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Which backup tool to choose?

Hi there! I've been reading (a lot) around here the last months and that's been really helpfull. Went from stock GB on my locked XPS through just about all ROM's available for XPS to CM10 now. Thanks XDA, thanks all!
Still a real lot to learn. One of the things that really keeps me wondering is which method (besides a Nandroid) I shld use for backing up. Google takes care of my contacts and settings automatically. But what is the best tool to backup and restore my apps (question 1)? I've used Astro, Go Backup and several others I can't even remember. And if I use one, do I still need Gapps all the time or is that doing a double job (question 2)?
My last question: I understand doing an upgrade of your custom rom you don't need to swipe, so your data stays. But if you do need to, when can you do a data restore after installing a new ROM (question 3)?

1. For backing up and restoring apps, I use Titanium Backup and I think most people would swear by it ( it's worth the donate for the extra features ). For sms though, GoSMS's backup feature is the best working one for me.
2. I'm pretty sure you still need to flash Gapps, but I'm not sure. Been off Cyan for a while. Besides, I think flashing Gapps is faster than restoring through most backup apps.
3. It depends on the rom and you should read the ROM's thread, but I always wipe between updates just in case ( I have an SGSII ). If you mean restore data by Titanium or another app, I think after letting the phone sit for 10 minutes on initial new ROM boot, you can start restoring apps. If you mean selectively restoring just data through nandroid though, I'm not sure if that should even be done, or how exactly to minimize issues.
Hope that helps.

DIMENSIONAL said:
1. For backing up and restoring apps, I use Titanium Backup and I think most people would swear by it ( it's worth the donate for the extra features ). For sms though, GoSMS's backup feature is the best working one for me.
2. I'm pretty sure you still need to flash Gapps, but I'm not sure. Been off Cyan for a while. Besides, I think flashing Gapps is faster than restoring through most backup apps.
3. It depends on the rom and you should read the ROM's thread, but I always wipe between updates just in case ( I have an SGSII ). If you mean restore data by Titanium or another app, I think after letting the phone sit for 10 minutes on initial new ROM boot, you can start restoring apps. If you mean selectively restoring just data through nandroid though, I'm not sure if that should even be done, or how exactly to minimize issues.
Hope that helps.
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tx DIMENSIONAL!
Late night yesterday I ran into this app here on fxp: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859261 Maybe that might become (be) handy? Not for me yet, due to problems with XPS for this app at the moment
2. Gapps.... Gapps is faster for sure. But not off course not exactly the things you want.... But there's something out to make your own zip.file with all your apps and/or other data and system files in it I think. Stopped reading when it got to complicated for me to try without much feedback at that moment. Sorry I forgot to mark the thread. Lost it for now.
3. I did this data restore thing once after reading a tip in a thread for a particular ROM here somewhere.

VincentKnife said:
tx DIMENSIONAL!
Late night yesterday I ran into this app here on fxp: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859261 Maybe that might become (be) handy? Not for me yet, due to problems with XPS for this app at the moment
2. Gapps.... Gapps is faster for sure. But not off course not exactly the things you want.... But there's something out to make your own zip.file with all your apps and/or other data and system files in it I think. Stopped reading when it got to complicated for me to try without much feedback at that moment. Sorry I forgot to mark the thread. Lost it for now.
3. I did this data restore thing once after reading a tip in a thread for a particular ROM here somewhere.
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edit: installed titanium backup; needs a lot of reading agai,n but looks great! tx again!

Another vote for titanium & the pro key here. I prefer"appextractor“ from the play store for my sms/mms restore & I also use the contact restore feature, since it also takes care of my call log (both of these features use data from nandroid), since I have given up on using titanium to restore sms & get the time accurate.
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[Q] Backup and Restore Apps when switching ROMs

So, I've been having issues with my TF101 running CM10. I want to try switching ROMs to see if it helps. Issue is I have a lot of apps installed. In the past, I've used Titanium Backup, but the challenge is that I still have to sit there and approve each app for install manually. Is there a better way to handle this that I'm not thinking of, or should I just shell out for the premium version of TB?

