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Looking for proven and tested higher capacity battery for HTC Desire

As above, anyone using higher capacity battery for their HTC Desire and it is tested and proven to last longer than the original batter? Can post the link to purchase the battery?
Thanks!

Before you buy another battery, have you read this thread about calibrating your battery?

And have you installed a rom that allows underclocking? It makes a massive difference.
I am now getting 20+ hours from my phone where as before underclocking I was getting 8 hours.
Same amount of usage, just underclocking when screen is off.

Erm.. I will go read about it, but because I want to retain as it is now, thats why I'm looking for an extended battery.
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bryant_16 said:
Erm.. I will go read about it, but because I want to retain as it is now, thats why I'm looking for an extended battery.
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What kind of battery life do you currently get? Before (accidentally) calibrating my battery I was getting around 10-12 hours, now I'm getting around 36-42 hours.

I'm looking for one that can last me more than 1 day.

Lennyuk said:
And have you installed a rom that allows underclocking? It makes a massive difference.
I am now getting 20+ hours from my phone where as before underclocking I was getting 8 hours.
Same amount of usage, just underclocking when screen is off.
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Hey buddy, which app do you use for underclocking? Cheers,

bryant_16 said:
I'm looking for one that can last me more than 1 day.
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Well, I'm using the standard battery and have 26% remaining with "1d 10h" since unplugged (admittedly I haven't used the phone for that much in that time, just some internet usage, a couple of calls, but it's been constantly on WiFi or 3G to sync GMail).

Use SetCPU for underclocking, and use JuiceDefender to automatically turn off your data connection while the screen's off/locked.
It will still reconnect every 15 minutes to sync, and will remain connected as long as there's any continuing 3G traffic while the screen's off. Basically what it means is you're running one of the most power-consuming parts of your device only 1/15th of the time, which make a big difference. Text messages and voice calls come through instantly still - only things requiring a data connection like facebook, weather, twitter, etc will have any delay, and even then it'll only be 15 minutes at the most.
You can also try setting your phone to WCDMA-only, which means it won't be constantly trying to connect and maintain two radios simultaneously. GSM-only would be even better but depending on your carrier it might not work at all or might only work for voice.
With SetCPU try making a profile to automatically go into "powersave" mode when the screen's off, which will ensure the CPU never clocks up past its minimum speed during that time. It's still over 200 mhz, more than enough for anything you might want to do in the background. For normal operation, between 499 and 768 mhz as the maximum clock, depending on your preference, should be adequate and will save you a little bit of battery life as well all the time.
Also, download a widget to allow you to manually set screen brightness when you're indoors and the auto setting is useless. I have my screen brightness set to 15% while indoors and it's still plenty bright. I have the SLCD model, I don't know if that makes any difference.
My phone has been off the charger for 17 hours and 10 minutes. During that time, the screen was on for 2 hours and 29 minutes. I'm at 79% battery life with the standard battery.

Mugen 3200mah. Mine lasts a day with ease and heavy use.

paprkut said:
Mugen 3200mah. Mine lasts a day with ease and heavy use.
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Yours able to charge it properly?

