Root coming SOON - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion

Emails are out.. We will have root soon for y'all.. Just received the device yesterday...
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Nice

Root's nothing like it used to be and still won't open up ROM dev so what's the point?
Genuinely interested, not being a ****...

FOLLOWING

I hope you are successful on getting root

joe3681 said:
Root's nothing like it used to be and still won't open up ROM dev so what's the point?
Genuinely interested, not being a ****...
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Perma root would still allow customization, open up a lot apps etc.
Right? Am I missing something?

steves850 said:
Perma root would still allow customization, open up a lot apps etc.
Right? Am I missing something?
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I remember back in the day having Xposed and using Wanam Xposed or GravityBox. The snapchat mods, etc... Not to even mention rooting for TWRP and custom roms.
These days just doesn't seem worth the hit in battery life engineering kernels bring.

steves850 said:
Perma root would still allow customization, open up a lot apps etc.
Right? Am I missing something?
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Plus the ability to use titanium backup to back up apps so if you have to install stick from thru odin you could restore apps. Hopefully root will let us change the stupid lock screen clock as the way it displays without notifications sucks.

blazinandroid1 said:
Emails are out.. We will have root soon for y'all.. Just received the device yesterday...
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This is amazing news for us AT&T users !. Anyone that is working on it is going to be praised or paid. Thank you so much for taking the time to do so !. I have the s8 plus but hopefully they all work ! will waiting patient

Thank you lawd jesus!

U guys do know there's a lot of discussion and even bounty threads in the regular S8 forums right lol

another root thread for the SD s8 sweet hope it works out maybe everyone can team up
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@blazinandroid1 how do you plan on getting root, or what will you do differently?

Posted this in the REAL root update thread but I'll share it here, too. Oh, how I'd love to eat my words, I mean post, but I would temper the excitement.
https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxynote4/comments/321a8e/turns_out_that_blazinandroid1_was_a_troll/

Before anyone gets too excited, please read the Reddit thread linked above. You are being trolled. And if this does turn out to be the case, I'll do everything I can to call for him to be perma-banned.

lol this thread will be fun

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Closing this placeholder thread they aren't allowed on XDA. When you have actual development to share, do so.
Until then this is .................................CLOSED..................

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Z4root

I used z4root on my Droid x to root anyone try on the TB with luck.
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Cporcelli said:
I used z4root on my Droid x to root anyone try on the TB with luck.
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I haven't tried it or heard of anyone attempting it, there are some easy root options here but personally I always recommend rooting the hard way first, it's rather simple and helps you keep your adb skills up to par.
It may be just me but I like to know how I got from point A to point B so I know exactly where something went wrong. z4root is a great app for people who have already rooted their device and have lost root, however it gets a lot of people where they don't belong with absolutely no knowledge of adb and then come to the community for help but don't know what went wrong making it near to impossible for us to correct, which they then file an insurance claim and send back the device they broke, which in my opinion is one of the main reasons some manufacturers are locking down hard.
Sorry for the rant! However I would NOT attempt to use z4root. Follow the guides here, it's untested and could have adverse affects on your device.
No. Don't even. Stop. Use the root method that is OFFICIALLY supported A.K.A. the manual way.
Please.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...he-htc-thunderbolt-and-unlock-its-bootloader/
ProTekk said:
No. Don't even. Stop. Use the root method that is OFFICIALLY supported A.K.A. the manual way.
Please.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...he-htc-thunderbolt-and-unlock-its-bootloader/
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ProTekk said:
No. Don't even. Stop. Use the root method that is OFFICIALLY supported A.K.A. the manual way.
Please.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...he-htc-thunderbolt-and-unlock-its-bootloader/
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That's awesome, i didn't know that method was OFFICIALLY supported. I'll just call Verizon and have the CSR help me with it.
s3gfault said:
That's awesome, i didn't know that method was OFFICIALLY supported. I'll just call Verizon and have the CSR help me with it.
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woot!
s3gfault said:
That's awesome, i didn't know that method was OFFICIALLY supported. I'll just call Verizon and have the CSR help me with it.
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OK, I was being nice but screw it. Dude, do me a favor and shove your thumb up your ass and spin on it. I did my research before posting. You should have done yours. Enjoy.
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s3gfault said:
That's awesome, i didn't know that method was OFFICIALLY supported. I'll just call Verizon and have the CSR help me with it.
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If you're trying to look like a witty person you failed. Last time I checked this was XDA, I thought that here one XDA we hacked phones, removed bloatware, themed them, and had our own SUPPORTED methods for certain things that have been tried and tested. Ninety-eight percent of things on this website would not be supported by VZW due to the fact most of things void your warranty or go against TOS and since you're here, and you are posting in a thread about z4root I can only assume you know that (and that's giving you the benefit of the doubt that you might have the slightest bit of knowledge about what we do here).
I'm not really sure what it is that compels people to post moronic arbitrary comments in hopes of getting a rise out of people rather than posting something useful. ProTekk did his homework and gave the OP a link to the supported method for root here in the Thunderbolt forums, if you have an issue with people being helpful I suggest you move along and find a more fitting environment where people are more inclined to feed the trolls this isn't /b/ for god sakes.
Cporcelli said:
I used z4root on my Droid x to root anyone try on the TB with luck.
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Not vulnerable.
Thanks to the people with actual replies. Will try the "official " method.
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Galaxy 7 Plus Devs.

