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I can start of I am coming from an LG G2, as we know G2 despite being little bit older is still today one of the fastest devices out there, with none microlag and very very fast animations.
So you can imagine the contrast was so big going from G2 to Mate 7. I did read reviews before buying this device that it was very fast and not laggy at alll..fast GUI.. CPU performance seemed also satisfied. I knew before I bought this device that the GPU performance and Camera was the weaker point, but especially the GPU. But I thought damn it is 2014, so it better be fast... the experience I have after been using Mate 7 for about a few days that the it is anything but fast and non laggy, I think the Mate 7 have constant microlag, the microlag is a big problem, but the biggest problem for me is the painfully slow animations!!!, all the animations especially when switching between apps, such as kik, skype, whatsapp, outlook, these animations are so painfully slow that is not acceptable! I am not lying but the G2 felt twice as fast. In current experience I feel like I have bought the wrong device, but Like the screen it looks better then expected (JDI made) I also like the screen ratio.
But the fact that the deceive is to slow make me very unproductive, and makes me think almost twice before switching and opening new apps.. with My G2 I did not have that in my mind at all I just pushed at all buttons without thinking about it and evertyhing the go very fast and smooth and fast transitions
My questions.
1. The painfully slow animations and microlag, is this realistically fixable with software ? or is the very weak GPU chip
to blame for this ?
2. What can I do to speed up animations and reduce the constant microlag and make drastic performance boost ? My philosophy is if your GPU can't handle all the animations then do not have them to begin with, but the truth is the phone looks like **** without them, I did actually turn them off in developer options but it looks so boring that it is hard to live with it.. the standard setting is 1x I leave at the and putting my hopes in future software updates.
3. Any news regarding Lollipop ?
Go to about phone option in settings and radio the build number 5-6 times.
Now go to developer options, scroll down and turn off the window transition animation scale and animator duration.
Hop e this helps...
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hannanzikrea said:
Go to about phone option in settings and radio the build number 5-6 times.
Now go to developer options, scroll down and turn off the window transition animation scale and animator duration.
Hop e this helps...
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Hello, as I did write, I did try to turn them off, but animations is essential, it is is important for a device to be fun to work with, turning them off looks the system looks very boring and non inspiring. Chaning the duration scale to 0.5x did help very slightly....is still very slow.. but I can understand if people getting used to the slowness but side by side with a different device it is very slow.. and the slow animations is to blame.. and every app use animations.
It seem like this, that until the app is loaded in the memory it is slow, the transition to open apps is very slow..
but the way you are using a smartphone is you close and open apps constantly, cause you have a lot of different messaging apps for instance you switch between them constantly.
I have the animations turned on and they are as fast as top-end devices in the market. And I am experiencing no lag at all. I have the 2GB version
This is coming from a previous owner of the LG G2 and HTC One M7 & M8
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I have the animations turned on and they are as fast as top-end devices in the market. And I am experiencing no lag at all. I have the 2GB version
This is coming from a previous owner of the LG G2 and HTC One M7 & M8
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Same I don't experience micro lags and I also have 16Gb ROM version..
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Same I don't experience micro lags and I also have 16Gb ROM version..
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So you can actually say you have a 60 FPS all the time ?
there is only 60 fps when you are at home screen but when opening and switching to app it is far below 60 fps..
I hope they get it fixed...
When the new update come I will do a factory reset also..I know that sometimes it can help..
Does any one know when we can expect a new update for European market ?
I am also disappointed after a few hours with the Mate 7 with 16GB. Using especially Chrome and there for example theverge.com the scrolling through the Website is often stuck, the overall performance is not so great I think.
I am using Yahoo Aviate as a Launcher, maybe this makes a difference? But using my 2013 Moto X with the same Setup and Apps is not so disappointing.
Tuesday I'll compare with the Nexus 6 and then decide which device will stay ...
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I can start of I am coming from an LG G2, as we know G2 despite being little bit older is still today one of the fastest devices out there, with none microlag and very very fast animations.
So you can imagine the contrast was so big going from G2 to Mate 7. I did read reviews before buying this device that it was very fast and not laggy at alll..fast GUI.. CPU performance seemed also satisfied. I knew before I bought this device that the GPU performance and Camera was the weaker point, but especially the GPU. But I thought damn it is 2014, so it better be fast... the experience I have after been using Mate 7 for about a few days that the it is anything but fast and non laggy, I think the Mate 7 have constant microlag, the microlag is a big problem, but the biggest problem for me is the painfully slow animations!!!, all the animations especially when switching between apps, such as kik, skype, whatsapp, outlook, these animations are so painfully slow that is not acceptable! I am not lying but the G2 felt twice as fast. In current experience I feel like I have bought the wrong device, but Like the screen it looks better then expected (JDI made) I also like the screen ratio.