A small update to my previous post... I'm now at 32 hours, 38 minutes uptime, 4 hours 44 minutes awake time (screen on). Battery just reached 60 percent. Stock battery.
Remember when you made the choice to buy an Android, you were in effect saying you wanted to have a highly customizable miniature computer. Just like when you customize [insert your desktop OS of choice] to suit your taste, you need to configure your phone in order to get what you want out of it - namely, better battery life than with the standard settings.
HTC's goal with the Desire was to have a showpiece, it runs very fast and it looks good doing it. But they designed it with frequent charging in mind. Since most of us here, I imagine, would prefer to charge less often, we just need to configure the phone appropriately.
If you want a guaranteed solution, try this:
- Install NextSense rom (it's free, latest version right now is 5.3 AFAIK, I'm currently using 5.2 still)
- Install JuiceDefender - it's free on the market and its default settings are, for a change, very intelligent and effective.
- Install SetCPU - You can get it free on this forum. Set it to "interactive" mode with a bottom speed of 245 and a top speed of 806 to start with. The default is 998 at the top, but 200 mhz doesn't make a big difference in this case except to help battery life a bit. Once installed, add a profile for "screen off" which sets the phone to "powersave" mode. This will keep it running at the minimum clock any time you're not using it. Nothing running in the background while you're not even using the phone requires more than the minimum CPU speed.
- Install the Brightness Widget by Curvefish. It's free on the market. Put its widget on your desktop and keep your screen brightness at 25% while you're indoors. 15% is what I use, but 25% is one of the presets so it's a bit easier. I have an SLCD display so the brightness I get on auto might just be different from what OLED gets on auto, I don't know, but in any case for me it's way brighter than it needs to be.
- Set your screen timeout to no more than 2 minutes
- Make sure any apps that sync data do so in a reasonable interval. +/- 15 minutes won't ruin your day for most things.
- Under Wireless & Networks, set your phone's connection to WCDMA-only (3G-only). For many people this results in an increase to both signal quality and battery life, since it allows your phone to only run one radio at a time, making a significant difference. If it doesn't work for you, it's as simple as turning it back to the default setting.
- Disable haptic feedback and see if you mind the difference. Making all those little vibrations takes power too.
- Finally (obviously) don't run a live background, but you probably already know that.
Doing all of the above takes an hour or maybe two at most to set up and the difference in battery life is tremendous. It's simple to do, I worked out all of the above on my own and I've literally only had the phone for 4 days now I think, never touched a smartphone before in my life let alone an Android.
Give it a try, you have nothing to lose, and it will probably save you needing to buy a battery. Or, if you still buy a double-capacity battery, it'll mean you can run for like a week on a charge.
edit: also make sure to get the latest version of the radio driver, I don't have a frame of reference for comparison since I updated mine right away, but apparently it makes a fair bit of difference and probably gives you a more reliable cell signal in the process.
In case you think I'm exaggerating, here are some pics I just took.

What's the ideal settings for juice defender? Cos my phone is not rooted so I'm not going to use the SetCPU application.

What do you mean charge properly ??

Is it able to charge?

bryant_16 said:
What's the ideal settings for juice defender? Cos my phone is not rooted so I'm not going to use the SetCPU application.
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"Ideal" settings are basically the way it's configured by default. You can't improve upon them much even by getting the "premium" upgrade unless your phone is rooted... but SetCPU is a better choice in that case anyway.
Just install it, hit "enable" after it's done auto-detecting your phone's capabilities, and you're done. It's really that simple.
Be sure to add it to your task killer exclusion list if you use one.

You saying the default option is for SetCPU or Juicedefender?
So just download the free juicedefender is good enough for me already since the pro version is more for rooted phones? (mine is not rooted)

Can somebody pls. post the link to SetCPU?

cyron_at said:
Can somebody pls. post the link to SetCPU?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419

bryant_16 said:
So just download the free juicedefender is good enough for me already since the pro version is more for rooted phones? (mine is not rooted)
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Yes exactly. The pro version unlocks some more customization but ultimately won't add a whole lot to your battery life no matter how it's set up. I mean, beyond what the "regular" version does.

Buying the Nexus 5

Hi all I've come to a decision that buying the Nexus 5 is worth it, a perfect collection to my devices
The Snapdragon 800 Quad 2.3 got my attention and its pretty cheap
I would like to ask about the battery life and if there are any custom roms that improve it
Thanks alot

