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Hello all,
I have had my HTC Inspire 4G for a few days now. I am completely new to smart phones but have figured my way around using apps, the internet and changing my screen's wallpaper.
I see that the phone comes with tons of useless apps that I want to get rid of and I heard about "rooting" my phone.
Whats is rooting anyway? What are the pros and cons?
How can you trust the person that made the root program etc
also are there any useful websites I should know of? is this the premier android forum? are there any others out there
It sounds like you oughtta do some googlin'. There are a number of guides and articles that you can read over that will answer your initial questions. Try this one:
http://www.androidcentral.com/what-rooting
Probably the two most important things you need to know are: search for answers to your questions before you ask them publicly, and follow directions to the letter. After that, things will go pretty smoothly for you.
Perhaps you overlooked the stickied guide in this general section of the forum?
Guide to rooting and flashing by user Mudknot2005.
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tisel said:
Hello all,
I have had my HTC Inspire 4G for a few days now. I am completely new to smart phones but have figured my way around using apps, the internet and changing my screen's wallpaper.
I see that the phone comes with tons of useless apps that I want to get rid of and I heard about "rooting" my phone.
Whats is rooting anyway? What are the pros and cons?
How can you trust the person that made the root program etc
also are there any useful websites I should know of? is this the premier android forum? are there any others out there
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In a nutshell, "root" is the superuser of a unix system. Like Administrator on windows, only even more powerful. The phone runs a linux OS so at the core it is unix-like. "rooting" can mean a lot of things, but basically, it is getting sufficient privileges on your phone to be able to read/write whatever you want and from there, change how the phone behaves.
If you do decide to root i suggest using bubbys one click. I know it reads scary, but its actually very easy. There is even a vid linked to it to show you better. Good luck!
ashies7 said:
If you do decide to root i suggest using bubbys one click. I know it reads scary, but its actually very easy. There is even a vid linked to it to show you better. Good luck!
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Actually, Hack Kit V11 is simpler now.
ashies7 said:
If you do decide to root i suggest using bubbys one click. I know it reads scary, but its actually very easy. There is even a vid linked to it to show you better. Good luck!
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but how can you trust people who wrote the program? could it be a virus in disguise.
im just wondering
tisel said:
but how can you trust people who wrote the program? could it be a virus in disguise.
im just wondering
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If you're that concerned about it, I don't recommend rooting your phone.
FWIW, I do malware cleanup/puter repair as a side gig and I haven't come across anything on here that wasn't legit.
Use the Ace Hack Kit and follow the instructions to a T. If you hit a bump in the road, search first then ask if you cannot find a definitive or concise resolution for your issue.
Anyone who is new to smartphones (or just android period) i don't recommend you rooting your phone..
I say learn about it some more. watch some videos, read some threads, then read them again.. and again.. to it sticks in your head..
then i suggest you should root.. it sucks to see thread saying "help i bricked my phone!"
YoungAceAtlanta said:
Anyone who is new to smartphones (or just android period) i don't recommend you rooting your phone..
I say learn about it some more. watch some videos, read some threads, then read them again.. and again.. to it sticks in your head..
then i suggest you should root.. it sucks to see thread saying "help i bricked my phone!"
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+1 I Second that. I'd like root my phone, but since I'm in no hurry, I'm on here reading and learning about it. I'll prolly root after December if AT&T doesn't let me utilize my upgrade to the newest HTC device they have then, as I paid for this via off contract pricing. I had heard from Desire HD owners, that it is tricky to root given HTC's signed bootloaders. Hence the, what looks to a noob, as an overwhelming and potentially complicated process. Like the others have said just read all you can about it, and when your ready to take the plunge, follow the instructions word for word, and you shouldn't have any problems.
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+1 I Second that. I'd like root my phone, but since I'm in no hurry, I'm on here reading and learning about it. I'll prolly root after December if AT&T doesn't let me utilize my upgrade to the newest HTC device they have then, as I paid for this via off contract pricing. I had heard from Desire HD owners, that it is tricky to root given HTC's signed bootloaders. Hence the, what looks to a noob, as an overwhelming and potentially complicated process. Like the others have said just read all you can about it, and when your ready to take the plunge, follow the instructions word for word, and you shouldn't have any problems.
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In reply to you, as well as in general, to the OP...
