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[Q] To Upgrade or Not to Upgrade - that is ze question?

Hello, I only got my HTC ONE mini yesterday and its says there is an upgrade to version 2.12.401.1 - thing is I quite like the firmware at the moment that I am on which is 1.32.401.2 and 4.2.2 - now as i see it the new firmware update will put me on 4.3 if i am correct so say after updating i dont like interface of 4.3 then what am i going to do, i mean i wont be able to go back will i without rooting the phone and installing custom rom, so i dunno whether to update or not, i suppose if it had camera enhancements (bit of over-exposing going on and colour too strong) then that might be a good reason to update but i dont honestly know what to do, update or leave it as it is. Any views/opinions?

andy_from_ireland said:
Hello, I only got my HTC ONE mini yesterday and its says there is an upgrade to version 2.12.401.1 - thing is I quite like the firmware at the moment that I am on which is 1.32.401.2 and 4.2.2 - now as i see it the new firmware update will put me on 4.3 if i am correct so say after updating i dont like interface of 4.3 then what am i going to do, i mean i wont be able to go back will i without rooting the phone and installing custom rom, so i dunno whether to update or not, i suppose if it had camera enhancements (bit of over-exposing going on and colour too strong) then that might be a good reason to update but i dont honestly know what to do, update or leave it as it is. Any views/opinions?
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If I was you, I'd stay where you are - kitkat 4.4.2 will be coming in February - it's a VAST improvement on 4.2 and 4.3..... Unless you actually want to stay on a stock ROM, I'd recommend installing a custom slimmed down kitkat (you'd root and have custom recovery)....

[Q] [NOOB] Flash a 4.4.2 custom rom over a 4.3 firmware ok?

I had some trouble rooting after I first did a 4.4.2 OTA. So I downgraded to 4.3 and got root and installed TWRP without any trouble.
So from a 4.3 firmware I went to Cyanogenmod (Android 4.4.2). Is that ok ? Or do I need to upgrade radio, boot or other parts that dont come with a custom rom? In other words: is a (rooted) 4.4.2 firmware a precondition for installing alternative 4.4.2 roms?

Well, everything might not work perfectly as many things (though little) changed from 4.3 to 4.4. Yup, most of those things (radio,etc) change, flashing a cm11 rom wont change those and cm will most likely need them. Better to upgrade to 4.4. Also, does ART (new kitkat runtime) need anything new from kernel or anything? I don't see anyone who seems to have tried this and might mostly not work.
Also, What root trouble did you have? Easier to solve that issue than deal with any new issues that might arise from this.

hemanthmahesh said:
Well, everything might not work perfectly as many things (though little) changed from 4.3 to 4.4. Yup, most of those things (radio,etc) change, flashing a cm11 rom wont change those and cm will most likely need them. Better to upgrade to 4.4. Also, does ART (new kitkat runtime) need anything new from kernel or anything? I don't see anyone who seems to have tried this and might mostly not work.
Also, What root trouble did you have? Easier to solve that issue than deal with any new issues that might arise from this.
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Thanks. I will look into that. The kernel is included in a ROM though wright? So that wont be an issue I guess... But just to be save I'll flash 4.4.2 firmware and start from there. My problem was I actually got root, but flashed custom roms always got stuck in the boot animation. The thread on that is here.

Why upgrade to 4.4.4?

I'm currently on rooted 4.4 (19.5.3), and I'm debating whether to flash to 4.4.4 or wait till Android L is released. I'm still on locked bootloader and I'm not in a hurry to unlock it via Sunshine if I'm staying with 4.4. Sunshine is great BTW, unlocked the wife's Moto X with it. But even with her phone, I kept it on 4.4.2 to stay on the older bootloader because the way I understand it, once you upgrade to 4.4.4, you will not be able to downgrade to anything lower. So, my logic is, keep it on 4.4, locked, until the landscape is clear unless there are real compelling reasons to unlock and upgrade now. So that is the question, are there any advantages to upgrading other than security and other small improvements? I've flashed the 4.4.4 radios and it didn't improve my reception at all, if anything, it made it worse! It switches to 3G at the house a lot where it used to stay at 4G but I don't care since I'm on wifi. The only thing I really want is the KK dialer which 4.4.4 does not have. I've also switched to the AOSP email apks which I love. Other little interface changes were applied with GravityBox and other Xposed modules. I'm pretty happy where the phone is, what are you guys' thoughts?

Here is the change log you should weight against; https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/100660
I know the bluetooth issue was enough for me to upgrade, finally fixed that issue. Not sure but don't you have to upgrade to this version before upgrading to the next version, if it is L or not?

Thanks for that link. What was the Bluetooth issue in your case? I've Bluetooth'd to my cars just fine. I don't know if 4.4.4 is an prerequisite for Android L, but I've read that it has a new boot loader that can't be downgraded. So if I felt like trying a JB ROM capable of overclocking, I'm out of luck. Not that I would go that route, I really like KK. Just wished it was closer to stock like the Moto X. Which as Topsnake pointed out is a good reason to unlock boot loader to flash his ROM. LOL. I think the bottom line is, I want to wait so I don't close off doors like the guys that upgraded to 4.4.4 before Sunshine came out did.