Hi,
For the battery life it will vary from each users, it depends on your usage and settings (screen brightness, synchro, GPS, etc...), for more details you can take a look here for example: Nexus 5 Battery Results. Some users have 7 hrs screen on time, others 3 hrs (plus the idle time to take in consideration) for example, like I said it depends of your use. If you are a gamer the battery life will not be the same as the user who use its phone only for SMS.
Again you will have different opinions (and people that claims that x rom or x kernel is the best for battery life, you'll have the same number of opinions as there are different roms / kernels and it will not help you more...), for some the battery life is great and for others it's terrible, etc..., I would say the average is a day for about 4 Hrs screen on time with "normal" (or "light" use, I mean not 1 hour of Dead Trigger) use. It will depend of what you will do with your phone?
The battery life is mainly on the user side, it's not x rom or y rom that will give you better or worse battery life (unless a big issue in the rom, but... or sometimes it's the Gapps that drain more than usual it's right). If you have a bad signal or a rogue app that give you a ton of wackelocks so higher battery drain, whatever the rom or the kernel you will use it will be always the same thing.
If you want improve your battery life, know what apps you have, how and what they do in background for example (to avoid wackeloks), you can underclock, etc...
Take a look here also about battery life and kernel: Nexus 5 Battery benchmarks.
And there is already a bunch of threads (and review) about battery life in the Q&A forum...

viking37 said:
Hi,
For the battery life it will vary from each users, it depends on your usage and settings (screen brightness, synchro, GPS, etc...), for more details you can take a look here for example: Nexus 5 Battery Results. Some users have 7 hrs screen on time, others 3 hrs (plus the idle time to take in consideration) for example, like I said it depends of your use. If you are a gamer the battery life will not be the same as the user who use its phone only for SMS.
Again you will have different opinions (and people that claims that x rom or x kernel is the best for battery life, you'll have the same number of opinions as there are different roms / kernels and it will not help you more...), for some the battery life is great and for others it's terrible, etc..., I would say the average is a day for about 4 Hrs screen on time with "normal" (or "light" use, I mean not 1 hour of Dead Trigger) use. It will depend of what you will do with your phone?
The battery life is mainly on the user side, it's not x rom or y rom that will give you better or worse battery life (unless a big issue in the rom, but... or sometimes it's the Gapps that drain more than usual it's right). If you have a bad signal or a rogue app that give you a ton of wackelocks so higher battery drain, whatever the rom or the kernel you will use it will be always the same thing.
If you want improve your battery life, know what apps you have, how and what they do in background for example (to avoid wackeloks), you can underclock, etc...
Take a look here also about battery life and kernel: Nexus 5 Battery benchmarks.
And there is already a bunch of threads (and review) about battery life in the Q&A forum...
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Revontheus said:
Hi all I've come to a decision that buying the Nexus 5 is worth it, a perfect collection to my devices
The Snapdragon 800 Quad 2.3 got my attention and its pretty cheap
I would like to ask about the battery life and if there are any custom roms that improve it
Thanks alot
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To add to what they said though, certain Kernels with certain Roms can HELP with battery life but it all boils down to how the user uses it. I can tell you that with my same usage on KitKat and Cyanogenmod 11 (CM11), I get better battery life out of CM11. I recorded about a 4 hour longer battery life on CM11 as opposed to default KitKat that comes on the device.
You should look into CM11, it's a cleaner, more effecient, more customizable version of KitKat.
Hope this helps!
Great job to Viking on explaining battery life/Roms

@viking37, I Saw on some reviews on the internet that it comes pre-throttled ( pre underclocked ) is this true

Revontheus said:
@viking37, I Saw on some reviews on the internet that it comes pre-throttled ( pre underclocked ) is this true
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Underclocked, for the Nexus 5 , I never saw this, have you a link?
All Nexus 5 are clocked at max 2,26 Ghz, nothing less... It seems that there is different variants of the S800 (clocked at 2,4/2,5 Ghz) but the S800 in the Nexus 5 it's 2,26 Ghz (MSM8974AA).
Maybe you mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)#Snapdragon_800?

I have no issues with battery life ... I consistently get 14-20 hours of use with 3-5 hours of screen time or 2-3 hours of screen with 1-2 hours of voice.
Auto brightness, GPS on, nothing special.
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Oh thank goodness, I saw some reviews saying it comes pre-throttled to save battery
Thanks

battery life is terrible but after some modification, it better a lot.
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I get 24 hours and 5 to 6 screen time. Tweaked heavily with battery life in mind.
Its nearly as good as my Moto x.
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What is the good Custom ROM and kernel for 5+ SOT?