But the fact that the deceive is to slow make me very unproductive, and makes me think almost twice before switching and opening new apps.. with My G2 I did not have that in my mind at all I just pushed at all buttons without thinking about it and evertyhing the go very fast and smooth and fast transitions
My questions.
1. The painfully slow animations and microlag, is this realistically fixable with software ? or is the very weak GPU chip
to blame for this ?
2. What can I do to speed up animations and reduce the constant microlag and make drastic performance boost ? My philosophy is if your GPU can't handle all the animations then do not have them to begin with, but the truth is the phone looks like **** without them, I did actually turn them off in developer options but it looks so boring that it is hard to live with it.. the standard setting is 1x I leave at the and putting my hopes in future software updates.
3. Any news regarding Lollipop ?
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why u didnt go for g3?
The ui is fluid and smooth, but I confirm the slow animations.
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why u didnt go for g3?
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Cause I do not like Samsung, they are a consecrative company when it comes to smartphones, I do not like physical home button. I think next year they will make radical changes I hope..
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The ui is fluid and smooth, but I confirm the slow animations.
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yes... especially the multitasking function is slow..takes way too long time before all the apps are presented to the screen which make the whole function slow to use.
But also animations and transisitations in general are slow, they are not 60 fps... and there is such a big difference between 60 fps and slower, it as another experience, where you do not need to think twice before opening an app or using the phone cause everything is so fast that you do not need to think twice about things..
blackinfinity said:
Cause I do not like Samsung, they are a consecrative company when it comes to smartphones, I do not like physical home button. I think next year they will make radical changes I hope..
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am not talking samsung yes samsung is crap see my sig
I was talking bout G3 so LG G3
Simona Simmy said:
am not talking samsung yes samsung is crap see my sig
I was talking bout G3 so LG G3
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Besides the form factor and screen to body ratio G3 is simply not a good phone, especially the screen is terrible and very dim, I would not be able to live with that since I want a more bright display. With Mate 7 I can use Full brightness all day if i need, because it have a larger battery then normal.
blackinfinity said:
Besides the form factor and screen to body ratio G3 is simply not a good phone, especially the screen is terrible and very dim, I would not be able to live with that since I want a more bright display. With Mate 7 I can use Full brightness all day if i need, because it have a larger battery then normal.
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Oh yeah .. I sold Honor 6 and purchased alpha samsung .. jesus christ when i turned phone and seen that crap display..
I wanted smash phone onto wall !! But I decided not to do it and resell it !
Now I have Mate 7 with PROPER bright screen ..
I was sad that I sold Honor 6 .. but I found Mate 7 for £300 pounds so bought it ..
Honor 6 , Ascend P7 and Mate 7 BEST screens on market !!
blackinfinity said:
yes... especially the multitasking function is slow..takes way too long time before all the apps are presented to the screen which make the whole function slow to use.
But also animations and transisitations in general are slow, they are not 60 fps... and there is such a big difference between 60 fps and slower, it as another experience, where you do not need to think twice before opening an app or using the phone cause everything is so fast that you do not need to think twice about things..
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Correct. Animations is below 60 fps.
mm79k said:
I have the animations turned on and they are as fast as top-end devices in the market. And I am experiencing no lag at all. I have the 2GB version
This is coming from a previous owner of the LG G2 and HTC One M7 & M8
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Me too. No lag here.
@blackinfinity
Try check some dodgy app which runs and causing slow down.. or reset/erase whole phone and start again .. It is worth..
I think you may already try this but did you go to Setting>Power Saving> change from Smart to Normal (I need high performance)
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I am also disappointed after a few hours with the Mate 7 with 16GB. Using especially Chrome and there for example theverge.com the scrolling through the Website is often stuck, the overall performance is not so great I think.
I am using Yahoo Aviate as a Launcher, maybe this makes a difference? But using my 2013 Moto X with the same Setup and Apps is not so disappointing.
Tuesday I'll compare with the Nexus 6 and then decide which device will stay ...
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It was the same on mine, and in fact, it was laspass app !
Removing this app and my phone is smooth again. theverge.com is a good test.
Hope it helps.
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I think you may already try this but did you go to Setting>Power Saving> change from Smart to Normal (I need high performance)
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This should work. other phones has their performance settings on default high, mate 7 use power saving mode as default.
