I used default stock ROM (6.0.1), RR (7.1.1), CM 12.1 (5.1.1) with squid kernel but still my battery don't get even 3 hrs SOT with greenify also. I mostly use it for facebook and whatsapp only. I cant afford a new phone due to this. Plz help me. TIA.
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I used default stock ROM (6.0.1), RR (7.1.1), CM 12.1 (5.1.1) with squid kernel but still my battery don't get even 3 hrs SOT with greenify also. I mostly use it for facebook and whatsapp only. I cant afford a new phone due to this. Plz help me. TIA.
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No rom will give you that much of a increase, stock is the best battery in general but there is no way any tweaking will increase that significantly.
Sounds like you need to replace the battery...
uninsall the fb app.........use fb on chrome............fb is the mother of all battery sucker apps
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uninsall the fb app.........use fb on chrome............fb is the mother of all battery sucker apps
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Facebook Lite, way better than on mobile browser.
acejavelin said:
Facebook Lite, way better than on mobile browser.
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Completely wrong
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Completely wrong
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That maybe your opinion, but I disagree... Facebook Lite with it's built in Messenger is essentially a specially written browser, uses far less memory than Chrome, removes ads from videos (in general there are less ads throughout) plus you can still get push notifications. I have been using it for months.
If I am "completely wrong" give me some proof. In fact, although the regular Facebook is not the best, it is hardly "mother of all battery sucker apps". It is a space and data hog, but it doesn't use battery any more than REAL hogs like Snapchat, Netflix, Amazon Shopping, SoundCloud, or Outlook, in fact if you do some testing it has less effect on battery than you likely think (granted 2-3 years ago this was different, FB used to be one of the worst offenders).
Regardless, the OP was looking for an app to increase SOT... unless you can lower the battery usage of the display, you are not going to see increases in the magnitude the OP is looking for, from 3 hours to 5 hours, or a 66% increase in SOT. No app change or ROM is going to make a change even close to that.
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Comments like that are hardly useful (or credible).
If you feel the need to make comments, please make them constructive and with some substance.
http://www.huffingtonpost.in/entry/facebook-iphone-battery-life_us_56b8b6c5e4b08069c7a7fc54
(It could boost your Android’s battery by as much as 20 percent,)
https://www.androidcentral.com/it-turns-out-uninstalling-facebook-android-pretty-great
(android central)
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...alling-facebook-app-saves-iphone-battery-life
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...eeds_up_your_android/?st=j5c24vbs&sh=4c9b128f
there are too many on the web........
I agree with @ace Sir Facebook lite is good option .... Now u also have an option of Messanger lite
And also Battery Usage/SOT completely depends on ur usage OP .:angel:
SanRak said:
I used default stock ROM (6.0.1), RR (7.1.1), CM 12.1 (5.1.1) with squid kernel but still my battery don't get even 3 hrs SOT with greenify also. I mostly use it for facebook and whatsapp only. I cant afford a new phone due to this. Plz help me. TIA.
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3 hours SOT with greenify is a little off. you need to watch for wakelocks. better battery stats or wakelock detector can be useful to you. and also, if you have greenified the apps that you use the most, it will reopen those apps everytime you open the app, that could do more harm than good. you can try shallow hibernation, or just install naptime and tweak the doze parameters using GeraldRudi's method and quit greenify for some days just to see if this improves.
Then again, your battery could be the culprit, that's always a possibility
about ROM's, every ROM has it's merits, but Motorola really knows how to optimize their ROM, so for now, I think stock ROM gives the best battery life, even if that is marginally better than custom ROMs.
Kernels: Stock moto kernel is very efficient, but you might get a little bit more battery life with squid kernel, it has a great governor that relies on voting mechanism, plus it's just perfectly undervolted to get you some extra battery. probably a 15-20% difference than the stock one.
1) Use AOSP-CAF based ROM like Tesla.
2) Flash squid or Firekernel
3) Reduce the Max Freq to 1152Mhz and Min to 200Mhz
4) Use IntelliPlug Hotplug (Turn off Touch Boost and set Screen off frequency to 400Mhz)
5) Install Force Doze app and add Facebook, WhatsApp and other Battery consuming app to blacklist (Remember you will not get notifications from those app if screen is off).
6) Don't charge too quickly, always charge to 100% and plug when it discharged to below 10% (Recommended to charge at night).
It will improve your overall battery backup and somehow SOT.
At last i am totally agree with @acejavelin Facebook Lite app is made for low memory devices so it consume less memory and also less Battery. Also it's fast and have almost every features.
The real problem here is the device is going on 2, maybe 3 years old... the battery is at it's limit and will need to be changed to get really good SOTs.
My Moto G 2015 used to get 5+ hours SOT easy... not it's barely 3.5... and this is a backup device, it has NOTHING installed in it at all but it was used regularly for 18 months. The battery is just not what it used to be and if I am going to continue to use it as a alternate device I will need to replace the battery. Like it or not, these devices were not designed for more than 2 years of service.
nikhilpal2705 said:
1) Use AOSP-CAF based ROM like Tesla.
