i was just reading the CM10.1 nightlies thread, and most posters there have been saying that using TiBu to backup and restore apps is a *bad* thing when doing a fresh install of the latest nightly ROM build.
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
i'd like to keep my call logs and SMS data. i also have some savegames from game apps i'd like to keep. TiBu seems to have some specific options as to backing up SMSes and call logs. is that safe to backup and then restore to a new ROM install?
what about user apps? i'm fine with just reinstalling most apps, but there are some apps that have saved data that i'd really like to keep!
there are apps specifically for backing up sms and call longs
the reason that people dont like Tibu as much is some of the cache it restores can conflict with newer builds and android is pretty good at restoring most of the things on its own
People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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fightinfilipino said:
i was just reading the CM10.1 nightlies thread, and most posters there have been saying that using TiBu to backup and restore apps is a *bad* thing when doing a fresh install of the latest nightly ROM build.
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
i'd like to keep my call logs and SMS data. i also have some savegames from game apps i'd like to keep. TiBu seems to have some specific options as to backing up SMSes and call logs. is that safe to backup and then restore to a new ROM install?
what about user apps? i'm fine with just reinstalling most apps, but there are some apps that have saved data that i'd really like to keep!
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Helium from the maker of CWM is free and super simple. They could've included an option to only backup an apps data but oh well it's still great. :good:
Commodore 64 said:
People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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ty, that makes sense.
i'm on an older version of CWM (6.0.1.0, i believe). am i able to just flash a new version of CWM (sk8's or whatever) from my current CWM? i can't seem to find a straight answer on the forums or from googling...
Yea you can. Just flash the sk8 and then under advanced choose reboot recovery after install and you're going to be in the new recovery mod
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Thanks for asking!
fightinfilipino said:
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
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Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
Trinition said:
Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
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I never restore anything. I backup my call logs and texts to gmail, but I don't restore them. Why would you?
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Trinition said:
Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
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Maybe that you can backup to the cloud, with Helium and others. But except for that i think you've got it covered.
Commodore 64 said:
People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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just as a quick update, i did exactly this (using sk8's CWM recovery) and it seems to have worked like a charm. did a clean wipe (factory reset/format cache, data, system, dalvik's) and then installed Cyanogenmod 10.1 N15. then before rebooting i restored just the data. worked pretty well!
fightinfilipino said:
just as a quick update, i did exactly this (using sk8's CWM recovery) and it seems to have worked like a charm. did a clean wipe (factory reset/format cache, data, system, dalvik's) and then installed Cyanogenmod 10.1 N15. then before rebooting i restored just the data. worked pretty well!
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Good for you. But that is almost the same as a dirty flash.
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rushi.1986 said:
Good for you. But that is almost the same as a dirty flash.
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oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
fightinfilipino said:
oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
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You shouldn't restore anything.
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fightinfilipino said:
oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
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There is no best way because there's always a risk it will cause issues. Either accept the level of risk involved or do what's recommended, you can't have your cake and eat it too in this case.
Personally I use android tuner pro as a backup solution. I know the risks involved and I don't post and complain when it doesn't work I find the problem and fix it or I do what I'm supposed to do.
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mtdew said:
There is no best way because there's always a risk it will cause issues. Either accept the level of risk involved or do what's recommended, you can't have your cake and eat it too in this case.
Personally I use android tuner pro as a backup solution. I know the risks involved and I don't post and complain when it doesn't work I find the problem and fix it or I do what I'm supposed to do.
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the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
fightinfilipino said:
the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
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His answer was far from snarky and was actually correct the method stated is just a dirty flash with more steps and is more risky.
It's recommended not to restore anything but if you must be ready to accepted the consequence if there are any. Typically with android tuner I don't have issues.
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fightinfilipino said:
the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
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I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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rushi.1986 said:
I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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99% of the time you won't but with all of the changes recently all precautions needed to be taken. Like I said I normally don't have too many issues, every once in a while though.
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Restoring user apps will not mess up your ROM. Unless it is root related y would it? If the app doesn't work after install then install it from the market.
