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I have been running titanium backup but I'd like to have some insight as to what the correct settings are when flashing a new nightly and gapps. Basically can someone tell me if the right way is in the batch settings and which one it is? Or should I just select apps one by one? What about data, should I back that up as well or leave that out.
I ask because I hate having to go through and reinstall all my apps and have been reluctant to restore from TB for fear of having some left overs in there that don't belong that will break the new rom or the gapps files.
Any help will definately be appreciated. If this has been answered before, and I'm sure it has but I searched and couldn't find it, then I appologize.
I'm not sure if it's the right or best way, but I just do a batch backup of all user apps + system data. That way if something is messed up in the new flash I can at least get back to what I had before. Plus, I figure I can always just restore only user apps and data if I need to do a full wipe.
Batch backup all user apps. Restore missing apps + data.
I do that every time and no issues.
This is my method for a full wipe
1. I batch backup apps and system data..
2. Then i restore only missing apps with data..
3. Then i go to restore system data menu DESELECT ALL then only check user dictionary to keep entries in it it the same so t diesnt have to learn each time
You can also try restoring widgets as well then reboot and ya widgets can come back on ya home screen but that is a bit hit and miss to be honest
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Thanks!
I had been only doing an apps backup, but this time I did an apps+data along side in a new folder. I figured that way I could try both ways and see which works best. I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't restoring the wrong sort of data and messing up the changes that Team EOS has been building into the nightlies.
I appreciate your responses and insight into the process.
Hi there! I've been reading (a lot) around here the last months and that's been really helpfull. Went from stock GB on my locked XPS through just about all ROM's available for XPS to CM10 now. Thanks XDA, thanks all!
Still a real lot to learn. One of the things that really keeps me wondering is which method (besides a Nandroid) I shld use for backing up. Google takes care of my contacts and settings automatically. But what is the best tool to backup and restore my apps (question 1)? I've used Astro, Go Backup and several others I can't even remember. And if I use one, do I still need Gapps all the time or is that doing a double job (question 2)?
My last question: I understand doing an upgrade of your custom rom you don't need to swipe, so your data stays. But if you do need to, when can you do a data restore after installing a new ROM (question 3)?
1. For backing up and restoring apps, I use Titanium Backup and I think most people would swear by it ( it's worth the donate for the extra features ). For sms though, GoSMS's backup feature is the best working one for me.
2. I'm pretty sure you still need to flash Gapps, but I'm not sure. Been off Cyan for a while. Besides, I think flashing Gapps is faster than restoring through most backup apps.
3. It depends on the rom and you should read the ROM's thread, but I always wipe between updates just in case ( I have an SGSII ). If you mean restore data by Titanium or another app, I think after letting the phone sit for 10 minutes on initial new ROM boot, you can start restoring apps. If you mean selectively restoring just data through nandroid though, I'm not sure if that should even be done, or how exactly to minimize issues.
Hope that helps.
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1. For backing up and restoring apps, I use Titanium Backup and I think most people would swear by it ( it's worth the donate for the extra features ). For sms though, GoSMS's backup feature is the best working one for me.
2. I'm pretty sure you still need to flash Gapps, but I'm not sure. Been off Cyan for a while. Besides, I think flashing Gapps is faster than restoring through most backup apps.
3. It depends on the rom and you should read the ROM's thread, but I always wipe between updates just in case ( I have an SGSII ). If you mean restore data by Titanium or another app, I think after letting the phone sit for 10 minutes on initial new ROM boot, you can start restoring apps. If you mean selectively restoring just data through nandroid though, I'm not sure if that should even be done, or how exactly to minimize issues.
Hope that helps.
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tx DIMENSIONAL!
Late night yesterday I ran into this app here on fxp: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859261 Maybe that might become (be) handy? Not for me yet, due to problems with XPS for this app at the moment
2. Gapps.... Gapps is faster for sure. But not off course not exactly the things you want.... But there's something out to make your own zip.file with all your apps and/or other data and system files in it I think. Stopped reading when it got to complicated for me to try without much feedback at that moment. Sorry I forgot to mark the thread. Lost it for now.
