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Monster Beats. By Dr. Dre...

Anyone using the in-ear ones or the headphones with their Nexus? If so please leave me your feedback... I'm looking to buy a set today and don't care about the microphone.

Sounds real good
the bass is WOW, over all sound quality gets an A+
best head phones ive ever owned.
highly recommended

cangri87 said:
the bass is WOW, over all sound quality gets an A+
best head phones ive ever owned.
highly recommended
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are you using the in-ears or the over the head headphones? curious to know if the noise cancelling on them is noticable and is the volume louder than oem htc earphones?

bought the Monster Beats by Dre (Tour/in-ear with Control Talk) from the Apple store last week and I absolutely love them. They are replacing my old Apple in-ear headphones. Bass is sweet with no distortion. Mids and highs are spot on. Haven't yet tried them with the N1, been using them with my iPt. Not sure if the in-line remote controls/mic will work with the N1 but I will test them out sometime.

Huey85 said:
bought the Monster Beats by Dre (Tour/in-ear with Control Talk) from the Apple store last week and I absolutely love them. They are replacing my old Apple in-ear headphones. Bass is sweet with no distortion. Mids and highs are spot on. Haven't yet tried them with the N1, been using them with my iPt. Not sure if the in-line remote controls/mic will work with the N1 but I will test them out sometime.
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cool good to hear, let me know how they sound on the N1 and if the microphone actually works too! thanks man.

The beats are pretty good but way overpriced. Either way the output of the nexus one isn't great for audio and anything too good is a bit of a waste. Try going to head-fi to read up on iems before you buy.

Is the compatibility a hardware or software issue? Could some code be written or changed to make them work 100%?

I have the monster beats over the ears head phones. The big ones. They work perfectly fine. Also they come with the adapted to use with your nexus one which works fine. I like them a lot.

been using the in ear with control talk and they are the best headphones i have ever owned.
I have the bose quiet comfort 3 and the beats by dre top them out in quality.
Got mine for 80 bucks of craiglist brand new

used the Studio beats, they were awesome. just too big to carry around at times. so I got the klipsch s4i's. Awesome headset. ~100 but well worth it. check the cnet reviews, they're highly rated. lets me answer calls as well.

I know this thread is old... But check out Head-Fi.org when it comes to headphones.
I'd be very surprised if the Dre headphones are anything but overpriced. At first glance, it seems like my assumption is correct via my first couple threads when searching Dre Beats.
For those too lazy to look
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/headphone-buyers-guide-271258/

risterdid said:
Anyone using the in-ear ones or the headphones with their Nexus? If so please leave me your feedback... I'm looking to buy a set today and don't care about the microphone.
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The best headphones for smart phones are the: -
Etymotic HF2 High Fidelity Headphones

I've read the stuff on Head-fi but I still decided to buy a pair of Solo's. Why? Because I like them. I really like the looks and I think sound quality is pretty decent too. Furthermore I think they are one of the most comfortable headphones out there, which is pretty important to me too.
Of course, the fact that some people on Head-fi are not too enthousiastic about these headphones might say something. So maybe they are not the perfect headphones price/quality wise, but let's not exaggerate. For example, there are a lot of people out there that have a positive opinion about these headphones too.
What happens on forums is that in the end, if there are enough people saying bad things about something, other people will either just copycat their opinion without taking the time to develop their own opinion, or they will be influenced by these opinions while developing their own.
My 2 cents.
Now, does this Control Talk feature works on any HTC android phone??

I have had the beats over the ear for around a year now. I looked up a couple reviews and they were onsale so i took the leap.
in retrospec after doing more research and finding out about head-fi i would not buy them again.
they sound great and feel great. the "noise cancelation" is nothing to write home about. I also find it VERY annoying that the headphones cannot even work without the 2 AAA batteries in them. I use them alot for xbox with an astro mixamp and its very annoying to head over to a friends only to find out your headphones die 5 minutes into a match of your favorite game.
hooked up to my nexus they sound great, with a decent headphone amp they sound even better of course. no one buys a phone expecting to output the requires wattage.
prior to purchasing these cans i had not had much experiance over a few "high end" gaming headsets and your typical mid range dj headphones/ in ear buds and i was blown away by these. I was and still am very happy with my purchase, however i realize that for the money i could have got even better.

pongalong said:
The beats are pretty good but way overpriced. Either way the output of the nexus one isn't great for audio and anything too good is a bit of a waste. Try going to head-fi to read up on iems before you buy.
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My thoughts exactly. Avoid BOSE or Monster if you want value for money, they are all marketing (think Apple).