I have Huawei Mate 7 MT7-L09 with official Android 6.0 C432B571 from here, bootloader unlocked and rooted.
The phone seems to be a bit laggy in general use, when working with apps etc. Is there any way how to improve it? I changed battery mode from intelligent to perfromance, which helped a bit, but I still feel that the phone with such hardware should perform better. I have LG G4 that should theoretically have similar performance (at least by Antutu), but it runs much smoother.
In addition, fingerprint sensor doesn't work reliably for me so I had to turn it off. And sometimes lock screen is not responding to touches at all after waking up the phone and I have to wait tens of seconds until it starts working (I use unlock gesture).
I am not sure whether the issues are caused by the ROM itself or some Huawei power saving features. Which ROM is the best for this phone? Do you also have some of the issues described?
Hi
I have exact the same issues and asked in different Boards ... But I don't get any functional response ...
Interesting...but good to know that I am not alone Did you test any other ROM or Android version? I got this phone a month ago, so I went directly to Android 6.0 and didn't try others...
lapist said:
I have Huawei Mate 7 MT7-L09 with official Android 6.0 C432B571 from here, bootloader unlocked and rooted.
The phone seems to be a bit laggy in general use, when working with apps etc. Is there any way how to improve it? I changed battery mode from intelligent to perfromance, which helped a bit, but I still feel that the phone with such hardware should perform better. I have LG G4 that should theoretically have similar performance (at least by Antutu), but it runs much smoother.
In addition, fingerprint sensor doesn't work reliably for me so I had to turn it off. And sometimes lock screen is not responding to touches at all after waking up the phone and I have to wait tens of seconds until it starts working (I use unlock gesture).
I am not sure whether the issues are caused by the ROM itself or some Huawei power saving features. Which ROM is the best for this phone? Do you also have some of the issues described?
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Hi,
A few things i did to make my Mate7 a bit snappier:
- in Phone Manager > Battery > Protected Apps, I added apps that i use alot, so that the phone doesnt close them, so starting them up again is quicker as they are still in RAM
- switch to Nova launcher, as it seems to be much smoother than the default launcher
- if you're rooted, i installed L Speed from the play store, and tinkered around with some settings there - seems to have sped up the phone alot
lapist said:
I have Huawei Mate 7 MT7-L09 with official Android 6.0 C432B571 from here, bootloader unlocked and rooted.
The phone seems to be a bit laggy in general use, when working with apps etc. Is there any way how to improve it? I changed battery mode from intelligent to perfromance, which helped a bit, but I still feel that the phone with such hardware should perform better. I have LG G4 that should theoretically have similar performance (at least by Antutu), but it runs much smoother.
In addition, fingerprint sensor doesn't work reliably for me so I had to turn it off. And sometimes lock screen is not responding to touches at all after waking up the phone and I have to wait tens of seconds until it starts working (I use unlock gesture).
I am not sure whether the issues are caused by the ROM itself or some Huawei power saving features. Which ROM is the best for this phone? Do you also have some of the issues described?
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Dear use Custom rom share by ale95,in rom there's a future tune cpu and gpu it'll help you to improve your device performance but every action make reaction if you want performance you'll have battery draining issues..
fazi2015 said:
Dear use Custom rom share by ale95,in rom there's a future tune cpu and gpu it'll help you to improve your device performance but every action make reaction if you want performance you'll have battery draining issues..
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Which ROM do you mean? "Ale95 KangVip V3.5" or "Honor 6 Plus KangVip Full Port" or something else? Is it better than stock ROM? What is the difference between those two?
lapist said:
I have Huawei Mate 7 MT7-L09 with official Android 6.0 C432B571 from here, bootloader unlocked and rooted.
The phone seems to be a bit laggy in general use, when working with apps etc. Is there any way how to improve it? I changed battery mode from intelligent to perfromance, which helped a bit, but I still feel that the phone with such hardware should perform better. I have LG G4 that should theoretically have similar performance (at least by Antutu), but it runs much smoother.
In addition, fingerprint sensor doesn't work reliably for me so I had to turn it off. And sometimes lock screen is not responding to touches at all after waking up the phone and I have to wait tens of seconds until it starts working (I use unlock gesture).
I am not sure whether the issues are caused by the ROM itself or some Huawei power saving features. Which ROM is the best for this phone? Do you also have some of the issues described?