Well, I paid off contract as well, waited before rooting, not because I was scared of "bricking" my phone or because I didn't "trust these people" because it might "be a virus," I wanted to get familiar with how the phone operates in an unmodified state -- to get a baseline.
Really, it's not that big of a deal to root. You aren't going to brick your phone. The only true bricks (will not even power up) that I've heard of happened with some people who ran a certain function within a certain version of clockwork recovery that had a bad bug.
Everything else is a "soft brick," meaning it looks scary, but it's actually fixable.
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Scott_S said:
In reply to you, as well as in general, to the OP...
Well, I paid off contract as well, waited before rooting, not because I was scared of "bricking" my phone or because I didn't "trust these people" because it might "be a virus," I wanted to get familiar with how the phone operates in an unmodified state -- to get a baseline.
Really, it's not that big of a deal to root. You aren't going to brick your phone. The only true bricks (will not even power up) that I've heard of happened with some people who ran a certain function within a certain version of clockwork recovery that had a bad bug.
Everything else is a "soft brick," meaning it looks scary, but it's actually fixable.
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True. I completely agree. When I root I'm gonna do it right.
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ZeroRilix said:
True. I completely agree. When I root I'm gonna do it right.
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An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, for sure.
When you do finally root, you'll ask yourself why you didn't do it sooner.
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I think people should see what the stock ROM experience is like for about a month or so before rooting and flashing another ROM, especially if this is your first Android phone.
Has anyone used these that are adverstised on craigslist? I am to much of a noob to try any rooting process other that a one click so i thought maybe i should let a "pro" do it. I was just wondering if anyone has had negative experiences
microdot said:
Has anyone used these that are adverstised on craigslist? I am to much of a noob to try any rooting process other that a one click so i thought maybe i should let a "pro" do it. I was just wondering if anyone has had negative experiences
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honestly dont.
Its not worth any cost they charge to root your phone. I did a one click method for Droid og, and a three click process for thunderbolt. They work fine, and I know there is a debate on auto or manual root, regardless they both work.
I was like you when I first rooted my droid and was scared of bricking the phone etc. If you follow the steps and just go slow and make sure you have everything downloaded properly, rooting is easy.
What three step process are you refering too? I looked at this post ..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616 which seems to be the method you have to do after that ota update and do be honest that is way over my head.
What about the one click method posted on droid life not too long ago.
.http://www.droid-life.com/2011/03/26/another-one-click-root-method-available-for-htc-thunderbolt/
..would that work?
microdot said:
Has anyone used these that are adverstised on craigslist? I am to much of a noob to try any rooting process other that a one click so i thought maybe i should let a "pro" do it. I was just wondering if anyone has had negative experiences
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We were all noobs at once. read up and Get R done. You can do it.
I did a 3 click method as well. It was before the ota so I can't speak for that link. It was more involved than the unrevoked program for Dinc but it wasn't hard and the best part is iit includes all the adb drivers and files in one neat. Exe
microdot said:
Has anyone used these that are adverstised on craigslist? I am to much of a noob to try any rooting process other that a one click so i thought maybe i should let a "pro" do it. I was just wondering if anyone has had negative experiences
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dude. the method is not hard at ALL. it is all literally copy paste.. if you are too retarded to do that, then dont root your phone at all...
ddarvish said:
dude. the method is not hard at ALL. it is all literally copy paste.. if you are too retarded to do that, then dont root your phone at all...
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That was a little harsh. You were a noob once too, so cut the OP some slack.
Back to topic. I have never used a craigslist ad for rooting & I don't know anyone that has, so I can't vouch for it. But rooting your own phone is the best way to make sure you don't get scammed. Plus, you won't have to rely on someone else every time you get a new phone. Rooting the Tbolt is not hard, you just gotta read everything you can find about it beforehand. If you're still unsure after reading xda forums, watch some youtube demos. If you MUST rely on someone else to root, I would get a knowledgeable friend or coworker to do it before contacting some guy from craigslist. A friend would do it for free, anyway
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Rooting services on Craigslist? You must be thinking of Craigslist Australia.
Nah, I see jailbreaking/rooting ads on houston craigslist all the time. Actually its proly an easy way to make some cash, but I personally wouldn't pay anyone to jack with my phone
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Whoosh.....
mike.s said:
Whoosh.....