2) Flash squid or Firekernel
3) Reduce the Max Freq to 1152Mhz and Min to 200Mhz
4) Use IntelliPlug Hotplug (Turn off Touch Boost and set Screen off frequency to 400Mhz)
5) Install Force Doze app and add Facebook, WhatsApp and other Battery consuming app to blacklist (Remember you will not get notifications from those app if screen is off).
6) Don't charge too quickly, always charge to 100% and plug when it discharged to below 10% (Recommended to charge at night).
It will improve your overall battery backup and somehow SOT.
At last i am totally agree with @acejavelin Facebook Lite app is made for low memory devices so it consume less memory and also less Battery. Also it's fast and have almost every features.
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downclocking the cpu is kind of redundant and saves less power than what it takes. the reason why for some users min-max is a battery saving governor. Besides, the performence hit is greater than the battery gained which is not at all more than 2% probably.
you should not fully charge your battery. you can, but the best practice is to charge upto 80%. And anything bellow 25% is not good.
the issue is either wakelock or dying battery, no tweak is going to save him if the underlying issue is not fixed, moreover, doze is the most sophisticated solution to save battery till now, downclocking, hotplugs these are pointless unless one's usage is known to us. I'd suggest to have doze editor if you must have a doze interface.
You can use aosp caf osprey by Ahmed hady...it will give 6 hrs plus sot from moderate to normal use..
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Hi there!
I'm using the Thiaiz ROM on my o3d with the v6 supercharger script enabled.
Still my battery life is just as bad as it was before i was using any sort of rom or root?
Any ideas why this is and/or how to improve this fact?
Many thanks in advance!
i tried custom roms,but finally i return 10b stock ROM,after root and i remove unused system apps with systemapp remover 4.22 (before backup),use taskkiller 2.0.4,i think best stable version 10b stock ROM,sorry for my bad English
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is your data always on?
do you have screen on all the time?
Did you callibrate your battery?
Did you flash the rom at 100% battery?
For me, I'm using a modified version of Thiaiz's rom. I got both his scripts running and the v6 supercharger script. Data is always on and when that's not on, Wifi will always be on. So basically I am always in someways connected to internet. Running a live wallpaper. Got a couple of services doing stuff in the background... with my amount of use I get an average of 9 hours maxed. My amount of use is pretty much google voice, calling, random game here and there, and picture taking. Screen is off most of the time.
What I do for battery life, well first I'm using Go Launcher Ex. Surprisingly, choice in launcher does affect battery life in some ways. SetCPU, main Profile is at Performance governor. This isn't good for battery, but I want it to run at max while screen is on. I did set profiles for it to go down to 600 max, 300 min for when screen is off. Hmm, a few tweaks here and there that I can't recall.
No apps related to anything like Juice Defender.
Absolutely NOTHING that even appears to be a task killer.
Personally, I carry a few portable chargers with me everywhere I go so battery life doesn't matter to me. Which is why I can afford to use live wallpapers and etc.
DevJackey said:
is your data always on?
do you have screen on all the time?
Did you callibrate your battery?
Did you flash the rom at 100% battery?
For me, I'm using a modified version of Thiaiz's rom. I got both his scripts running and the v6 supercharger script. Data is always on and when that's not on, Wifi will always be on. So basically I am always in someways connected to internet. Running a live wallpaper. Got a couple of services doing stuff in the background... with my amount of use I get an average of 9 hours maxed. My amount of use is pretty much google voice, calling, random game here and there, and picture taking. Screen is off most of the time.
What I do for battery life, well first I'm using Go Launcher Ex. Surprisingly, choice in launcher does affect battery life in some ways. SetCPU, main Profile is at Performance governor. This isn't good for battery, but I want it to run at max while screen is on. I did set profiles for it to go down to 600 max, 300 min for when screen is off. Hmm, a few tweaks here and there that I can't recall.
No apps related to anything like Juice Defender.
Absolutely NOTHING that even appears to be a task killer.
Personally, I carry a few portable chargers with me everywhere I go so battery life doesn't matter to me. Which is why I can afford to use live wallpapers and etc.
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I am on V10K now and the Data always on or wifi if am at home and got a
couple of services doing stuff in the background like my emails and Facebook
with my amount of use I get an average of 14 hours maxed .
1: if u where using Go Launcher u most use home manger app it let u kill lg
stock launcher that u don't use it .
2: startup cleaner app from the market.
3: fast reboot app from the market.
Today I received my new 1800 mAh battery from e-bay I will try it then I let u
Know is it worth it or not .
Sorry for my bad English it's not my native language .
MAX6500 said:
I am on V10K now and the Data always on or wifi if am at home and got a
couple of services doing stuff in the background like my emails and Facebook
with my amount of use I get an average of 14 hours maxed .
1: if u where using Go Launcher u most use home manger app it let u kill lg
stock launcher that u don't use it .
2: startup cleaner app from the market.
3: fast reboot app from the market.
Today I received my new 1800 mAh battery from e-bay I will try it then I let u
Know is it worth it or not .
Sorry for my bad English it's not my native language .
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Actually, I don't really recommend the Fast Reboot app.
I tried it out before and its basically just a Kill All Task Killer. After you use it, you get more space and speed for about a couple of minutes before all the apps you've killed with Fast Reboot restarts back.