Restoring system apps can effect your ROM. Most system apps are different based on the ROM that you use. Example being restoring them from cm 10 to cm 10.1, or even different nightlies.
Titanium backup is the way to go. Chronium aka helium is supposed to be good, its a preference thing IMO.
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rushi.1986 said:
I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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This is a good way to go.. If it works for you, then you have your solution. Thing is, everyone's phone has had different experiences with different apps, ROMs, settings, etc. and what works for one may not work for another.
Personally, I prefer the backup feature in ROM Toolbox pro. Easy to use, bulk features, and I had fewer issues than on TiBu. BUT, with all the recent app updates trying to keep up with Rom changes, I've found it to be far more stable to just reinstall from the Play store. It seems to also be prudent to get rid of any app that may be redundant to native ROM features (in my case). Just keep it simple.
Contacts and calendar data syncs with Google.
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wouldnt it be good idea to make a sticky about the fact that titanium backup causes more problems than its good for,most of the posts i have read about probs have one thing in common they all tried to restore a titanium back up now this wont work and that fc's or it just wont stop rebooting, factory reset and flash seems to always work and if ya.want a different kernel let it boot one time then install the kernel,naturally after you wiped cache and delvik again. those two ways always seem to work
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Never, ever restore system data. I bet if everyone that had a problem only hit "restore missing user apps" there wouldn't be a problem.
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Titanium backup rarely causes problems unless you restore system apps. Tibu is one of the most useful apps in the market, I would never discourage anyone from using it. It's especially helpful to have backups of an app that gets updated & then you find out the update breaks something or removes a good feature.
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Keep tb, lose rom manager
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restore missing apps and app data ONLY...never had a single problem the only system data i restore is the HTC desktop so i don't have to reconfigure my home screens...works like a charm
No problems here. You just have to be smart about what you restore. There is no "one click" method.
I think we are looking at user error ... but blame the software if you must.
As others have pointed out, I've never had an issue with Titanium Backup. Great software! Just do not restore system apps + data.
lynneddington said:
Keep tb, lose rom manager
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Ha, ditto.
Can we ditch rom manager or do you have to have it installed for CWR?
now if only there was something for unrooted phones to backup before they root so they could avoid that initial loss
patdroid1 said:
restore missing apps and app data ONLY...never had a single problem the only system data i restore is the HTC desktop so i don't have to reconfigure my home screens...works like a charm
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Lmao I literally almost said this exact post word for word in another thread.. even down to the works like a charm.
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I have had a problem with titanium backup, but it might be a setting. I restored using Titanium Backup from my Droid Incredible with no apparent issues to my 1st Thunderbolt. I did a backup w/ both Titanium and MybackupPro before swapping out my Thunderbolts. I always backup twice on my phones in case something goes wrong. Oh FYI it did go wrong before I returned the Thunderbolt I copied the MyBackup, but forgot the Titanium data. This is why i always double my efforts as I always forget something.
On my 2nd Thunderbolt I started to restore MyBackupPro data after unchecking everything that was a system app. I never looked into how to have MyBackupPro only copy user apps+data since I discovered Titanium. As soon as I went into Market Place multiple app updates downloaded.
For reasons that I am not sure why I decided to do it I did a hard reset to factory defaults. I copied my incredible data back over to the 2nd Thunderbolt and did a restore. None of the apps required updating from an older backup. I'm just wondering if something didn't restore correctly to market?
Powell730 said:
Lmao I literally almost said this exact post word for word in another thread.. even down to the works like a charm.
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Thats funny because I was just reading that thread thinking "where the hell did my post go"?
This may be a dumb question, but should you let apps download automatically after a wipe / new Rom install, and then have TB restore some apps with user data I need? Or is it better the skip the automatic download altogether and restore everything through TB? Thanks!
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I'm stock and rooted. Used ROM manager to install CWR, then Titanium Pro to uninstall ROM.
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The only issue I have had with titanium backup is that when I went to restore my apps and their data it did not seem to restore any of the data, just the apps. I was a little discouraged at first but then figured maybe the original location on my old droid X might have been different then where it is on the Thunderbolt. I doubt it but that's what I keep telling myself since the app data won't restore.