This may seem like a redundant request but if you are or are GOING to be deving for this device could you post your Twitter or G+ id's here so we can follow your work?
That would be great.
+1 ...we fought for a forum...now no development...kinda disheartening.
I guess I need to get back with it now that I have kernel source...
You could follow me all you want, but you probably won't like where I'll lead. I usually don't bother with twitter, g+, facebook, or any other "social" site. (On the other hand, if you find any anti-social sites, please let me know.)
need to brainwash the tab8.9/10.1 developers to do the custom ROMs for us as well..
btw, what are we looking for in a new custom ROM?
EXT4, i think Samsung already moved to this...
Optimization
- Hardware Acceleration? Already ON by default in Honeycomb, I have done this mod and no difference at all.. it depends on the app to utilize this feature...
Theming ? Once rooted, you can modify the framework files.. should be quite easy, but abit time consuming... and requires creativity...
- Bloat removal? just ROOT and remove those excess fats..
bdigitalstudio said:
need to brainwash the tab8.9/10.1 developers to do the custom ROMs for us as well..
btw, what are we looking for in a new custom ROM?
EXT4, i think Samsung already moved to this...
Optimization
- Hardware Acceleration? Already ON by default in Honeycomb, I have done this mod and no difference at all.. it depends on the app to utilize this feature...
Theming ? Once rooted, you can modify the framework files.. should be quite easy, but abit time consuming... and requires creativity...
- Bloat removal? just ROOT and remove those excess fats..
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My two yr old son plays fruit ninja and the calculator/calendar/etc opens. I bet a lot ofyou experience the same annoyance of the bottom bar mini apps not having the option to hide or lock on games and other apps on fullscren.
I'm not likely to be getting the device but I'm gonna stop by and help out to get things off the ground.
In terms of speed of development, keep in mind this thing "soft launched" in the US - I didn't even know until a few days ago that it was available at all. It's typical for a device to take a few weeks to get off the ground, the I777 was an unusual exception due to being 95%+ identical to the I9100 and being a majorly anticipated handset launch.
I'm going to start on something here soon, buy this will be my first developing for any device, so you prob won't want to follow anything I do, its gonna be slow and buggy
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Bromar said:
its gonna be slow and buggy
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Do you work for microsoft?
Ha u would think
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khel26 said:
My two yr old son plays fruit ninja and the calculator/calendar/etc opens. I bet a lot ofyou experience the same annoyance of the bottom bar mini apps not having the option to hide or lock on games and other apps on fullscren.
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You can use "Honeybar" ROOT from the Android Market. It lets you hide the bar in Honeycomb.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.hanhuy.android.hsbm
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(On the other hand, if you find any anti-social sites, please let me know.)
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You're already here bro.
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I realize that you are trying to get all the Devs in one spot and thats a great idea in a new forum... however since nothing is being developed here (rom/kernel) Im going to have to move this to the General section.
Red5 said:
I realize that you are trying to get all the Devs in one spot and thats a great idea in a new forum... however since nothing is being developed here (rom/kernel) Im going to have to move this to the General section.
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ugh. next thing you know, he's going to create a "Q&A" forum for us. That's when I'll start running away.
garyd9 said:
ugh. next thing you know, he's going to create a "Q&A" forum for us. That's when I'll start running away.
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If it gets big enough then I will. The Dev thread is for development, not asking questions or asking for people to raise their hand.
Red5 said:
If it gets big enough then I will. The Dev thread is for development, not asking questions or asking for people to raise their hand.
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umm.. but they have to raise their hand in order for you to smell their armpits. How else will you know who is a dev and who isn't? (I think I might have just insulted myself... hrmm)
I just posted this over in the 10.1 community's General section, hopefully someone can help me get started!
Maybe someone here can hep me get the ball rolling as well?
blinksilver said:
Hi all,
I just got my hands on a galaxy tab 7.0 plus and was hoping to build a rom for its community (no one has really built a rom for 7.0, its a small community and we just got CWM).
Ideally I'd like to kang together a stock Honeycomb 3.2 rom, free of touchwiz. I was hoping to port over one of the Google I/O Roms for the 10.1. I figure our devices are close enough that I can try tossing over the build props, make sure to use the boot/recovery images from the 7.0 and maybe, just maybe, get lucky. Or at least have a good start.
The problem is that I can't seem to find any of the Google I/O roms, past 3.1. Do those device not get updates? Is there another Touchwiz free rom I can start from? I remembering reading a while back that TWUX is an optional update for the 10.1. I've been looking around, but I'm have a heck of a time finding links that clearly imply I'm dling a Touchwiz free rom. Most of the just say "Stock" which is a bit ambiguous.
If someone would be kind enough to point me to an ODIN and CWM mod version of the sorta rom I'm looking for I'd be greatly appreciative(and hopefully if I can get this out the door, so will 7.0 community)
Thanks!
-B
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Am i ready to root?

