Will 'alternate' ROMs appear 'rooted' to mobile device management systems (for example vmWareAirWatch)?
I'm talking about alternate ROMs like Nitrogen or some other Android 7.1.1 and later that bring a version of Android that has current software updates, patches and risk reduction features.
Hoping to find out before I spend time installing alternate ROM.
Thanks!
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Original Post : linkedin.com/pulse/google-android-guys-here-idea-you-prashantha-mundkod
Today, I have some business ideas for Google Android guys..
Idea
A tool (a desktop tool and/or android app tool ) for creating ROM and installing stock android.
This tool basically does 3 major tasks.
1. Reads hardware information of an Android device through the desktop/android tool and creates a stock android ROM for that device.
2. Creates a super user , roots the device , installs the ROM created in step 1.
3. Provides an option to keep/remove the super user after the installation based on user sophistication.
(Alternatively, tool will install a generic stock android and then look for appropriate drivers for the device after the installation)
Why do we need a tool ?
Here is what I found while playing around with stock android.
1. Majority of handset manufacturers simply don't bother provide updates . Even if they do, its ridiculously delayed.
2. The UI created by most manufacturers is not innovative or user friendly. They are loaded with ridiculous amount of bloatware. Since they don't bother to provide timely updates either, end user is stuck with an older version of Android regardless of device's capability to support newer versions of android.
3. For an average user, there is no simple way to install a stock android . Users are in mercy of tech forums and developers who volunteer to create custom ROM. Expecting a ROM from volunteers for all devices out there is unrealistic . Trusting those ROMs is another biggest concern as well. Despite the volunteer efforts , installing a stock android ROM still needs some level of IT knowledge , not the cup of tea of an average android user.
4. There is no generic stock android ROM. Reason perhaps is that, creating a package with drivers for thousands of manufacturers would be practically not feasible as the package size would be enormous.
User Experience
An end user who wants a stock android doesn't need to be an IT guy and the tool should be simple to user. Example : Click a button that would read hardware and create the package, next user interaction is a prompt asking the user to install the stock android ROM. All other user interactions such as retaining super user etc is an an option for advanced users.
Manufacturers
Any custom UI or App package a manufacturer wants to push for their device should be updated as App package from manufacturer over a pure android . (Example : Once user install the stock android, manufacturers like Samsung, can push their app like Galaxy gifts etc as a package. )
This would shorten the development cycle for manufacturers as well. Thus updating Android for their device becomes purely a app package for an android version , rather than individual device.
Advantages
For users, clearly the benefit is the ability to have most updated software and experience of pure android and freedom from abandonment of device from manufacturers.
For Google (and Android as a platform ), one of the biggest competitive disadvantage is , its fragmentation. One of the reason for fragmentation is that, for a large number of devices, simply there is no easy way to update the software. The tool could help solve fragmentation issues.
The tool may be included as part of Google's attempt for Android One initiative. Certainly , no explanation is necessary on how it benefits Google from having one single version of android in all (or at-least as many devices as possible) android devices.
For now, that's it . When i am free, I will post the details on how exactly they should do it .
Experts... What do you think ?
Disclaimer : Views expressed are my own.
If you'll remember the April Fools joke on Lineage OS's website, there was this fake program called Br0Zip:
We know our users; their biggest desire is to be able to get a stable custom rom on their device. Painlessly.
Lineage supports a lot of devices, but this big number is still small when compared to the amount of the devices available in the market.
One of our main goals is to bring the latest Android version to all those forgotten devices, but we also focus on user experience and security improvements.
The main problem with this cool thing is that you need a developer that builds and fixes all the bugs. It’s a pain, we’ve done it many times.
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Despite the obvious fact that no such thing had been developed, it's actually a good idea.
Picture this: instead of flashing a ROM that adjusts itself (option 3 in the poll - imagine how large that would be if it had support for EVERY SINGLE FEATURE ever developed for Android devices!), have a program which, after the initial setup wizard, detects and downloads the necessary components for your device over the internet via some cloud-based server, then installs those components, restart if needed, and voila! You have a working ROM installed on your Android device. Very much like what Ubuntu, Debian, Mageia, and other Linux-based OSes do when not all the components required are supplied by the live CD or USB image.
What do you all think?
Ah, yes. this old thread. How popular it was back then... Well, at least I got an avatar out of that April Fool's joke.
