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[Q] Headphone jack

As HTC provide the worse headphones ever, I thought I'd try my Samsung ones instead. They are also 4 pin, like the HTC ones, however they don't work properly, there is a weird echoy effect on vocals and bass seams almost non-existent.
Anyone know what's going on here? Is it the socket or the headphones?
I obviously need to buy some new headphones, will I have problems with non HTC headphones?

Philio25 said:
As HTC provide the worse headphones ever, I thought I'd try my Samsung ones instead. They are also 4 pin, like the HTC ones, however they don't work properly, there is a weird echoy effect on vocals and bass seams almost non-existent.
Anyone know what's going on here? Is it the socket or the headphones?
I obviously need to buy some new headphones, will I have problems with non HTC headphones?
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I have never used the HTC headphones - I just use a set of Sony earphones with a standard stereo jack and they work fine (although obviously no inline mic/controls)

I use apple headphones on my desire. They sound perfect and the middle button along with the microphone are working. Probably they have used a similar jack on the Sensation so if you can get some apple headphones, try it.

Sounds like it'll be ok then, thanks!

Philio25 said:
Sounds like it'll be ok then, thanks!
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Care to comment on how it sounds?

I highly recommend these, which I used as replacement headphones on my HTC Desire, and which work perfectly on my HTC Sensation.
They won the What Hi-Fi "Headphones under £50" award in 2010, and sound excellent. One word of warning, though, if you pay anything less than £30 (particularly around the £12 mark on eBay or from Amazon Marketplace sellers) then they are fakes.
http://www.play.com/Electronics/Ele...300-Mark-II-Precision-Headphones/Product.html

Turns out that the issue was the old Samsung SGS headphones, they only seem to work on the SGS properly.
I pinched my finance's SGS2 headphones and they work fine!

giorgisp said:
I use apple headphones on my desire. They sound perfect and the middle button along with the microphone are working. Probably they have used a similar jack on the Sensation so if you can get some apple headphones, try it.
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obviously not bothered about sound quality are you??
if you use any earphones provided by phones/mp3 players...then you can't complain about sound quality from the device.
Anything under £100 for earphones or £200 for headphones is bad sound quality.
Also, do you really think a phone provider would supply good quality expensive headphones? that'd just boost the price of the device...Seeing an ipod user using their white earhones makes me facepalm. They're the cheapest sounding earphones available. might as well just use the speaker whilst it's in your pocket.

Barff1984 said:
obviously not bothered about sound quality are you??
if you use any earphones provided by phones/mp3 players...then you can't complain about sound quality from the device.
Anything under £100 for earphones or £200 for headphones is bad sound quality.
Also, do you really think a phone provider would supply good quality expensive headphones? that'd just boost the price of the device...Seeing an ipod user using their white earhones makes me facepalm. They're the cheapest sounding earphones available. might as well just use the speaker whilst it's in your pocket.
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This is a whole different topic all together. There are also more factors than just the quality of the headphones which determine audio quality.

DAC/Headphone Question

Thanks for looking! Why, when using the dongle, do my crappy $30 Sennheiser buds sound exponentially better than my $100 ones? makes no sense? The bass but just in general, it is night and day. The cheap ones are closer to the Usonic than the $100 ones. Any thoughts?
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-M...013WQINNE/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EZYMF4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

crownroyal1 said:
Thanks for looking! Why, when using the dongle, do my crappy $30 Sennheiser buds sound exponentially better than my $100 ones? makes no sense? The bass but just in general, it is night and day. The cheap ones are closer to the Usonic than the $100 ones. Any thoughts?
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-M...013WQINNE/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EZYMF4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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How can we give answer on this? First of all sound taste is different for everybody.
And a 100 dollar headphone says nothing about sound quality. Look at Beat headphones sounds like crap and costs a lot of money.
Just plug it in an other audio device and you should hear the same difference.
I found the Usonic way to bassy. While others like that.

*justintime* said:
How can we give answer on this? First of all sound taste is different for everybody.
And a 100 dollar headphone says nothing about sound quality. Look at Beat headphones sounds like crap and costs a lot of money.
Just plug it in an other audio device and you should hear the same difference.
I found the Usonic way to bassy. While others like that.
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I have used both of these on my HTC M9 for 2 years(ish) and the more expensive one sounded much better than the cheaper ones as you would expect, but for whatever reason, using the dongle, they don't. It sounds awful. The difference is huge. it is not subjective. I am baffled.

crownroyal1 said:
I have used both of these on my HTC M9 for 2 years(ish) and the more expensive one sounded much better than the cheaper ones as you would expect, but for whatever reason, using the dongle, they don't. It sounds awful. The difference is huge. it is not subjective. I am baffled.
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What it's lacking than?
Only thing i van think of is the impedance difference
C300 16 ohm
Momentum 18 ohm
I have the Momentum (also 18 ohm) over ear and it sounds decent. Not great... But OK.

