think. Any recommendations for one with a USB port on it?
Thanks.

i've been looking for one liek that on e-bay as well but i cannot seem to find one. having a detachable usb cord would be nice, but now that i think about it maybe i am better off finding one with a non detachable cable in the event that I dont have a usb cable around.

Yeah, I wouldn't normally mind one with an attached cord but the setup in my car is such that I already have a semi hard wired a usb from a 12v supply and have the [USB] cable hidden then have it pop out near to my car holder.

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Check out Avantek. This charger works so much faster than any other charger I have. My Note goes from zero to hero in no time flat.

Fast charging? Is it safe?

First of all . Every night when I go to bed, I like to plug my phone in and charge it while I sleep.
6-7 hrs or so.
Is there a way to stop this fast charge feature , or turn it off. It's a cool addition, however I feel I'm doing more harm leaving it plugged in all night??
Could I just use my old blackberry charger block instead?

markdexter said:
First of all . Every night when I go to bed, I like to plug my phone in and charge it while I sleep.
6-7 hrs or so.
Is there a way to stop this fast charge feature , or turn it off. It's a cool addition, however I feel I'm doing more harm leaving it plugged in all night??
Could I just use my old blackberry charger block instead?
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Technically , yes you can use any charger you'd like. You don't have to stick with the fast charger. I will though , highlight that the fast charger is optimized for the S6 battery and the battery is optimized for it , so there is no harm in keeping the charger plugged in.

You can't damage the battery if you leave it on all night. All phones have special circuitry to stop charging once the battery is full.

Fast charge works by increasing the voltage, not the current. This is a much safer approach for increasing the power transfer from charger to phone. As it is primarily the amperage that increases thermal output etc.
Although the phone will get warm initially while charging, all phones will. But when the battery reaches full capacity, the battery circuit actually says "okie dokie. I've got what I need now. Let's just trickle charge to keep me full till my boss is ready" and hardly any power will flow through, and the temperature will drop.
Actually makes me wonder about setting up a temp/time monitor while charging to see exactly what happens and when now :3
But as others have said, both charger and battery are optimised for it, and it is plenty safe enough. It's what I do!
There is also nothing stopping you using any other (safe and preferably branded) 5v 1A charger. It will just charge slower. Much like what you are already used to. 3-4 hours instead of 1-1.5ish hours.

solitarymonkey said:
Fast charge works by increasing the voltage, not the current.
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Forgive me, I dropped my electrical engineering major, but when we're dealing with direct current, doesn't increasing the voltage by definition increase the current if the resistance doesn't change?
I used the Ampere app to compare the regular charger, from which the phone pulled around a half of an amp, with the fast charger, from which the phone pulled a full amp.

Sallyty said:
Battery life depends on the number of repeated charge and discharge, so should avoid charging the battery is more than power, it will shorten the battery life.
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I'm not really sure what you mean by " so should avoid charging the battery is more than power", but battery lifespan in lithium batteries is decreased by FULL discharges and recharges. The best possible routine for making lithium batteries last is to charge early and often. And as genetichazzard pointed out, there is circuitry included that stops the charging (or trickles it) once it reaches full charge.
"Rapid charging", in general, will cost you life in batteries, but that is usually in reference to 4A-6A rapid charging, where this new Samsung charger still does not exceed 2A. I trust their battery engineers. They've one of two things: they have either engineered the batteries and chargers to last in their first sealed body phone, or they are trying to screw us by making a battery/charging system that will force us to pay for a costly battery replacement. They won't stay in business much longer if they go the second route.