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Lol... Anyways, to the op... Rooting is really not that difficult if you just do your homework and follow directions to a tee. I would never allow some random dude on Craigslist to even touch my phone. What would you do if you came across a problem (which eventually you will) and had no idea how to fix it because you couldn't even root your own phone? My suggestion would be to study up and use the manual root method with adb. You will benefit the most from this and learn a lot along the way. Just don't pay somebody else to do of for you, its not that difficult.
I'll root your phone for free. Don't expect it back though. :$
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just watch a you tube video
My friend paid like 20 bucks through paypal to root his Evo Supersonic. It was through one of those cell phone shops.. It worked for him but you should just learn to do it yourself cause you are going to eventually need to learn how to do all this stuff for yourself.
ddarvish said:
dude. the method is not hard at ALL. it is all literally copy paste.. if you are too retarded to do that, then dont root your phone at all...
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Thank you for everyones input. I wont go the craigslist way and just do my homework like suggested. Maybe some dev comes up with a one click method for the ota version
Ddarvis...why so hostile? Did that post make you feel like a big boy? Did you have your big boy pants on? Do you wake up in the mornin' and say, "I'm puttin on my big boy pants. Look, I'm wearin' a belt. I got big boy pants on
The problem with letting someone root your phone is you don't learn how to use the necessary tools to flash roms, themes, create backups and the like. You don't grasp the concept of what could go wrong and what will go wrong.
The biggest thing to know is not how to root your phone but how to fix it when it breaks.
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ibsk8 said:
The problem with letting someone root your phone is you don't learn how to use the necessary tools to flash roms, themes, create backups and the like. You don't grasp the concept of what could go wrong and what will go wrong.
The biggest thing to know is not how to root your phone but how to fix it when it breaks.
sent from a sweet paper weight.
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This.
If I had easy rooted and not taken the time to learn my way around ADB I would have a brick right now. I douched up while I was upgrading to the new Gingersense radio and knowing my way around ADB saved my ass. If you root without knowing what is going on you are asking for a very expensive mistake.
I have to agree with sublimaze... I too see these posts in Houston. This is my first Android and in the beginning, I too was nervous about root process. The 3 click method is actually really easy as long as you take your time and be careful. I went from knowing nothing to rooting 4 tbolts and bringing mine back from a frozen splash screen. Just read man, ask questions and be careful. Not all of us will flame you for asking questions. Good luck bro.
bking_soda said:
I have to agree with sublimaze... I too see these posts in Houston. This is my first Android and in the beginning, I too was nervous about root process. The 3 click method is actually really easy as long as you take your time and be careful. I went from knowing nothing to rooting 4 tbolts and bringing mine back from a frozen splash screen. Just read man, ask questions and be careful. Not all of us will flame you for asking questions. Good luck bro.
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Thank you, i will def study and only do it then when i am comfortable that i have it down. I cant afford any mistakes. Bking_soda, mind if i pm you with question when that time comes. Having done 4 tbolts you are obviously an expert
Definitly worth learning to do yourself, keep in mind there will be mistakes as you go forward, yes it is possible to brick your phone but very hard to a do. Read read read and when you think you have it figured out read some more. The more you do yourself the more you'll understand when you do get a bad flash what you need to do. Dont worry It can almost always be recovered. And most of the smart people in these forums will help and not flame you for asking for it.
Hello all,
I need a sbf rom for the atrix2.
We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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916x10 said:
We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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not a waste of time, just no way of flashing it right now
916x10 said:
We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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sbf is NOT a custom rom. its a stock flash.
i dont think you fully understand the bootloader on the atrix....please keep the negativity towards the devs out of here.
As of right now all we really need to use is factory reset if something gets messed up. Custom Roms sounds nice but I'm more interested in overclock this puppy and adding some extra lock screens. *sits and waits patiently*
cheetablaze said:
As of right now all we really need to use is factory reset if something gets messed up. Custom Roms sounds nice but I'm more interested in overclock this puppy and adding some extra lock screens. *sits and waits patiently*
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i think at the moment, as SBF is more important than a custom rom. we NEED the ability to go back to factory...
Sbf is step 1 toward getting the Atrix 2 development friendly.
I laughed out loud when I saw your post on the official moto forum, cheetablaze, it was a good try though.
We don't typically provide these files to the consumers as they are not customer friendly.
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More like THEY'RE not customer friendly.