I used default stock ROM (6.0.1), RR (7.1.1), CM 12.1 (5.1.1) with squid kernel but still my battery don't get even 3 hrs SOT with greenify also. I mostly use it for facebook and whatsapp only. I cant afford a new phone due to this. Plz help me. TIA.

SanRak said:
I used default stock ROM (6.0.1), RR (7.1.1), CM 12.1 (5.1.1) with squid kernel but still my battery don't get even 3 hrs SOT with greenify also. I mostly use it for facebook and whatsapp only. I cant afford a new phone due to this. Plz help me. TIA.
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No rom will give you that much of a increase, stock is the best battery in general but there is no way any tweaking will increase that significantly.
Sounds like you need to replace the battery...

uninsall the fb app.........use fb on chrome............fb is the mother of all battery sucker apps

Crimsongrey said:
uninsall the fb app.........use fb on chrome............fb is the mother of all battery sucker apps
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Facebook Lite, way better than on mobile browser.

acejavelin said:
Facebook Lite, way better than on mobile browser.
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Completely wrong

Crimsongrey said:
Completely wrong
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That maybe your opinion, but I disagree... Facebook Lite with it's built in Messenger is essentially a specially written browser, uses far less memory than Chrome, removes ads from videos (in general there are less ads throughout) plus you can still get push notifications. I have been using it for months.
If I am "completely wrong" give me some proof. In fact, although the regular Facebook is not the best, it is hardly "mother of all battery sucker apps". It is a space and data hog, but it doesn't use battery any more than REAL hogs like Snapchat, Netflix, Amazon Shopping, SoundCloud, or Outlook, in fact if you do some testing it has less effect on battery than you likely think (granted 2-3 years ago this was different, FB used to be one of the worst offenders).
Regardless, the OP was looking for an app to increase SOT... unless you can lower the battery usage of the display, you are not going to see increases in the magnitude the OP is looking for, from 3 hours to 5 hours, or a 66% increase in SOT. No app change or ROM is going to make a change even close to that.

Crimsongrey said:
Completely wrong
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Comments like that are hardly useful (or credible).
If you feel the need to make comments, please make them constructive and with some substance.

http://www.huffingtonpost.in/entry/facebook-iphone-battery-life_us_56b8b6c5e4b08069c7a7fc54
(It could boost your Android’s battery by as much as 20 percent,)
https://www.androidcentral.com/it-turns-out-uninstalling-facebook-android-pretty-great
(android central)
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...alling-facebook-app-saves-iphone-battery-life
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...eeds_up_your_android/?st=j5c24vbs&sh=4c9b128f
there are too many on the web........

I agree with @ace Sir Facebook lite is good option .... Now u also have an option of Messanger lite
And also Battery Usage/SOT completely depends on ur usage OP .:angel:

SanRak said:
I used default stock ROM (6.0.1), RR (7.1.1), CM 12.1 (5.1.1) with squid kernel but still my battery don't get even 3 hrs SOT with greenify also. I mostly use it for facebook and whatsapp only. I cant afford a new phone due to this. Plz help me. TIA.
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3 hours SOT with greenify is a little off. you need to watch for wakelocks. better battery stats or wakelock detector can be useful to you. and also, if you have greenified the apps that you use the most, it will reopen those apps everytime you open the app, that could do more harm than good. you can try shallow hibernation, or just install naptime and tweak the doze parameters using GeraldRudi's method and quit greenify for some days just to see if this improves.
Then again, your battery could be the culprit, that's always a possibility
about ROM's, every ROM has it's merits, but Motorola really knows how to optimize their ROM, so for now, I think stock ROM gives the best battery life, even if that is marginally better than custom ROMs.
Kernels: Stock moto kernel is very efficient, but you might get a little bit more battery life with squid kernel, it has a great governor that relies on voting mechanism, plus it's just perfectly undervolted to get you some extra battery. probably a 15-20% difference than the stock one.

