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Having a bad experience with SGS i9000 til now: (using cfw 2.3.4 with custom kernel - oced to 1200hz - ext4)
- Random lags
- Random crash/restart/freeze
- Slow task-switch
Does dual cores mobilephone like SGS 2, Optimus 3D, HTC sensation or Atrix actually will perform better (i bet so) than my current SGS?
Does Android OS and apps already optimized to use both cores?
i don't know if the apps or optimized yet, but i have noticed a little more "pep" in my daily use from my photon 4g compared to my Evo, even when i had it overclocked things weren't this smooth, so from a performance stand point, it's way better then most single cores, but then it's a whole new ball game when your dealing with dual core (tegra 2 vs snapdragon/qualcomm)
I can't say I really noticed much difference going from a SGS to Atrix, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if motoblur was playing apart in that.
Hmm... I tested SGS II the other day... it somehow much smoother than my current SGS with SGS II mod in it.
Strange, both phones clocked in 1.2ghz but SGS II is dual cores.
Didn't know that would affect the performance that much.
Switching transition from browser to games (restarted though...) to other apps seems flawless.
Anyone tried to compare a Desire with Sense 3.0 ROM with the Sensation? with 3D rosie - with weather live wallpaper and all other fancy stuffs turned on?
I am thinking of getting a dual core device but I am also not sure of the difference with the single core in real world, so I hope my question can help clarify me that.
shintorrent said:
Having a bad experience with SGS i9000 til now: (using cfw 2.3.4 with custom kernel - oced to 1200hz - ext4)
- Random lags
- Random crash/restart/freeze
- Slow task-switch
Does dual cores mobilephone like SGS 2, Optimus 3D, HTC sensation or Atrix actually will perform better (i bet so) than my current SGS?
Does Android OS and apps already optimized to use both cores?
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Yes,dual core processors are better than single core processors.
They provide better threading (which guarantees no lags and better process switching as each core can handle a certain process) and less power consumption (believe it or not,but they do).
The random restarts could be due to the kernel,the ROM or the fact that u are overclocking.
And it's got nothing to do with the apps,it's the kernel.
U see,the kernel is the link between the hardware and the firmware,so apps don't need to be optimized.
The manufacturers adjust the kernel and add some scripts to help handle the processes.
Clue,same apks that run on single core phones run on dual core phones.
Dual cores are significantly better. Yes, they do offer better threading, and less power consumption, but the thing you are missing is having a dual core processor running at 1.2 ghz is the equivalent of a single core processor running at 2.4 ghz, plus better task handling.All tasks will be smoother, and more multitasking features will be allowed.
This does not necessarily mean you will have no lags, sorry, but the experience will be better.
Based on everyone opinions... I can conclude Dual Processors are better for multi-tasking and better threading.
shintorrent said:
Based on everyone opinions... I can conclude Dual Processors are better for multi-tasking and better threading.
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Agree
By the way,it isn't correct that a dual core 1.2 is better than a single 2.4
You don't just put on 2x speed!!!
A single 1.5 is faster when it comes to operation response time than a dual 1.2, but a dual 1.2 is better to handle several linked or independent tasks running at the same time.
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The answer is pretty obvious, but to be honest high clock single core processors are more than enough for daily tasks.
I have been using my OCed G2, with no problems. It does everything I can throw at it, no problem. IMO, they have created too good of a product.
Same goes for computers. Hardware is becoming increasingly powerful, while still doing the same tasks.
gtmaster303 said:
The answer is pretty obvious, but to be honest high clock single core processors are more than enough for daily tasks.
I have been using my OCed G2, with no problems. It does everything I can throw at it, no problem. IMO, they have created too good of a product.
Same goes for computers. Hardware is becoming increasingly powerful, while still doing the same tasks.
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Of course you can do everything with a single core processor,but these are the actual differences between single and dual:
1-better threading which provides better multitasking operations.
2-less power consumption which means more time on the battery.
3-ability to overclock each core at a time provides you with both outrageous speed and better multitasking.
4-overclocking dual core processors is better than single cuz of the buffer space being bigger.