That's bad for battery life because having the apps in memory doesn't affect your battery life the way apps starting up and restarting does. If you use fast reboot too much, your battery life will go down FAST. Might as well just reboot phone normally
I've just bought a spare battery so i can set my cpu at 800 min and 1008 max with the SetCPU app. When screen is off i still set it all to the minimum though.
Seems like battery just will not be a selling point for the o3d so buying an extra battery or anything like that will be the best option!
Hello. So I am currently running an OPO on 5.1.1 with AK kernel and I get a solid 5:30 SoT with lots of restrictions (CPU frequency). My device is rooted with TWRP installed. I ask, is it worth reverting back to CM11 on 4.4.4? I'm looking for features and battery life mainly. I might change themes and kernels. But only on CyanogenMod ROM. If CM11s is the way to go, may a good kernel be recommended to go with it? Thanks for the help.
Well at this point 11S is pretty outdated, with CM13 already being out. CMOS12 is pretty good but getting a different CM12 or CM13 based ROM is best way to go in my eyes. I have tried going back to KK just to see what it is like and I couldn't use it because I had gotten used to how Lollipop and Marshmallow are. Also I don't think the increase in battery life is worth the loss of features with CM11S.
You should stay on cm12.1 and play with your kernel setting little bit!
I'd say give MahdiROM 2.9 a shot. It's CM11 and gives me great battery life, as well as being packed full of features. Even ran tests with play services forcing my phone to stay awake 100% of the time and can still push 5-7 hours SoT depending on usage. 7+ with that fixed up. ZaneZam's boeffla kernel builds for it work extremely well and I can honestly say I prefer it for CM11 even though I'm an avid AK user.
What about Boeffla Kernel? Is it better than AK?
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There is no better or best kernel. There is just a kernel that fits your preferences.
I can only say that at least with my personal usage, the battery life did not change a bit going from kitkat, over lollipop, to marshmallow.
6h SOT is the bare minimum I get on regular usage no matter what. I've seen 8h SOT on K, L and M.
Always CM11/12/12.1/13 with stock kernel and stock settings, no undervolting, underclocking, Greenify or other bull**** apps. Also I don't use apps which are known for drain like facebook.
Seeing threads like this, I often think that users drain the most battery by constantly looking for tweaks and updates to reduce battery consumption.
Alibi screenshots from an early unofficial cm13 build:
There is almost no drain over night, same on data only.
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I can only say that at least with my personal usage, the battery life did not change a bit going from kitkat, over lollipop, to marshmallow.
6h SOT is the bare minimum I get on regular usage no matter what. I've seen 8h SOT on K, L and M.
Always CM11/12/12.1/13 with stock kernel and stock settings, no undervolting, underclocking, Greenify or other bull**** apps. Also I don't use apps which are known for drain like facebook.
Seeing threads like this, I often think that users drain the most battery by constantly looking for tweaks and updates to reduce battery consumption.
Alibi screenshots from an early unofficial cm13 build:
There is almost no drain over night, same on data only.
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Maybe your device got powerful battery and your app list isn't huge, otherwise most people struggle to get 6 hr sot on L & M. ?
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Maybe your device got powerful battery and your app list isn't huge, otherwise most people struggle to get 6 hr sot on L & M. ��
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Apps I use daily:
Pocket Casts
Naked Browser + Chrome (Internet)
Google+
Relay for Reddit
Press RSS Reader
Mi Manga Nu
WhatsApp
MX Player
YouTube
Phonograph (Music Player)
Oppo Camera
QuickPic
Titanium Backup Pro shows me 121 installed user apps.
No crap though
Google Sync is active all the time.
This thread is intended to have power users post their best configurations so as to guide the rookies in optimizing their MXPs once they get unlocked and rooted. It's also intended to compare the best setups for battery, performance, gaming, multitasking, etc.
My main interest is in battery life, although lately I've been on the XDA Labs app like crazy and it's hurting my drain.
Constructive criticism welcome on how to improve the below records!
ROM: Stock MM Canadian
Kernel: Ultra Kernel R3
Governor: Smartmax
Frequencies: 200 big, 800 little
Xposed Framework modules: Force Fast Scroll, Lucky Patcher, GravityBox (duh!), Use USB For Marshmallow, Xposed GEL Settings
Best SOT: 8 hours
Best Drain (100% to 0%): 120 hours
Other miscellaneous tweaks: Shake Flashlight as a system app instead of double-chop (works great, just don't let go)
Launcher: Still figuring that out...but Nova and DarkLauncher are worthy contenders right at the moment
Voice Assist/Google Now on long-press Home: Disabled thanks to @pijes. Settings > Apps > Gear icon > Default Apps > Voice and Assist > None
Post below, power users! What's your best setup so far?
Bro, I would like you use Greenify and DS Battery saver
As you have xposed framework installed you can use boost mode in greenify and also
DS Battery saver also has a module so activate them and then choose slumberer and phew see your battery stats
Coming to launcher, right now Arrow launcher is good and smooth and I prefer that
Thank you!
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Bro, I would like you use Greenify and DS Battery saver
As you have xposed framework installed you can use boost mode in greenify and also
DS Battery saver also has a module so activate them and then choose slumberer and phew see your battery stats
Coming to launcher, right now Arrow launcher is good and smooth and I prefer that
Thank you!
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Cool man thanks. I'll try the Greenify and DS you recommend. I've seen Greenify a lot around XDA. I'm excited to try it.