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B514 is quite an old version of Android 6 for the Mate 7. Why don't you try upgrade to a newer version first, like B560? Alot of bug fixes were made in newer version which solved battery and performance issues.
cege987 said:
B514 is quite an old version of Android 6 for the Mate 7. Why don't you try upgrade to a newer version first, like B560? Alot of bug fixes were made in newer version which solved battery and performance issues.
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B514? I have B571, right?
B560 RAM usage
So I have the b560 fw running on my mt-l09. But while closing apps in multitask I became aware the system uses massive amounts of RAM, is this normal? Upon closing all apps it states it has 800 - 900 MB free from the 2 GB available. Any suggestions? Thanks a lot.
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So I have the b560 fw running on my mt-l09. But while closing apps in multitask I became aware the system uses massive amounts of RAM, is this normal? Upon closing all apps it states it has 800 - 900 MB free from the 2 GB available. Any suggestions? Thanks a lot.
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That is quite normal I guess...
Hello,
Like a lot of people on the various Oneplus 6 forums, I too am experiencing occasional micro-stutters in the UI. I wanted to start a discussion here for people who are also experiencing this and also to share various ways to mitigate it.
On my Oneplus 3 (had it for 2 years) I always had the GPU governor set to "performance" and it was always butter smooth with decent battery life. There were never any dropped frames or micro-stutters because everytime I touched my screen the GPU would jump to max (450Mhz) before dropping back down to minimum. This ensured a speedy UI when touching and scrolling the screen.
I want to repeat this on my Oneplus 6 but I'm having difficulty in getting the phone to use the performance GPU governor. I can set it to performance but doing so doesn't ramp the GPU to max frequency when touching the screen like it did on my Oneplus 3
I'm currently on OOS 5.1.8 rooted with magisk and running ElementalX kernel.
Can anyone please test this out on their phone - set performance GPU governor and check what happens to the GPU frequency when touching the screen (use a GPU frequency monitoring app). It should jump to MAX freqency but it doesn't for me.
I'm interested to know if it does for anyone else - perhaps on a different kernel than ElementalX
have this micro stuttering, very annoying ...
damn ,just as i was about to get a op6 after next week.
what exactly is this micro stuttering? im currently using a 6p and feel somewhat outdated with the snap810.
i get occassional lags and its annoying, and also stutters.
im surprised to see the stuttering in op6, if more ppl have this i might ditch the 6 and get a 5t..
EDIT: Darn, googled oneplus stuttering and it seems the 5t is affected too ._.'
If you are experiencing shuttering while scrolling as the finger is on the screen. It's an app with accessibility access causing it. Removing the app completely fixes it
leondestiny said:
damn ,just as i was about to get a op6 after next week.
what exactly is this micro stuttering? im currently using a 6p and feel somewhat outdated with the snap810.
i get occassional lags and its annoying, and also stutters.
im surprised to see the stuttering in op6, if more ppl have this i might ditch the 6 and get a 5t..
EDIT: Darn, googled oneplus stuttering and it seems the 5t is affected too ._.'
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Don't listen to him, he's full of crap honestly. If you CHOOSE to obsess over minor non-issues that 99.9% of people won't notice, that's your (OP's) problem, not OnePlus's. This phone is faster than anything on the market and if OP is really so desperate to find something better he's more than welcome to develop his own ROMs and kernels, or produce his own phone that he thinks is perfect and see how many people buy it.
TheNetwork said:
Don't listen to him, he's full of crap honestly. If you CHOOSE to obsess over minor non-issues that 99.9% of people won't notice, that's your (OP's) problem, not OnePlus's. This phone is faster than anything on the market and if OP is really so desperate to find something better he's more than welcome to develop his own ROMs and kernels, or produce his own phone that he thinks is perfect and see how many people buy it.
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honestly i was paranoid for a while only, i know the op6 is the phone to get for me.
i will probably get one after like 10 days..
i bet it will be like night and day difference between my 6p ..
excited to get it, which color would you recommend?
i wanted the grey version initially but i heard it can be slippery?
the black one will have more grip but is a fingerprint magnet, what about the white one.. hmm
i guess either of the 3 will be fine, will see what they have i guess.
and i think OP could fix his stutters simply by rooting and flashing some goodies.
i root my phones day1 XD
i hope dev support will be good for OP6, heard that theres that a/b thing.
and some roms called treble roms? apparently are not so stable, but that there will eventually be normal custom roms..
plus i saw nathan in the op6 section, theres flash kernel for the op6 baby..
cant go wrong with this one..
now i only need to find myself a good glass screen protector ,since the one it comes with is a plastic sp.