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Howdy everyone,
i happened to come across an app on the market called CPU Gauge and this demonstrates to you exactly what each core on your phone is doing at all times, even in your notification bar at all times. Now i have noticed no matter what i do there only ever seems to be 1 core running which is pretty pants i reckon. how can i enable it to run dual cores all of the time? i dont understand it personally, why have a dual channel architecture if its hardly ever used? and surely it having to decide whether to use one core over two and to send data down both channels or just the one is probably a reason why we get lag? i am probably completely wrong but id rather the cpus always be on and drain battery if it improves overall performance
androidfanboi said:
Howdy everyone,
i happened to come across an app on the market called CPU Gauge and this demonstrates to you exactly what each core on your phone is doing at all times, even in your notification bar at all times. Now i have noticed no matter what i do there only ever seems to be 1 core running which is pretty pants i reckon. how can i enable it to run dual cores all of the time? i dont understand it personally, why have a dual channel architecture if its hardly ever used? and surely it having to decide whether to use one core over two and to send data down both channels or just the one is probably a reason why we get lag? i am probably completely wrong but id rather the cpus always be on and drain battery if it improves overall performance
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Though a mod will move this thread please post questions in the general section this is for development purposes only..
But if what you say is true i will have to look into this. What rom are you currently running?
Just a rooted/overclocked LG stock gingerbread rom.
For me it shows 2 Cores working ,but second is ON only when needed (as it should be) So its OK. Lags are because of poor ram managment on LG software, I recommend Rushdroid ROM.
What I know, Android 2.3 and below does not provide a support for multi cores. However, ICS does support it. So, I think the phone will run much better when the ICS update comes.
abo_mara7 said:
What I know, Android 2.3 and below does not provide a support for multi cores. However, ICS does support it. So, I think the phone will run much better when the ICS update comes.
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nope. thasts only an urban legend But it can improve performance at some points, but I would be rather sceptic. Custom roms must be always better (what they are doing making software, making it slower on purpose? go Samsung way and hire cm team members)
In games it uses both cores but im dissapointed that when testing swapping between different apps and web browsing seemed to all be using just the one core, and that was with lags inbetween swapping from for instance gallery to browser. I love this phone great specs but it annoys me more and more to think LG really did have no clue when it came down to putting it all into action. is there any way to have 2 cores on at all times or atleast change the values that decide when to use second core/channel.
If anything it makes for an interesting discussion
IFLPI said:
nope. thasts only an urban legend But it can improve performance at some points, but I would be rather sceptic. Custom roms must be always better (what they are doing making software, making it slower on purpose? go Samsung way and hire cm team members)
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It has a partial support, not 100%, and the proof is that all dual core phones which received ICD update, got a huge improvement in the performance, as their users said.
androidfanboi said:
In games it uses both cores but im dissapointed that when testing swapping between different apps and web browsing seemed to all be using just the one core, and that was with lags inbetween swapping from for instance gallery to browser. I love this phone great specs but it annoys me more and more to think LG really did have no clue when it came down to putting it all into action. is there any way to have 2 cores on at all times or atleast change the values that decide when to use second core/channel.
If anything it makes for an interesting discussion
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The processor works as it should be, all cores when needed. Check System Panel app. Ram is the issue here. On stock it will be always laggy. On rushdroid and samba there is good ram management. Almost 250mb for the user. On stock i doubt if there is 130mb free available.
@up: there is no evidence that GB supports 1 core only and ICS multiple cores. A better performance on ICS can be due to the bigger optimizations, and hw support (that can be buggy) like gpu enabled scrolling etc.
But Ive heard that ics supports fully multicores, and that is an urban legend for me (no evidence) Ics can be just more optimized than gingerbread (and more like honeycomb which was quite fast)
IFLPI said:
The processor works as it should be, all cores when needed. Check System Panel app. Ram is the issue here. On stock it will be always laggy. On rushdroid and samba there is good ram management. Almost 250mb for the user. On stock i doubt if there is 130mb free available.
@up: there is no evidence that GB supports 1 core only and ICS multiple cores. A better performance on ICS can be due to the bigger optimizations, and hw support (that can be buggy) like gpu enabled scrolling etc.
But Ive heard that ics supports fully multicores, and that is an urban legend for me (no evidence) Ics can be just more optimized than gingerbread (and more like honeycomb which was quite fast)
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you are correct cores are working as they should be not a problem here at... Gingerbread supports multicore and does use the cpu to the max when needed, you don't need to run both your cores all the time if that was the case you would need to charge your phone every 3 hours....
The issue with our optimus 3d is it needs ram tweaks to keep it smooth, 512mb ram is good i am not complaining because it's dual channel and so on so the ram speed is amazing just to free up ram we have tweaks...