Tesla rom(seems faster/smoother then stock/anyother rom) plus Squid kernel. Governor is set to Lionfish and I/O scheduler is set to Row with 512kb readahead. Minimum frequency for the Big cluster is 800mhz and 499mhz for the little cluster. NFC and location disabled. Best battery life I ever got was with stock with the same kernel/settings configuration, had 9 hrs SOT and nearly 24 hrs overall.
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Tesla rom(seems faster/smoother then stock/anyother rom) plus Squid kernel. Governor is set to Lionfish and I/O scheduler is set to Row with 512kb readahead. Minimum frequency for the Big cluster is 800mhz and 499mhz for the little cluster. NFC and location disabled. Best battery life I ever got was with stock with the same kernel/settings configuration, had 9 hrs SOT and nearly 24 hrs overall.
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What do you mean nearly 24 hours overall - how long before you had to recharge?
I need to learn more about I/O scheduling. I've changed to Row and 512 as you recommend but where will I see the difference? When I connect to my PC? When apps access internal storage?
I've changed my governor back to lionfish. Smartmax wasn't doing it for me. 200 big 800 little. I'll look into that Tesla ROM too.
I was hoping this thread was gonna be more popular. I hope some people have gotten use out of it so far! Grow little thread, grow!
It would be awesome to see more growth in this thread! It would enable prospective buyers to talk to current owners, and figure out what they might want before they sink money into the device!
*cough*cough*
Which is exactly what I was hoping to do! Does anyone know if sweep to wake/sleep is possible with the Moto X Play? It's honestly one of the most useful features I've ever seen from rooting et al.
I'll post my setup. Been using it this way for like 2 weeks so I feel it's stable.
I'm currently running this:
Unlocked BL obviously
Stock Canada firmware (MPD24.65-18)
Rooted
Xposed Framework installed
Squid Kernel r14b
I have gravity box installed and that's really it as far as tweaks and stuff.
Averaging 5 or 6 hours SOT down to about 25% or 30%. Really depends on what I do and what network I use. Performance is great too.
I'm gonna mess around with some of this stuff tonight and see what I can do with it.
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I'm trying the interactive governor in Squids kernel, some of the stuttering issues have disappeared. Like when I clear all recents in the task switcher screen or scrolling big web pages.
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Marshmalux. Rooted. Xposed. Greenify. Powernap. Amplify.
Getting sot around 5.5 hours for my usage. Happy with that squid kernel latest r15. Lionfish on both cores
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It would be awesome to see more growth in this thread! It would enable prospective buyers to talk to current owners, and figure out what they might want before they sink money into the device!
*cough*cough*
Which is exactly what I was hoping to do! Does anyone know if sweep to wake/sleep is possible with the Moto X Play? It's honestly one of the most useful features I've ever seen from rooting et al.
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Hey hey. Thanks for posting!
I'm sure sweep to wake is possible on the phone in some way, likely through a combination of rooting and Xposed modules. I know that GravityBox has a double tap on status bar to sleep feature.
One of the nicest features of the X Play is the Moto Display. It's nice to have the phone screen come.on showing notifications without fully waking the phone. Check out the Moto Display app on the Play Store. It's a totally sexy feature.
I'd say this phone is absolutely worth it for the battery alone. I personally feel the camera to be laggy especially with focus, so consider that if you're a shutterbug. I am very hopeful that software updates will being out the power of the camera but it doesn't have optical image stabilization so blir happens more frequently, at least for me. That could be my shake fingers though.
Feel free to ask any further questions!
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I'm trying the interactive governor in Squids kernel, some of the stuttering issues have disappeared. Like when I clear all recents in the task switcher screen or scrolling big web pages.
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Good stuff. Interactive does appear to handle web pages better. I did a Wikipedia search for The Simpsons and got a huge page. I flicked down to scroll it all at once and then Chrome froze. Hahahaba. Same with Lionfish though. Maybe I'm getting greedy thinking this phone is as powerful as my PC.
Lionfish was giving me great SOT results. Like I mentored in the OP: 8 HOURS! Was so happy to see that. Blew the socks off my Nrxus 4. I average between 6.5 and 8 usually, but WhatsApp and XDA Labs are hurting those scores now.
I haven't had to Greenify any apps yet - I only hsvr geeky ones installed anyway so they never keep the phone awake.
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Marshmalux. Rooted. Xposed. Greenify. Powernap. Amplify.
Getting sot around 5.5 hours for my usage. Happy with that squid kernel latest r15. Lionfish on both cores
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I think @squid2 deserves a lot of credit for extending the X Play even further. His kernel and work on TWRP make the X Play even more attractive than it is out of the box.
I prefer Ultra kernel personally because I believe the dev for that (@technoander) takes the latest releases of squid's and adds features to them. I may be mistaken but that's my impression. I'll try to clarify and report back. I should do a direct comparison of Ultra and squid's latest to be as objective as is possible with a subjective test. Hahaha.
I guess I should specify a bit further - sweep/tap2wake is really only effectively useful when the phone supports some kind of low-power state for the touchscreen, otherwise the screen has to remain on in order to use it.
