Does anyone know if we can use the NFC chip to unlock Samsung's smart door lock? And if so, how? There's appears to be statements around the web saying it's possible but I haven't found any guide I'm doing so.
bliss81 said:
Does anyone know if we can use the NFC chip to unlock Samsung's smart door lock? And if so, how? There's appears to be statements around the web saying it's possible but I haven't found any guide I'm doing so.
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you can use the Samsung app to access information like who checked into the system whilst you were away. Remember, only people you authorized access to can unlock the system. Still, it is good to know who has been entering your house when you are not there.
Personally, I loved the various ways that Samsung has allowed its users to unlock the system. You can do so by using your fingerprint, key fob or a designated pin. The fingerprint option itself is highly secure since key fobs are prone to get misplaced and intruders might be able to work around a pin as well. But a fingerprint? No chance.
For those of you who want to provide this fingerprint access to your siblings and loved ones, you will find the 100 fingerprints option to be convenient. You will have control via the app about whose fingerprint can be used to access the lock system, and you can take back this access whenever you want to.
The digital lock also makes a point of providing convenience by understanding that some people tend to remember a pin with given numbers. For example, I can only remember pins which have five digits in them. This lock can have a pin with as low as four digits and as high as twelve digits.
However, one of the key features of this product is also one which makes its usability selective to a certain kind of door. The design of the smart lock is such that it can only work with handles rather than doors which feature a knob. Hence, if your doors have knobs, you might want to get them changed to handles if you think the product is worth it.
I found this product to be too overpriced, even by my standards. Yes, the fingerprint feature is exemplary and its compatibility with Samsung’s home security feature is equally impressive, but there are various locks that might provide you with some of these features at a low cost.
bliss81 said:
Does anyone know if we can use the NFC chip to unlock Samsung's smart door lock? And if so, how? There's appears to be statements around the web saying it's possible but I haven't found any guide I'm doing so.
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I've never used a smartlock before but you mention nfc and there's an app called card nfc emulator and it does exactly what it says.
As much as I like electronics, etc, and have a fairly complete 'smart house', I will not put a smart lock,that can be triggered via separate gadget, on any exterior door on my property, though most of our exterior entry doors have touch pad entry locks.
I have way too many sentimental's that I could never replace again, not talking $, talking sentimental's.
insurance $ will take care of the other stuff.
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I tried to enable Smart Lock and have run into a couple issues which no amount of searching gave way to results. I'm on a stock unrooted device.
Is there a way to make this feature work based on location? Seems to not work in locations where I set it to. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling google play services to no avail. Rebooting does nothing to fix.
Sometimes when I try to view the Smart Lock settings, after entering the pin/pattern nothing appears in the menu at all. Very buggy. Does this feature just plain suck or something? I'd rather not use face unlock, but this might force me to.
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I tried to enable Smart Lock and have run into a couple issues which no amount of searching gave way to results. I'm on a stock unrooted device.
Is there a way to make this feature work based on location? Seems to not work in locations where I set it to. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling google play services to no avail. Rebooting does nothing to fix.
Sometimes when I try to view the Smart Lock settings, after entering the pin/pattern nothing appears in the menu at all. Very buggy. Does this feature just plain suck or something? I'd rather not use face unlock, but this might force me to.
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I have issues like this. Supposedly, smart Lock not working by location is a bug from Google not op. It is very hit or miss
thejase said:
I have issues like this. Supposedly, smart Lock not working by location is a bug from Google not op. It is very hit or miss
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I wonder if this is an Oreo issue and if it will be fixed in P. Very annoying. I may just drop security all together. I didn't have it on my last phone for over 3 years. I like the idea of it, but not being able to unlock the phone while driving and at "trusted" places is pretty useless.
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I wonder if this is an Oreo issue and if it will be fixed in P. Very annoying. I may just drop security all together. I didn't have it on my last phone for over 3 years. I like the idea of it, but not being able to unlock the phone while driving and at "trusted" places is pretty useless.