Are you ready to root your phone!?
I am writing this out do to the amount of people who seem to start doing things on their phones without understanding what it is they're really doing.
Now you might say "I know I know exad, I root many phoen, I want 2 show peopel how smrt I am! I custumize everything and maek it lewk cool!" But there's really quite a bit of risk associate with the rooting process and even afterwards! Here, I will explain some of the common terms and risks associated with rooting, it will be like an index of knowledge I've accumulated being here on XDA.
So first off, what is root? Why is it dangerous?
I will tell you very directly, if you do not know exactly what root is, and/or how to manage access, you are not at all ready to root.
Root is a term to mean Administrative Access. Meaning you have full control over the software of your phone and it's system files. When you are given root access, you can alter any system files. This can obviously be damaging. Perhaps you trust yourself not to do anything crazy or destructive, which I think is the case for most people but often, root access is given to third party apps! So what can an app with root access do with your phone technically?.. Well, ANYTHING IT'S DEVELOPER wants. Overclock your CPU, create a backdoor to your phone, pull/steal personal information. The sky's the limit.
*This is a work in reprogress* More content will continue to be added until I feel this is complete."
Nice write up exad
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I agree. Very nice.
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Thanks guys! Means a lot coming from two top notch contributers as yourselves!
Yup.....very nice. I have been doing this for so Iong I had forgotten why. :thumbup:
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This Is great...unfortunately 90% of new people won't see or read this.. most new people search "att one x root"
No. Thank you sir. I haven't thought about the basics in a long time. Been to busy just flashing away lol.
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a box of kittens said:
This Is great...unfortunately 90% of new people won't see or read this.. most new people search "att one x root"
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There, that should help that! If it helps at least 1 person, it'll have been worth it.
exad said:
There, that should help that! If it helps at least 1 person, it'll have been worth it.
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We can only hope. Good job!
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I was thinking of doing a write up, but with work and army, I have no time. As you can see I am constantly on the app. However, this is awesome. I wish I had this when I started a few months ago. I just learned on my own. Also the android slang guide helped too.
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I wrote up something like this a while ago but decided not to post it because noobs never read these things. I may just throw it up in General.
Great work I will add it to my FAQ
Thanks for all your help, unfortunately I am one of those noobs who had been studying the root process for just about a week and thought I had a firm grasp on the concept. Fortunately for me I haven't done anything yet to brick my phone this is definitely a humbling experience haha -heads back to the forums to learn some more- :good:
Hmm not sure why this doesn't have more recognition... It took me months to figure this crap out. With a little experience, this guide could turn a total noob into a competant android rooter in a week or so. I remember my first posts on XDA *shudders*. So.... consider this a BUMPITY-BUMP
EDIT: That said, I know the first place many people go is general (that's what I did) so maybe this would get more views by the people who actually need it in general.
I would have loved this when I was rooting
Thanks for this. I've already rooted my phone and had to find much of this information on my own. It's nice to see it all in one place.
-RB
It's been a while since I've rooted a phone so I came here from another guide to refresh my memory a bit.
This thread is a joke, right? One of the more useless threads I've seen.
Organized_Chaos said:
It's been a while since I've rooted a phone so I came here from another guide to refresh my memory a bit.
This thread is a joke, right? One of the more useless threads I've seen.
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no I rage quit a few months back and deleted it all. I can rewrite it but people don't read anymore anyway (judging by Q&A)
exad said:
no I rage quit a few months back and deleted it all. I can rewrite it but people don't read anymore anyway (judging by Q&A)
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I came here through the link in FAQ! Too bad you deleted it
I can understand not updating because few people read this post but why actually delete it?