I'v been using UE triple.fi 10vi for a while now..
There's no going back once you hear these babies

Get a pair of Futuresonic Atrio's, you probably never heard of them but they are the industry leader in IEM's for Concert's/bands/live performers. Great low frequency response and warm accurate highs; review. For <$200 they can't be touched by any other IEM on the market.
EDIT: Wanted to add that anything with the name Monster on it is way overpriced.

Images s4
I have listened to a few of the Beats line headphones... and they sound quite good overall. But as for in-ears I went with the Klipsch Image S4's they are amazing earbuds, and I paid like 40 bucks for one!

Cheeze[iT] said:
used the Studio beats, they were awesome. just too big to carry around at times. so I got the klipsch s4i's. Awesome headset. ~100 but well worth it. check the cnet reviews, they're highly rated. lets me answer calls as well.
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Good to hear the headset part works on the N1! I use these with my iPhone, and the call answer button is very convenient. I was a little bit worried it'd go to waste when my N1 arrives.

Ive been using the Dr. Dre beats in-ear headphones. I read the reviews and to me they sound great.
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[Q] Headphone jack

As HTC provide the worse headphones ever, I thought I'd try my Samsung ones instead. They are also 4 pin, like the HTC ones, however they don't work properly, there is a weird echoy effect on vocals and bass seams almost non-existent.
Anyone know what's going on here? Is it the socket or the headphones?
I obviously need to buy some new headphones, will I have problems with non HTC headphones?

Philio25 said:
As HTC provide the worse headphones ever, I thought I'd try my Samsung ones instead. They are also 4 pin, like the HTC ones, however they don't work properly, there is a weird echoy effect on vocals and bass seams almost non-existent.
Anyone know what's going on here? Is it the socket or the headphones?
I obviously need to buy some new headphones, will I have problems with non HTC headphones?
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I have never used the HTC headphones - I just use a set of Sony earphones with a standard stereo jack and they work fine (although obviously no inline mic/controls)

I use apple headphones on my desire. They sound perfect and the middle button along with the microphone are working. Probably they have used a similar jack on the Sensation so if you can get some apple headphones, try it.

Sounds like it'll be ok then, thanks!

Philio25 said:
Sounds like it'll be ok then, thanks!
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Care to comment on how it sounds?

I highly recommend these, which I used as replacement headphones on my HTC Desire, and which work perfectly on my HTC Sensation.
They won the What Hi-Fi "Headphones under £50" award in 2010, and sound excellent. One word of warning, though, if you pay anything less than £30 (particularly around the £12 mark on eBay or from Amazon Marketplace sellers) then they are fakes.
http://www.play.com/Electronics/Ele...300-Mark-II-Precision-Headphones/Product.html

Turns out that the issue was the old Samsung SGS headphones, they only seem to work on the SGS properly.
I pinched my finance's SGS2 headphones and they work fine!

giorgisp said:
I use apple headphones on my desire. They sound perfect and the middle button along with the microphone are working. Probably they have used a similar jack on the Sensation so if you can get some apple headphones, try it.
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obviously not bothered about sound quality are you??
if you use any earphones provided by phones/mp3 players...then you can't complain about sound quality from the device.
Anything under £100 for earphones or £200 for headphones is bad sound quality.
Also, do you really think a phone provider would supply good quality expensive headphones? that'd just boost the price of the device...Seeing an ipod user using their white earhones makes me facepalm. They're the cheapest sounding earphones available. might as well just use the speaker whilst it's in your pocket.

Barff1984 said:
obviously not bothered about sound quality are you??
if you use any earphones provided by phones/mp3 players...then you can't complain about sound quality from the device.
Anything under £100 for earphones or £200 for headphones is bad sound quality.
Also, do you really think a phone provider would supply good quality expensive headphones? that'd just boost the price of the device...Seeing an ipod user using their white earhones makes me facepalm. They're the cheapest sounding earphones available. might as well just use the speaker whilst it's in your pocket.
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This is a whole different topic all together. There are also more factors than just the quality of the headphones which determine audio quality.