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TheQuicksilver said:
So, I've been having issues with my TF101 running CM10. I want to try switching ROMs to see if it helps. Issue is I have a lot of apps installed. In the past, I've used Titanium Backup, but the challenge is that I still have to sit there and approve each app for install manually. Is there a better way to handle this that I'm not thinking of, or should I just shell out for the premium version of TB?
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Not exactly on point, but I use TWRP (from goo manager) and use the backup restore there when jumping from one rom to another making Titanium useful when switching ROMs from say CM10 to EOS4. I have a backup saved of stock rooted ICS too. When I do a restore my entire system reverts. This is only helpful switching DEVs. In any event I'd instal TWRP through goo manager. EOS4 is real nice. But you MUST read the instructions.
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wn1ytw said:
Not exactly on point, but I use TWRP (from goo manager) and use the backup restore there when jumping from one rom to another making Titanium useful when switching ROMs from say CM10 to EOS4. I have a backup saved of stock rooted ICS too. When I do a restore my entire system reverts. This is only helpful switching DEVs. In any event I'd instal TWRP through goo manager. EOS4 is real nice. But you MUST read the instructions.
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scott
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Yeah, I have TWRP and use it to take whole snapshots. I know when I take backups there, it has options like system, data, boot, etc, but I've never been sure if you can take just a data backup and restore that between ROM's and have that do what I'm wanting.

TheQuicksilver said:
Yeah, I have TWRP and use it to take whole snapshots. I know when I take backups there, it has options like system, data, boot, etc, but I've never been sure if you can take just a data backup and restore that between ROM's and have that do what I'm wanting.
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I've never been able to do exactly what you want, hense my "not on point", but a combo of the two is very helpful. (to me at least):cyclops:

Was wondering about this myself.

I have used Titanium Backup pro and find it very useful for restoring a full set of apps with data, as well as any missing data.
I haven't tried it but Carbon backup I think works on Android 4 without root required.

TheQuicksilver said:
So, I've been having issues with my TF101 running CM10. I want to try switching ROMs to see if it helps. Issue is I have a lot of apps installed. In the past, I've used Titanium Backup, but the challenge is that I still have to sit there and approve each app for install manually. Is there a better way to handle this that I'm not thinking of, or should I just shell out for the premium version of TB?
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The Pro version eliminates all this questioning.

[Q] What should i use for backup and restore instead of TiBu?

i was just reading the CM10.1 nightlies thread, and most posters there have been saying that using TiBu to backup and restore apps is a *bad* thing when doing a fresh install of the latest nightly ROM build.
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
i'd like to keep my call logs and SMS data. i also have some savegames from game apps i'd like to keep. TiBu seems to have some specific options as to backing up SMSes and call logs. is that safe to backup and then restore to a new ROM install?
what about user apps? i'm fine with just reinstalling most apps, but there are some apps that have saved data that i'd really like to keep!

there are apps specifically for backing up sms and call longs
the reason that people dont like Tibu as much is some of the cache it restores can conflict with newer builds and android is pretty good at restoring most of the things on its own

People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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fightinfilipino said:
i was just reading the CM10.1 nightlies thread, and most posters there have been saying that using TiBu to backup and restore apps is a *bad* thing when doing a fresh install of the latest nightly ROM build.
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
i'd like to keep my call logs and SMS data. i also have some savegames from game apps i'd like to keep. TiBu seems to have some specific options as to backing up SMSes and call logs. is that safe to backup and then restore to a new ROM install?
what about user apps? i'm fine with just reinstalling most apps, but there are some apps that have saved data that i'd really like to keep!
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Helium from the maker of CWM is free and super simple. They could've included an option to only backup an apps data but oh well it's still great. :good:

Commodore 64 said:
People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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ty, that makes sense.
i'm on an older version of CWM (6.0.1.0, i believe). am i able to just flash a new version of CWM (sk8's or whatever) from my current CWM? i can't seem to find a straight answer on the forums or from googling...

Yea you can. Just flash the sk8 and then under advanced choose reboot recovery after install and you're going to be in the new recovery mod
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Thanks for asking!
fightinfilipino said:
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
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Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?

Trinition said:
Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
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I never restore anything. I backup my call logs and texts to gmail, but I don't restore them. Why would you?
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Trinition said:
Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
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Maybe that you can backup to the cloud, with Helium and others. But except for that i think you've got it covered.

