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You're a power user. Can the OnePlus 2 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the OnePlus 2. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I think the oneplus2 wont get the development as opo got. Most of the developers are selling their phones(eg. ak). Its really sad as I bought this phone expecting a healthy development community. And the worst part is , I have to use this phone for at least 2 years now
I miss OPO dev community
No official CM, no OxygenOS sources...
I'm quite disappointed to be honest. Coming from a Nexus 5 i was expecting to have Marshmallow by now.. No custom roms really that are worth installing. Also saw on oneplus forums that ~30 developers were going to develop for this phone. Where are they...
Beagan said:
I'm quite disappointed to be honest. Coming from a Nexus 5 i was expecting to have Marshmallow by now.. No custom roms really that are worth installing. Also saw on oneplus forums that ~30 developers were going to develop for this phone. Where are they...
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Same here, coming from a Nexus 4 :/
Coming from a Nexus 4 I'm somewhat disappointed as well but it's not that bad, CM is really stable and faster than Oxygen, maybe things will get better after official Marshmallow update
Its just a shame. The community they have over with the OPO is great. But here not so much. Hopefully they'll release the source code for the laser and fingerprint scanner. I'm not that hopeful though. I have my nexus 5 for 2 years. The longest I've kept a phone for and that was because of the development community
I just want to see MultiROM and Ubuntu for smartphones on OPT, but until now my OPT is fully stock..
I wouldn't even care if I stayed with stock as long as i had marsallow and the updates were fast. Oxygen is almost completely stock..
I still dont understand why they havent release the source code for this phone...
Oxygen, although is good, is lack a kicking ass power that can be brought by other custom rom and kernel... ::sigh
I really expect this development community will be as big as OPO... C'monn oneplus, be more reasonable, and dont overrate ypurself too much. You are just a little company without community support. Its the community that make OPO one of the best phone ever after all
I'd like to see what other people think about this. I can't really make or break a device
What are you guys saying? The community development is healthy. OnePlus did say they will release the source code for the finger print scanner when marshmallow is released. Releasing it right now for the Lollipop version would only be short lived since marshmallow will come out
This is such a pointless thread. The reason development is almost non-existent is due to the drivers for the fingerprint sensor and laser auto focus not being made publicly available. Once those are available with the Marshmallow update, then the development for this phone will take off. Its a matter of patience.
Development is going good. To justify the absence of the fingerprint scanner and laser autofocus codes as lack of development is inaccurate lol
ONeplus did say that the reason the codes for the fingerprint scanner were not released because the device is about to get the Marshmallow update. THey will begin to release it upon update. Patience my comrades
ak is selling his OPT? Whaaaaat?
I really wanted Oneplus 2 to be the Nexus killer.. but it seems that will never be true.
lurker316 said:
I really wanted Oneplus 2 to be the Nexus killer.. but it seems that will never be true.
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OP2 will never be a nexus killer. Its not a 2016 Flagship killer as they marketed it, hell its not even a 2015 flagship killer. But Its a one hell of a device. Great looks, good performance, its a decent little package. Only thing that's missing now is the community support. I know it still sucks that there isn't a CM13 rom yet. I have high hopes that this is gonna change with the official Android M update. The complete source will be available soon. Since the OP2 is available now without invite I guess more devs will get their hands on the device.
Stay positive guys. Cheers.
gobig89 said:
This is such a pointless thread. The reason development is almost non-existent is due to the drivers for the fingerprint sensor and laser auto focus not being made publicly available. Once those are available with the Marshmallow update, then the development for this phone will take off. Its a matter of patience.
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shigi1231 said:
What are you guys saying? The community development is healthy. OnePlus did say they will release the source code for the finger print scanner when marshmallow is released. Releasing it right now for the Lollipop version would only be short lived since marshmallow will come out
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i do agree with you both to some extent BUT i do think that OnePlus really dropped the ball. people don't want to wait 6-8 months for custom roms and in the time it takes OnePlus to release its code and for development to pick up, a lot of new devices came or will come to market (Moto X, Nexus etc..). the reason the OPO was so great is that it had good hardware and development was strong so it gave you options. the OPT also has great hardware but a lot of people myself included find Oxygen OS to be sub par and without any other option (i don't consider flashing a different rom and losing critical features a viable option), the phone becomes a lot less attractive.
considering the fact that OnePlus said that M will be coming in Q1 (i think that we can safetly assume end of march), waiting another 4 months seems a bit too much.