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Agreed
And the fingerprint unlock not fast enough for you. I do it in one motion. Pick up phone and unlock just like that
nujackk said:
And the fingerprint unlock not fast enough for you. I do it in one motion. Pick up phone and unlock just like that
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It has nothing to do with speed and everything to do with convenience. Let's not forget that GOOGLE is the one who added the feature. Oreo has been out, in general, for a while. It should just plain work. If I'm at home, why should there be a lock on my device? When I'm out however, it just makes sense to be locked down. Adding a feature that actually doesn't work or works some of the time, is something you'd think they'd have caught during Oreo testing at Google; particularly, as it's an issue with Android, not manufacturers. Even my wife's Galaxy S9+ has this issue.
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I get that but I don't use it as I'm the opposite phone should be locked when not in my hand never know what will happen,who may come over to visit I have lots of nieces and nephews. One who grabs any phone he can.
But I meant it to be fast enough that it's as if it's not locked.
If you want to stick with
Smart lock have you tried use the voice feature it may work.
Also look into Tasker I seem to remember someone using it to unlock the device based on location. I use it to turn on and off my Wi-Fi based on location. Auto start my music when in my truck.
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It has nothing to do with speed and everything to do with convenience. Let's not forget that GOOGLE is the one who added the feature. Oreo has been out, in general, for a while. It should just plain work. If I'm at home, why should there be a lock on my device? When I'm out however, it just makes sense to be locked down. Adding a feature that actually doesn't work or works some of the time, is something you'd think they'd have caught during Oreo testing at Google; particularly, as it's an issue with Android, not manufacturers. Even my wife's Galaxy S9+ has this issue.
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Seems to be working better today. Disabled the "smart lock" in trust agents setting under fingerprint and security, then booted to the stock recovery and wiped the cache only. (I'm not rooted yet, but TWRP would work for this as well). Seems to have led to a fix, but it could be temporary. As for usefulness of smart lock, I am not worried about others in my own home taking my device and combing through it for all I care. If you have kids or are concerned about content on your phone being messed with, just don't use the feature. For a lot of people, it is a useful feature to have.
This issue has returned and requires a cache wipe almost every day. Beyond annoyed. I am considering deleting my fingerprints or any security. Pretty stupid feature that makes the phone require a password every single time I want to use it, when this feature could have alleviated that in so many places where I know my phone is safe (home, work, car).
Oneplus 6 - Phone unlocks with smart lock off on Android P
I don't use smart lock option in my phone but after upgrading to Android P, even when the smart lock option is off, my phone screen opens when picked immediately as it is supposed to show the screen is locked. Any suggestions please
Occasionally, while on call, or when I open my phone, I get this message (image below)
"Password required for additional security"
I have fingerprint unlock saved in the settings. Instead of allowing fingerprint unlock, it requires entering my password/pin. I use a long and secure password, so it takes time to enter it and make sure it's correct. I already enter this password everytime my phone boots, so this additional request is extremely annoying and unnecessary.
Does anyone know Why this additional request is made? What triggers it? Or How to disable it?
Any help is appreciated
I am also interested
I get this occasionally and I have a short pin. I think it is very much "backing" up fingerprint security since no security is perfect. Good security involves something you have "fingerprint" and something you know "pin" since it would be very unlikely an imposter would have both. I would be very surprised if there is a way to turn the random check of your pin off.
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Unfortunately, this "security check" can make your device LESS secure, because it happens at random times. If you're in the grocery store, at someone's house, or anywhere with security camera's, then entering your Pin/Password can be recorded on video. More businesses and people are installing camera's everyday.
In these situations using Fingerprint (instead of Pin) is More Secure. It's for this reason I want to disable it randomly requiring pin/password
hate this
Yep I hate the one that programed this security feature without an obvious way to turn it off, we don't no one telling us what is good for our security. I want it to unlock everytime I touch the finger print scanner, even at startup, and if anything I want it to lock down if I use a certain finger and then require a password.
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I actually have a pretty simple PIN just because of this situation otherwise fingerprint is just fine :/
can this be disabled? everyone can see me type in my pin when this happens
I just had an idea and I though I would share it... imagine you had a lock screen app. You can add one code 1234, it opens your phone. Another one 1345, that opens WhatsApp. All unlock the phone, but they do different actions. Maybe someone could make an app like this...