*justintime* said:
What it's lacking than?
Only thing i van think of is the impedance difference
C300 16 ohm
Momentum 18 ohm
I have the Momentum (also 18 ohm) over ear and it sounds decent. Not great... But OK.
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Yeah, it is so tinny sounding, i am shocked. I will try again tonight on my M9 and see. but the cheap ones sound full and "fine" with the dongle, as expected I guess, where the "better" ones sound tinny, no bass at all. And I am not talking like Beats type bass, or even Usonic. Just nothing.....Oh well, thanks for the response, it will remain a mystery I guess!

*justintime* said:
What it's lacking than?
Only thing i van think of is the impedance difference
C300 16 ohm
Momentum 18 ohm
I have the Momentum (also 18 ohm) over ear and it sounds decent. Not great... But OK.
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Yep, the adapter perhaps isn't driving them properly for whatever reason.

Very interested in this thread. Any more users care to share their experience regarding this? I have the HTC 10 and sound quality is very important to me.
Cheers

Badelhas said:
Very interested in this thread. Any more users care to share their experience regarding this? I have the HTC 10 and sound quality is very important to me.
Cheers
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The new setup on the U11 takes a small hit in audio volume when you are plugged in as opposed to the 10. In my car the U11 could stand to be a little bit louder (I may install a DAC to boost it) but in my truck which has a much more robust sound system, the U11 performs fine and I have plenty of volume to spare. So it all just depends on your specific audio sources, from headphones to home and auto. For me, the Usonic headphones are fine for on the go.

pumah350 said:
The new setup on the U11 takes a small hit in audio volume when you are plugged in as opposed to the 10. In my car the U11 could stand to be a little bit louder (I may install a DAC to boost it) but in my truck which has a much more robust sound system, the U11 performs fine and I have plenty of volume to spare. So it all just depends on your specific audio sources, from headphones to home and auto. For me, the Usonic headphones are fine for on the go.
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I agree, the audio is very good. For whatever reason, one of my "better" headphones won't play nicely with the U11 which is why i started this. The usonic and my cheap buds both sound great as does bluetooth through both my car and speakers.

Oneplus 6 + Meizu EP52

I found the Bullets Wireless to be quite expensive for me.. and I'm thinking of EP52... Has anyone tried it with The oneplus 6? What's the sound quality like ?

$20 difference.

intruda119 said:
$20 difference.
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It's actually 40 ?
Have you tried it ?

I have the Meizu EP52 and the OP6. I'l try it in a while and let you know!

Suarezian said:
I have the Meizu EP52 and the OP6. I'l try it in a while and let you know!
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Thanks ?

ramqashou said:
Thanks
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Just checked it, and it sounds really good. I'm not an audiophile, so I can't get into deeper details, but I'm loving it so far.

The phone has a headphone jack. Instead of spending money on wireless tech, get better quality sound.

nabbed said:
The phone has a headphone jack. Instead of spending money on wireless tech, get better quality sound.
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Thanks bro ?.. ordering them Right now

nabbed said:
The phone has a headphone jack. Instead of spending money on wireless tech, get better quality sound.
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I already have quality wired headphones... But I want another pair of wireless earpods cuz they're much more convenient and easier to handle at the gym

ramqashou said:
I already have quality wired headphones... But I want another pair of wireless earpods cuz they're much more convenient and easier to handle at the gym
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I think I understand. You want quality sound plus wireless tech. $40 Meizus aren't probably gonna cut it. If you want wireless, this is probably as cheap as you can get. If you want quality, $150 wired is probably as cheap as you can get. Combine the two features, and you are looking for at least $200 or more.

I just treated myself to a set of hi-res Bluetooth earphones. £70 which is not cheap but they sound amazing & equal to more expensive wired solutions.

dwj said:
I just treated myself to a set of hi-res Bluetooth earphones. £70 which is not cheap but they sound amazing & equal to more expensive wired solutions.
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What earphones ?

Prostereo H2 earphones. Hi-res Bluetooth audio codecs are enabled in android 8.1 and these earphones will use the aptxHD and LDAC codecs which promise "better than cd" sound quality.
Ive tried them with some downloaded hi-res music files and they certainly sound great and as good as more expensive wired earphones but with the wireless convenience.

Audio Quality via USB C dongle

Can anyone tell me what the quality of the audio is like via the USB C dongle into in-ear headphones?
I'm coming from the HTC 10 and love the audio output on this device and what to know if HTC has managed to achieve similar levels of audio on the HTC u12+.