Commodore 64 said:
People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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just as a quick update, i did exactly this (using sk8's CWM recovery) and it seems to have worked like a charm. did a clean wipe (factory reset/format cache, data, system, dalvik's) and then installed Cyanogenmod 10.1 N15. then before rebooting i restored just the data. worked pretty well!

fightinfilipino said:
just as a quick update, i did exactly this (using sk8's CWM recovery) and it seems to have worked like a charm. did a clean wipe (factory reset/format cache, data, system, dalvik's) and then installed Cyanogenmod 10.1 N15. then before rebooting i restored just the data. worked pretty well!
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Good for you. But that is almost the same as a dirty flash.
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rushi.1986 said:
Good for you. But that is almost the same as a dirty flash.
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oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[

fightinfilipino said:
oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
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You shouldn't restore anything.
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fightinfilipino said:
oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
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There is no best way because there's always a risk it will cause issues. Either accept the level of risk involved or do what's recommended, you can't have your cake and eat it too in this case.
Personally I use android tuner pro as a backup solution. I know the risks involved and I don't post and complain when it doesn't work I find the problem and fix it or I do what I'm supposed to do.
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mtdew said:
There is no best way because there's always a risk it will cause issues. Either accept the level of risk involved or do what's recommended, you can't have your cake and eat it too in this case.
Personally I use android tuner pro as a backup solution. I know the risks involved and I don't post and complain when it doesn't work I find the problem and fix it or I do what I'm supposed to do.
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the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?

fightinfilipino said:
the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
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His answer was far from snarky and was actually correct the method stated is just a dirty flash with more steps and is more risky.
It's recommended not to restore anything but if you must be ready to accepted the consequence if there are any. Typically with android tuner I don't have issues.
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fightinfilipino said:
the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
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I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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rushi.1986 said:
I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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99% of the time you won't but with all of the changes recently all precautions needed to be taken. Like I said I normally don't have too many issues, every once in a while though.
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Restoring user apps will not mess up your ROM. Unless it is root related y would it? If the app doesn't work after install then install it from the market.
Restoring system apps can effect your ROM. Most system apps are different based on the ROM that you use. Example being restoring them from cm 10 to cm 10.1, or even different nightlies.
Titanium backup is the way to go. Chronium aka helium is supposed to be good, its a preference thing IMO.
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rushi.1986 said:
I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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This is a good way to go.. If it works for you, then you have your solution. Thing is, everyone's phone has had different experiences with different apps, ROMs, settings, etc. and what works for one may not work for another.
Personally, I prefer the backup feature in ROM Toolbox pro. Easy to use, bulk features, and I had fewer issues than on TiBu. BUT, with all the recent app updates trying to keep up with Rom changes, I've found it to be far more stable to just reinstall from the Play store. It seems to also be prudent to get rid of any app that may be redundant to native ROM features (in my case). Just keep it simple.
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[Resolved] [Q] Problems restoring apps with titanium backup

This is now solved, to anyone else with the same problem the following were most likely to have fixed it:
jl0932 said:
I recall there is one thread talking about the similar issue but I didn’t bookmark it.
But you can refer to this first. Check second paragraph from the bottom.
Both threads mentioned about conflict between Store restore and Titanium Backup restore.
The other thread suggests uncheck “Auto Restore” in Setting->”Backup and Restore”. I tried this once before, work for me.
Hope this helpful for you.
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Umar08 said:
Where are the apps backed up to? And im guessing its because the directory for the apps is different than the other rom you had. I had a problem where i couldn't uninstall system apps with Titanium backup, i eventually found out the directory for apps is different on 4.0 ice cream sandwich than on 4.4.2 kitkat.
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FarmGeek4Life said:
You're more likely to have problems restoring entire apps with Titanium Backup than just restoring data; if you are having problems, try reinstalling the app from whichever source it came from, then restore data.
I've never had problems restoring data between roms, but I've read many warnings against restoring apps when changing roms.
Also, when changing between very similar roms, you often don't need to wipe data, unless you are "downgrading" to a version compiled from older source.
You can always do a /system partition format and flash a new rom, then see if it will boot without issues. I've also be able to selectively wipe data for problematic apps to fix them.
I really don't like the nuclear option of factory resets, just because it can take hours to bring a phone back to a state similar to the state it was in, and it can affect saved states for some apps that attached to the device ID.
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Original problem
I have been having problems restoring apps with titanium backup and so far no one has been able to find the solution, I couldn't find a solution on google and titanium backup support isn't responding to my support request. Anyways, I'm trying to restore apps from pandasa123's unofficial cyanogenmod to matrixzone's unofficial cyanogenmod. When I restore on the free version it opens install window and then when it says installing it changes to app not installed. Suspected problem apps are Bloons TD 5, Drunken Wrestlers and Star Wars: Commander. When I had the free version, it seems after trying to restore drunkin wrestlers and it says app not installed then all the apps after say app not installed except a few like google authenticator. I tried again with the paid version and it still got stuck restoring things like drunkin wrestlers, bloons td 5, star wars commander. I have already tried the troubleshooting steps in tibu and have tried multiple times to restore. I have also tried older versions no luck. I could successfully restore those apps when I went from 4.4.4 to 5.0.
Also would there be any work around to manually restore the apps? Any other backup apps that are good?
Device: Samsung Galaxy S3 SGH-I747M
Rooted: Yes