I'm sure sweep2sleep would be possible, but if there's no low-power state for the screen, it wouldn't really matter for me in the end. Moto display sounds like exactly what I'm talking about, though I don't know if it includes any low power mode for the touch features, as well as the display.
I'm gonna look into this a bit more, and see if I can dig up any info. It would be a hardware feature, designed-in, so it definitely should be discoverable. I figure if I can find out all the information for one of the people who have written kernels for the phone, they shouldn't have a problem emulating the feature. It's popular enough, and with the low-power state, shouldn't be too complex to implement.
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I guess I should specify a bit further - sweep/tap2wake is really only effectively useful when the phone supports some kind of low-power state for the touchscreen, otherwise the screen has to remain on in order to use it.
I'm sure sweep2sleep would be possible, but if there's no low-power state for the screen, it wouldn't really matter for me in the end. Moto display sounds like exactly what I'm talking about, though I don't know if it includes any low power mode for the touch features, as well as the display.
I'm gonna look into this a bit more, and see if I can dig up any info. It would be a hardware feature, designed-in, so it definitely should be discoverable. I figure if I can find out all the information for one of the people who have written kernels for the phone, they shouldn't have a problem emulating the feature. It's popular enough, and with the low-power state, shouldn't be too complex to implement.
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Cool - definitely report back - it would be nice to know if this is embedded in the hardware somewhere. I hope it is, unlike optical.image stabilization. Damn!
XxMikeMasterxX said:
What do you mean nearly 24 hours overall - how long before you had to recharge?
I need to learn more about I/O scheduling. I've changed to Row and 512 as you recommend but where will I see the difference? When I connect to my PC? When apps access internal storage?
I've changed my governor back to lionfish. Smartmax wasn't doing it for me. 200 big 800 little. I'll look into that Tesla ROM too.
I was hoping this thread was gonna be more popular. I hope some people have gotten use out of it so far! Grow little thread, grow!
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Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
Hey developer,the banking apps I have does run after flashing a custom rom.Is there any workaround for this?.have to reflash stock after trying any custom rom.Its a pain in the as*.
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Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
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Row is essentially the best scheduler. Benchmarking is weird, because by design it's an optimized test case and not a use case. Use cases will always be variable, but generally with a smartphone writes aren't too latency-sensitive. That's why Read Over Write generally works the best once your phone is settled, because reading is most of what it does. Doesn't write too often.
There are lots of custom governors, not so many custom schedulers, and lots of suggestions, but generally stock *IS* best, and if you don't understand it, you should not change it. Governors are fun to play with but even they can cause issues if poorly coded. Changing governors will give you a huge impact on battery, but also a relative impact on performance. It all depends on the use context. You'll rarely get much battery life without a performance hit unless you custom-tune settings for your own use context.
As for read-ahead, that value is iconic of exactly what I'm talking about. It is the "chunks" of data that your OS reads in one go. So if it needs 2k, or 2m, it reads a different number of chunks, but each chunk will be the size set by I/O read-ahead. Google likes 512 best. I've been told by the dev for the EX Kernel that internal Motorola devs like 128 best. Benchmarks like the biggest value possible, because they present the OS a massive pile of data and ask it to read it all as fast as possible. In that context, a large chunk size saves time. In most contexts, you read more than you need half the time. So a low value like 128 saves battery and memory.
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kiran91 said:
Hey developer,the banking apps I have does run after flashing a custom rom.Is there any workaround for this?.have to reflash stock after trying any custom rom.Its a pain in the as*.
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Android pay does this too, it's a "security" feature built-in by the devs to stop hacking. Not really necessary, but then neither are smartphones, so you take what you can get I guess. No ROM developer can work around this for you. The app is detecting any modification whatsoever. Even root may cause it.
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Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
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Badass dude. 9 hours SOT is wicked.
I'm finding the phone app drains the battery like crazy. Is this to be expected?
Hey @JohnHorus - thanks for your informative post. I'm currently trying Row 128 and will report back but I doubt I'll see any real-world difference in use. Memory and battery are two soft spots for me so I'm hopeful 128 will maintain solid performance.
Looking forward to reading about others' setups!
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Badass dude. 9 hours SOT is wicked.
I'm finding the phone app drains the battery like crazy. Is this to be expected?
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Yeah in my experience it drains the battery more then doing other things for some reason. As you can see in my 9 hrs picture I only used the phone for like 2 minutes lol.
I think I haven't seen a single review of Moto Z that isn't reporting the "too small 2600mAh" as the major "defect" of the phone...
Reading numbers and having an LG G2 that with it's 3000mAh battery was reported as one of the best "top of range" (of its years... obviously...) that with my over 400 apps installed barely reached 3.5h of SOT (Screen On Time, with no gaming, only Internet and apps...) and considering that Moto Z has on board a 2K screen which are known to be more energy hungry than full HD (as seen e.g. LG G2 vs. LG G3...) I was a bit worried too, so I decided to go with Incipio from day 1, having it ready when needed...
Well... it seems that the result is: Motorola 1 - Reviewers 0...
It's over a week I'm using and testing my Moto Z with same number of apps, usage and settings I had on G2... look at the results attached!
I've measured them with two of the best software available: Accubattery Pro & 3C Battery Pro, both available on Play Store (and I can confirm their readings with my direct impressions).
These are the results (min/max values as measured by the two apps...)