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i do agree with you both to some extent BUT i do think that OnePlus really dropped the ball. people don't want to wait 6-8 months for custom roms and in the time it takes OnePlus to release its code and for development to pick up, a lot of new devices came or will come to market (Moto X, Nexus etc..). the reason the OPO was so great is that it had good hardware and development was strong so it gave you options. the OPT also has great hardware but a lot of people myself included find Oxygen OS to be sub par and without any other option (i don't consider flashing a different rom and losing critical features a viable option), the phone becomes a lot less attractive.
considering the fact that OnePlus said that M will be coming in Q1 (i think that we can safetly assume end of march), waiting another 4 months seems a bit too much.
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Soon.. MM is coming from CM 13.. A official build is coming.. CM team is working on it..
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Soon.. MM is coming from CM 13.. A official build is coming.. CM team is working on it..
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i hope that you are right, i HATE Oxygen OS.
You're a power user. Can the Xiaomi Mi 5 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Xiaomi Mi 5. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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without the sources the development of this device is very small.
xiaomi are shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing !!
Hey don't forget they allow you to unlock bootloader and this is big plus for them not always the can release source, and they did that in 2015 http://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-finally-releases-kernel-sources/ but anyway right now i`m on cm-13.0-20160713-UNOFFICIAL-gemini.zip and its very good BTW. daily driver.
The fact that Xiaomi doesn't release the complete sources makes it much harder to have a great number of devs building ROMs, Kernels, and other stuff. This device is great, has great potential and has also great potential to have a great community of developers behind it. Related to MIUI interface, the Xiaomi.eu community is great, by providing weekly and stable builds, bloatware-free, translated and optimized mainly for europeans. CyanogenMod, AOSP based ROMs will suffer and being updated slowly until the complete sources aren't released. That has mainly to do with Xiaomi. If the release happens, the dev community will approve and begin to build more stuff to this device.
My note: 3 stars.
The complete sources is not released yet for mi5?
kenth_kristoffer said:
The complete sources is not released yet for mi5?
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AFAIK not yet. So are the devs behind LOS still waiting for the blobs to make the SIM on/off switch work.
On los 06.02.2017
Everything is fine
The developement is moderate but thats not because the device is not popular, there are still some missing codes from xiaomi. We are just 1 week away from getting the new Mi6 so hopefully this will speed up the release of the full source code.
I really like the things that are already up:good: especialy the LOS
Friends, I am thinking about getting this device. Would it be wise to purchase this in 2018? Or would you suggest something else. I really like the form factor, the device being handy.
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Friends, I am thinking about getting this device. Would it be wise to purchase this in 2018? Or would you suggest something else. I really like the form factor, the device being handy.
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yep bro me too but its not there in india now , will have to import it somehow :?
Manc1234 said:
yep bro me too but its not there in india now , will have to import it somehow :?
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you could check if there is someone willing to sell a decent used device. You will also get it very cheaply given that resale value for xiaomi phones drops drastically.
So I was thinking about buying this phone but since dev support isn't that high I was wondering how long does xiaomi support their phones and how often, in case no custom roms are being made?
I have heard mixed statements.
Thx in advance.
Actually, xiaomi support for mi note 3 is very poor
its about time, it will get better
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its about time, it will get better
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I don't completely follow.
It's very bad I should say. There's no global dev rom and stable one is stuck with 9.1. Chinese one got 9.5.
You people really know how to kill my mood but thanks for the input.
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they usually support their phones for many years, so we should be fine, and Oreo will be out this week
also Open Source support should be good also
Check the age of these suspended devices to get an idea.
Mi 2 was released in August 2012.
It was over 5 years old when suspended last fall, I believe the oldest.
Update Schedule Adjustment of MIUI 9 China Developer ROM
Nov-10-2017
http://en.miui.com/thread-1056304-1-1.html
. . . to ensure the best performance of MIUI, we have to make a tough decision of suspending the update of 10 devices after a long-time discussion and evaluation about the release time of devices, active users, hardware performance, etc.
MIUI 9 China Developer ROM (closed beta and public beta)
Starting from November 16th, 2017, update for MIUI 9 China Developer ROM of the following ten devices, namely Mi 2, Mi 3, Mi Note, Mi Note Pro, Mi Pad, Redmi 1, Redmi 1S, Redmi 2, Redmi 2A, Redmi Note 1, will be suspended, both closed beta and public beta.