TheNetwork said:
Don't listen to him, he's full of crap honestly. If you CHOOSE to obsess over minor non-issues that 99.9% of people won't notice, that's your (OP's) problem, not OnePlus's. This phone is faster than anything on the market and if OP is really so desperate to find something better he's more than welcome to develop his own ROMs and kernels, or produce his own phone that he thinks is perfect and see how many people buy it.
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Mind your own business. Minor non issues, yeah sure. You obviously have no idea what op is talking about.
i too have noticed it, and i'm using franken kernel
masri1987 said:
i too have noticed it, and i'm using franken kernel
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Something like an app is causing that. I can run through apps, scroll constantly in settings, scroll and surf on the web constantly with no stopping and I get maybe 1 frame lost every 20 seconds or so. I have like 60 apps installed.
I'm using stock , never rooted , I have never notice this stutter.
I have rooted alot of phones too, just not the op6 because I see no need to.
Maybe faulty units ?
If you want to see stutter use the s8 lol.
I noticed does drops also. But whit https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/development/kernel-franken-t3799290/ newest version it almost gone for me. Very little when it occurs.
For me those drops are gone again after a reboot, but they are always coming back.
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For me those drops are gone again after a reboot, but they are always coming back.
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Yes, I noticed that, so far almost a day and no annoying stutters, hope so to stay that way ? will report how it will stay after a night.
Driver007 said:
Yes, I noticed that, so far almost a day and no annoying stutters, hope so to stay that way ? will report how it will stay after a night.
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That's mostly when they are coming back for me, after a long time of idling. Let us know, thanks!
Fully stock phone. No microstutters, but the frames do drop from 60+ normally to about 30 on some ui interactions. Still smooth to the eye though.
I've come to the conclusion that the UI stutters and animation jank is much worse in 5.1.8 so I am downgrading to 5.1.6 until Oneplus sorts it's Oxygen OS out. There are clearly problems within OOS itself with stutters. Many others are also observing this too and those who are not, are either not bothered by it (maybe used Samsung previously so are used to it) or simply don't see it even though it is there.
The proof of this is that I have set performance governors on both big and little CPU clusters AND also set performance GPU governor (so in effect, throwing the entire resources of Oneplus 6 at the UI) and still there are dropped frames all over the UI. Hell, even my old Oneplus 3 was never nearly this bad and was buttery smooth in comparison. I am completely disappointed with this phone having been superbly impressed with the Oneplus 3. These kind of UI stutters are why I don't touch Samsung anymore and I thought I had found refuge in Oneplus phones
I'm probably going to get a Pixel 3 next time round and if I can't get a buttery smooth UI on Oneplus 6. I'm begginning to consider selling it and moving on such is my frustration and disappointment.
Come on Oneplus! you can do better than this
Edit: before anyone starts saying anything, I DON'T have xposed or any fancy mods. All I have is stock OOS with Magisk rooted. I have tried 3 different kernels on 5.1.8 - Elemental, Stock and Blu_spark. All produce these stutters/frame drops.
carlos67 said:
I've come to the conclusion that the UI stutters and animation jank is much worse in 5.1.8 so I am downgrading to 5.1.6 until Oneplus sorts it's Oxygen OS out. There are clearly problems within OOS itself with stutters. Many others are also observing this too and those who are not, are either not bothered by it (maybe used Samsung previously so are used to it) or simply don't see it even though it is there.
The proof of this is that I have set performance governors on both big and little CPU clusters AND also set performance GPU governor (so in effect, throwing the entire resources of Oneplus 6 at the UI) and still there are dropped frames all over the UI. Hell, even my old Oneplus 3 was never nearly this bad and was buttery smooth in comparison. I am completely disappointed with this phone having been superbly impressed with the Oneplus 3. These kind of UI stutters are why I don't touch Samsung anymore and I thought I had found refuge in Oneplus phones
I'm probably going to get a Pixel 3 next time round and if I can't get a buttery smooth UI on Oneplus 6. I'm begginning to consider selling it and moving on such is my frustration and disappointment.
Come on Oneplus! you can do better than this
Edit: before anyone starts saying anything, I DON'T have xposed or any fancy mods. All I have is stock OOS with Magisk rooted. I have tried 3 different kernels on 5.1.8 - Elemental, Stock and Blu_spark. All produce these stutters/frame drops.
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Can you post the bug reports or your observations to official oneplus bug reporting platform?
This will draw their attention and issue might be solved much faster than posting it here.
https://forums.oneplus.com/feedback/
Thanks
sarus_b said:
Can you post the bug reports or your observations to official oneplus bug reporting platform?