CVE-2014-0973: Possible Bootloader Unlock?

A new CVE was found yesterday pertaining to the Little Kernel bootloader, which is closely related to the Samsung bootloader. This CVE would allow us to load our own images and possibly unlock the bootloader permanently. There is a patch for it; however, first looks suggest that the S5 bootloader may not be patched if it is exploitable. The link below explains the CVE and includes the link for the patch.
https://www.codeaurora.org/projects...arsing-during-boot-image-authentication-leads
Feel free to discuss this. However, please follow the forum rules, and only discuss bootloader subjects on this thread.
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If this is something that's confirmed from another Dev would be awesome if they or @geohot can exploit this as well, and I would be willing to pay more money towards this for an unlocked BL.
Dennisg34 said:
If this is something that's confirmed from another Dev would be awesome if they or @geohot can exploit this as well, and I would be willing to pay more money towards this for an unlocked BL.
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I was hoping to maybe get @djrbliss involved. He unlocked the S4 bootloader. But I'm not sure how busy he is.
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Someone start a bounty? I'd be willing to donate as I did for root.
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typxyt said:
Someone start a bounty? I'd be willing to donate as I did for root.
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No need for that yet, as this isn't confirmed if it's related to us.
Little side note,.....You know its funny how the community works. On one had, 2 months ago we had one of the most secured phones on the market. Then we had a community up in arms about not having root bootloader unlock etc etc. Not so much up in arms maybe but upset root didn't come as quick as it did. Fast forward 1 month, people learning to live without root, people giving up all hope and dumping the device, people getting further frustrated, and many people looking into any exploit found to see if it can be done for us. And then another month later we get root and everything that happened before hand is gone....people learnign to live without it - rooted, people who gave up - rooted, those who were frustrated - rooted and can finally sleep at night.
Now something like this comes up.....
It sounds like it may work just based on the CVE description, but im not sure how much it pertains to the S5. I'm happy with root and man if this worked the flood gates will truly open.
Wow the community has picked up alotttttt since root has been obtained. I can only imagine the potential this phone has with a cm based rom *starts to drool at the thought* and to think I was one of those who was about to ditch the s5 and switch to the m8. I sincerely thank every developer putting effort into making this dream a reality. If it weren't so hard for me to find a job right now I would be donating like crazy to everybody involved.
Idk if starting a bounty for everything: root, safestrap, and bootloader is really a good idea. I mean I get it for some stuff like root, obviously that was needed but do you guys really want to have to buy every single mod? maybe we should cool our heels a bit enjoy root and see what comes our way before we start opening up our wallets, you can always donate after the fact.
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Dennisg34 said:
No need for that yet, as this isn't confirmed if it's related to us.
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davidstre said:
Idk if starting a bounty for everything: root, safestrap, and bootloader is really a good idea. I mean I get it for some stuff like root, obviously that was needed but do you guys really want to have to buy every single mod? maybe we should cool our heels a bit enjoy root and see what comes our way before we start opening up our wallets, you can always donate after the fact.
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I agree 100%.
davidstre said:
Idk if starting a bounty for everything: root, safestrap, and bootloader is really a good idea. I mean I get it for some stuff like root, obviously that was needed but do you guys really want to have to buy every single mod? maybe we should cool our heels a bit enjoy root and see what comes our way before we start opening up our wallets, you can always donate after the fact.
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Never thought we'd need a bounty, just as you said to donate to whoever could find the exploit for an unlocked BL. SS would be next no matter what, with rumors he's currently looking into it for us, but what we really need is a dev to see this and see if this is anything special, or like with the bounty thread, just a bunch of nothing. I will agree with you here, for once
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davidstre said:
Idk if starting a bounty for everything: root, safestrap, and bootloader is really a good idea. I mean I get it for some stuff like root, obviously that was needed but do you guys really want to have to buy every single mod? maybe we should cool our heels a bit enjoy root and see what comes our way before we start opening up our wallets, you can always donate after the fact.
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I agree. I'm happy that geohot got the bounty(and a thousand thanks to the man!!!), but let's not jump the gun on this one. I'm no dev so I have no idea on this, but I think that the past 2 months shows that if we're just patient then it will come. The bounty pages are a huge hassle for moderators and the whole concept is a little iffy if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, I pledged and will be donating on Friday. But I think if we are just patient and donate to the devs like we should be anyway, everything will work out. This phone is too popular not to get devs working on it.
Again, a million thanks to all the devs that have made my tinkering dreams come true(a full computer to tinker with any time in my pocket... priceless). If I'm out of line here, then just ignore me. But I can't wait to see if this exploit pans out!!!
davidstre said:
Idk if starting a bounty for everything: root, safestrap, and bootloader is really a good idea. I mean I get it for some stuff like root, obviously that was needed but do you guys really want to have to buy every single mod? maybe we should cool our heels a bit enjoy root and see what comes our way before we start opening up our wallets, you can always donate after the fact.
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I agree. I don't want to start another bounty. If people want to donate to whoever figures it out, if it is figured out, then that's awesome. They support the devs who put a lot of time into this kind of stuff. But a bounty shouldn't be one of the first things started for unlocking/rooting a phone.
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before we get to excited, has anyone privately reached out to one of the devs to see if this is even reasonable to do with the GS5?
This would be way too awesome
Energized from SM-G900V
probably the quickest path to croms would be chain-loading instead of dicking around unlocking the boot-loader and risking a hardbrick
also can we not discuss easily patched exploits on the public boards ... come on people this is how stuff gets patched
Legitsu said:
probably the quickest path to croms would be chain-loading instead of dicking around unlocking the boot-loader and risking a hardbrick
also can we not discuss easily patched exploits on the public boards ... come on people this is how stuff gets patched
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Well with root (as long as the SDM apk is removed) we don't have to worry about Samsung/VZW forcing a patch on us.. so this isn't that big of a problem anymore. :good:
MrHyde03 said:
Well with root (as long as the SDM apk is removed) we don't have to worry about Samsung/VZW forcing a patch on us.. so this isn't that big of a problem anymore. :good:
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What about people who buy the phone after they've patched? If they don't know what to patch they probably won't invest the time into figuring it out.
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FlyinLulz said:
What about people who buy the phone after they've patched? If they don't know what to patch they probably won't invest the time into figuring it out.
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Even if Samsung has their own source tree for lk/aboot, it's wouldn't be surprising that (a) they already know about this and (b) they might have patched it already in their own sources. The real question is if it's patched in the binary that's on the phone.. and the way to figure that out is to disassemble the code knowing what you're looking for. And no, I do not care to do this.. I'm not qualified to.. because I know people will ask
it really doesn't matter what the bootloader is the kernel as far as I know doesn't have a signature check enforced even if it does you could write a chain--loader to get around it then its just a matter of
stock bootloader > stock kernel > our kernel > our rom
of course writing the code and making the necessary modifications to /system and /data are complicated at best foolhardy at worst
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What about people who buy the phone after they've patched? If they don't know what to patch they probably won't invest the time into figuring it out.
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Same could be said about those who buy the phone after Samsung patches the root vulnerability. Unfortunately, touch luck.