Looking for good headphone

Looking for good headphone for galaxy s4 i9500
a lot of people told me J33I was good
picture:
http://store.treoo.com/media/catalo...d7e005666a6c17562a80/j/b/jbl_j33i_white_1.jpg
what do you think is it good?
or do u have a better option?

darixtorento said:
Looking for good headphone for galaxy s4 i9500
a lot of people told me J33I was good
picture:
http://store.treoo.com/media/catalo...d7e005666a6c17562a80/j/b/jbl_j33i_white_1.jpg
what do you think is it good?
or do u have a better option?
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depends on your budget. Sub $100, you can also consider Klipsch S4 or Shure SE215.

lazard said:
depends on your budget. Sub $100, you can also consider Klipsch S4 or Shure SE215.
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yeah around the 100$ i think.. i can even more..
so Kipsch S4, Shure SE215 are better than 33JI?
and you really feel difference between all those earphone to Samsung original earphone?

more people?

darixtorento said:
yeah around the 100$ i think.. i can even more..
so Kipsch S4, Shure SE215 are better than 33JI?
and you really feel difference between all those earphone to Samsung original earphone?
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I've had a pair the Shure SE215 since they have came out (3 years ago I think). Great pair of headphones, I use them all the time.

darixtorento said:
more people?
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I can't really compare between what's better, because I haven't used any of those 3 but I have a pair of Bose IE2s (seems to be about the same price range as the Shures) and a blue tooth pair of Jaybird BlueBuds X with TX-500 Comply Foam Tips. Both sound amazing. The IE2 doesn't have any mic or media controls though, but they do sell ones that do (MIE2). I recently wanted better sound and those are what I got. Those coupled with the ViPer4Android Audio Mod and adding the Tips to the BlueBuds I'm content. Best 2 pair of headphones I've ever had, but then again... I've never spent more than 20 bucks on earphones. I can't image how much better the $200+ headphones would sound, but then again I can't even image the sound getting any better than this.
Also the J33i's say apple 3-button remote, so check if they do work on android if that's something you want.
Special Note: On the ViPer4Android Mod. It works so good that I'm thinking of buying cheaper headphones, but not until my IE2s die, Because I'm cheap like that. I'd have never bought those if I hadn't listened to the pair my friend had. They make cheap headphones sound pretty damned good and good headphones sound great. Never thought much of the iphones earpods, but with the mod they sound quite nice, also had a pair of earphones that I listened to once and toss them in a drawer because they sucked, with the mod again sounded pretty good too. So if you guys haven't tried it, check it out. ViPER4Android Audio Effects, sorry not trying to hijack your thread, but I think it's possibly the best thing ever on my phone.

Westone W4R

darixtorento said:
yeah around the 100$ i think.. i can even more..
so Kipsch S4, Shure SE215 are better than 33JI?
and you really feel difference between all those earphone to Samsung original earphone?
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I can vouch for the Klipsch S4. I've had my pair for about a year and they are still perfect. The soundstage is superb. The instruments do not sound like they are right on top of each other. The bass and treble are a bit exaggerated but most people probably prefer it that way.

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I can vouch for the Klipsch S4. I've had my pair for about a year and they are still perfect. The soundstage is superb. The instruments do not sound like they are right on top of each other. The bass and treble are a bit exaggerated but most people probably prefer it that way.
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Thanks for a useful response. I've been wanting nice headphones for awhile but don't know what to choose.
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Phateless said:
Thanks for a useful response. I've been wanting nice headphones for awhile but don't know what to choose.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using xda premium
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I follow a forum that specializes in high quality headphone equipment. The URL is here. They recommended me the Klipsches and many other pairs of headphones I own. If you really want options and professional opinions on headphones, I'd recommend you go there.

try shure se535 red with baldur mk2 cables. best choice ever

Which headphones are using with your 6P? How much did you pay for them?

Since the Nexus 6P comes without headphones, I was wondering which headphones everyone is using, and how much did it cost them? Would you recommend them to others? If you have tried more than once pair of headphones (wired or wireless) which one would you recommend?