Recently had problems with restoring app data as well...hmmm... In my case it is probably user error.
Without Titanium Backup, I would not be as willing to try new ROMs. As with all things relating to rooting and flashing custom ROMs, you have to learn how to use the tools and understand their limitations.
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jrgalarza1 said:
Recently had problems with restoring app data as well...hmmm... In my case it is probably user error.
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I've had the same problem when moving to a GB-based ROM. So what is this "user error" that we're committing?
cowisland said:
This may be a dumb question, but should you let apps download automatically after a wipe / new Rom install, and then have TB restore some apps with user data I need? Or is it better the skip the automatic download altogether and restore everything through TB? Thanks!
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It's up to you really but that's how I do it. Just restore the data to apps that need that data and you can restore apps that didn't D/l from market and Ti will link them to the market so you'll still get updates.
I have no problem with TiBackup restoring data. When I move to GB ROMs (maybe that's just coincidence) Ti 'forgets' my settings so I have to setup my custom labels and scheduled backups again. I used to backup and restore texts (which is system data) but since switching between Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs I've gotten a separate app to do that if I want to take my SMS/MMS to my new ROM. Never backup/restore system data. I wish there was a way to exclude system data in TiBackup without also excluding uninstalled.
Hey,
I'm new to all this ROM flashing stuff. I did a couple and they worked overall pretty well (I didn't expect flawless), but each time I've had to reconfigure the device all over again, reinstall all apps, etc. Any easy way to avoid doing this? It ends up leading to a lot of wasted time I could be spending finding other ways to mess with my phone...hehe.
John
Sync up all your contacts and use titanium backup for restoring and backing up apps.
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vintshave said:
Hey,
I'm new to all this ROM flashing stuff. I did a couple and they worked overall pretty well (I didn't expect flawless), but each time I've had to reconfigure the device all over again, reinstall all apps, etc. Any easy way to avoid doing this? It ends up leading to a lot of wasted time I could be spending finding other ways to mess with my phone...hehe.
John
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i bought titanium backup exactly for this reason. the paid version installs everything very fast and automatically, the free version is still helpful but you have to manually press install and ok on every app.
Also along with TB try to remember to make a "Safe" NAND backup for your phone when it is set up and working great. This is a life saver when you flash an awesome "insert something here" and it eff's up your phone you then have a clean working backup to return to with little fuss. Rom manager does it along with a few others. Welcome to the fun. Remember to READ the forum carefully their have been a lot of Hard bricks lately because people tried to install a non compatible ROM.
Titanium backup is the way to go. I want to make an android application that restores all your data from a nandroid backup after you flash a new ROM...
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Thanks for asking this!
Thanks for asking this! I've flashed custom ROMs on my old phone, but started over from square one each time. I assumed everyone did this. I've heard of Titanium Backup many times, but I guess I always assumed people just wanted a safety net. I didn't realize you could use it to "re-install" apps into a newly flashed ROM.
M0D1441 said:
Titanium backup is the way to go. I want to make an android application that restores all your data from a nandroid backup after you flash a new ROM...
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Oh do it mod!
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M0D1441 said:
Titanium backup is the way to go. I want to make an android application that restores all your data from a nandroid backup after you flash a new ROM...
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You mean like app extractor?
Its in the market
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00mred00 said:
You mean like app extractor?
Its in the market
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who makes this?
Go to the market and buy titanium back up its, the best out there after flashing rom go to titanium back up again and Pico the apps you want back on you device or reinstall them all
I use SMS backup and restore too when I wipe all my phone data, which I found in the market. It backups your text messages to sd card before you wipe and you can restore after. I find it quite helpful.
Make sure you restore apps only withTB don't restore data it can cause problems. I only restore data on a small hand full of apps individually.
If you use a custom launcher they can usually back up seeing and home screen use that.