Xda app sucks compared to tapatalk

I hate this app. It sucks, big time. You would think Android developers, when removing support for something that worked well would have given us something of better quality. Not stopped support and given us this mess. Why can't I just jump to the newest post? Why do I need to navigate the entire thread? Ugh
jmtjr278 said:
I hate this app. It sucks, big time. You would think Android developers, when removing support for something that worked well would have given us something of better quality. Not stopped support and given us this mess. Why can't I just jump to the newest post? Why do I need to navigate the entire thread? Ugh
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For those feedback there's a thread in the About xda-developers section. And they didn't removed support, it's because the forum moved to Xenforo, so it doesn't work the way it used to internally. Tapatalk would need an update to work, and rn this isn't a priority.
Now I know, the new app is mostly a webview app and stuff, but since it's the only one that works rn I'll take it, especially when this app has a good notification system (XDA Labs never notified me).
If you're still not to a fan of this app, the mobile website work well too
Have a good day
Thanks for the insight. Mod, please delete thread.
jmtjr278 said:
I hate this app. It sucks, big time. You would think Android developers, when removing support for something that worked well would have given us something of better quality. Not stopped support and given us this mess. Why can't I just jump to the newest post? Why do I need to navigate the entire thread? Ugh
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There's definitely room for improvement and I believe its being worked on, but why not post suggestions to the proper thread?
adrman said:
There's definitely room for improvement and I believe its being worked on, but why not post suggestions to the proper thread?
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I agree. I would like my post removed, as stated.
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I agree. I would like my post removed, as stated.
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Sorry. Not seeing the removal request (Firefox). Guess there's another tweak to the new forum software. Cheers!

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