1) Use AOSP-CAF based ROM like Tesla.
2) Flash squid or Firekernel
3) Reduce the Max Freq to 1152Mhz and Min to 200Mhz
4) Use IntelliPlug Hotplug (Turn off Touch Boost and set Screen off frequency to 400Mhz)
5) Install Force Doze app and add Facebook, WhatsApp and other Battery consuming app to blacklist (Remember you will not get notifications from those app if screen is off).
6) Don't charge too quickly, always charge to 100% and plug when it discharged to below 10% (Recommended to charge at night).
It will improve your overall battery backup and somehow SOT.
At last i am totally agree with @acejavelin Facebook Lite app is made for low memory devices so it consume less memory and also less Battery. Also it's fast and have almost every features.

The real problem here is the device is going on 2, maybe 3 years old... the battery is at it's limit and will need to be changed to get really good SOTs.
My Moto G 2015 used to get 5+ hours SOT easy... not it's barely 3.5... and this is a backup device, it has NOTHING installed in it at all but it was used regularly for 18 months. The battery is just not what it used to be and if I am going to continue to use it as a alternate device I will need to replace the battery. Like it or not, these devices were not designed for more than 2 years of service.

nikhilpal2705 said:
1) Use AOSP-CAF based ROM like Tesla.
2) Flash squid or Firekernel
3) Reduce the Max Freq to 1152Mhz and Min to 200Mhz
4) Use IntelliPlug Hotplug (Turn off Touch Boost and set Screen off frequency to 400Mhz)
5) Install Force Doze app and add Facebook, WhatsApp and other Battery consuming app to blacklist (Remember you will not get notifications from those app if screen is off).
6) Don't charge too quickly, always charge to 100% and plug when it discharged to below 10% (Recommended to charge at night).
It will improve your overall battery backup and somehow SOT.
At last i am totally agree with @acejavelin Facebook Lite app is made for low memory devices so it consume less memory and also less Battery. Also it's fast and have almost every features.
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downclocking the cpu is kind of redundant and saves less power than what it takes. the reason why for some users min-max is a battery saving governor. Besides, the performence hit is greater than the battery gained which is not at all more than 2% probably.
you should not fully charge your battery. you can, but the best practice is to charge upto 80%. And anything bellow 25% is not good.
the issue is either wakelock or dying battery, no tweak is going to save him if the underlying issue is not fixed, moreover, doze is the most sophisticated solution to save battery till now, downclocking, hotplugs these are pointless unless one's usage is known to us. I'd suggest to have doze editor if you must have a doze interface.

You can use aosp caf osprey by Ahmed hady...it will give 6 hrs plus sot from moderate to normal use..

ONEPLUS 6 screen resolution

Hello Guys is there any way to change One plus 6 screen resolution like to change it from
1080p to 720p ??
to save battery life..:laugh:

@me said:
Hello Guys is there any way to change One plus 6 screen resolution like to change it from
1080p to 720p ??
to save battery life..:laugh:
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8 hours of screen time already. You want more?

nabbed said:
8 hours of screen time already. You want more?
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I always get 4:30 or at most 5 hours of screen on time!!
how U get 8 !! even 6 is impossible for me

@me said:
I always get 4:30 or at most 5 hours of screen on time!!
how U get 8 !! even 6 is impossible for me
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OxygenOS 9.0.2, and latest blu_spark kernel with blu_schedutil governor, i can go around 9h SOT, but in normal daily usage i get around 5h30 with 36h standby, you gotta watch what's running on your phone

Totone56 said:
OxygenOS 9.0.2, and latest blu_spark kernel with blu_schedutil governor, i can go around 9h SOT, but in normal daily usage i get around 5h30 with 36h standby, you gotta watch what's running on your phone
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Nice :laugh:

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Nice :laugh:
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One thing i saw is you start to get good battery life when you don't think about it anymore Just stock, with maybe a custom kernel (blu_spark and Franco are amazing), and you get very good results !
By the way, regarding your OP, on LG G3, is always used it at 1080p instead of 1440p. It was smoother (the S801 had trouble at this time), but battery was exactly the same ! You shouldn't worry about it, Snapdragon 625 devices drive 1080p without problems.