This will draw their attention and issue might be solved much faster than posting it here.
https://forums.oneplus.com/feedback/
Thanks
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Have just submitted a bug report to Oneplus. Thanks for the link :good:
I suggest anyone else experiencing this does the same. If we all do then Oneplus may take notice.
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Have just submitted a bug report to Oneplus. Thanks for the link :good:
I suggest anyone else experiencing this does the same. If we all do then Oneplus may take notice.
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Share link so I can confirm it
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Share link so I can confirm it
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The post immediatly above mine
update 2 : i posted a video on youtube for the lowered sensitivity of pocophone f1 8.11.29 and compared it to note 9 touch to settle the debate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cALkjau09xs
update : about the touch there seem to be a debate whether it is improved or not .. i just did a reset and discovered that by default the google keyboard has no borders and full gesture is not enabled .. so if you set the theme of the gboard to enable key borders and enabled full screen gesture you will definitely feel the lower edge space bar problems and that allover sensitivity is lowered
thought to write my initial impressions about 8.11.29 open beta software .. it was released couple of hours ago and i updated from 8.11.15 with ota and no reset done
hdr still works in youtube
youtube full screen support is there
hevc 4k60 10 bit files now works flawlessly on mi video app
camera noise during low light conditions improved but on the expense of details as there is some kind of photo softness introduced
there is a small bug too which is still there google keyboard key-presses sound is mute every restart and you have to turn it off and on again to enable
PUBG touch is fixed
my analysis for the touch :
1st they reduced touch sensitivity a bit and i think this was done as some people complained from over-sensitivity with cables touching screen and stuff .. the problem i see this is normal and it didn't deserve to lower sensitivity for as this is how touch works .. the flow of electric charge from your hand pass through the cable and reach the screen
2nd ghost multitouch issue is there but i only tested with multitouch tester and i didnt notice it while working on the mobile
3rd now if i put the mobile on the chair hand and do not catch it with my hand 95% of touches are not registered which proves they lowered sensitivity ( the percentage may differ with mobile position grounding and battery level and charging or not )
4th the edges touch is less sensitive specially the lower part and space bar in addition to their lag so the keyboard is not usable now and will give you lots of space bar mistakes .. i think this is because of the lowered sensitivity all over the screen in addition to crippled edges touch from the start (using full screen gestures)
5th this is complicated it is how the PUBG was fixed : there was a user here on xda and miui that complained of particular touch issue were small turns were laggy and not registered .. this was completely fixed and PUBG plays excellent now
so to sum this up apparently edges have some sort of hardware problem and it will not be better than 8.11.15 so they should return sensitivity to 8.11.15 level so keyboard is usable again and keep the PUBG fix .. i think this will be the best partial fix for touch issues .. as by now i am convinced that they dont have a 100 % fix .. i was surprised they even fixed PUBG but who knows .. so now keyboard is in an unusable state if you turn on fullscreen gestures and cancelled the homescreen buttons .. so temporarily solutions till fix #1 you need to turn on the home buttons bar and wait for a fix or #2 disable keyboard borders in gboard theme and enable fullscreen gestures
i will add edit this post later and add rest of my impressions to this post as i test the phone
please share yours .. also do you see that i need to reset the phone before assessing the update ?!
Touch issue is still present, but different.
It is less than before, however now I notice it mostly on the spacebar. (In fullscreen mode)
While typing, it sometimes doesn't register me pressing the spacebar entirely. Does someone has the the same feeling about this?
knallex said:
Touch issue is still present, but different.
It is less than before, however now I notice it mostly on the spacebar. (In fullscreen mode)
While typing, it sometimes doesn't register me pressing the spacebar entirely. Does someone has the the same feeling about this?