flu13 said:
Forgive me, I dropped my electrical engineering major, but when we're dealing with direct current, doesn't increasing the voltage by definition increase the current if the resistance doesn't change?
I used the Ampere app to compare the regular charger, from which the phone pulled around a half of an amp, with the fast charger, from which the phone pulled a full amp.
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I have no idea of the complexities in the technology, or how the phone itself deals with the current from the charger. But I looked at the fast charger that came with my s6 last night, and it is rated like this;
9V 1.67A
5V 2A
The 9V output provides a 15W of power, whereas the the 5V output provides 10W of power.
And after a little bit of reading (can't site my source now as I forgot the website), it is the current that generates heat in the components (such as wires).
So by upping the voltage, the charger is able to transfer more energy to the phone safer than if manufacturers continued to just increase the current.
There will be a smart switching method of some sort within the charger to go from the 5V circuit to the 9V circuit, with a slightly higher resistance to drop the current.
And before I ramble on without making much sense, that is what I have learnt
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Sallyty said:
I think you are right,Maybe phones have special circuitry to stop charging once the battery is full.
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You are right. Chargers and rechargeable batteries as a whole have been getting "more intelligent" over recent years.
No idea exactly how they do it, I know that a lot of batteries have chips in the that monitor things such as charge capacity and its "health". So I am assuming that they have some form of circuit switch to a higher resistance circuit when the battery is full, so that only a very tiny current can flow, keeping the battery full, without killing it.

solitarymonkey said:
No idea exactly how they do it, I know that a lot of batteries have chips in the that monitor things such as charge capacity and its "health". So I am assuming that they have some form of circuit switch to a higher resistance circuit when the battery is full, so that only a very tiny current can flow, keeping the battery full, without killing it.
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Almost always, the circuit is built into the charging device, not the battery. In the case of phone batteries, the phone is the charging device.
Link to more than any non battery engineer needs to know about lithium-ion batteries and charging.

DevonSloan said:
Almost always, the circuit is built into the charging device, not the battery. In the case of phone batteries, the phone is the charging device.
Link to more than any non battery engineer needs to know about lithium-ion batteries and charging.
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Thanks for the link/info. A while after I said all that, I started thinking that it can't be right.
The phone does the regulation, but I'm pretty they (the batteries) do have an integrated chip for health stuff.
Cheers again for the correction!

Can this phone support or charge with a 5v 3.5 amp charger? Is it faster? ZeroLemon

Next week getting a new Note 4 - and zerolemon 10,000mah battery!
I need to deep cycle battery 6-8 times to get phone to display the current vbbatt % correctly. The manufacturer for zerolemon says turn off fast charge and charge 12hrs each time.
That being said, with fast charge off, can I use a 5v 3.5 amp charger I see on amazon and possibly charge the phone faster than 12 hrs like normal is using a 2.1 amp charger?
Anyone tried this with let's say even the stock battery does the battery actually charge faster due to the increased amps or would it be a waste and still charges at the slower 2.1 amps?

I never deep cycled the battery and the longest discharge I got was 1 week with 16 hours on screen time...you just need to make sure you use an updated kernel with the zL fix.

The amperage rating is the max the charger can put out. The Note will draw the same amperage on either charger because they are both 5V.

ackliph said:
The amperage rating is the max the charger can put out. The Note will draw the same amperage on either charger because they are both 5V.
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But will the phone charge faster on 3.5 amps at 5v vs the 1.5 amp or 2.1 amp the stock charger puts out? I am getting ZeroLemon and need to deep cycle the battery a few times and am trying to have it fully charged in less than the standard 12 hrs - was hoping a charger with more amps would cut down on the 12 hrs lol
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WN86VYQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3RPN0HBLXDN8Z

i just used the stock fast charger on my zerolemmon with fast charge on and i never let it go the full 1 hours. Ive had insane battery life with it so i dont think it matters

drtechnology said:
But will the phone charge faster on 3.5 amps at 5v vs the 1.5 amp or 2.1 amp the stock charger puts out? I am getting ZeroLemon and need to deep cycle the battery a few times and am trying to have it fully charged in less than the standard 12 hrs - was hoping a charger with more amps would cut down on the 12 hrs lol
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WN86VYQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3RPN0HBLXDN8Z
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Your Note 4 will draw a maximum of 1.9A on a 5V standard charger and a maximum of 1.66A on a 9V Quickcharger. If you multiply these values, you will get your "charging speed" in Watts: The maximum is 9.5W on normal charger and 15W on a quick charger.
Using a higher rated normal charger (eg 5V/3A) will NOT INCREASE charging speed. The Note 4 will never draw more than 1.9A on 5V.
Using a lower rated normal charger (eg 5V/1A) WILL DECREASE the charging speed. The Note 4 will notice that it cannot get 1.9A from the charger and drop the current. Bad and/or long cables can also influence the charging speed negatively.
Also noteworthy: Quick charging will only work when screen is off. As soon as you turn your screen on, the charging speed when connected to a quick charger will drop from 15W to an extremely slow 5W. The only fix for this horrible Samsung joke is a custom ROM like CyanogenMod.
You can charge your Zerolemon battery nicely with the original Quickcharger that came with the phone. That will do 15W and is as fast as you can possibly charge.