Totone56 said:
One thing i saw is you start to get good battery life when you don't think about it anymore Just stock, with maybe a custom kernel (blu_spark and Franco are amazing), and you get very good results !
By the way, regarding your OP, on LG G3, is always used it at 1080p instead of 1440p. It was smoother (the S801 had trouble at this time), but battery was exactly the same ! You shouldn't worry about it, Snapdragon 625 devices drive 1080p without problems.
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I agree. When you think about it too much I think you set high expectations and when they are not met, you feel as though your phone has terrible battery life. I used to think 3.5-4 hrs SOT was really bad for a modern phone but that very comfortably gets me through my normal day. So I'm happy with that kind of performance since I charge up once every 18-30 hours.
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daniel4653 said:
I agree. Wheb you think about it too much I think you set high expectations and when they are not met, you feel as though your phone has terrible battery life. I used to think 3.5-4 hrs SOT was really bad for a modern phone but that very comfortably gets me through my normal day. So I'm happy with that kid of performance since I charge up once every 18-30 hours
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Exactly. And tweaking too much sometimes have a negative effect.
And when i forget about it, i find that the battery life is almost always better after 3-4 days on "normal use", and by that i mean not using the phone with battery in mind. Ex : Browsing Facebook for 5mn and killing the app vs using it for 10 or 15mn, answering two emails, and locking the phone ... At the end of the day, the second scenario corresponds to an average of 1h more SOT, but battery is only 3/4% less, so in fact, stats are way better ... Killing apps, underclocking, preventing background activity ... All of this gives more battery in very specific situations, but in normal usage, it kills it (taks take longer, apps refresh with 10x more work when you open them, some like Facebook freak out when restricted by things like Greenify ...).
In short : Let the device do it's thing, maybe just cut things you'll never use or don't want (Bloat, services, ect), maybe switch kernels without tweaking too much, then forget about it.

All Browsers destroy my battery

I am currently on stock Android 12. I flashed the unlocked stock image (non-verizon) a few weeks back. With Android 11, Android 12, LineageOS, etc. every browser I have tried including Chrome, Brave, Via, etc. all drain the battery way faster than browsers did on my previous Moto G5 plus. i would say when I am surfing the net on my browser (usually just reading forums, no video), the battery drains about 1% every 5 minutes or less. I have tried 2.4Ghz wifi, LTE, etc. and data connection type doesn't seem to impact anything.
Is this normal for this phone? anything to do to reduce browser battery drain?

If you go into battery usage graph, is the browser the only app listed as using up the battery (and not the screen brightness, or another app that may be contributing to the heavy usage)

JohnC said:
If you go into battery usage graph, is the browser the only app listed as using up the battery (and not the screen brightness, or another app that may be contributing to the heavy usage)
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correct. if I am using other apps the battery drain isn't near as severe. I keep the display setting "extra dim" enabled all the time and I keep it down as low as I can tolerate. I use a pitch black wallpaper use dark mode in browsers so they have mostly black background with white text.
Phone idle is the only other thing that seems to use a sizeable amount of battery according to the battery usage data in settings.

Sounds about right. Came from a Moto G7 Play (15 months back) and saw similar drain rates. All three devices have similar battery specs which plays into the units being used to assess drain. Is what it is.
FWIW - Opera

DB126 said:
Sounds about right. Came from a Moto G7 Play (15 months back) and saw similar drain rates. All three devices have similar battery specs which plays into the units being used to assess drain. Is what it is.
FWIW - Opera
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Not gonna lie, it makes me want to go back to Motorola when this Pixel bites the dust.

badtlc said:
Not gonna lie, it makes me want to go back to Motorola when this Pixel bites the dust.
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Many Moto's bring a nice package with unique tricks. Gotta do your homework on what features are most important when the time comes.