I would suggest making a nand backup of a fresh stock rom before you install apps as to keep its size small
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Also important to mention that if you go between different versions of Android then never restore system data as it will usually cause force closes
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sk8erwitskil said:
i bought titanium backup exactly for this reason. the paid version installs everything very fast and automatically, the free version is still helpful but you have to manually press install and ok on every app.
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Yeah, I download Titanium and its da bomb, however, I was a bit concerned about overwriting system apps. If you do a complete restore, won't you bugger up your newly flashed device completely? I also noticed that when, for example, I restored Amazon WITH data, it made me enter my id and pw all over again.
Fortunately, I haven't bricked mine yet. I'm eager to avoid doing that as it would cost me $$$$ to replace it. Is it a problem returning a bricked device under warranty by essentially playing "dumb" user?
I only back up user apps.
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What about when your just updating a rom? Do you still need to wipe and restore with TB or can you just flash the update?
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Advanced restore in cwm, make a nandroid before you flash, then choose advanced restore and restore data, good to go, no app needed
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I always use Titanium backup for restoring the apps... There are a few in the market but most of them did not work well for me (although they have quite good rating). I have a Titanium free so I have to select the apps I want to re-install and do it one at a time if you are willing to spend money I will say that you get the paid version where it is much easier to re-install
N'joy
luigic81 said:
Advanced restore in cwm, make a nandroid before you flash, then choose advanced restore and restore data, good to go, no app needed
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Thank God I'm not the only one who knows this.
luigic81 said:
Advanced restore in cwm, make a nandroid before you flash, then choose advanced restore and restore data, good to go, no app needed
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To be honest, I didn't know about this. And so this works when going from any ROM to any ROM?? It's as simple as that? No special considerations for certain situations?
Hello All,
I've already successfully rooted and installed CWM touch.
I have also spend hours and hours reading the forums before actually attempting to flash my first ROM. To which the process seems straight forward.
But after all I have read, I still have some questions and need some clarifications on few things. I hope someone can take the time to answer them for me.
CWM nandroid backups only backup the current ROM. No apps, settings, or personal data.
Titanium backups contain all the Apps and their settings.
Questions regarding Titanium Backups:
- Do the "settings" backups include login credentials (username/password)?
- Does it backup system type settings? WiFi hotspots, keys, sync accounts, etc? I noticed Wifi in the backup list, but wanted to confirm.
- What, if any, system/app settings are not included in a Titanium backup?
Non-Titanium Backup Questions:
- What is used to backup pics, music, downloads, and other personal data?
- Is a full factory reset suggested/recommended when switching between ROMs (i.e CM9 to SkyICS)? Or is this an overkill, and wiping is enough?
- If I ever chose to perform a full factory reset. Do I just restore everything from Titanium Backup?
- Are there any backup items which I should avoid restoring?
- Is there anything which won't be restored?
Basically I don't want to be caught with my pants down and find out I lost XYZ should something go wrong, or should I ever do a factory reset.
Thanks in advance for any information/guidance anybody can provide.
Best Regards,
Gavin
Nandroid:
Backs up everything on your phone.
All you data, settings, apps, personal data. EVERYTHING.
TB:
Backs up apps+ App data
It also backs up your wifi settings and sync account info.
If you install a fresh ROM you can use TB to reinstall your apps +app data and other things you select.
As for your pictures, music, download, ext. You don't need to worry about these. You can do a factory reset and you will still have all your music, pictures, ext.
Rom:
Every ROM has it's own method of instillation and updating.
Standard method:
1. Factory Reset/Wipe Data
2. Wipe Cache
3. Advance Settings -> Wipe Dalvik Cache
4. Mounts and Storage -> Format /Data
5. Mounts and Storage -> Format /System
6. Mounts and Storage -> Format /Cache
Now your safe to install a fresh new ROM.
Thanks!
Sounds like switching between ROMs isn't as painful as I thought.
I've been wanting to, but dreading to because of all the configurings I thought I would have to redo.
I use titanium backup as well as mybackup pro for holding onto senstive info for reinstallation on new roms. They are a power combo for apks, contacts, sms logs, bookmarks, etc. The list goes on, but they've gotten me through a few tough spots!