Anyone?

Please, anyone? I don't want to be stuck with this rom.

I recall there is one thread talking about the similar issue but I didn’t bookmark it.
But you can refer to this first. Check second paragraph from the bottom.
angusc said:
And one final tip that i use.........when setting up a ROM from scratch, do not sign in to the Google account until AFTER you have RESTORED all the user Apps with Titanium as the Market will try to restore all your apps from your Market user history, which is OK but will conflict with your BATCH RESTORE using TItanium Backup.
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Both threads mentioned about conflict between Store restore and Titanium Backup restore.
The other thread suggests uncheck “Auto Restore” in Setting->”Backup and Restore”. I tried this once before, work for me.
Hope this helpful for you.
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TimeAndroid said:
I have been having problems restoring apps with titanium backup and so far no one has been able to find the solution, I couldn't find a solution on google and titanium backup support isn't responding to my support request. Anyways, I'm trying to restore apps from pandasa123's unofficial cyanogenmod to matrixzone's unofficial cyanogenmod. When I restore on the free version it opens install window and then when it says installing it changes to app not installed. Suspected problem apps are Bloons TD 5, Drunken Wrestlers and Star Wars: Commander. When I had the free version, it seems after trying to restore drunkin wrestlers and it says app not installed then all the apps after say app not installed except a few like google authenticator. I tried again with the paid version and it still got stuck restoring things like drunkin wrestlers, bloons td 5, star wars commander. I have already tried the troubleshooting steps in tibu and have tried multiple times to restore. I have also tried older versions no luck. I could successfully restore those apps when I went from 4.4.4 to 5.0.
Also would there be any work around to manually restore the apps? Any other backup apps that are good?
Device: Samsung Galaxy S3 SGH-I747M
Rooted: Yes
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art or delvic?
may be because of this can not be restored?

Where are the apps backed up to? And im guessing its because the directory for the apps is different than the other rom you had. I had a problem where i couldn't uninstall system apps with Titanium backup, i eventually found out the directory for apps is different on 4.0 ice cream sandwich than on 4.4.2 kitkat.
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Umar08 said:
Where are the apps backed up to? And im guessing its because the directory for the apps is different than the other rom you had. I had a problem where i couldn't uninstall system apps with Titanium backup, i eventually found out the directory for apps is different on 4.0 ice cream sandwich than on 4.4.2 kitkat.
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They are backed up to my external SD card.
Cheshkin said:
art or delvic?
may be because of this can not be restored?
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ART. At least it should be ART since I'm going from a lollipop rom to another lollipop.
jl0932 said:
I recall there is one thread talking about the similar issue but I didn’t bookmark it.
But you can refer to this first. Check second paragraph from the bottom.
Both threads mentioned about conflict between Store restore and Titanium Backup restore.
The other thread suggests uncheck “Auto Restore” in Setting->”Backup and Restore”. I tried this once before, work for me.
Hope this helpful for you.
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Thanks, I don't restore any of my apps from the play store (unchecked "All Apps" in the restore screens on initial setup of the rom) but do have some games connected to Google Play Games. Would this solution still possibly work?