3. I did this data restore thing once after reading a tip in a thread for a particular ROM here somewhere.
VincentKnife said:
tx DIMENSIONAL!
Late night yesterday I ran into this app here on fxp: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859261 Maybe that might become (be) handy? Not for me yet, due to problems with XPS for this app at the moment
2. Gapps.... Gapps is faster for sure. But not off course not exactly the things you want.... But there's something out to make your own zip.file with all your apps and/or other data and system files in it I think. Stopped reading when it got to complicated for me to try without much feedback at that moment. Sorry I forgot to mark the thread. Lost it for now.
3. I did this data restore thing once after reading a tip in a thread for a particular ROM here somewhere.
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edit: installed titanium backup; needs a lot of reading agai,n but looks great! tx again!
Another vote for titanium & the pro key here. I prefer"appextractor“ from the play store for my sms/mms restore & I also use the contact restore feature, since it also takes care of my call log (both of these features use data from nandroid), since I have given up on using titanium to restore sms & get the time accurate.
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i was just reading the CM10.1 nightlies thread, and most posters there have been saying that using TiBu to backup and restore apps is a *bad* thing when doing a fresh install of the latest nightly ROM build.
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
i'd like to keep my call logs and SMS data. i also have some savegames from game apps i'd like to keep. TiBu seems to have some specific options as to backing up SMSes and call logs. is that safe to backup and then restore to a new ROM install?
what about user apps? i'm fine with just reinstalling most apps, but there are some apps that have saved data that i'd really like to keep!
there are apps specifically for backing up sms and call longs
the reason that people dont like Tibu as much is some of the cache it restores can conflict with newer builds and android is pretty good at restoring most of the things on its own
People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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i was just reading the CM10.1 nightlies thread, and most posters there have been saying that using TiBu to backup and restore apps is a *bad* thing when doing a fresh install of the latest nightly ROM build.
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
i'd like to keep my call logs and SMS data. i also have some savegames from game apps i'd like to keep. TiBu seems to have some specific options as to backing up SMSes and call logs. is that safe to backup and then restore to a new ROM install?
what about user apps? i'm fine with just reinstalling most apps, but there are some apps that have saved data that i'd really like to keep!
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Helium from the maker of CWM is free and super simple. They could've included an option to only backup an apps data but oh well it's still great. :good:
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People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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ty, that makes sense.
i'm on an older version of CWM (6.0.1.0, i believe). am i able to just flash a new version of CWM (sk8's or whatever) from my current CWM? i can't seem to find a straight answer on the forums or from googling...
Yea you can. Just flash the sk8 and then under advanced choose reboot recovery after install and you're going to be in the new recovery mod
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Thanks for asking!
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so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
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Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
Trinition said:
Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
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I never restore anything. I backup my call logs and texts to gmail, but I don't restore them. Why would you?
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Trinition said:
Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
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Maybe that you can backup to the cloud, with Helium and others. But except for that i think you've got it covered.
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People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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just as a quick update, i did exactly this (using sk8's CWM recovery) and it seems to have worked like a charm. did a clean wipe (factory reset/format cache, data, system, dalvik's) and then installed Cyanogenmod 10.1 N15. then before rebooting i restored just the data. worked pretty well!
fightinfilipino said:
just as a quick update, i did exactly this (using sk8's CWM recovery) and it seems to have worked like a charm. did a clean wipe (factory reset/format cache, data, system, dalvik's) and then installed Cyanogenmod 10.1 N15. then before rebooting i restored just the data. worked pretty well!
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Good for you. But that is almost the same as a dirty flash.
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rushi.1986 said:
Good for you. But that is almost the same as a dirty flash.
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oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
fightinfilipino said:
oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
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You shouldn't restore anything.
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fightinfilipino said:
oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
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There is no best way because there's always a risk it will cause issues. Either accept the level of risk involved or do what's recommended, you can't have your cake and eat it too in this case.