DB126 said:
Many Moto's bring a nice package with unique tricks. Gotta do your homework on what features are most important when the time comes.
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I definitely did that. I only got the 4a because it was the perfect size and had a headphone jack. I assumed with a newer hardware set and similar sized battery compared to my old phone batter life "should" be better. Nope.

Na, it's more complicated. 4a sports more sensors, brighter/denser display, faster processors, etc. System and personal apps clearly play a role in longevity (behind screen brightness); you'd need to do a detail study to understand what's drawing when and why.
I use to fuss over such matters but find the device lasts a full day for my use case which is all that really matters. Charges up quick from a modest size battery pack when camping/traveling. Just like past Motos.
Not sure who I'll partner with in the next dance. Love Pixel cameras (especially in challenging conditions) and routine updates. Miss some of Moto's innovations, like active display and actions. Needs to be close to AOSP; no Samsung UX butchery. In the end form factor will likely be the deciding factor once non-contenders are ruled out.

badtlc said:
I assumed with a newer hardware set and similar sized battery compared to my old phone batter life "should" be better.
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I don't know what CPU you came from, but if the Moto only had "small" cores then of course it used less battery. "Big" cores use more power. They go faster too, but if you have a constant load, then they'll eat battery faster.
I don't know if there's a non-root way to disable the big cores, but I suspect you can do it with root (but don't know for sure).
Otherwise, you gotta get your browser to stop running JavaScript. If you're watching video you need to make sure the browser is offloading all the decoding to the hardware codecs rather than doing it on the CPU.
And if the screen is on, it might help to try and get it "more black" (eg. Use night mode) or turn down the brightness. The screen is often the primary user of power when a device is being used.

a1291762 said:
I don't know what CPU you came from, but if the Moto only had "small" cores then of course it used less battery. "Big" cores use more power. They go faster too, but if you have a constant load, then they'll eat battery faster.
I don't know if there's a non-root way to disable the big cores, but I suspect you can do it with root (but don't know for sure).
Otherwise, you gotta get your browser to stop running JavaScript. If you're watching video you need to make sure the browser is offloading all the decoding to the hardware codecs rather than doing it on the CPU.
And if the screen is on, it might help to try and get it "more black" (eg. Use night mode) or turn down the brightness. The screen is often the primary user of power when a device is being used.
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Thanks for the suggestions. My power complaints are just limited to the browser so I dont think it is just the larger CPUs. I think my standby consumption issues are related to Stock Android as I am now running GrapheneOS and my standby power consumption now matches my old Moto G5 Plus.
As for browser usage consumption, I have tried everything but disabling Javascript. I will try that and see if it breaks anything I use regularly. Thanks for the idea.
tangent back to general power consumption, I typically disable just about everything behind the scenes as I can. I keep the theme on pitch black. I use the extra dim setting to keep screen brightness as low as I can tolerate. I use night mode in browser to keep as much black background as possible. I disable all tap-to-wake or sensor based features. When I was trying to run Android 12, I disabled all the smart services and removed all the google apps I could. I removed all permissions I could. I restricted all apps I could. I disabled adaptive settings, etc. There is a bunch of stuff running in the background on Android 12 and I just could not

Welcome to the future. Older phones had better battery life

Locklear308 said:
Welcome to the future. Older phones had better battery life
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I dont think it is all the phone. GrapheneOS has 40% better standby battery usage than stock android 12. On graphene, it matches my old Moto G5 Plus. It is either lazy programmers with inefficient coding these days or it is google having the stock OS do waaaay too much by default with no way to disable it.
I'm trying to figure that out now.

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I dont think it is all the phone. GrapheneOS has 40% better standby battery usage than stock android 12. On graphene, it matches my old Moto G5 Plus. It is either lazy programmers with inefficient coding these days or it is google having the stock OS do waaaay too much by default with no way to disable it.
I'm trying to figure that out now.
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I totally agree on the lazy thing. So many devs now days are so lazy. I develope QuickBase databases and constantly run into extremely poorly setup realms/apps. Just basic stuff. Lol