It still doesn't restore properly and it seems to also get stuck on a new game I downloaded called LogoMania too. I didn't add a Google account at setup until I had to go to the play store to download tibu and tibu pro but made sure auto restore was off in settings. I also unchecked the malware detection in google settings and saved the apps to my internal instead of external sd but still no luck.

You're more likely to have problems restoring entire apps with Titanium Backup than just restoring data; if you are having problems, try reinstalling the app from whichever source it came from, then restore data.
I've never had problems restoring data between roms, but I've read many warnings against restoring apps when changing roms.
Also, when changing between very similar roms, you often don't need to wipe data, unless you are "downgrading" to a version compiled from older source.
You can always do a /system partition format and flash a new rom, then see if it will boot without issues. I've also be able to selectively wipe data for problematic apps to fix them.
I really don't like the nuclear option of factory resets, just because it can take hours to bring a phone back to a state similar to the state it was in, and it can affect saved states for some apps that attached to the device ID.

FarmGeek4Life said:
You're more likely to have problems restoring entire apps with Titanium Backup than just restoring data; if you are having problems, try reinstalling the app from whichever source it came from, then restore data.
I've never had problems restoring data between roms, but I've read many warnings against restoring apps when changing roms.
Also, when changing between very similar roms, you often don't need to wipe data, unless you are "downgrading" to a version compiled from older source.
You can always do a /system partition format and flash a new rom, then see if it will boot without issues. I've also be able to selectively wipe data for problematic apps to fix them.
I really don't like the nuclear option of factory resets, just because it can take hours to bring a phone back to a state similar to the state it was in, and it can affect saved states for some apps that attached to the device ID.
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So in order to only restore data, I would:
1. Install the app from Google Play
2. In tibu, do a batch restore and select "data only" instead of "apps+data"
Is that correct?

TimeAndroid said:
So in order to only restore data, I would:
1. Install the app from Google Play
2. In tibu, do a batch restore and select "data only" instead of "apps+data"
Is that correct?
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Yes.

One important step before you restore is the verify the backups. Go into TB->batch->Verify Backups. See if everything is okay with no errors.
Also, remember some apps may not be compatible with your upgraded Android version.

crazydip said:
One important step before you restore is the verify the backups. Go into TB->batch->Verify Backups. See if everything is okay with no errors.
Also, remember some apps may not be compatible with your upgraded Android version.
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I verify every time. Also, I'm on android 5.0.2 already trying to get to another 5.0.2 rom I believe.

One more thing I forgot to mention: if you want to recover an app, try to recover it without data. Recovering data for apps between CM versions, or even app versions, can cause headaches sometimes (especially Google apps).
Also, TB has a website with help. Maybe there is an answer in the docs to help you.

Thanks guys, it worked!

CLOSED - DUPLICATED How do you backup apps when moving to a new ROM/Phone?

I was wondering how you guys usually backup your phone when going from let's say stock to LineageOS? I was wondering this because I feel my way takes more time than it needs to and if there's a better method I'm glad to hear it.
I'll go first:
I backup first through Titanium backup which is a great app for restoring most data such as wifi passwords and app data for some apps. Secondly I'll make a backup using Helium because it backs up some apps that aren't compatible with TB's way of handling things such as Defenders III. Thirdly and most Important backup I make is through twrp in case I need to go back and get something I forgot or if the new ROM bootloops.

j0nas_ said:
I was wondering how you guys usually backup your phone when going from let's say stock to LineageOS? I was wondering this because I feel my way takes more time than it needs to and if there's a better method I'm glad to hear it.
I'll go first:
I backup first through Titanium backup which is a great app for restoring most data such as wifi passwords and app data for some apps. Secondly I'll make a backup using Helium because it backs up some apps that aren't compatible with TB's way of handling things such as Defenders III. Thirdly and most Important backup I make is through twrp in case I need to go back and get something I forgot or if the new ROM bootloops.
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Don't post your question more then once, please follow forum rules. You already received an answer here https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/question-how-backup-apps-moving-to-rom-t3655647
And there are already a lot of same discussions out there. Please use search function before every post.