joeuser said:
Your Note 4 will draw a maximum of 1.9A on a 5V standard charger and a maximum of 1.66A on a 9V Quickcharger. If you multiply these values, you will get your "charging speed" in Watts: The maximum is 9.5W on normal charger and 15W on a quick charger.
Using a higher rated normal charger (eg 5V/3A) will NOT INCREASE charging speed. The Note 4 will never draw more than 1.9A on 5V.
Using a lower rated normal charger (eg 5V/1A) WILL DECREASE the charging speed. The Note 4 will notice that it cannot get 1.9A from the charger and drop the current. Bad and/or long cables can also influence the charging speed negatively.
Also noteworthy: Quick charging will only work when screen is off. As soon as you turn your screen on, the charging speed when connected to a quick charger will drop from 15W to an extremely slow 5W. The only fix for this horrible Samsung joke is a custom ROM like CyanogenMod.
You can charge your Zerolemon battery nicely with the original Quickcharger that came with the phone. That will do 15W and is as fast as you can possibly charge.
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Wow. Good info. Thx. Now a ton with a hack to draw more amps lol. Hmmmm lolol

Question regarding charging smartphone and which are the best for battery life

Hi, i've just purchased Xiaomi mi 5 and i have question regarding charging the phone. It supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 however the charger that was provided only supports QC 2.0.
I notice that whenever i plugged the phone to the charger that supports Qualcomm Quick Charge, my phone gets hot. I decided to do a little test, so I used an USB Charger Doctor that can read voltage and Amp that it delivered to the phone. I've also using Ampere to monitor my battery temperature. I'm gonna charge for about 36 minutes using Aukey charger. It has 3 ports with only 1 that supports QC 2.0, the rest of the two supports up to 5 volts at 2.4 amps.
Here's the result:
9 volts, 1.35 amps = 56% battery charged from 8%. Battery temps reach 43,2 C. Juice added, 48%.
5 volts, 1.71 amps = 43% battery charged from 7%. Battery temps reach just about 35 C. Juice added 36%.
It's clear that qualcomm quick charge is faster than the standard port, however it resulting in higher temps. And i know the fact that Lithium batteries hate high temperature. So which is the best for battery life? Higher Voltage lesser Amps, or Lower Voltage Higher Amps? Thanks in advance.

Fast Charging Using Nexus 5X Charger

Hey guys, just to let you all know on my findings. I have Nexus 5X charger (rated 5v 3A) and decided to try on my A1.
It goes from 63% (I think, I forgot to write down the actual %) to 100% in 45 minutes. Considering usually after 80% it will charge slowly, I think this is pretty quick time.
I'll test it again some more when the battery level is much lower and report back.
I'm on latest Oreo stable
OPR1.170623.026.7.12.29

are you measuring the charging amperage after 80%?
37% in 45 minutes isn't all that fast, imo.
I'll measure charge time tomorrow, stating start percentage and I'll look for what happens after 80%, to see how much it drops in charging amperage.

goofball2k said:
are you measuring the charging amperage after 80%?
37% in 45 minutes isn't all that fast, imo.
I'll measure charge time tomorrow, stating start percentage and I'll look for what happens after 80%, to see how much it drops in charging amperage.
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I didn't measure it's amperage, just check the time till it fully charged.
If do the math from this charge means from 0% can be fully charge in 82 minutes. That should be faster than stock charger. One caveat though, if it's really 63% and not 73% when I start charging it.
Now my phone already 2 hours SOT and almost an hour hotspot, but still left 74%. Not easy to deplete it's battery.
One more thing I forgot to mention in first post, I'm on latest Oreo stable.

xb360 said:
Hey guys, just to let you all know on my findings. I have Nexus 5X charger (rated 5v 3A) and decided to try on my A1.
It goes from 63% (I think, I forgot to write down the actual %) to 100% in 45 minutes. Considering usually after 80% it will charge slowly, I think this is pretty quick time.
I'll test it again some more when the battery level is much lower and report back.
I'm on latest Oreo stable
OPR1.170623.026.7.12.29
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From what I read, Quick Charge would use dynamic voltage (5v-20v) instead of utilizing higher amps to attain higher wattage charging.