A ROM, for those who don't know, is an operating system build that runs on your device with basic applications such as an address book, calendar, camera, etc.
A major advantage of Android smartphones is that they can be operated by third-party systems and not only with the original ROM. Custom ROMs replace the pre-installed version of Android on devices. The substitution is made by a variation of the AOSP, adapted by volunteers with 'too much free time'.
These volunteers often work more frequently than the manufacturer itself – at least when it comes to updates.
AOSP?
AOSP means Android Open Source Program. It is a version of the open source code of Android, developed by Google in its consortium of brands to offer a pure version of the system, which is available to anyone. It can be modified by developers without the need to follow standards of Google applications.
Thanks to this project, the birth of custom ROMs like CyanogenMod, Paranoid Android, MIUI and others have come about.
Advantages of custom ROMs
System upgrade for older smartphones
Many Android owners already know this problem: the smartphone is already a year old but the manufacturer hasn't released updates to the device. The new versions of Android are not only interesting because they bring new features but also because they fill security gapps.
Third party firmware uses the official codification of Android as well as a compatible driver for smartphones. This keeps everyone up-to-date on the newest version of Android. And it's not difficult for a custom ROM to be more updated than the original firmware
The smartphone is faster
One of the biggest advantages of using custom ROMs is your smartphone will be faster. Themes and applications preinstalled by the manufacturer are reduced to almost nothing. This saves a lot of memory space and increases the device's performance.
Customization options galore
Custom ROMs not only bring the latest version of Android but also give you many customization options. The possibilities are almost limitless.
You have root access (administrative)
With root access, you have control over all of the functions of your device. With the original Android, some functions are hidden. Now the modified firmware gives you unlimited access to all the features of your smartphone. Furthermore, backups are performed more easily.
Ideal for purists
Since custom ROMs are based on the 'Android Open Source Project' they are enriched with more functions and the appropriate driver by the team behind the community firmware. So if you bought a less stocky Android device like a Sony or Samsung you can still get a stocky experience.
Disadvantages
Custom ROMs are wonderful but before you decide to change your device's original firmware you should familiarize yourself with the disadvantages of the process.
They void the warranty
If your phone is still under warranty, you could have the possibility of voiding it if you decide to install a custom ROM. There are just a few manufacturers that will tolerate changes to the device system. Xiaomi is one of them.
They're a lot of work
Custom ROMs are perfect for those who love a good challenge. But if this doesn't sound like you then you won't like custom ROMs. Between updates, the system root and unstable versions of a device, your patience could reach its limits.
The lack of Google applications
Third-party firmware comes with very few Google apps. The Play Store applications have to be installed again. The Google apps that you will need to install again can be found on the site.
Credits @ SHAHJADE ALAM
Devendar Reddy D said:
A ROM, for those who don't know, is an operating system build that runs on your device with basic applications such as an address book, calendar, camera, etc.
A major advantage of Android smartphones is that they can be operated by third-party systems and not only with the original ROM. Custom ROMs replace the pre-installed version of Android on devices. The substitution is made by a variation of the AOSP, adapted by volunteers with 'too much free time'.
These volunteers often work more frequently than the manufacturer itself – at least when it comes to updates.
AOSP?
AOSP means Android Open Source Program. It is a version of the open source code of Android, developed by Google in its consortium of brands to offer a pure version of the system, which is available to anyone. It can be modified by developers without the need to follow standards of Google applications.
Thanks to this project, the birth of custom ROMs like CyanogenMod, Paranoid Android, MIUI and others have come about.
Advantages of custom ROMs
System upgrade for older smartphones
Many Android owners already know this problem: the smartphone is already a year old but the manufacturer hasn't released updates to the device. The new versions of Android are not only interesting because they bring new features but also because they fill security gapps.
Third party firmware uses the official codification of Android as well as a compatible driver for smartphones. This keeps everyone up-to-date on the newest version of Android. And it's not difficult for a custom ROM to be more updated than the original firmware
The smartphone is faster
One of the biggest advantages of using custom ROMs is your smartphone will be faster. Themes and applications preinstalled by the manufacturer are reduced to almost nothing. This saves a lot of memory space and increases the device's performance.
Customization options galore
Custom ROMs not only bring the latest version of Android but also give you many customization options. The possibilities are almost limitless.
You have root access (administrative)
With root access, you have control over all of the functions of your device. With the original Android, some functions are hidden. Now the modified firmware gives you unlimited access to all the features of your smartphone. Furthermore, backups are performed more easily.