I'm using the XBA-A3's at work and on the go: http://amzn.com/B00FJISZ28 They use a hybrid driver - pairing both a dynamic driver with two balanced armature drivers to create a fantastic sound.
I wear them about 6 hours per work day. They are by far the best sounding headphones I own. That's saying something, as I also own Sennheiser HD 650's, AudioTechnica ath-m50x, Shure SRH-840, Blue MoFi's, and Vmoda Crossfades which I use with my laptop and various portable/desktop headphone amps/dacs.
In searching for the best earbuds, I purchased and returned the RHA t20i, Shure 425s, Sennheiser Momentums, B&W C5s, and Audio-Technica ATH-CKR10... none of which were bad by any stretch of the imagination. The Audio Technica CKR10s are the closest to the XBA-A3, in my opinion. The XBA-A3's have an edge in mid and high end clarity in my comparisons. Balanced armatures for the win. I also prefer the over-ear wire guide and detachable cables. Also, most of those listed above don't have an in-line mic, which the Sony's do have. So, the A3's won, and I'm loving them daily.

M_Shaaban said:
Since the Nexus 6P comes without headphones, I was wondering which headphones everyone is using, and how much did it cost them? Would you recommend them to others? If you have tried more than once pair of headphones (wired or wireless) which one would you recommend?
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Sennheiser HD800's with a chord Hugo amplifier.
~$2200 and sounds wonderful. Would recommend it any day.

I've always used my Audio Technica ATH-ESW9 for whenever I'm away from my T1 at home. They're around $200 new and I got mine for $120 like new off of Amazon a couple years ago. One thing I've always like is the sound signature of the ESW9 deviates from the rest of the Audio Technica offerings, and it's an absolute joy for listening to acoustic instruments. Brownie points for using real wood too. Along with the durable lambskin leather, part of the reason why I prefer them for portable use, the ESW9 provide decent isolation without muting your surroundings when they're properly seated on your ears. Call me paranoid, but too much isolation is why I don't use earbuds; I see it as a hazard.

LG HBS-810, paid about $85, plus $15 for some comply foam tips. Can't complain.

Sony XB-90EX (About 120$ import) with Gain ramped to 5 and the new powerAMP, I think I'm sold until the hybrid tips wear off.

SpiritBreak3r said:
Sony XB-90EX (About 120$ import) with Gain ramped to 5 and the new powerAMP, I think I'm sold until the hybrid tips wear off.
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I've just ordered a pair of these, how are you finding them in general?

Stretlow said:
I've just ordered a pair of these, how are you finding them in general?
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I'm a basshead and this is my first "In-ear" monitors. I've also been and will be sony's XB fanboy and these pair just blew my mind.

JVC FX850s, though the phone's output & internal DAC makes them sound like crap (coming from Note 4). V4A doesn't make it much better. Placed an order for a cheap portable DAC, FiiO K1.

SpiritBreak3r said:
I'm a basshead and this is my first "In-ear" monitors. I've also been and will be sony's XB fanboy and these pair just blew my mind.
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Great to hear, fan of the bass myself... thanks for the post..
They're currently somewhere between Japan and Manchester

I'm using Sony MDR-EX650 Earphones with Brass Housing, Smartphone Mic and Control. By far the best in ear headphones I've ever bought, and I'm really hard to please when it comes to sound quality. The sounds take is incredibly open for in ear headphones. I can hardly feel them in my ears, the bass Is punchy without making the sound muddy. Fantastic, really glad I bought the 6p, and these headphones. Got them for £60 but can get them for around £40 online

Bose QC 20's ("Samsung Model" which is their Android version) All of the buttons work (vol+,-, play/pause) and it has ANC with an 'active button'. The active mode gives you mild noise canceling with enhanced speaking level tones for running/working out. I paid $300 for them this past summer and I don't regret it at all. I own 5 pairs of Bose headphones total (QC 20's, Freestyle, SiE 2's, OE 2's and the True Sound over ear ones)

Been using the latest xiaomi in ear pro these past two weeks, it is a hybrid : 1ba and 1 dynamic. Bass seem overpowered (i'm not a basshead), mid a bit high and buttons (mic n vol) works with my music player (black player ex), build quality is great for the price. I would recommend this Xiaomi (i got it for around $28 ) for 'on the go' earphones. For 'serious listening' i use my red Shure 535LE with black oyaide cable.

I'm rocking a V-Moda Crossfade LP2 - picked them up as open box off eBay for $99 and added the XL foam ear pads from V-Moda, also an eBay purchase. They sound ridiculously good, and the ear pads make these comfy af. The inline remote does NOT work though, but it worked on a Lumia - go figure, as Apple and MS have a patent deal. >.> Get with it Google! I miss pausing my music or summoning Cortana with the Play/Pause button on the cable.