Use ampere app to measure current.
For better results try charging it while its off from 0 to 100.
And try while its on.

cr0ssx21 said:
From what I read, Quick Charge would use dynamic voltage (5v-20v) instead of utilizing higher amps to attain higher wattage charging.
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I'm not sure if Nexus 5X charger is QC, it doesn't stated anywhere. But the amperage is higher than A1 stock charger.
alkesh95 said:
Use ampere app to measure current.
For better results try charging it while its off from 0 to 100.
And try while its on.
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Ok I'll try it when I charge later. Now the battery still left 50%. I'll drain it another 10% at least before charging.

its still same as before.
only below 2A
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Alright so my battery was at 42% when I plug in the charger. Using ampere it stated Max USB Curr is 2000mA. And the reading max is 1930mA while average is about 1800mA.
After 20 minutes it have gone up to 65%. Reached 90% after 43 minutes. At exactly one hour it reached 97%, which I checked ampere reading is 440mA. 100% reached at 64 minutes.
During charging I received a call which lasted about 3 minutes, which I use loud speaker for the call, so here might have added few minutes to it's charging time.
So I guess the speed is around the same when Oreo beta is?

Start time: 0805h
Battery: 38%
Check in time: 0905h
Battery: 87%
Did see that the amperage has lowered to around 1A after the battery reached past 80%. It definitely decreases after 90%, I'll check this the next time I charge.
I can run the test again with a different usb measuring tool. This first one seems to indicate a lower voltage than my other tool by about 0.2v (and amperage by about 0.2-0.3A. Although it should just be a passthrough for the power, it may be inhibiting the power sent to the phone.
The measured amount of power sent was ~1600mAh to get the phone to 90%. That seems about right for 52%, give or take.

i try with Honor 8 Pro QC charger (9v 2a) and it goes from 0 to 78% in 60 minutes, phone was off. I don't know the total time to 100%, sry

Stayed around 1400 mA for me above 80%

goofball2k said:
Start time: 0805h
Battery: 38%
Check in time: 0905h
Battery: 87%
Did see that the amperage has lowered to around 1A after the battery reached past 80%. It definitely decreases after 90%, I'll check this the next time I charge.
I can run the test again with a different usb measuring tool. This first one seems to indicate a lower voltage than my other tool by about 0.2v (and amperage by about 0.2-0.3A. Although it should just be a passthrough for the power, it may be inhibiting the power sent to the phone.
The measured amount of power sent was ~1600mAh to get the phone to 90%. That seems about right for 52%, give or take.
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Using Nexus 5X charger?
I got around 1800 average
Trusconi said:
i try with Honor 8 Pro QC charger (9v 2a) and it goes from 0 to 78% in 60 minutes, phone was off. I don't know the total time to 100%, sry
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That seems faster. I got a Huawei 9v 2a charger too, I'll test it after my battery dropped below 50%.
alkesh95 said:
Stayed around 1400 mA for me above 80%
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Stayed 1400 until full?
Using Nexus 5X charger?

xb360 said:
Using Nexus 5X charger?
I got around 1800 average
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1600mAh is the amount of power that was sent to the phone, as measured by my USB measuring tool. If you're talking about amperage during charging, I get around 1.9A on average. It fluctuates between 1.85 and 1.95A, and the voltage fluctuates between 4.95 and 5.20.
This is using a Tutuo charger which is capable of QC 3.0, and also 5v/2.4A.
I've tested using the regular 2.4A port and the QC port.
Basically, this phone does not request more than 2A at most, so even a 3A charger isn't going to make a difference.