- SOT: 5h 32m - 6h 26m range
- Standby/screen off: 30h - 67h range
- Mixed/normal usage: 17h 18m - 19h 39m
These values are waaaay better than what I had on my G2 with similar setup/apps/usage (and it had 3000mAh battery...!), and surely suitable to cover a full day of usage... (mixed surely will increase when I'll stop to continuously look/tweak/modify my phone! :laugh.
Ok, I'm quite good on optimizing my phones to avoid wakelocks, unuseful starting & background apps (& so on...), but I think that this is a demostration of the *great* work done by Motorola boys on this phone...
As final considerations let me add that on screen off the battery usage is really LOW and on screen on, of the about 17-18%/h of battery usage, about 14-15%/h is from screen consumption (much higher than G2's IPS that can easily stay even under 10%/h if dimmed a bit), so if you are searching for even better battery time, limit display luminosity as much as possible and eventually try "pixels off" apps (not yet tested by me... only some blue screen filter when I'm on bed...) that could work fine on our Amoled display...
With Incipio battery installed you can consider about 2-3h more of SOT (depending if used to trickle charging main @80% or to recharge it from lower values, which seems less efficient to me...) and TONS of standby/screen off more hours... :fingers-crossed:
enetec said:
I think I haven't seen a single review of Moto Z that isn't reporting the "too small 2600mAh" as the major "defect" of the phone...
Reading numbers and having an LG G2 that with it's 3000mAh battery was reported as one of the best "top of range" (of its years... obviously...) that with my over 400 apps installed barely reached 3.5h of SOT (Screen On Time, with no gaming, only Internet and apps...) and considering that Moto Z has on board a 2K screen which are known to be more energy hungry than full HD (as seen e.g. LG G2 vs. LG G3...) I was a bit worried too, so I decided to go with Incipio from day 1, having it ready when needed...
Well... it seems that the result is: Motorola 1 - Reviewers 0...
It's over a week I'm using and testing my Moto Z with same number of apps, usage and settings I had on G2... look at the results attached!
I've measured them with two of the best software available: Accubattery Pro & 3C Battery Pro, both available on Play Store (and I can confirm their readings with my direct impressions).
These are the results (min/max values as measured by the two apps...)
- SOT: 5h 32m - 6h 26m range
- Standby/screen off: 30h - 67h range
- Mixed/normal usage: 17h 18m - 19h 39m
These values are waaaay better than what I had on my G2 with similar setup/apps/usage (and it had 3000mAh battery...!), and surely suitable to cover a full day of usage... (mixed surely will increase when I'll stop to continuously look/tweak/modify my phone! :laugh.
Ok, I'm quite good on optimizing my phones to avoid wakelocks, unuseful starting & background apps (& so on...), but I think that this is a demostration of the *great* work done by Motorola boys on this phone...
As final considerations let me add that on screen off the battery usage is really LOW and on screen on, of the about 17-18%/h of battery usage, about 14-15%/h is from screen consumption (much higher than G2's IPS that can easily stay even under 10%/h if dimmed a bit), so if you are searching for even better battery time, limit display luminosity as much as possible and eventually try "pixels off" apps (not yet tested by me... only some blue screen filter when I'm on bed...) that could work fine on our Amoled display...
With Incipio battery installed you can consider about 2-3h more of SOT (depending if used to trickle charging main @80% or to recharge it from lower values, which seems less efficient to me...) and TONS of standby/screen off more hours... :fingers-crossed:
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I reach 3.5 hours of SOT, I noticed that Android and Google play services are draining battery really fast, second and third on Battery stats, what is your advice to avoid that huge draining?
regards
juliospinoza said:
I reach 3.5 hours of SOT, I noticed that Android and Google play services are draining battery really fast, second and third on Battery stats, what is your advice to avoid that huge draining?
regards
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Hi Julio, do you have root?
enetec said:
Hi Julio, do you have root?
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Hi, does rooting drain the battery faster?
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silvercat said:
Hi, does rooting drain the battery faster?
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It could... BUT I've asked for the opposite reason: to reduce most of drains (especially with hundred of apps installed like in my case...) root is *mandatory*...
@enetec
Which apps do you use with root to get better batterylife?
Bender1987 said:
@enetec
Which apps do you use with root to get better batterylife?
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Many. And with a combined "settings cocktail" I tuned up in years of experiment on my old G2... :cyclops:
Most important are:
- CPU Master Pro (or equivalents, like e.g. Fauxclock, to set frequencies, governor, etc...)
- Greenify Pro with Xposed extensions (to hybernate some apps during screen off)
- Leandroid Pro (to limit 3G/4G/WiFi/GPS/Bluetooth drains)
Optional/useful are:
- ES System Monitor (to limit apps startup on conditions)
- Amplify (Xposed module to reduce wakelocks)
- Wakelock detector (to... Guess! )
- Accubattery Pro and/or 3C Battery Monitor Pro to monitor battery usage by system, apps, screen & so on...
- Eyefilter and Monochrome to reduce screen consumption on dark places or (very) low battery conditions...
These are all quite technical apps with hundred of settings that require a good knowledge of Android system and apps to be properly set.
So, my hint is to start with one and set it properly then, eventually, decide to go with the next one...