I was messaging the admin all night and he wouldn't do it. Said he could give it up. But there's no reason to yet. Maybe after an update is officially released he will give it up. I'll keep complaining also lol
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I was messaging the admin all night and he wouldn't do it. Said he could give it up. But there's no reason to yet. Maybe after an update is officially released he will give it up. I'll keep complaining also lol
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i was impressed that they immediately locked the thread as well.
Pirateghost said:
sbf is NOT a custom rom. its a stock flash.
i dont think you fully understand the bootloader on the atrix....please keep the negativity towards the devs out of here.
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Did I say it was a custom rom or did you assume thats what I meant? What did I say negatively about any dev? I'll be the first to admit I dont know jack about the bootloader, thats no secret, hence my thread asking why its necessary to unlock it to dev roms for it. Thats all.
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What is this bashing people at xda ? Atrix 2 owners need a sbf and respectable member for providing the sbf is daywalker04, pm him and ask for the sbf. He will ask for some files from your phone and then he will try to locate the file for all of us.
Please keep nice and dont let anyone ruin atrix2 forums like they did at the original atrix forums.
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Did I say it was a custom rom or did you assume thats what I meant? What did I say negatively about any dev? I'll be the first to admit I dont know jack about the bootloader, thats no secret, hence my thread asking why its necessary to unlock it to dev roms for it. Thats all.
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re-read your comment. if it wasnt meant to be derogatory, then fine. you made it sound as if devs owed you a rom, even if it was stock based. i dont think you understand what devving a rom entails. please stop comparing this to the sony you used to have. i can tell you from my experience with motorola, htc, and samsung that none of them are similar....im going to assume that sony would be different as well. just because something works for one device does NOT mean it will work for another. same reason we couldnt get anything really decent over on the atrix until the BL was unlocked. every device is different, some even within the same manufacturer dont act the same as another within. patience, please. i dont know if you noticed, but there arent exactly a ton of developers coming over to the atrix2 side of things right now. we will work with what we have. now that i have my vivid, i can start focusing on tearing up the atrix 2.
916x10 said:
We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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Semseddin said:
What is this bashing people at xda ? Atrix 2 owners need a sbf and respectable member for providing the sbf is daywalker04, pm him and ask for the sbf. He will ask for some files from your phone and then he will try to locate the file for all of us.
Please keep nice and dont let anyone ruin atrix2 forums like they did at the original atrix forums.
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agreed. i came over here from atrix forums in hopes that we could have a nice community without all the BS that took place over there.
i will talk to daywalker04 and see if he can assist.
Pirateghost said:
agreed. i came over here from atrix forums in hopes that we could have a nice community without all the BS that took place over there.
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I agree totally!!!
the x10 forums were horrible.
Pirateghost said:
re-read your comment. if it wasnt meant to be derogatory, then fine. you made it sound as if devs owed you a rom, even if it was stock based. i dont think you understand what devving a rom entails. please stop comparing this to the sony you used to have. i can tell you from my experience with motorola, htc, and samsung that none of them are similar....im going to assume that sony would be different as well. just because something works for one device does NOT mean it will work for another. same reason we couldnt get anything really decent over on the atrix until the BL was unlocked. every device is different, some even within the same manufacturer dont act the same as another within. patience, please. i dont know if you noticed, but there arent exactly a ton of developers coming over to the atrix2 side of things right now.
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LMAO. You come at me sideways based on your assumption and/or misinterpretation and the best you could come up with is "fine"? Not even an attempt at an apology or acceptance of your inappropriate reaction? Wow, ok. Seems kind of counterproductive to your wanting a peaceful forum with no bashing when you're the one coming in pointing the finger at me for doing something I didnt even do. And then you cant even man up and own the fact that you overreacted and apologize for doing so. Sweet!
I've already made it clear my level of understanding of not only the Android system but also the Atrix 2, not gonna rehash that.
Check my resume here on xda, I have never been one of those guys who felt like any developer owed me anything! I'm always appreciative of anything I have ever gotten from them and have even donated to a couple (unsolicited) to show my appreciation for their work so for you to even insinuate anything other ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS BASED YOUR MISINTERPRETATION AND/OR MISUNDERSTANDING of what I said is offensive and disrespectful.