M_Shaaban said:
Since the Nexus 6P comes without headphones, I was wondering which headphones everyone is using, and how much did it cost them? Would you recommend them to others? If you have tried more than once pair of headphones (wired or wireless) which one would you recommend?
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I've got a few hooked up for different purposes, Grado SR325i are my hands down favorite for sound but unless I'm sitting still in a quiet room they're not so wonderful.
Realistically though, my MPOW Cheetah Blueetooth get the most play time. $16 on sale. They don't sound anywhere as nice as my RE0's (which I bought so long ago I don't remember the price, definitely more than $16 though), but the whole wireless headphone thing is just so darn practical and the battery life is good enough that I would definitely recommend them.

I've been using Audio-Technica M50x's ($133) around the house and Klipsch S4's ($99) or Jbuds ($35) while out and about. Very happy with all of them.

I use some jbl wireless in ears, bose qc 20s, and sennheiser momentum in ears.

Beats PowerBeats2 Bluetooth for cardio. Paid $100 on Black Friday. I think at $100, its pretty good. Battery life is amazing. Sound is decent. But I wouldn't pay full price for them.
Shure SE215 for everything else. Paid $100 for them.
Bose QC15 for flights which I haven't traveled much lately so its not used ah much. Forgot how much I paid. Maybe $300ish.
I also have Bose IE2, Audio Technician M50 but those are rarely used.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

For wireless listening, I use a pair of Jaybird Bluebuds X. They work ver well and sound pretty good.
For wired listening, I have a pair of Klipsch S4is that I use when the BlueBuds are out of battery, and mostly for calls. My favorite pair are the Vmoda Crossfade LP2. The Vmoda give me the best sound out of all my headphones, but I don't like wearing them for extended periods of time. The Vmoda inline controller button does not work on the 6P by the way, and the same applies to many stock headphones for some reason.
I backed The Dash on Kickstarter two years ago and it looks like I should finally be getting mine in the next month or two. I'm very excited to get them to replace the BlueBuds, but Bluetooth sound quality will never match wired units.

M_Shaaban said:
Since the Nexus 6P comes without headphones, I was wondering which headphones everyone is using, and how much did it cost them? Would you recommend them to others? If you have tried more than once pair of headphones (wired or wireless) which one would you recommend?
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Unless you are an audiophile, I will recommend the Mpow Wolverine: http://amzn.com/B017I50T0K. They are cheap and the sound is excellent in my opinion. Additionally, they work perfectly with "Ok Google" commands, I mean detecting the "OK Google", which I have found to be inconsistent with other wireless or wired headphones. The microphone is on the volume control bar, so it is closer to your face and phone calls are really clear.
I also own the Mpow Swift: http://amzn.com/B00PW3B194, which I bought first. These are not as good, the sound is not the best in my opinion. I use them at work to listen to music and news podcast, so I don't need real good sound, as I keep the volume very low. The microphone in this one is on the right-ear headphone, so people have trouble hearing me if it is windy.
PS: No, I don't work for Mpow, I bought them because I found them on sale, so I paid $9.99 for each one.

Question What is the DAC present in the phone for the 3.5mm jack?

I'm currently looking to buy a decent pair of headphones that I want to mostly use with my phone. I've looked around online and couldn't find much about which DAC is being used and what is the ideal output power/impedance of the headphones that I should use with these.
I am thinking of getting the Audio Technica M20x but they have an impedance of 47 ohms, and I'm not sure if the device is ideal or capable enough to power it properly. I've read on another thread that a guy used a pair of headphones with 62 ohms impedance with this phone and he had to crank it up to almost 100% volume to hear music. So I'm not sure if the 47 ohms is too high for the phone. But the old wired apple earphones were 40 ohms and they probably worked fine so maybe the M20x would work somewhat nicely too I guess?
If anyone has used a good quality pair of headphones with this device here, help would be really appreciated.
Thanks

Anyone?