Better is to start with monitor apps (battery, wakelocks...) and then, decide where to go with tune up, based on reported (by these apps) results...
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Hi Julio, do you have root?
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no, I dont want to root it yet because is a great phone, I have the unlocked 03 version, double sim and 64gb; but I installed wakelock detector and thses are the process always on top
1. Google play services with thousands of wakelocks, always on top " net_scheduler" and " wake:com.google.android.gms"
2. Phone services with "gsmconnection"
Any advice to stop those annoying wakelocks. I will root it if I have too.
Thank you so much
juliospinoza said:
no, I dont want to root it yet because is a great phone, I have the unlocked 03 version, double sim and 64gb
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Any advice to stop those annoying wakelocks. I will root it if I have too.
Thank you so much
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Julio, this not a full-of-features-out-of-the-box-crap like an S7..
This is a Moto Z! You should root it BECAUSE it is a great phone!
Seriuously, getting the better of Moto Z requires root... and a solution for your problem (probably...) too.
I had to Greenify Play Services on my old LG G2 (for your same reason) and even if I started without doing it on Moto Z, I ended to Greenify them on Z too...
They are a (needed but) invasive & not so optimized set of services that often eat a lot of battery on... random!
Sometimes after one update they begin, then after another they stop and so on...
A good start (before root) could be installing a battery monitor like 3C and then post here some screenshots taken at end of a day (battery low...) taken from battery usage on settings, from 3C and from WLD... then we will see what to do about them.
Anyway the couple Greenify Pro in at least Root mode and Amplify Pro (requires root too...) are surely capable of solve it in any way...
enetec said:
Julio, this not a full-of-features-out-of-the-box-crap like an S7..
This is a Moto Z! You should root it BECAUSE it is a great phone!
Seriuously, getting the better of Moto Z requires root... and a solution for your problem (probably...) too.
I had to Greenify Play Services on my old LG G2 (for your same reason) and even if I started without doing it on Moto Z, I ended to Greenify them on Z too...
They are a (needed but) invasive & not so optimized set of services that often eat a lot of battery on... random!
Sometimes after one update they begin, then after another they stop and so on...
A good start (before root) could be installing a battery monitor like 3C and then post here some screenshots taken at end of a day (battery low...) taken from battery usage on settings, from 3C and from WLD... then we will see what to do about them.
Anyway the couple Greenify Pro in at least Root mode and Amplify Pro (requires root too...) are surely capable of solve it in any way...
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thanks for your support!
I will definitly root it eventualy, I have experience with my beloved Moto X.
What procedure do you recommend to root the moto z?
I will install 3C and post the screenshots, also with WLD.
regards my friend!
juliospinoza said:
thanks for your support!
I will definitly root it eventualy, I have experience with my beloved Moto X.
What procedure do you recommend to root the moto z?
I will install 3C and post the screenshots, also with WLD.
regards my friend!
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For the procedure simply follow the (working...) steps indicated in my "hacking experiences" post...
enetec said:
I think I haven't seen a single review of Moto Z that isn't reporting the "too small 2600mAh" as the major "defect" of the phone...
Reading numbers and having an LG G2 that with it's 3000mAh battery was reported as one of the best "top of range" (of its years... obviously...) that with my over 400 apps installed barely reached 3.5h of SOT (Screen On Time, with no gaming, only Internet and apps...) and considering that Moto Z has on board a 2K screen which are known to be more energy hungry than full HD (as seen e.g. LG G2 vs. LG G3...) I was a bit worried too, so I decided to go with Incipio from day 1, having it ready when needed...
Well... it seems that the result is: Motorola 1 - Reviewers 0...
It's over a week I'm using and testing my Moto Z with same number of apps, usage and settings I had on G2... look at the results attached!
I've measured them with two of the best software available: Accubattery Pro & 3C Battery Pro, both available on Play Store (and I can confirm their readings with my direct impressions).
These are the results (min/max values as measured by the two apps...)
- SOT: 5h 32m - 6h 26m range
- Standby/screen off: 30h - 67h range
- Mixed/normal usage: 17h 18m - 19h 39m
These values are waaaay better than what I had on my G2 with similar setup/apps/usage (and it had 3000mAh battery...!), and surely suitable to cover a full day of usage... (mixed surely will increase when I'll stop to continuously look/tweak/modify my phone! :laugh.
Ok, I'm quite good on optimizing my phones to avoid wakelocks, unuseful starting & background apps (& so on...), but I think that this is a demostration of the *great* work done by Motorola boys on this phone...
As final considerations let me add that on screen off the battery usage is really LOW and on screen on, of the about 17-18%/h of battery usage, about 14-15%/h is from screen consumption (much higher than G2's IPS that can easily stay even under 10%/h if dimmed a bit), so if you are searching for even better battery time, limit display luminosity as much as possible and eventually try "pixels off" apps (not yet tested by me... only some blue screen filter when I'm on bed...) that could work fine on our Amoled display...
With Incipio battery installed you can consider about 2-3h more of SOT (depending if used to trickle charging main @80% or to recharge it from lower values, which seems less efficient to me...) and TONS of standby/screen off more hours... :fingers-crossed:
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I have been wondering how can you people achieve 6 hours of SOT where as I am hardly getting around 3.5 hours after mixed use. Also I am worrying about what is Android system which stands second in my battery usage.