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LMAO. You come at me sideways based on your assumption and/or misinterpretation and the best you could come up with is "fine"? Not even an attempt at an apology or acceptance of your inappropriate reaction? Wow, ok. Seems kind of counterproductive to your wanting a peaceful forum with no bashing when you're the one coming in pointing the finger at me for doing something I didnt even do. And then you cant even man up and own the fact that you overreacted and apologize for doing so. Sweet!
I've already made it clear my level of understanding of not only the Android system but also the Atrix 2, not gonna rehash that.
Check my resume here on xda, I have never been one of those guys who felt like any developer owed me anything! I'm always appreciative of anything I have ever gotten from them and have even donated to a couple (unsolicited) to show my appreciation for their work so for you to even insinuate anything other ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS BASED YOUR MISINTERPRETATION AND/OR MISUNDERSTANDING of what I said is offensive and disrespectful.
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take 5 minutes.
go read your post again from the perspective of someone thats working on a rom already, then come back here and tell me it didnt sound bad. it sounded resentful that nobody had spit out any roms for you to play with yet.
its people like you that make me want to get rid of the phone or keep all my work to myself.
im done with this conversation. i dont owe you an apology or a rom. from now on, all my work will be elsewhere for the a2...
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take 5 minutes.
go read your post again from the perspective of someone thats working on a rom already, then come back here and tell me it didnt sound bad. it sounded resentful that nobody had spit out any roms for you to play with yet.
its people like you that make me want to get rid of the phone or keep all my work to myself.
im done with this conversation. i dont owe you an apology or a rom. from now on, all my work will be elsewhere for the a2...
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There was NOTHING negative about me saying apparrently the devs feel its a waste of time to dev a stock based rom. How you can conclude that I feel like a dev owes me a rom or that im being negative towards them is beyond me.
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Don't bite the hand that feeds you. xD He's really the only guy working toward anything major for the A2 and you're post did kinda sound like it's an expectation that a rom be made for us.
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Don't bite the hand that feeds you. xD He's really the only guy working toward anything major for the A2 and you're post did kinda sound like it's an expectation that a rom be made for us.
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Sorry guy, he's nowhere near that important to me. If I said "koriflame doesnt like milk", does that sound like I meant that you should like milk?
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916x10 said:
Sorry guy, he's nowhere near that important to me.
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i hope you do get a dev that will put up with your attitude, because i sure as hell wont.
good luck fellas!
Are you ready to root your phone!?
I am writing this out do to the amount of people who seem to start doing things on their phones without understanding what it is they're really doing.
Now you might say "I know I know exad, I root many phoen, I want 2 show peopel how smrt I am! I custumize everything and maek it lewk cool!" But there's really quite a bit of risk associate with the rooting process and even afterwards! Here, I will explain some of the common terms and risks associated with rooting, it will be like an index of knowledge I've accumulated being here on XDA.
So first off, what is root? Why is it dangerous?
I will tell you very directly, if you do not know exactly what root is, and/or how to manage access, you are not at all ready to root.
Root is a term to mean Administrative Access. Meaning you have full control over the software of your phone and it's system files. When you are given root access, you can alter any system files. This can obviously be damaging. Perhaps you trust yourself not to do anything crazy or destructive, which I think is the case for most people but often, root access is given to third party apps! So what can an app with root access do with your phone technically?.. Well, ANYTHING IT'S DEVELOPER wants. Overclock your CPU, create a backdoor to your phone, pull/steal personal information. The sky's the limit.
*This is a work in reprogress* More content will continue to be added until I feel this is complete."
Nice write up exad
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I agree. Very nice.
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Thanks guys! Means a lot coming from two top notch contributers as yourselves!
Yup.....very nice. I have been doing this for so Iong I had forgotten why. :thumbup:
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This Is great...unfortunately 90% of new people won't see or read this.. most new people search "att one x root"
No. Thank you sir. I haven't thought about the basics in a long time. Been to busy just flashing away lol.
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This Is great...unfortunately 90% of new people won't see or read this.. most new people search "att one x root"
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There, that should help that! If it helps at least 1 person, it'll have been worth it.
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There, that should help that! If it helps at least 1 person, it'll have been worth it.
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We can only hope. Good job!
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I was thinking of doing a write up, but with work and army, I have no time. As you can see I am constantly on the app. However, this is awesome. I wish I had this when I started a few months ago. I just learned on my own. Also the android slang guide helped too.