MIUI 9 China Stable ROM
We will provide MIUI 9 China Stable ROM for users of above devices (Redmi 1 excluded) . MIUI Stable ROM 9.1 and MIUI Stable ROM 9.2 will be released in the future to help users enjoy the lightning last MIUI 9. The flashing method will be provided later. Please stay tuned to the forum. Thanks for your patience and understanding.
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Its a complete mess.... this last 9.3 Xiaomi.eu for instance, is bugs plus bugs...like each rom is worse than the before
Seriously thinking sell this phone and return to my old 4 years Oppo Find 7. Even in camera is almost the same....
Mord0rr said:
Its a complete mess.... this last 9.3 Xiaomi.eu for instance, is bugs plus bugs...like each rom is worse than the before
Seriously thinking sell this phone and return to my old 4 years Oppo Find 7. Even in camera is almost the same....
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I'm running Xiaomi.eu weekly 8.2.1 on all my 3 Xiaomi phones, and they all run very well.
You have to pick and choose, and wait for it . . . about once a month a good weekly appears I think.
The stables do not seem to be very good in general.
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they usually support their phones for many years, so we should be fine, and Oreo will be out this week
also Open Source support should be good also
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Where did you get this info?
Also as far as I can see there won't be much support.
I miss my LG G2. It still gets official LOS and more.
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Where did you get this info?
Also as far as I can see there won't be much support.
I miss my LG G2. It still gets official LOS and more.
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Where ?, just check every Mi device on xda much love & support
and as for Miui, they keep updating their Ui for older devices, but they dont update the base tho, so our phone might only get O, then future updates will be newer Miui's only, that what i got from following Miui devs around
Yep...i use Stable, and except notifications and the stupid notifications theme error, everything runs smmotly...
I should go to OP5T...at least they have lot of roms to play.....
P.S. - Do not update yours!
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Where ?, just check every Mi device on xda much love & support
and as for Miui, they keep updating their Ui for older devices, but they dont update the base tho, so our phone might only get O, then future updates will be newer Miui's only, that what i got from following Miui devs around
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I'm pretty sure that they regret releasing the global rom in the first place.
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I'm pretty sure that they regret releasing the global rom in the first place.
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Right, releasing a global ROM before the device is officially sold globally is indeed a mistake. Now they can only be silent on those crying global ROM update requests in the forum to keep the engineers healthy mentally.
leledumbo said:
Right, releasing a global ROM before the device is officially sold globally is indeed a mistake. Now they can only be silent on those crying global ROM update requests in the forum to keep the engineers healthy mentally.
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It's too bad this won't be heard by others.
I just update last night to 9.5.3.0 Nchcnfa China Stable, from Xiaomi.eu....
Im not in hurry to fly to Oreo or something more recent...
My experience last years, show me that sometimes old stuff is better, and newr not necessarly better.....
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I just update last night to 9.5.3.0 Nchcnfa China Stable, from Xiaomi.eu....
Im not in hurry to fly to Oreo or something more recent...
My experience last years, show me that sometimes old stuff is better, and newr not necessarly better.....
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This. I'm kinda upset to see those crying for Oreo, while in devices who already got it, there are those crying because it's so buggy. They want the most impossible combination that money can't buy no matter how much: fast and stable release.
yep.
Just want ringtones ad notifications work, and i will stop updates, unless a nice AOSP rom appears with google camera and MIU to jump....
I am running xiaomi.eu 9.5 and i am very happy!
Dear Miui,
I am writing to you this letter and I do hope someone takes a serious action towards this matter, I truly love the Pocophone F1 and its high end specifications with a very low price, however I and many users are facing a serious problem of screen freezes and ghost touches which to be honest makes the device almost unusable, this is a serious obstacle that Xiaomi isn't paying attention to, moreover Pocophone F1 is a device that supports custom development however we are not seeing much in the custom development industry due to the lack of sources we have from Xiaomi, please treat this matter with high priority and urgency to fix it, am a fan of Xiaomi products since day one and so many others, but if this problem persists am afraid many users will go a head and be a customer of other manufacturers, which I and many more wouldn't be pleased to occur, as its worth mentioning again this is solely a problem that pertains to Fts_ts panels and unfortunately the latest vendor/firmware didn't solve the problem just yet, as I do also insist on the fact that Xiaomi supports custom development to Pocophone F1 however this is no where to be noticeable in the open source community.