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Nandroid backs up everything EXCEPT the radio (modem). You'll need to flash a radio after a nandroid restore IF you want a different radio than what is currently on modem partition.
Coming from a relatively new Android/linux user with a background firmly rooted in Windows, I assure you that the process of flashing is definitely much less harrowing than it sounds.
Reading + discretion = winning!
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Shankre said:
Thanks!
Sounds like switching between ROMs isn't as painful as I thought.
I've been wanting to, but dreading to because of all the configurings I thought I would have to redo.
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If you've read everything (which it seems like you have) and you're careful to follow the dev's instructions to the letter, it's really easy. The whole process only takes about 10 minutes from backup to rebooting the new ROM once you're used to it.
robcore said:
I use titanium backup as well as mybackup pro for holding onto senstive info for reinstallation on new roms. They are a power combo for apks, contacts, sms logs, bookmarks, etc. The list goes on, but they've gotten me through a few tough spots!
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Does Titanium backup not save sms, call logs and such?
What does mybackup pro do that Titanium doesn't? Is it for redundancy/peace of mind?
How do people backup personal data, pics, downloads, music, etc? I like to have backups in case the phone is ever lost or broken.
Thanks!
Shankre said:
Does Titanium backup not save sms, call logs and such?
What does mybackup pro do that Titanium doesn't? Is it for redundancy/peace of mind?
How do people backup personal data, pics, downloads, music, etc? I like to have backups in case the phone is ever lost or broken.
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I won't speak to Tibu saving call logs, etc., because I'm not sure. I don't restore system data (unless I'm having a stupid moment), as it can cause problems that force a re-wipe and re-flash.
I can tell you that the easiest way to back up personal data etc. is to move it off of the phone/SD card and onto your computer ASAP. That's how I do it.
I am still on AT&T GB 2.3.5.
Looking for a daily driver that's stable and good on the battery. Basic apps ok, but no carrier bloat.
Preferably JB if they are stable, otherwise ICS is fine.
Any ROM suggestions to start with first. There seem to be so many out there... Dont know which to try. The nexus mod and unnamed seemed interesting but were abandonded. CM10? Skyics (margerine)? Other?
Also, why would I want or need a different/modified kernel?
Thanks again everyone for the very helpful info!
T.J. Bender said:
I won't speak to Tibu saving call logs, etc., because I'm not sure. I don't restore system data (unless I'm having a stupid moment), as it can cause problems that force a re-wipe and re-flash.
I can tell you that the easiest way to back up personal data etc. is to move it off of the phone/SD card and onto your computer ASAP. That's how I do it.
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Yup, its as easy as plugging in a usb cord then dragging and dropping to your pc ( dont ask me about macs...). And titanium backup is primarily an apk backup/restore/freeze application, including system apps.
The other info just isnt an included feature in TB, youd have to ask its developer why.
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Shankre said:
I am still on AT&T GB 2.3.5.
Looking for a daily driver that's stable and good on the battery. Basic apps ok, but no carrier bloat.
Preferably JB if they are stable, otherwise ICS is fine.
Any ROM suggestions to start with first. There seem to be so many out there... Dont know which to try. The nexus mod and unnamed seemed interesting but were abandonded. CM10? Skyics (margerine)? Other?
Also, why would I want or need a different/modified kernel?
Thanks again everyone for the very helpful info!
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No rom suggestions try them yourself as asking for a best rom is not accepted by our moderators
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Illnevertell said:
No rom suggestions try them yourself as asking for a best rom is not accepted by our moderators
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I didn't ask for a "best", since I know each ROM has its pros and cons.
Was hoping for some direction based on the needs/preferences mentioned.
Also was inquired as to the stability of current JB releases, as well as opinions for some ROMs which I had already identified as possibilities for my needs.
Were my questions that unreasonable that I shouldn't ask the more experienced users of this community?
Shankre said:
I didn't ask for a "best", since I know each ROM has its pros and cons.
Was hoping for some direction based on the needs/preferences mentioned.