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I wrote up something like this a while ago but decided not to post it because noobs never read these things. I may just throw it up in General.
Great work I will add it to my FAQ
Thanks for all your help, unfortunately I am one of those noobs who had been studying the root process for just about a week and thought I had a firm grasp on the concept. Fortunately for me I haven't done anything yet to brick my phone this is definitely a humbling experience haha -heads back to the forums to learn some more- :good:
Hmm not sure why this doesn't have more recognition... It took me months to figure this crap out. With a little experience, this guide could turn a total noob into a competant android rooter in a week or so. I remember my first posts on XDA *shudders*. So.... consider this a BUMPITY-BUMP
EDIT: That said, I know the first place many people go is general (that's what I did) so maybe this would get more views by the people who actually need it in general.
I would have loved this when I was rooting
Thanks for this. I've already rooted my phone and had to find much of this information on my own. It's nice to see it all in one place.
-RB
It's been a while since I've rooted a phone so I came here from another guide to refresh my memory a bit.
This thread is a joke, right? One of the more useless threads I've seen.
Organized_Chaos said:
It's been a while since I've rooted a phone so I came here from another guide to refresh my memory a bit.
This thread is a joke, right? One of the more useless threads I've seen.
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no I rage quit a few months back and deleted it all. I can rewrite it but people don't read anymore anyway (judging by Q&A)
exad said:
no I rage quit a few months back and deleted it all. I can rewrite it but people don't read anymore anyway (judging by Q&A)
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I came here through the link in FAQ! Too bad you deleted it
I can understand not updating because few people read this post but why actually delete it?
A new CVE was found yesterday pertaining to the Little Kernel bootloader, which is closely related to the Samsung bootloader. This CVE would allow us to load our own images and possibly unlock the bootloader permanently. There is a patch for it; however, first looks suggest that the S5 bootloader may not be patched if it is exploitable. The link below explains the CVE and includes the link for the patch.
https://www.codeaurora.org/projects...arsing-during-boot-image-authentication-leads
Feel free to discuss this. However, please follow the forum rules, and only discuss bootloader subjects on this thread.
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If this is something that's confirmed from another Dev would be awesome if they or @geohot can exploit this as well, and I would be willing to pay more money towards this for an unlocked BL.
Dennisg34 said:
If this is something that's confirmed from another Dev would be awesome if they or @geohot can exploit this as well, and I would be willing to pay more money towards this for an unlocked BL.
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I was hoping to maybe get @djrbliss involved. He unlocked the S4 bootloader. But I'm not sure how busy he is.
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Someone start a bounty? I'd be willing to donate as I did for root.
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typxyt said:
Someone start a bounty? I'd be willing to donate as I did for root.
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No need for that yet, as this isn't confirmed if it's related to us.
Little side note,.....You know its funny how the community works. On one had, 2 months ago we had one of the most secured phones on the market. Then we had a community up in arms about not having root bootloader unlock etc etc. Not so much up in arms maybe but upset root didn't come as quick as it did. Fast forward 1 month, people learning to live without root, people giving up all hope and dumping the device, people getting further frustrated, and many people looking into any exploit found to see if it can be done for us. And then another month later we get root and everything that happened before hand is gone....people learnign to live without it - rooted, people who gave up - rooted, those who were frustrated - rooted and can finally sleep at night.
Now something like this comes up.....
It sounds like it may work just based on the CVE description, but im not sure how much it pertains to the S5. I'm happy with root and man if this worked the flood gates will truly open.
Wow the community has picked up alotttttt since root has been obtained. I can only imagine the potential this phone has with a cm based rom *starts to drool at the thought* and to think I was one of those who was about to ditch the s5 and switch to the m8. I sincerely thank every developer putting effort into making this dream a reality. If it weren't so hard for me to find a job right now I would be donating like crazy to everybody involved.
Idk if starting a bounty for everything: root, safestrap, and bootloader is really a good idea. I mean I get it for some stuff like root, obviously that was needed but do you guys really want to have to buy every single mod? maybe we should cool our heels a bit enjoy root and see what comes our way before we start opening up our wallets, you can always donate after the fact.
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Dennisg34 said:
No need for that yet, as this isn't confirmed if it's related to us.