Or use different fingers on the fingerprint reader to launch different apps
I'm not sure if either is even possible tho... I like to think that unlock codes, patterns and fingerprints etc. are hardware based these days, in which case the phone will not accept different inputs for different things, just like there's just one truecrypt password. Unless the functionality already exists deep within the system.
I may be wrong tho, hope someone will chime in.
you can use the default lockscreen plus an app lock
I just ordered a Pixel 3a and I was gone for a while from the world of Google phones (since Nexus 4).
I know Magisk hides any trace of root and unlocked bootloader, but is there any disadvantages unique to Pixel devices when rooting, like disabled features or is hiding good enough that there won't be any difference? Just to be sure
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I just ordered a Pixel 3a and I was gone for a while from the world of Google phones (since Nexus 4).
I know Magisk hides any trace of root and unlocked bootloader, but is there any disadvantages when rooting, like disabled features or is hiding good enough that there won't be any difference? Just to be sure
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Nothing as far as i know.
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Nothing as far as i know.
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That sounds great. Wasn't sure if they might have done something through the Titan M or else
Rooting means unlocking your bootloader. This makes your phone at greater risk of being compromised - especially if someone has physical access to your phone (ie you lost it and someone finds it). Therefore you don't want to leave your bootloader unlocked if you have any sort of sensitive, illegal, or secret information on your phone. That's the #1 issue you have to live with. Of course for 99% of the population, there isn't anything really sensitive on their phones.
Google Pay can be hard to get working when rooted. There are ways to make it work, but it's always a cat and mouse game with Google and it may not always work in the future if Google changes something until the developers can catch up. If you can't live without Google Pay, rooting may not be the best choice for you.
There are other apps that can be temperamental when rooted - usually finance apps and some games (because they don't want players cheating). However, the Magisk hide functionality usually works with most of these apps now.
For me, the added functionality that being rooted brings (via modules and apps) is far better than the potential issues.
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Rooting means unlocking your bootloader. This makes your phone at greater risk of being compromised - especially if someone has physical access to your phone (ie you lost it and someone finds it). Therefore you don't want to leave your bootloader unlocked if you have any sort of sensitive, illegal, or secret information on your phone. That's the #1 issue you have to live with. Of course for 99% of the population, there isn't anything really sensitive on their phones.
Google Pay can be hard to get working when rooted. There are ways to make it work, but it's always a cat and mouse game with Google and it may not always work in the future if Google changes something until the developers can catch up. If you can't live without Google Pay, rooting may not be the best choice for you.
There are other apps that can be temperamental when rooted - usually finance apps and some games (because they don't want players cheating). However, the Magisk hide functionality usually works with most of these apps now.
For me, the added functionality that being rooted brings (via modules and apps) is far better than the potential issues.
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Tl;dr: nothing new. And never had a problem with any apps. Magisk Hide is working well enough, deleting apps data always works as last resort. And on custom ROMs just use MagiskHide Props Config. And if you are concerned about your data, just use the lockscreen passport as bootup protection. Then it's simply impossible to get to the data through that "insecurity", no matter what you do. And since fingerprint readers a more complex password isn't a problem.
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Tl;dr: nothing new. And never had a problem with any apps. Magisk Hide is working well enough, deleting apps data always works as last resort. And on custom ROMs just use MagiskHide Props Config. And if you are concerned about your data, just use the lockscreen passport as bootup protection. Then it's simply impossible to get to the data through that "insecurity", no matter what you do. And since fingerprint readers a more complex password isn't a problem.
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I'm not sure exactly what you mean by lock screen passport. Can you share some more details?
The insecurity comes from the fact that a person that has physical access to your phone can simply turn the phone off and then start it and hold the power and volume up buttons. This will boot the device into the bootloader. Because the bootloader is unlocked, it allows that person the ability to flash anything and gives that person access to anything they want. That super secure lockscreen password or fingerprint won't help keep them out and does nothing but give users a false sense of security.
When the FBI paid a 1 million dollar bounty to someone to access an iPhone, they were paying someone to get around the bootloader. If you unlock your bootloader, you give this access right from the beginning - for free, and without any effort required.