Also was inquired as to the stability of current JB releases, as well as opinions for some ROMs which I had already identified as possibilities for my needs.
Were my questions that unreasonable that I shouldn't ask the more experienced users of this community?
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They are unreasonable in the sense that it creates lots of problems as no one rom is better than another and its based on usage I will ask that you avoid the question the moderators don't want to see endorsement of individuals work over another so try them out for yourself and see what you like
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Illnevertell said:
They are unreasonable in the sense that it creates lots of problems as no one rom is better than another and its based on usage I will ask that you avoid the question the moderators don't want to see endorsement of individuals work over another so try them out for yourself and see what you like
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Understood. That was not my intention at all.
Hi there! I've been reading (a lot) around here the last months and that's been really helpfull. Went from stock GB on my locked XPS through just about all ROM's available for XPS to CM10 now. Thanks XDA, thanks all!
Still a real lot to learn. One of the things that really keeps me wondering is which method (besides a Nandroid) I shld use for backing up. Google takes care of my contacts and settings automatically. But what is the best tool to backup and restore my apps (question 1)? I've used Astro, Go Backup and several others I can't even remember. And if I use one, do I still need Gapps all the time or is that doing a double job (question 2)?
My last question: I understand doing an upgrade of your custom rom you don't need to swipe, so your data stays. But if you do need to, when can you do a data restore after installing a new ROM (question 3)?
1. For backing up and restoring apps, I use Titanium Backup and I think most people would swear by it ( it's worth the donate for the extra features ). For sms though, GoSMS's backup feature is the best working one for me.
2. I'm pretty sure you still need to flash Gapps, but I'm not sure. Been off Cyan for a while. Besides, I think flashing Gapps is faster than restoring through most backup apps.
3. It depends on the rom and you should read the ROM's thread, but I always wipe between updates just in case ( I have an SGSII ). If you mean restore data by Titanium or another app, I think after letting the phone sit for 10 minutes on initial new ROM boot, you can start restoring apps. If you mean selectively restoring just data through nandroid though, I'm not sure if that should even be done, or how exactly to minimize issues.
Hope that helps.
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1. For backing up and restoring apps, I use Titanium Backup and I think most people would swear by it ( it's worth the donate for the extra features ). For sms though, GoSMS's backup feature is the best working one for me.
2. I'm pretty sure you still need to flash Gapps, but I'm not sure. Been off Cyan for a while. Besides, I think flashing Gapps is faster than restoring through most backup apps.
3. It depends on the rom and you should read the ROM's thread, but I always wipe between updates just in case ( I have an SGSII ). If you mean restore data by Titanium or another app, I think after letting the phone sit for 10 minutes on initial new ROM boot, you can start restoring apps. If you mean selectively restoring just data through nandroid though, I'm not sure if that should even be done, or how exactly to minimize issues.
Hope that helps.
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tx DIMENSIONAL!
Late night yesterday I ran into this app here on fxp: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859261 Maybe that might become (be) handy? Not for me yet, due to problems with XPS for this app at the moment
2. Gapps.... Gapps is faster for sure. But not off course not exactly the things you want.... But there's something out to make your own zip.file with all your apps and/or other data and system files in it I think. Stopped reading when it got to complicated for me to try without much feedback at that moment. Sorry I forgot to mark the thread. Lost it for now.
3. I did this data restore thing once after reading a tip in a thread for a particular ROM here somewhere.
VincentKnife said:
tx DIMENSIONAL!
Late night yesterday I ran into this app here on fxp: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859261 Maybe that might become (be) handy? Not for me yet, due to problems with XPS for this app at the moment
2. Gapps.... Gapps is faster for sure. But not off course not exactly the things you want.... But there's something out to make your own zip.file with all your apps and/or other data and system files in it I think. Stopped reading when it got to complicated for me to try without much feedback at that moment. Sorry I forgot to mark the thread. Lost it for now.
3. I did this data restore thing once after reading a tip in a thread for a particular ROM here somewhere.
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edit: installed titanium backup; needs a lot of reading agai,n but looks great! tx again!