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davidstre said:
Idk if starting a bounty for everything: root, safestrap, and bootloader is really a good idea. I mean I get it for some stuff like root, obviously that was needed but do you guys really want to have to buy every single mod? maybe we should cool our heels a bit enjoy root and see what comes our way before we start opening up our wallets, you can always donate after the fact.
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I agree 100%.
davidstre said:
Idk if starting a bounty for everything: root, safestrap, and bootloader is really a good idea. I mean I get it for some stuff like root, obviously that was needed but do you guys really want to have to buy every single mod? maybe we should cool our heels a bit enjoy root and see what comes our way before we start opening up our wallets, you can always donate after the fact.
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Never thought we'd need a bounty, just as you said to donate to whoever could find the exploit for an unlocked BL. SS would be next no matter what, with rumors he's currently looking into it for us, but what we really need is a dev to see this and see if this is anything special, or like with the bounty thread, just a bunch of nothing. I will agree with you here, for once
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davidstre said:
Idk if starting a bounty for everything: root, safestrap, and bootloader is really a good idea. I mean I get it for some stuff like root, obviously that was needed but do you guys really want to have to buy every single mod? maybe we should cool our heels a bit enjoy root and see what comes our way before we start opening up our wallets, you can always donate after the fact.
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I agree. I'm happy that geohot got the bounty(and a thousand thanks to the man!!!), but let's not jump the gun on this one. I'm no dev so I have no idea on this, but I think that the past 2 months shows that if we're just patient then it will come. The bounty pages are a huge hassle for moderators and the whole concept is a little iffy if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, I pledged and will be donating on Friday. But I think if we are just patient and donate to the devs like we should be anyway, everything will work out. This phone is too popular not to get devs working on it.
Again, a million thanks to all the devs that have made my tinkering dreams come true(a full computer to tinker with any time in my pocket... priceless). If I'm out of line here, then just ignore me. But I can't wait to see if this exploit pans out!!!
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Idk if starting a bounty for everything: root, safestrap, and bootloader is really a good idea. I mean I get it for some stuff like root, obviously that was needed but do you guys really want to have to buy every single mod? maybe we should cool our heels a bit enjoy root and see what comes our way before we start opening up our wallets, you can always donate after the fact.
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I agree. I don't want to start another bounty. If people want to donate to whoever figures it out, if it is figured out, then that's awesome. They support the devs who put a lot of time into this kind of stuff. But a bounty shouldn't be one of the first things started for unlocking/rooting a phone.
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before we get to excited, has anyone privately reached out to one of the devs to see if this is even reasonable to do with the GS5?
This would be way too awesome
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probably the quickest path to croms would be chain-loading instead of dicking around unlocking the boot-loader and risking a hardbrick
also can we not discuss easily patched exploits on the public boards ... come on people this is how stuff gets patched
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probably the quickest path to croms would be chain-loading instead of dicking around unlocking the boot-loader and risking a hardbrick
also can we not discuss easily patched exploits on the public boards ... come on people this is how stuff gets patched
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Well with root (as long as the SDM apk is removed) we don't have to worry about Samsung/VZW forcing a patch on us.. so this isn't that big of a problem anymore. :good:
MrHyde03 said:
Well with root (as long as the SDM apk is removed) we don't have to worry about Samsung/VZW forcing a patch on us.. so this isn't that big of a problem anymore. :good:
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What about people who buy the phone after they've patched? If they don't know what to patch they probably won't invest the time into figuring it out.
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FlyinLulz said:
What about people who buy the phone after they've patched? If they don't know what to patch they probably won't invest the time into figuring it out.
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Even if Samsung has their own source tree for lk/aboot, it's wouldn't be surprising that (a) they already know about this and (b) they might have patched it already in their own sources. The real question is if it's patched in the binary that's on the phone.. and the way to figure that out is to disassemble the code knowing what you're looking for. And no, I do not care to do this.. I'm not qualified to.. because I know people will ask
it really doesn't matter what the bootloader is the kernel as far as I know doesn't have a signature check enforced even if it does you could write a chain--loader to get around it then its just a matter of
stock bootloader > stock kernel > our kernel > our rom
of course writing the code and making the necessary modifications to /system and /data are complicated at best foolhardy at worst
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What about people who buy the phone after they've patched? If they don't know what to patch they probably won't invest the time into figuring it out.
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Same could be said about those who buy the phone after Samsung patches the root vulnerability. Unfortunately, touch luck.