I am using stock charger only. Don't have fast charger won't buy it unless phone supports it

goofball2k said:
1600mAh is the amount of power that was sent to the phone, as measured by my USB measuring tool. If you're talking about amperage during charging, I get around 1.9A on average. It fluctuates between 1.85 and 1.95A, and the voltage fluctuates between 4.95 and 5.20.
This is using a Tutuo charger which is capable of QC 3.0, and also 5v/2.4A.
I've tested using the regular 2.4A port and the QC port.
Basically, this phone does not request more than 2A at most, so even a 3A charger isn't going to make a difference.
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Looks like it, it won't accept above 2A. I want to try with 9v 2A charger, but after 24 hours and 2.5 hours SOT, the phone still have 75% battery.
alkesh95 said:
I am using stock charger only. Don't have fast charger won't buy it unless phone supports it
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Looks like surely no point to buy fast charger for now.
How much mA you get from ampere when using the stock charger and batter is less than 80%?

xb360 said:
Looks like it, it won't accept above 2A. I want to try with 9v 2A charger, but after 24 hours and 2.5 hours SOT, the phone still have 75% battery.
Looks like surely no point to buy fast charger for now.
How much mA you get from ampere when using the stock charger and batter is less than 80%?
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1700 mA -1900 mA +-50mA
Edit: since you are trying so hard.
From what i have read few years back when i had xperia zl
Incase of zl max current was capped at 1.5 A
QC 1 is 5V 2A our charger 10W
I bought Samsung 5v 2a charger for my zl. I still have it. Works fine. (Just adding history to context :laugh
QC 2 was designed to give 18W(average)
5v 2a QC1 compatibility
9v 2a QC2 18W output
12v 1.67a (from Wikipedia)
QC3 went with higher amps and dynamic voltage
Don't know anything about QC4
So give 9v 2a a try while measuring current take screenshots multiple times to track voltage since i don't know any other way to measure voltage except what ampere already shows.
PS: i know commands to read from proc and all but since i haven't rooted my device i won't ask you to go through that way.

I used lenovo charger which support 5v-2A, 7v-2A, 9v-2A and 12v-2A
Started charging 12:54 AM, battery at 4%, airplane mode activated
and these are the results

alkesh95 said:
1700 mA -1900 mA +-50mA
Edit: since you are trying so hard.
From what i have read few years back when i had xperia zl
Incase of zl max current was capped at 1.5 A
QC 1 is 5V 2A our charger 10W
I bought Samsung 5v 2a charger for my zl. I still have it. Works fine. (Just adding history to context :laugh
QC 2 was designed to give 18W(average)
5v 2a QC1 compatibility
9v 2a QC2 18W output
12v 1.67a (from Wikipedia)
QC3 went with higher amps and dynamic voltage
Don't know anything about QC4
So give 9v 2a a try while measuring current take screenshots multiple times to track voltage since i don't know any other way to measure voltage except what ampere already shows.
PS: i know commands to read from proc and all but since i haven't rooted my device i won't ask you to go through that way.
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I tried with 9v 2A charger, still capped at 5v and almost 2000mA.
One interesting finding is using the 9v and Dash charger plus their cable give consistently almost 2000mA, whereas if using Mi charger and cable; or Dash charger and Mi cable; or Mi charger and Dash cable; all give around 1700 to 1800mA averagely. I think Mi charger and cable is of lower quality and unable to max out 2A.
The conclusion that I found is if want a slightly faster charging then use other better quality charger and cable.
FSLRMH said:
I used lenovo charger which support 5v-2A, 7v-2A, 9v-2A and 12v-2A
Started charging 12:54 AM, battery at 4%, airplane mode activated
and these are the results
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That's as fast as when Oreo beta is. Like I suspected Mi original charger and cable unable to max out the ampere.

Thanks for all the hardwork???
This thread should be locked now and made into sticky.
Cause this is nothing short of a research on fast charging in Mi A1.

Hi There,
I just read that Mi has not opted for Quick Charge by paying royalty to Qualcomm. So they have disabled QC functions from software side, though chip is definitely capable.
By Mistake, they let Beta have QC functionality. But now that has been fixed.
We now have to find way to enable it ... If possible.