Personally I use android tuner pro as a backup solution. I know the risks involved and I don't post and complain when it doesn't work I find the problem and fix it or I do what I'm supposed to do.
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There is no best way because there's always a risk it will cause issues. Either accept the level of risk involved or do what's recommended, you can't have your cake and eat it too in this case.
Personally I use android tuner pro as a backup solution. I know the risks involved and I don't post and complain when it doesn't work I find the problem and fix it or I do what I'm supposed to do.
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the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
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the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
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His answer was far from snarky and was actually correct the method stated is just a dirty flash with more steps and is more risky.
It's recommended not to restore anything but if you must be ready to accepted the consequence if there are any. Typically with android tuner I don't have issues.
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fightinfilipino said:
the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
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I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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99% of the time you won't but with all of the changes recently all precautions needed to be taken. Like I said I normally don't have too many issues, every once in a while though.
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Restoring user apps will not mess up your ROM. Unless it is root related y would it? If the app doesn't work after install then install it from the market.
Restoring system apps can effect your ROM. Most system apps are different based on the ROM that you use. Example being restoring them from cm 10 to cm 10.1, or even different nightlies.
Titanium backup is the way to go. Chronium aka helium is supposed to be good, its a preference thing IMO.
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I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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This is a good way to go.. If it works for you, then you have your solution. Thing is, everyone's phone has had different experiences with different apps, ROMs, settings, etc. and what works for one may not work for another.
Personally, I prefer the backup feature in ROM Toolbox pro. Easy to use, bulk features, and I had fewer issues than on TiBu. BUT, with all the recent app updates trying to keep up with Rom changes, I've found it to be far more stable to just reinstall from the Play store. It seems to also be prudent to get rid of any app that may be redundant to native ROM features (in my case). Just keep it simple.
Contacts and calendar data syncs with Google.
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I just finished restoring my Samsung Galaxy SIII after jumping into the latest Verizon OTA without checking it out first. (Mistake!)
I like what I have now, but would like to see if a custom ROM might be a little less loaded with Samsung and Verizon bloat. I am not interested in tons of more tweaking options, just good wireless reception, and UI quickness. I do NOT want to repeat reinstalling all my apps from scratch, and setting them up again. I am rooted, unlocked, have TWRP, Odin, Titanium Backup Pro,Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper. Can someone help make the transition into a new ROM as pain free, and easy as possible. Once again, I'm not asking about how to flash the ROM as much as I am asking about getting up and running after flashing. Thanks for your time and help.
dweezle said:
I just finished restoring my Samsung Galaxy SIII after jumping into the latest Verizon OTA without checking it out first. (Mistake!)
I like what I have now, but would like to see if a custom ROM might be a little less loaded with Samsung and Verizon bloat. I am not interested in tons of more tweaking options, just good wireless reception, and UI quickness. I do NOT want to repeat reinstalling all my apps from scratch, and setting them up again. I am rooted, unlocked, have TWRP, Odin, Titanium Backup Pro,Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper. Can someone help make the transition into a new ROM as pain free, and easy as possible. Once again, I'm not asking about how to flash the ROM as much as I am asking about getting up and running after flashing. Thanks for your time and help.
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Do you have Titanium Backup?
yes
You make backup your apps in TB and after flash restore apps + data
Remember archive your contact list
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tgrobi said:
Do you have Titanium Backup?
yes
You make backup your apps in TB and after flash restore apps + data
Remember archive your contact list
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sorry for my english
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Dear tgrobi one has to restore only data not the app as the app might clash with the contact app of one's new rom so what is advisable is to only restore data also titanium will give a warning message that restoring the app will not work properly and eventually result in a FC
It happened with me.....:crying:
U must do a backup first using titanium backup.
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You have to download app saver in the market. And backup your app. App saver make your app become .apk. Then just backup your .apk to your sd cars.
Hopefully it helpa you
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Do you have Titanium Backup?
yes
You make backup your apps in TB and after flash restore apps + data
Remember archive your contact list
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^^^This.
I have titanium backups and mess around flashing numerous roms.
Apps and their settings can easily be restored by making backups with titanium and restoring apps and data.