I came from the HTC 10 as well, and honestly, I think it sounds better using these than the headphones it came with. That Razer dongle with built-in DAC is amazing.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07798HM3H/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.htc.com/us/accessories-b/#!pid=htc-10&acc=htc-pro-studio-earphones

holz75 said:
I came from the HTC 10 as well, and honestly, I think it sounds better using these than the headphones it came with. That Razer dongle with built-in DAC is amazing.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07798HM3H/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.htc.com/us/accessories-b/#!pid=htc-10&acc=htc-pro-studio-earphones
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Thanks for letting me know about the audio quality via the Razor USB C dongle. This makes it even more tempting to pull the trigger and get the HTC U12+.
I've been toying between this and the Oneplus 6, due to the fact it's got a 3.mm headphone jack, but I'd be worried the audio wouldn't be too much and I'd need to start messing around with lots of mods to get it sounding good.
Just need to save a bit more now!

greenza said:
Thanks for letting me know about the audio quality via the Razor USB C dongle. This makes it even more tempting to pull the trigger and get the HTC U12+.
I've been toying between this and the Oneplus 6, due to the fact it's got a 3.mm headphone jack, but I'd be worried the audio wouldn't be too much and I'd need to start messing around with lots of mods to get it sounding good.
Just need to save a bit more now!
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Even with the current HTC USB-C-to-3.5mm dongle it sounds much better. Even better than on the U11. The Razor dongle, as far as I heard might add a little bit more to it, but that's kind of personal taste.
Using the JBL USB-C Reflect Aware ANC headphones currently. Those are damn great In-Ears.
Sent from my HTC U12+ using XDA Labs

I came from a HTC 10 and had a hard time finding something that sounds as good... The HTC oem 3.5 adapter is sold out everywhere so i haven't tried that one. I have tried 4 different adapters from Amazon, one generic and 3 that are supposed to include a decent DAC. The only adapter i have tried that was as good as the HTC 10 is the Razer adapter, in my opinion it actually sounds a little better.

jcallaway77 said:
I came from a HTC 10 and had a hard time finding something that sounds as good... The HTC oem 3.5 adapter is sold out everywhere so i haven't tried that one. I have tried 4 different adapters from Amazon, one generic and 3 that are supposed to include a decent DAC. The only adapter i have tried that was as good as the HTC 10 is the Razer adapter, in my opinion it actually sounds a little better.
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HTC Adapters in fact sounds different on U11 and U12+. It's weird, but it's better on the U12+.
Sent from my Huawei MediaPad M5 using XDA Labs

Pretty sure HTCs adapter is passtrough.
Maybe it just has an amp or something simple built in.

greenza said:
Can anyone tell me what the quality of the audio is like via the USB C dongle into in-ear headphones?
I'm coming from the HTC 10 and love the audio output on this device and what to know if HTC has managed to achieve similar levels of audio on the HTC u12+.
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Currently testing the official adapter dongle... using MDR-1A and spotify highest quality.
I am incredibly impressed with the quality offered by HTC... The dongle appears very good at maintaining quality, as long as your set of headphones are also good quality.
I'm quite disappointed in the quality of the included USB-C earbuds (after so much marketing of U-Sonic and ANC I was expecting something better. HTC 10's included buds were much better.)
The included earbuds truly don't reflect the quality this phone is capable of.
1 complaint, not about the dongle, the U12+ native frequency signature is a lot on the bassy side (at times, though rarely, overpowering) and the sound stage separation could be slightly wider for my tastes. (Though I've been thoroughly spoiled by using Dolby Atmos on the HTC 10).
As mentioned this complaint isn't about the dongle but the phone itself.
So if you have a good set of headphones jump deep, you won't be disappointed.
Though if you do decide to save and buy an OP6, my best advice is take those savings and buy a very decent BT headphone, because BT audio has less loss of quality than 3.5mm, as the DAC and AMP are on the headphones themselves instead of cheap ones on the OP6.
Jorgp2 said:
Pretty sure HTCs adapter is passtrough.
Maybe it just has an amp or something simple built in.
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Though I can't prove it without further research (which I will def do), I'm inclined to disagree.
The adapter requires an app to provide firmware updates... Generally speaking AMPs are too simple to need firmware updates.
Also, i'm looking at mine now... and the case is HUGE... I don't see why an AMP would need such a huge case
Now, my gf has an iPhone 7, and her adapter has a much smaller case, I'm inclined to say her adapter is a passthrough. Though not HTC. It looks like a DAC + AMP combo.
As I said, I can't prove it without a teardown, but logical analysis would guide me to the above conclusion.

OnePlus 7 Pro Headphone Audio Quality vs iPhone

Hello, does anyone know how the quality that comes from the phone outputted via USB-C to either speakers or headphones compares to that of an iPhone? Mine's on the way and am worried the audio quality is going to be what makes me end up returning the phone.

rmx36 said:
Hello, does anyone know how the quality that comes from the phone outputted via USB-C to either speakers or headphones compares to that of an iPhone? Mine's on the way and am worried the audio quality is going to be what makes me end up returning the phone.
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I'm only using AirPods (1). Have an 7 Pro and an XS Max. Would say that the OnePlus have slightly better bluetooth quality.
Have not tested USB-C vs lightning yet!

rmx36 said:
Hello, does anyone know how the quality that comes from the phone outputted via USB-C to either speakers or headphones compares to that of an iPhone? Mine's on the way and am worried the audio quality is going to be what makes me end up returning the phone.
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This doesn't really answer your question but Ive heard some people having issues with audio coming from USB-C with cheaper dongles on the OP7P. I'm not sure what sort of dongle you'll be using but I recommend looking into some reviews before you make your final judgement.