Yeah the battery on the Moto Z is actually pretty good in my experience. Back on MM, I would regularly get over 7 hours SOT. On nougat thats dropped to 5.5-6 hours, but still better than my old nexus 6.
This is the worst battery in any phone I've ever had. I can't even get thru a day at work without it almost dying. I listen to some music thru Bluetooth speaker in my crane and it chops the battery in half in just and hour of listening. I do regret buying this phone but I gave my mate 9 to my step daughter. I will be buying a new phone soon and will never buy another Motorola phone.
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enetec said:
For the procedure simply follow the (working...) steps indicated in my "hacking experiences" post...
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Can you please provide the best possible apss/way to optimize battery for non rooted moto Z.. I want to extend my SOT from 3-3.5 hrs
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ethan3686 said:
Can you please provide the best possible apss/way to optimize battery for non rooted moto Z.. I want to extend my SOT from 3-3.5 hrs
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Without root you can only work with (half) Greenify and with screen luminosity (it has a great impact on SOT...) I think...
Obviously, removing "bad" apps like Facebook or Messenger is mandatory... change them with Lite FB (that is *not* FB Lite... )
jr313 said:
This is the worst battery in any phone I've ever had. I can't even get thru a day at work without it almost dying. I listen to some music thru Bluetooth speaker in my crane and it chops the battery in half in just and hour of listening. I do regret buying this phone but I gave my mate 9 to my step daughter. I will be buying a new phone soon and will never buy another Motorola phone.
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Yup true in terms of battery it's the worst phone to ever have!! Have to charge it twice a day and barely ever got above 3 hour of SOT! But what can you expect from a 2600mah battery for a qhd screen. If you want this phone then you have to buy the battery mod in order to avoid charging twice a day otherwise it's a waste if your buying this phone and expecting it to last you a day..
enetec said:
Without root you can only work with (half) Greenify and with screen luminosity (it has a great impact on SOT...) I think...
Obviously, removing "bad" apps like Facebook or Messenger is mandatory... change them with Lite FB (that is *not* FB Lite... )
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What about rooted phones? What can we do with root and or xposed?
enetec said:
Many. And with a combined "settings cocktail" I tuned up in years of experiment on my old G2... :cyclops:
Most important are:
- CPU Master Pro (or equivalents, like e.g. Fauxclock, to set frequencies, governor, etc...)
- Greenify Pro with Xposed extensions (to hybernate some apps during screen off)
- Leandroid Pro (to limit 3G/4G/WiFi/GPS/Bluetooth drains)
Optional/useful are:
- ES System Monitor (to limit apps startup on conditions)
- Amplify (Xposed module to reduce wakelocks)
- Wakelock detector (to... Guess! )
- Accubattery Pro and/or 3C Battery Monitor Pro to monitor battery usage by system, apps, screen & so on...
- Eyefilter and Monochrome to reduce screen consumption on dark places or (very) low battery conditions...
These are all quite technical apps with hundred of settings that require a good knowledge of Android system and apps to be properly set.
So, my hint is to start with one and set it properly then, eventually, decide to go with the next one...
Better is to start with monitor apps (battery, wakelocks...) and then, decide where to go with tune up, based on reported (by these apps) results...
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retr00h said:
What about rooted phones? What can we do with root and or xposed?
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I Think it is quite well explained from in the post #7 from enetec. Not exactly on how to do it but some apps to get started with and do some more investigations around.
Check out the support thread for Moto Z issues found after Android update 7.1.1:
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z/Moto-Z-extreme-battery-drain-after-7-1-1-update/td-p/3758100
As the title say, which ROM has better battery life among android P custom roms? im asking this because I did install stock android p and I faced huge battery draining on stock + heat. I don't wanna disable adaptive brightness for that either. So im wondering whether the battery life is batter on customs roms. If so please do mention the rom you have
i cant stand adaptive brightness not only does it kill battery, but it scales at the worst times and not in the correct intervals. i believe my preferences and environments change to much for the "machine learning" to do its magic.
ANYWAYS. I believe carbon rom with flash kernel gave me the best battery. i used the unified script with it, and enabled Smart pixels (on with battery saver, 75% move every 10 min) . With that setup i was able to get about 6hr SOT moderate to heavy usage.
Aside from that, any lineage based rom is going to be good on battery. A few people here swear by stock rom with a community provided kernel. Give elementalX a try on stock rom and see if it helps.
noidea24 said:
i cant stand adaptive brightness not only does it kill battery, but it scales at the worst times and not in the correct intervals. i believe my preferences and environments change to much for the "machine learning" to do its magic.
ANYWAYS. I believe carbon rom with flash kernel gave me the best battery. i used the unified script with it, and enabled Smart pixels (on with battery saver, 75% move every 10 min) . With that setup i was able to get about 6hr SOT moderate to heavy usage.
Aside from that, any lineage based rom is going to be good on battery. A few people here swear by stock rom with a community provided kernel. Give elementalX a try on stock rom and see if it helps.
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So adaptive brightness kills the battery?hmm. For me it is good . Donno about battery because i haven' used my phone disabling it. Anyway carbon rom + flash kernel give you android oreo battery? that's all i wanted.