You can also save your contact list with it but if you have a google account and sync enabled your phone will restore contacts from your google account.
Is the Titanium Backup still a good advice now, after 8 years since this thread was started? I'm going to migrate my Moto G "falcon" from 4.4 to 7.1. I do have a paid version of Titanium Backup. Thank you!
I have searched so many times and I have no clue how to do this. I have tried just using nandroid manager to restore but it ends up just restoring the app, not the app data..
Is the only true solution to this would be restoring the kitkat nandroid and using titanium backup all my apps?
Thanks for the halps.
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I have searched so many times and I have no clue how to do this. I have tried just using nandroid manager to restore but it ends up just restoring the app, not the app data..
Is the only true solution to this would be restoring the kitkat nandroid and using titanium backup all my apps?
Thanks for the halps.
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You need Helium from the playstore. Save out your apps and data before you do your clean install.
DJW6927 said:
You need Helium from the playstore. Save out your apps and data before you do your clean install.
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I'm already on lollipop, I am trying to restore from a nandroid backup made in TWRP.
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I'm already on lollipop, I am trying to restore from a nandroid backup made in TWRP.
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You can't do that. The right way to to do it is to backup your apps with Titanium or Backup+ before changing ROMs and then you can restore after flashing.
I wouldn't ever recommend restoring App data from an earlier android version such as 4.4 to 5.0.
Sure some might turn out OK, but why not take the extra time and upgrade with some care and patience. There is no "official" Lollypop firmware for our device yet so given the bugs already present plus the ones you are most definitely going to add if you restore old data, how do you think your experience is going to be?
Also, this is a development forum, how will you troubleshoot issues with new builds or features when you haven't started fresh.
Now there's always exceptions to the rule, I have no idea what type of apps or why it must be so important to not do this clean.... So I won't say its lazy LoL, but something to consider.
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I wouldn't ever recommend restoring App data from an earlier android version such as 4.4 to 5.0.
Sure some might turn out OK, but why not take the extra time and upgrade with some care and patience. There is no "official" Lollypop firmware for our device yet so given the bugs already present plus the ones you are most definitely going to add if you restore old data, how do you think your experience is going to be?
Also, this is a development forum, how will you troubleshoot issues with new builds or features when you haven't started fresh.
Now there's always exceptions to the rule, I have no idea what type of apps or why it must be so important to not do this clean.... So I won't say its lazy LoL, but something to consider.
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There's nothing wrong with restoring user app data across Android versions. I've done it countless (yes, countless) times Ann's I've never had an issue. It's system settings and data that can't be restored when changing Android versions or even ROMs.
"Old" user app data has never, ever, caused a single bug for me and I've done it thousands of times.
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OK, although it may not affect the android system, apps force closing and then being reported in development threads as a bug does have a measurable affect.
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OK, although it may not affect the android system, apps force closing and then being reported in development threads as a bug does have a measurable affect.
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Like I said, in the thousands of times I've restored apps+data I've had zero problems. No force closes. None. Nada. Zilch. Zip. Honestly, 90% of "problems" and "bugs" that are reported on XDA are caused to user error because that user has no idea what they're doing.
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I wouldn't ever recommend restoring App data from an earlier android version such as 4.4 to 5.0.
Sure some might turn out OK, but why not take the extra time and upgrade with some care and patience. There is no "official" Lollypop firmware for our device yet so given the bugs already present plus the ones you are most definitely going to add if you restore old data, how do you think your experience is going to be?
Also, this is a development forum, how will you troubleshoot issues with new builds or features when you haven't started fresh.
Now there's always exceptions to the rule, I have no idea what type of apps or why it must be so important to not do this clean.... So I won't say its lazy LoL, but something to consider.
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Because I play games. I prefer not to sink so many more hours like I already have.
ROM Toolbox also allows you to restore apps+data from nandroid backups so you could give it a shot.
get app backups from a TWRP nandroid
I have Titanium backup pro. In it's menu is the option to 'extract from nandroid backup'
the best solution i tested and working just fine