Johnny Wong said:
Thanks for that link. What was the Bluetooth issue in your case? I've Bluetooth'd to my cars just fine. I don't know if 4.4.4 is an prerequisite for Android L, but I've read that it has a new boot loader that can't be downgraded. So if I felt like trying a JB ROM capable of overclocking, I'm out of luck. Not that I would go that route, I really like KK. Just wished it was closer to stock like the Moto X. Which as Topsnake pointed out is a good reason to unlock boot loader to flash his ROM. LOL. I think the bottom line is, I want to wait so I don't close off doors like the guys that upgraded to 4.4.4 before Sunshine came out did.
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Well if you unlock your guaranteed root regardless of any updates

IMHO, I would just hang off updating to 4.4.4. Here's why:
1. If you change your mind, you can unlock the bootloader and that is rarely a negative thing.
2. You can root your phone and flash custom recoveries. Having root permissions gives you unbelievable control and customization. Custom recoveries will definitely save you some unnecessary grief in case you make a mistake. It's very hard to brick your phone with a good recovery like TWRP or CWM.
3. You can flash Android L based ROMS which I'm sure will be coming out soon. ASOP, AOKP and stock unbloated ROMS give your phone a brand new life and a bit more battery life.

You can just unlock your phone's BL and stay in 4.4, just like now...

Johnny Wong said:
Thanks for that link. What was the Bluetooth issue in your case? I've Bluetooth'd to my cars just fine. I don't know if 4.4.4 is an prerequisite for Android L, but I've read that it has a new boot loader that can't be downgraded. So if I felt like trying a JB ROM capable of overclocking, I'm out of luck. Not that I would go that route, I really like KK. Just wished it was closer to stock like the Moto X. Which as Topsnake pointed out is a good reason to unlock boot loader to flash his ROM. LOL. I think the bottom line is, I want to wait so I don't close off doors like the guys that upgraded to 4.4.4 before Sunshine came out did.
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Yes you are correct, once you move to 4.4.4 you cannot go back due to the new boot-loader not being backwards compatible. My Bluetooth issues were with any Bluetooth device it would constantly blip randomly via my car or anything connected via Bluetooth. Moto pushes out the updates to devices in order (i.e. you have to go from 4.2 to 4.4 to 4.4.4 to L), but if you obtain the update files manually you may be able to skip 4.4.4 and go straight to the next one (if that even is L or not), but that is a big maybe.

[Q] OTA update

Hi guys.
So AT&T released a software update to my d850, and it prompts to update each time I restart device, where I have to force stop/hibernate software updater.
I'm rooted on stock KK 4.4.2 and I'm comfortable with battery life, functionality, and the overall performance of g3. So I'm hesitant about the Lollipop upgrade, as I've never really bothered flashing any ROMs since I was satisfied with my g3 experience.
So can anyone give some pros/cons they've noticed with the stock Lolipop ? Is it worth the switch?
I have a general idea of what I would need to do to update. Unroot, restore the bloatware I have removed using LGs PC suite, update and root again. Or is there a flashable zip of the update that i can just download? I hit update during first prompt and I was stuck rebooting into TWRP so i had to flash an image recovery file to get back.

Best bet is to go read on the lounge and threads related to see all different all experiences

I agree that the lounge is probably the best place for answers to determine if you feel it is worth the effort. My personal experience was that lollipop didn't bring much new. Most was minor cosmetic stuff and I feel like performance is ever so slightly smoother but this could be a placebo. If you use xposed then sticking with KK for now is the way to go. The line can explain this more. If you choose to stay on KK for now, use TiBu to freeze and clear data of the software update to prevent the phone from nagging about the update. I updated out of curiosity mostly and since the use of xposed is not a big deal for me, I stock with L.

Shaxxi said:
Hi guys.
So AT&T released a software update to my d850, and it prompts to update each time I restart device, where I have to force stop/hibernate software updater.
I'm rooted on stock KK 4.4.2 and I'm comfortable with battery life, functionality, and the overall performance of g3. So I'm hesitant about the Lollipop upgrade, as I've never really bothered flashing any ROMs since I was satisfied with my g3 experience.
So can anyone give some pros/cons they've noticed with the stock Lolipop ? Is it worth the switch?
I have a general idea of what I would need to do to update. Unroot, restore the bloatware I have removed using LGs PC suite, update and root again. Or is there a flashable zip of the update that i can just download? I hit update during first prompt and I was stuck rebooting into TWRP so i had to flash an image recovery file to get back.
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And there are stock roms in the forums, just flash a stock (lp) ROM done. If you don't like flash back to a backup of kk
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Why I don't receive update to lolipop on my D850?
If connect to pc says ...no update availible,have stock 4.4.2 and same message if try to OTA.
My phone is AT&T factory unlocked and live in Europe(Romania).
What can I do?
Thanks

adilau said:
Why I don't receive update to lolipop on my D850?
If connect to pc says ...no update availible,have stock 4.4.2 and same message if try to OTA.
My phone is AT&T factory unlocked and live in Europe(Romania).
What can I do?
Thanks
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you have to be on the at&t network to receive updates from them

Another way without root?
Trimis de pe G3

I just bought my phone and Im on Tmobile, do you know how do I upgrade to lollipop?
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Random Freezing

Has anyone since having this phone, plain stock rooted, either KK, LL, or MM had at anytime random freezing? This would include apps or even with the keyboard.. I'm stock rooted LL 5.0 and started having this issue today.. I got the phone with MM, but personally do not like MM, as it seems not much in the way of TW roms.. I only had MM for a short time, before downgrading to LL. So this could be a software issue or hardware not sure.. I might go back to stock rooted MM to see. I also do not have any custom kernel with this, left everything alone and only have TWRP, and SU for root. Thanks.

Well after messing around, I figure it was software.. MM is a complete joke, went back down to LL and installed MOAR 7.1 and so far it's working just fine..