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yes i was testing the touch this last hour and i agree with you about the space bar and i will tell you my anaylsis
but as a starter and to cheer people up PUBG turn touch lag is fixed and now small turns are registered without a lag
so again PUBG touch fixed
my analysis for the touch :
1st they reduced touch sensitivity a bit and i think this was done as some people complained from over-sensitivity with cables touching screen and stuff .. the problem i see this is normal and it didn't deserve to lower sensitivity for as this is how touch works .. the flow of electrons from your hand pass through the cable and reach the screen
2nd ghost multitouch issue is there but i only tested with multitouch tester and i didnt notice it while working on the mobile
3rd now if i put the mobile on the chair hand and do not catch it with my hand 95% of touches are not registered which proves they lowered sensitivity ( the percentage my differ with mobile position grounding and battery level and charging or not )
4th the edges touch is less sensitive specially the lower part and space bar in addition to their lag so the total experience here with keyboard is not good and will give you lots of space bar mistakes .. i think this is because of the lowered sensitivity all over the screen in addition to crippled edges touch from the start
5th this is comlpicated it is how the PUBG was fixed : there was a user here on xda and miui that complained of particular touch issue were small turns were laggy and not registered .. this was completely fixed and PUBG plays excellent now
so to sum this up apparently edges have some sort of hardware problem and it will not be better than 8.11.15 so they should return sensitivity to 8.11.15 level and keep the PUBG fix .. i think this will be the best partial fix for touch issues .. as by now i am convinced that they dont have a 100 % fix .. i was surprised they even fixed PUBG but who knows
Agreed, however the screen now flickers a lot and the user experience is very poor due to this.
I never had any touch issues and even now it's fine.
[email protected] said:
Agreed, however the screen now flickers a lot and the user experience is very poor due to this.
I never had any touch issues and even now it's fine.
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what do you mean by flickering rajeev ?! i didnt notice any flickering while using the mobile and playing videos or games .. the only flicker i saw is in camera in certain modes while recording video and i think this can be easily fixed by xiaomi team i think
So, after this final update the touchscreen works awful.
I mean, I never had screen bleeding or touch issues with this phone, but this last update really killed it. I have to often press twice on something to open it. Looks like it does not have the same sensitivity like before.
Very anoying.
Al3xxxinho said:
So, after this final update the touchscreen works awful.
I mean, I never had screen bleeding or touch issues with this phone, but this last update really killed it. I have to often press twice on something to open it. Looks like it does not have the same sensitivity like before.
Very anoying.
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i dont know why they lowered the sensitivity ??!! i have been investigating till i found a couple of posts complaining from over-sensitivity but apparently they were talking with some one important .. of course any mobile screen will be touch sensitive to cables thats no brainer hhhhhh
https://en.miui.com/thread-4141753-2-1.html
Well, it seems to be f*cked up to the point i have to press very hard on the screen to register touches. Yesterday everything was smooth and perfect, and now ... I'm thinking of selling this and buy myself a real phone ...
Al3xxxinho said:
Well, it seems to be f*cked up to the point i have to press very hard on the screen to register touches. Yesterday everything was smooth and perfect, and now ... I'm thinking of selling this and buy myself a real phone ...
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i know what you mean but since rest of features such as hdr works flawless for me now i can endure a couple of weeks for a better fix .. but eventually i will sell it too when i found an appropriate one .. pocophone sold out from egypt so i will have no problem selling it under warranty anytime .. i will stick for a couple of months
For me stable 10.0.6.0 is the best. I hope MIUI team will release a good stable based on android 9
mustafa811 said:
what do you mean by flickering rajeev ?! i didnt notice any flickering while using the mobile and playing videos or games .. the only flicker i saw is in camera in certain modes while recording video and i think this can be easily fixed by xiaomi team i think
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Flicker is very visible on the lock screen. Touch sensitivity has gone down as well
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Flicker is very visible on the lock screen. Touch sensitivity has gone down as well
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no it is not present on mine .. my friends call me pixel peeper .. did you try to reset yours .. anyway i will use a camera to spot any flicker out of the normal and infrom you if present .. only flicker noticed in camera video rear and front
update : i just took a photo of my mobile screen with shutter speed at 1/30 and there is no flicker .. but i saw couple of posts complaining of your problem .. how did you update to 8.11.29
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no it is not present on mine .. my friends call me pixel peeper .. did you try to reset yours .. anyway i will use a camera to spot any flicker out of the normal and infrom you if present .. only flicker noticed in camera video rear and front
update : i just took a photo of my mobile screen with shutter speed at 1/30 and there is no flicker .. but i saw couple of posts complaining of your problem .. how did you update to 8.11.29
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Try to record on low brightness, it's using PWM backlight at low level.
But I thought everyone known this already?
mustafa811 said:
the flow of electrons from your hand pass through the cable and reach the screen
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Wait, what? xD
The wiring of cables are always covered with an insulator which restricts the flow of electrons on the outer surface, so it's definitely the over-sensitivity which is the devil here.
This issue is not present in custom ROMs as the devs have managed to implement the fix from 8.11.15 and 8.11.23.
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Wait, what? xD
The wiring of cables are always covered with an insulator which restricts the flow of electrons on the outer surface, so it's definitely the over-sensitivity which is the devil here.