I'm not trying to be argumentative either. You asked what the drawbacks to rooting were and I was simply trying to give a thorough answer. It's up to the individual user to decide if the the positives of unlocking the bootloader and rooting outweigh the negatives. If you look at my signature, you can see what side of the fence I fall on.
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I'm not sure exactly what you mean by lock screen passport. Can you share some more details?
The insecurity comes from the fact that a person that has physical access to your phone can simply turn the phone off and then start it and hold the power and volume up buttons. This will boot the device into the bootloader. Because the bootloader is unlocked, it allows that person the ability to flash anything they want. That super secure lockscreen password or fingerprint won't help keep them out.
Again, I'm not familiar with this lockscreen passport you mention, so perhaps there is a way to secure the phone that I am not aware of.
I'm not trying to be argumentative either. You asked what the drawbacks to rooting were and I am simply trying to give an thorough answer. It's up to the individual user to decide if the the positives or rooting and unlocking the bootloader outweigh the negatives. If you look at my signature, you can see what side of the fence I fall on.
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Was a typo,I meant lockscreen password. Android should ask you, if you set up a lock method other than Swipe to unlock, if you want to be asked for it on bootup.
So no matter what you are able to flash through an unlocked bootloader, /data and with it anything that could be relevant stays encrypted until you enter the lockscreen pin/pattern/password, no matter if you do this on the screen that will interrupt bootup after a few seconds or in TWRP. So it doesn't matter what you could come up flashing, as long as you don't find a way to extract the encryption key from the secure storage either in Titan M or any ARM processor, there is no way to get your hands on user data. The only thing you can do is simply wipe /data. Then you can start up new, but the users data will be gone.
And no, I never asked for disadvantages of root itself since there are little to none, I just asked for Pixel unique stuff since Google always adds stuff that other OEMs won't use for years to come.
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And no, I never asked for disadvantages of root itself since there are little to none, I just asked for Pixel unique stuff since Google always adds stuff that other OEMs won't use for years to come.
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I misunderstood your initial post then, but the title of the thread says, "Disadvantages of rooting?"
sic0048 said:
I misunderstood your initial post then, but the title of the thread says, "Disadvantages of rooting?"
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Fixed that. Hope the text is more clear now.
But could you reproduce what I explained? Because I would be very surprised if that was unique to Motorola and not AOSP
Hello;
After looking for hours about this I'm very angry because of the stupidity of Google. Here I go:
I have configured fingerprint to unlock my phone because I sometimes can't or it's very uncomfortable for me to unlock my phone with a password / PIN / Pattern because using with one hand and I need to unlock as fast as possible all the time.
Now it comes the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life: no matter what, the phone will ask me to enter whatever I have configured for security, rendering my fingerprint totally useless. This is completely nonsense because it's not configurable by the user. The correct way of doing this is to enable an option for the user to choose: "Additionally ask every 72 hours for the password to provide extra security". Just a checkbox that can be enabled or disabled, because Google should think about the user. This security crazy paranoia is making devices less secure, because people who don't want to enter their password when they have configured fingerprint choose to disable security completely to stop being asked for the damn password.
But I'm asking here because I absolutely know there is a way to disable this, I don't care if it involves hacking / opening / soldering the device, anything to stop this will be welcome, because for me is completely necessary, or else I will have to either sell the phone or disable security completely. Entering the password on startup or when your finger fails 3 times is ok and full of sense, I have no problems with that, but every 72 hours because yes is an absolute no-no, sorry.
I hope somebody knows the exact formula to [email protected] Google / Xiaomi back, because they are simply stupid.
Thanks.
P.S: Please, if you are about to say things like "it's a feature" or "I like it, it makes more secure your device so it makes sense" or "somebody could cut your finger and use it", I prefer you don't post a comment, because I'm looking for a solution not an explanation on why it is like that to understand why the things are done like they are done, I hope you understand.
How about a factory reset?
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How about a factory reset?
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I think this is the right decision.
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I think this is the right decision.
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This is bad design from Google. When I was in the crowd (e.g. inside the train), people surrounding me were looking at my finger typing the PIN as I was not able to unlock it using my fingerprint anymore after 72 hours. It makes the phone becoming very insecure. You should lock the phone with PIN only when I am not inside the crowd (e.g. during evening hour)