Another vote for titanium & the pro key here. I prefer"appextractor“ from the play store for my sms/mms restore & I also use the contact restore feature, since it also takes care of my call log (both of these features use data from nandroid), since I have given up on using titanium to restore sms & get the time accurate.
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I have searched so many times and I have no clue how to do this. I have tried just using nandroid manager to restore but it ends up just restoring the app, not the app data..
Is the only true solution to this would be restoring the kitkat nandroid and using titanium backup all my apps?
Thanks for the halps.
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I have searched so many times and I have no clue how to do this. I have tried just using nandroid manager to restore but it ends up just restoring the app, not the app data..
Is the only true solution to this would be restoring the kitkat nandroid and using titanium backup all my apps?
Thanks for the halps.
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You need Helium from the playstore. Save out your apps and data before you do your clean install.
DJW6927 said:
You need Helium from the playstore. Save out your apps and data before you do your clean install.
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I'm already on lollipop, I am trying to restore from a nandroid backup made in TWRP.
_ASSASSIN_ said:
I'm already on lollipop, I am trying to restore from a nandroid backup made in TWRP.
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You can't do that. The right way to to do it is to backup your apps with Titanium or Backup+ before changing ROMs and then you can restore after flashing.
I wouldn't ever recommend restoring App data from an earlier android version such as 4.4 to 5.0.
Sure some might turn out OK, but why not take the extra time and upgrade with some care and patience. There is no "official" Lollypop firmware for our device yet so given the bugs already present plus the ones you are most definitely going to add if you restore old data, how do you think your experience is going to be?
Also, this is a development forum, how will you troubleshoot issues with new builds or features when you haven't started fresh.
Now there's always exceptions to the rule, I have no idea what type of apps or why it must be so important to not do this clean.... So I won't say its lazy LoL, but something to consider.
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I wouldn't ever recommend restoring App data from an earlier android version such as 4.4 to 5.0.
Sure some might turn out OK, but why not take the extra time and upgrade with some care and patience. There is no "official" Lollypop firmware for our device yet so given the bugs already present plus the ones you are most definitely going to add if you restore old data, how do you think your experience is going to be?
Also, this is a development forum, how will you troubleshoot issues with new builds or features when you haven't started fresh.
Now there's always exceptions to the rule, I have no idea what type of apps or why it must be so important to not do this clean.... So I won't say its lazy LoL, but something to consider.
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There's nothing wrong with restoring user app data across Android versions. I've done it countless (yes, countless) times Ann's I've never had an issue. It's system settings and data that can't be restored when changing Android versions or even ROMs.
"Old" user app data has never, ever, caused a single bug for me and I've done it thousands of times.
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OK, although it may not affect the android system, apps force closing and then being reported in development threads as a bug does have a measurable affect.
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nadiros said:
OK, although it may not affect the android system, apps force closing and then being reported in development threads as a bug does have a measurable affect.
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Like I said, in the thousands of times I've restored apps+data I've had zero problems. No force closes. None. Nada. Zilch. Zip. Honestly, 90% of "problems" and "bugs" that are reported on XDA are caused to user error because that user has no idea what they're doing.
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I wouldn't ever recommend restoring App data from an earlier android version such as 4.4 to 5.0.
Sure some might turn out OK, but why not take the extra time and upgrade with some care and patience. There is no "official" Lollypop firmware for our device yet so given the bugs already present plus the ones you are most definitely going to add if you restore old data, how do you think your experience is going to be?
Also, this is a development forum, how will you troubleshoot issues with new builds or features when you haven't started fresh.
Now there's always exceptions to the rule, I have no idea what type of apps or why it must be so important to not do this clean.... So I won't say its lazy LoL, but something to consider.
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Because I play games. I prefer not to sink so many more hours like I already have.
ROM Toolbox also allows you to restore apps+data from nandroid backups so you could give it a shot.
get app backups from a TWRP nandroid
I have Titanium backup pro. In it's menu is the option to 'extract from nandroid backup'
the best solution i tested and working just fine