This issue is not present in custom ROMs as the devs have managed to implement the fix from 8.11.15 and 8.11.23.
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i changed electrons to electric charge to be precise .. also i have acer iconia w700 tablet that register touches from cables .. also my note 5 do this .. there is nothing called over-sensitivity except when it affects things or cause a malfunction .. if over-sensitivity was present i never felt a malfunction from it and pubg game touch issues was not related to over-sensitivity at all and there was a complete topic here taking about this specific poblem
on the other side almost all ppl complain from touch problems and screen edges that do not register touches as center .. so you take a decision to lower sensitivity ????!!!!! thats weird and i cannot comprehend till now
do you know that if i used the side of my finger vs the tip touch differs .. so there is difference between ppl and you cannot go lower sensitivity on a phone ppl complaining about its touch issues
also dont forget the screen protector that has its toll on touch sensitivity .. all these factors must be considered
their only excuse that this is a beta
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i changed electrons to electric charge to be precise .. also i have acer iconia w700 tablet that register touches from cables .. also my note 5 do this .. there is nothing called over-sensitivity except when it affects things or cause a malfunction .. if over-sensitivity was present i never felt a malfunction from it and pubg game touch issues was not related to over-sensitivity at all and there was a complete topic here taking about this specific poblem
on the other side almost all ppl complain from touch problems and screen edges that do not register touches as center .. so you take a decision to lower sensitivity ????!!!!! thats weird and i cannot comprehend till now
do you know that if i used the side of my finger vs the tip touch differs .. so there is difference between ppl and you cannot go lower sensitivity on a phone ppl complaining about its touch issues
also dont forget the screen protector that has its toll on touch sensitivity .. all these factors must be considered
their only excuse that this is a beta
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Ahhhhh! I get it now!
But my verdict is that Xiaomi released this phone with just pure excitement and nothing else. They did not optimize the phone for users' convenience. This is a beta phone and they'll PROBABLY hit the right note with the successor of this phone. And worst part, we've surrendered ourselves as 'testers' for this phone. :/
Al3xxxinho said:
So, after this final update the touchscreen works awful.
I mean, I never had screen bleeding or touch issues with this phone, but this last update really killed it. I have to often press twice on something to open it. Looks like it does not have the same sensitivity like before.
Very anoying.
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Exactly. I too never had touch issues before this update.
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I had done the multi touch test when I bought this smartphone and it registered all the 10 touches easily in the first go. Now, after this update it won't even register 5 touches without trying repeatedly.
I also noticed unresponsive touch problem with .23 and .29 beta updates. I didn't have this touch problem with .15 beta and below. Also, the lock screen flickers on .29. Most probably due to auto brightness I think. While using facelock, the screen brightness changes like crazy. Tried .29 with global beta, EU rom and globe rom, and with franko kernel. The screen flickers like super fast brightness change from low to high to low continuously with all.
Reverted back to .15 now, and touch is good now. And also no screen flickering.
petraru1 said:
For me stable 10.0.6.0 is the best. I hope MIUI team will release a good stable based on android 9
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Same here, work flow less on oreo based miui 10.0.6.0
mustafa811 said:
no it is not present on mine .. my friends call me pixel peeper .. did you try to reset yours .. anyway i will use a camera to spot any flicker out of the normal and infrom you if present .. only flicker noticed in camera video rear and front
update : i just took a photo of my mobile screen with shutter speed at 1/30 and there is no flicker .. but i saw couple of posts complaining of your problem .. how did you update to 8.11.29
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I installed the full rom- 1.7gb and the flicker is gone from lockscreen.
HI ALL,
I have Samsung s21 plus exynos 8gb running latest one ui 4.1 but it is very slow lags a lot even sometime when unlocking phone it shutter a lot and even when I'm watching videos I scroll down the status bar it lags , the performance isn't like flagship any suggestions? any lead to fix would be apappreciated ..
The only time I notice a slow performance is when the phone hot, but it rarely happen to me. If the phone is slowing even when the phone is not hot, then you probably got a bad device.
I'm using Exynos though.
Unlock the bootloader with volume up and down when it is off and connected to the computer, save all your stuff because the phone will be formatted.
Then test the performance of your phone again, it happened to me but that's how I solved it strangely, I had already formatted it many times but it was always the same so I unlocked it and that's how I managed to solve that error.
I have no idea why it is but it happened to me in the exynos version, today it works as it should, less in emulators because they are not very compatible due to their api and/or OpenGL