Yours sincerely,
Moe
nothing going to happen. Issue has been there since release, and if they couldnt fix it within 3 months of release they wont fix it now. Plus, pretty sure Poco F1 production must be coming to an end and they will just sell out the already produced units since K20 Pro is coming soon.
if you device has the issue, and you can return it then go for it...else, these petitions and posting on xda wont do anything.
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nothing going to happen. Issue has been there since release, and if they couldnt fix it within 3 months of release they wont fix it now. Plus, pretty sure Poco F1 production must be coming to an end and they will just sell out the already produced units since K20 Pro is coming soon.
if you device has the issue, and you can return it then go for it...else, these petitions and posting on xda wont do anything.
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Thank you for your feedback dear, moreover I do have the fix by using global miui kernel 9.6.13 in parallel with vendor/firmware 9.6.18, but this obligates the user to only use miui kernel, and as Xiaomi claims that it supports Android Customization we are not really seeing that just yet due to the kernels, mind you that the commits and blops of the new vendor/firmware versions haven't been disclosed just yet which is again unjustified by Xiaomi.
as the title says i wonder why there is so "little" development for the i9lite going on
i thought a device with this great specs for such a little price would be very interesting, but when you look at similar devices as the 9t or 9t pro there is a lot more of development
don't get me wrong i really thank all the devs that work on the i9lite right now, but i am a little bit worried as the a2 lite i have right now is also a great device but without much development there are only a few custom roms and and a hardly working twrp for it
my i 9lite is actually on the way to me, but right now i am really afraid that i will get in the same problem as with the a2 lite that there is absolutely no interest for the devs to work for this device.
Maybe the 9t(pro) would have been the better decision regarding this, but i really do not like the front cam of the T devices
I wish i could do a little developing for custom roms myself but i do not have the skills :crying: -
what do you guys think about it or you you have no concerns in this direction and you are really happy with the i9lite an how things are at the moment ?
I'm the same as you, waiting for mine to arrive.
Moving from Moto g5 plus it looks pretty quiet here.
I hope we can get a decent gcam at least
I don't know about other countries but in France the Mi 9 Lite just started becoming available through carriers. It might be that there are just less people equipped with that phone for now. I will also get a Mi 9 lite, there is already Lineage and GSI, so the roms I'm most interested in are there already.
Just reading from telegram group. One developer (coderzs)is ready to make base tree(I'm not sure of the term),also a recognized developer of mia2 lineage and other custom rom fo a2. But they trying to raise fund to get the device. I think it's just a matter of time and we can see a lot custom here in xda. Just follow the telegram group,search for mi9t lite/Cc9 global.
For there to be active development and/or many developers, the device must be widely available and relatively popular. You can't expect all those things to be a fact barely few months after device release. Seeing as it has great specs and is reasonably priced, it's just a matter of time until the device becomes interesting to developers.
Also, a word of advice - nobody likes doing stuff for free for a pushy user base.
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Also, a word of advice - nobody likes doing stuff for free for a pushy user base.
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that is absolutly clear, also i really apriciate all the work that the devs do in their freetime and for free, my opening post is absolutly not meant in this direction.
i am grateful that there is this great modding community that gives us a lot of opportunities that the manufacturers themselves do not even they get paid for it.
i am only worried as custom roms is the only way to have a long life for the smartphone as you still get new android versions when the manufacturer is only releasing security updates or nothing at all at a certain point.
so i hope you are right and that its only a matter of time
@Kadyo
a that sounds interesting i hope i can find this group as i am not so familiar with this telegram, i would also like to spend a certain amount to get the i9lite for the dev (maybe you can pm me the group if its not against xda's rules)
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that is absolutly clear, also i really apriciate all the work that the devs do in their freetime and for free, my opening post is absolutly not meant in this direction.
i am grateful that there is this great modding community that gives us a lot of opportunities that the manufacturers themselves do not even they get paid for it.
i am only worried as custom roms is the only way to have a long life for the smartphone as you still get new android versions when the manufacturer is only releasing security updates or nothing at all at a certain point.
so i hope you are right and that its only a matter of time
@Kadyo
a that sounds interesting i hope i can find this group as i am not so familiar with this telegram, i would also like to spend a certain amount to get the i9lite for the dev (maybe you can pm me the group if its not against xda's rules)
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MOD EDIT: Telegram link removed, read the STICKY!