Also the cpu is used to the max when needed, when you make a call you do not need both cores working at the same time that would be pointless. But when you play games, browse the net and bench your device all cores are used at the same time...
if you want to try it (see the difference) with both cores enabled ,(and cpu speed at max) try system tuner app , in cpu setting put governor to "performance" the first core will go to max speed , then go to active tweak and there is an option to force all cpu on , try it , it will be hard for the battery... when you put governor back to hotplug , the second core will return on demand (on/off) . if you want to do it again after you have to redo all step and turn the force all cpu on off and on again...
i'm on v21D on rushdroid 3.6.3. Both cores show up as working. 1 core ususally hits 1.4ghz and 2nd one upto 1ghz during regular processing. Great app btw tnx for letting us know
Which kernel you use on rushdroid @1,4ghz?
IFLPI said:
Which kernel you use on rushdroid @1,4ghz?
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Titan kernal v21d
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Its not neccessary to use dual core all the times ,using dual core for small task degrade the performance that increasing. Since our phone have dual memory the cache plays an important role in deciding which core should be used.
Whats the best rom for low RAM usage? Please share your opinions so I can choose one rom haha
Thanks a lot!
Depends on your needs. Only for phone calls? Gambling? Chatting?
Slim ICS is pure basics.
I use BLACK ICE KANGORADE after testing a lot of ROM's with AirKernel 4.2 'cause it's the best allround ROM. Fantastic battery life, big mem support for a lot of apps, stable.
The best would be you test a few selected ROM's. Each 2 days a new ROM.
BLACK ICE KANGORADE, AOKP B38, KangyUltra, ASOP+ N8, MIUI, CyberGR.....
Like stated earlier, depends on your needs. You may benefit a little from bigmem support kernels if you do a lot of gaming. If it's just for day to day use, most ROMs offer the same RAM usage. Keep in mind Android handles RAM very well on its own. Just use trusted apps and you should be good(no memory leaks).
Sent by pocket technology.
CM9 Roms are really good for having a good amount of ram
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what's important is that you have to manage the memory yourself, this will make a bigger impact on ram than the rom does. get rid of anything you don't need: light weight launchers like Launcherpro uses 200k memory if you minimise the widgets, and FORCE STOP Facebook services when possible, it takes A LOT of ram. use no more background services than neccesary, clock/weather widgets uses ram because of their background services. i perfer slim ics, its da best.
I own my moto g from more than 3 years. The official update that we got for this device till lollipop, the device used to run fine for the hardware it had but compared to how it performs these days on these custom roms, especially the nougat ones, the performance has gone down so bad that it's pretty much struggling to perform even basic functions without the stutters or lags.
Now all that is understandable that it's an over 3 year old mid ranger but my questions are, 1) does everyone experience the same with their moto g, 2) what exactly has reduced the device's performance over time because it used to run fine on older android versions. So is it that the new android updates and apps etc aren't optimized for this old hardware or did the performance of these hardware components like the SoC just got reduced over time?
I'd be glad to read everyone's opinions below.
Personally, I don't experience any lag, decrease in performance, not even poor battery life running nougat (latest commotio), zero byte r4 kernel..
Could you be 'more specific' regarding your setup?
Ænimal said:
Personally, I don't experience any lag, decrease in performance, not even poor battery life running nougat (latest commotio), zero byte r4 kernel..
Could you be 'more specific' regarding your setup?
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Since when do you own the device?
hsn97 said:
Since when do you own the device?
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All the way from jelly bean
Greetings everybody,
I've been using my X3 Pro (Global) for 2 months and I'm seriously considering to install a custom ROM. I'm concerned the custom ROM will seriously hinder my benchmarks. I only play COD Mobile and I don't want to experience a drop in performance. I got 1009 on single core and 2901 on multi in Geekbench, and I just saw a video where an X3 device running a custom ROM scored 2300 in multi. That's a 600 score difference!
link to the video:
Thank you in advance.
Update:
after the MIUI 14.0.3 update, the benchmarks changed to 980, 2740, respectively.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-13-official-evolution-x-poco-x3-pro-vayu.4487643/
it's nice to know that you want use custom rom. As miui is not properly optimized for good gaming experience you can use custom rom to make your gaming experience better.
I suggest you to try evolution rom. As it provides large customization options and can give you a great experience while gaming.
Install custom Kernel like NoGravity and you can tweak your custom ROM to get maximized Benchmark scores.
Not like that will result in better FPS in games because your phone will throttle...