Ideal for purists
Since custom ROMs are based on the 'Android Open Source Project' they are enriched with more functions and the appropriate driver by the team behind the community firmware. So if you bought a less stocky Android device like a Sony or Samsung you can still get a stocky experience.
Disadvantages
Custom ROMs are wonderful but before you decide to change your device's original firmware you should familiarize yourself with the disadvantages of the process.
They void the warranty
If your phone is still under warranty, you could have the possibility of voiding it if you decide to install a custom ROM. There are just a few manufacturers that will tolerate changes to the device system. Xiaomi is one of them.
They're a lot of work
Custom ROMs are perfect for those who love a good challenge. But if this doesn't sound like you then you won't like custom ROMs. Between updates, the system root and unstable versions of a device, your patience could reach its limits.
The lack of Google applications
Third-party firmware comes with very few Google apps. The Play Store applications have to be installed again. The Google apps that you will need to install again can be found on the site.
Credits @ SHAHJADE ALAM
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A custom rom is anything that is not stock from a manufacturer first off, you can have modified stock rom and it is a custom one bc you modified it. What you are talking about here is a source built rom with heavy modifications. Secondly they do not void your warranty. Tripping knox or bootloader security voids your warranty. And this does not always occur when rooting and you can reset that flag most of the time and flash stock firmware before sending your phone back in for warranty.
I have many times found devices or ROMs that have malware installed as system apps. This thread is intended to define a recurring problem and discuss and determine solutions.
Background:
In many cases malware apps can simply and directly be removed with root privileges. A complication, however, arises when the app to be removed is: a rather important app, necessary to run or boot the operating system, or an app of its kind is necessary to run or boot the operating system. Only removing such apps may resolve the malware problem, but creates other major problems such as an inability to meaningfully operate the Android environment or an inability to boot the Android operating system. A few typical examples of such apps are the Settings app and the Package Installer app.
Wherefore, to perform a proper repair, a malware app must instead be patched to remove the malware or replaced with another clean and compatible app.
For basic Android apps, such as the Settings app and Package Installer app, that are malware infected, I would think that the best course of action would be to replace the infected app with a clean AOSP version or clean OEM version. Using the OEM version of the app would only be acceptable if the app were available and the OEM is believed to not have or be the source of the malware.
The Problem Being Considered:
For a malware infected system app to be replaced with a clean AOSP version, my impression of the most obvious option that would be most likely to work would be to build Android from source against the target device and for the same architecture and Android version as the malware-infected system, and then donate its apps as replacements for the malware-infected apps and replace the malware-infected apps. Unfortunately, while the method should be effective, it comes with considerable costs. The sizes of the various Android source codes are quite large and it can take a rather long time to acquire and process it. It is worth considering other options.
Questions to Resolve Problem or Are Related to Problem:
Instead of building Android from source against the target device and for the same architecture and Android version as the malware-infected, AOSP-based system to use as a source for donating replacement apps:
Should it be sufficient to use apps from a pre-built AOSP or AOSP-based build of Android, such as LineageOS, with the same Android version and architecture as the build of Android of the infected device?
Should it be sufficient to use apps from a pre-built AOSP or AOSP-based build of Android for a different device, but with the same Android version and architecture as the infected device? Is the matching of the SoC or processors of the donating Android build and the target Android build important for donation app compatibility purposes?
Is it acceptable to use a build of Android of a different minor version to acquire an app for donation to the malware-infected app build? (For example, malware-infected build may be of Android version 7.0, but other, clean Android build may be of Android 7.1.2)
Can just single Android system app be compiled? If so, would it still require acquiring the source code for the entire Android version?
Are there any generic, pre-built offerings of Android that may be used to acquire the replacement apps for donation to the malware-infected Android build? If so, where?
Any other recommendations or things I may not have thought of?
I have the plan to get my fingers dirty with building Android ROMs for some older devices to provide them with security fixes and maybe new functions.
After looking around in XDA and AOSP, I think, I'll get a grip on the build process. However, I'm absolutely not clear what it means, if the device vendor has discontinued software updating and proprietary elements are available from an older version only. The example is the Nexus 5, where Google stopped software maintenance with Android 6. Would those older modules be still usable? Am I thinking too complicated?
Instead of upgrading the device to a new Android version, which apparently can bump into limitations like memory etc., would security fixes be backported to older Android versions?