A huge factor in ROM development is the geographic area in which the device is popular. Most developers for Xiaomi phones are from India which is an incredibly competitive market where, frankly, this phone makes little sense: the Mi 9T with basically the same specs is only marginally more expensive, and the latest Redmi is waaaaaaay cheaper. Now, in Europe the Mi 9 Lite makes more sense for the price bracket it's in, but for some reason the developer scene in European countries is lackluster at best. Fortunately, Russia is another country famously active for Android developing and, apparently, this phone is doing fairly well there.
As someone mentioned early, we're currently trying to buy and send a Mi 9 Lite to a ROM developer, so depending on how this ends we may be able to get this forum moving a bit
In the meantime, my standard response is the usual: if you really can't stand MIUI, give GSIs a shot! They're far better than I thought!
iuliusdeblobbis said:
Most developers for Xiaomi phones are from India which is an incredibly competitive market where, frankly, this phone makes little sense: the Mi 9T with basically the same specs is only marginally more expensive, and the latest Redmi is waaaaaaay cheaper. Now, in Europe the Mi 9 Lite makes more sense for the price bracket it's in
As someone mentioned early, we're currently trying to buy and send a Mi 9 Lite to a ROM developer, so depending on how this ends we may be able to get this forum moving a bit
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It's not yet released in India, is it? That might also be a reason for why there's not a lot going on yet. I do think it is weirdly priced in Europe as well. It's a bit disheartening to see there's not a lot going on (yet, hopefully!) in terms of custom ROMs, but I've never used a custom ROM before on either of my phone and I don't intend to play around with ROMs anyway.
But nice to hear you guys try to get a phone to a ROM developer!
thanks for all your suggestions and opinions so far, will try to get onto telegram this weekend and see how this works.
I've Purchased Mi9Lite About 2 Month Ago(Iran- From Abu Dubai) , Device is Great For Price (350-400$ In My Country! ) in Compare to other devices like RN8P
But development???
There's Even No Ported Gcam For Mi9Lite and Stock Camera Quality is awful
Custom Roms? Hmmn I'd rather to use more stable versions
But there's still a hope, In Russian Forums (4pda) some devs r developing kangaroo kernel for this device
MIUI Rom Are So Smooth but have little bugs and they're annoying like app freezing while using VPN!
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There's Even No Ported Gcam For Mi9Lite and Stock Camera Quality is awful
Custom Roms? Hmmn I'd rather to use more stable versions
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-cc9/development
we have the basics, which is TWRP and a way to flash GSIs, there's not really any need for anything else tbh, the days of specific devices development are behind
I bought mi 9 lite for 217$ month ago. This is the best choice of Mi9/Mi9T because of its price and card slot.
This smartfon had working LOS 2 months after world release! Now LOS is ebought mature for use it as daily driver. With ported gcam is absolutely amasing. My old xperia z3c waited years for first LOS, and up to 5 years for OFFICIAL version of LOS.
If Mi9 will sell itself very good, we will see many other custom roms.
I will stay with LOS, because is the best for me.
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we have the basics, which is TWRP and a way to flash GSIs, there's not really any need for anything else tbh, the days of specific devices development are behind
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Even with GSI, I could not make the camera work satisfactorily and rom to pass the safetynet, and the statusbar does not display the icons properly ...
I have the mi a3 and I'm looking at the 9 lite for the bigger and more high res screen. But yeah there's definitely more development for the a3 though it was officially launched in September vs July (according to gsmarena). I do hope we get more devs for this phone, because it seems like a good one. I'm already stretching my budget with the 9 lite. I don't want to stretch more with the 9t
It's just not that popular as other devices are right now..
I just purchased it though, looking nice, when I get it first thing I'll do will be unlocking BL.
I think this phone has not released yet (or released very recently) in India, this will boost activity a lot.
Just kinda surprised custom recovery is not at the official twrp site yet.
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It's not yet released in India, is it? That might also be a reason for why there's not a lot going on yet. I do think it is weirdly priced in Europe as well. It's a bit disheartening to see there's not a lot going on (yet, hopefully!) in terms of custom ROMs, but I've never used a custom ROM before on either of my phone and I don't intend to play around with ROMs anyway.
But nice to hear you guys try to get a phone to a ROM developer!
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Mi Cc9 was released in India 9 months ago or so. The Mi9 Lite is a rebranded CC9. The specs are all the same afaik.
I made a mistake. See the next reply.