shivansh68 said:
I'm currently looking to buy a decent pair of headphones that I want to mostly use with my phone. I've looked around online and couldn't find much about which DAC is being used and what is the ideal output power/impedance of the headphones that I should use with these.
I am thinking of getting the Audio Technica M20x but they have an impedance of 47 ohms, and I'm not sure if the device is ideal or capable enough to power it properly. I've read on another thread that a guy used a pair of headphones with 62 ohms impedance with this phone and he had to crank it up to almost 100% volume to hear music. So I'm not sure if the 47 ohms is too high for the phone. But the old wired apple earphones were 40 ohms and they probably worked fine so maybe the M20x would work somewhat nicely too I guess?
If anyone has used a good quality pair of headphones with this device here, help would be really appreciated.
Thanks
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It has 24bit/192Khz Hi-Res as every other phone nowadays have. It doesn't have a separate DAC like an LG, is the one integrated on Snapdragon.
The best you can do to enjoy that headphones is to get a Tempotec Sonata HD2 dongle and never get over 95% volume to avoid distortion. There are dozens of good dongles but that one is cheap and you can use it for years.

ValgarBaldr said:
It has 24bit/192Khz Hi-Res as every other phone nowadays have. It doesn't have a separate DAC like an LG, is the one integrated on Snapdragon.
The best you can do to enjoy that headphones is to get a Tempotec Sonata HD2 dongle and never get over 95% volume to avoid distortion. There are dozens of good dongles but that one is cheap and you can use it for years.
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Thanks for the suggestion! I do plan on getting a seperate DAC in the future but currently I'm on a tight budget so I wanted to know how it will sound straight from the phone and what impedance headphones the phone's internal DAC can handle.

shivansh68 said:
Thanks for the suggestion! I do plan on getting a seperate DAC in the future but currently I'm on a tight budget so I wanted to know how it will sound straight from the phone and what impedance headphones the phone's internal DAC can handle.
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It can handle the Audio Technica pretty well. That headphones are pretty sensitive and the impedance is not high also. You will need to volume up a bit but the AT will muzzle exterior sound too, so it's a win-win

shivansh68 said:
Thanks for the suggestion! I do plan on getting a seperate DAC in the future but currently I'm on a tight budget so I wanted to know how it will sound straight from the phone and what impedance headphones the phone's internal DAC can handle.
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I just connected a AKG K240 to my device and sounds excepcional at middle volume. They are 55 ohms.

Thanks a ton for your help!! I've been looking around for weeks and haven't gotten any decent answers but you just helped me make my decision.
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You will need to volume up a bit but the AT will muzzle exterior sound too
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I'm sorry but could you explain what you meant by this?
Also if you don't mind what audiophile headphones would you suggest under the $100 range? I'm thinking about getting the M20x or M30X or would it be better to get maybe the Sennheiser HD 200 Pro for normal listening and not for studio mixing?
Thanks

i do find the sound to be a bit under volume as compared with a separate DAC... the sound produced out of the jack feels sub-parred compared to my realme 5i

shivansh68 said:
Thanks a ton for your help!! I've been looking around for weeks and haven't gotten any decent answers but you just helped me make my decision.
I'm sorry but could you explain what you meant by this?
Also if you don't mind what audiophile headphones would you suggest under the $100 range? I'm thinking about getting the M20x or M30X or would it be better to get maybe the Sennheiser HD 200 Pro for normal listening and not for studio mixing?
Thanks
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I mean you may find the volume a bit low compared to a standard earphones, but the binaural pads silence a lot of outer noise si it's ok.
M20x all the way, best quality for the price.

ValgarBaldr said:
I mean you may find the volume a bit low compared to a standard earphones, but the binaural pads silence a lot of outer noise si it's ok.
M20x all the way, best quality for the price.
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Thanks for the help!

im using blon bl 03. they are sounding awesome without DAC. 50% volume is enough.

Nice to have stumbled across this thread.
I haven't received my x3 pro yet. But will in one or two days. I had been looking around for a decent phone with a headphone jack and there were not a lot of options at all.
The reason being, I had an Earmen Eagle dac amp which is considered 'high end' in the world of dongle dacs. I A-B tested them vs the output from my current phone (realme 7) and to me, there really wasn't much of a difference in terms of quality. The output power is higher on the eagle ofcourse but nothing that notable in terms of quality difference, certainly not enough to make me want to deal with the inconvenience of a dongle.
I had done some prior digging and I believe the dac is the same as that on the ROG 2, which is understandable as the sd 860 is basically the same as 855+. I know this might not be useful info but I just wanted to share my findings anyway.

Jack is so trash, really it's 1/10. My Max 3 sounds 100x better. Without audio mods don't even come.