CVE-2014-0973: Possible Bootloader Unlock? - Verizon Galaxy S 5 General

A new CVE was found yesterday pertaining to the Little Kernel bootloader, which is closely related to the Samsung bootloader. This CVE would allow us to load our own images and possibly unlock the bootloader permanently. There is a patch for it; however, first looks suggest that the S5 bootloader may not be patched if it is exploitable. The link below explains the CVE and includes the link for the patch.
https://www.codeaurora.org/projects...arsing-during-boot-image-authentication-leads
Feel free to discuss this. However, please follow the forum rules, and only discuss bootloader subjects on this thread.
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If this is something that's confirmed from another Dev would be awesome if they or @geohot can exploit this as well, and I would be willing to pay more money towards this for an unlocked BL.

Dennisg34 said:
If this is something that's confirmed from another Dev would be awesome if they or @geohot can exploit this as well, and I would be willing to pay more money towards this for an unlocked BL.
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I was hoping to maybe get @djrbliss involved. He unlocked the S4 bootloader. But I'm not sure how busy he is.
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Someone start a bounty? I'd be willing to donate as I did for root.
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typxyt said:
Someone start a bounty? I'd be willing to donate as I did for root.
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No need for that yet, as this isn't confirmed if it's related to us.

Little side note,.....You know its funny how the community works. On one had, 2 months ago we had one of the most secured phones on the market. Then we had a community up in arms about not having root bootloader unlock etc etc. Not so much up in arms maybe but upset root didn't come as quick as it did. Fast forward 1 month, people learning to live without root, people giving up all hope and dumping the device, people getting further frustrated, and many people looking into any exploit found to see if it can be done for us. And then another month later we get root and everything that happened before hand is gone....people learnign to live without it - rooted, people who gave up - rooted, those who were frustrated - rooted and can finally sleep at night.
Now something like this comes up.....
It sounds like it may work just based on the CVE description, but im not sure how much it pertains to the S5. I'm happy with root and man if this worked the flood gates will truly open.

Wow the community has picked up alotttttt since root has been obtained. I can only imagine the potential this phone has with a cm based rom *starts to drool at the thought* and to think I was one of those who was about to ditch the s5 and switch to the m8. I sincerely thank every developer putting effort into making this dream a reality. If it weren't so hard for me to find a job right now I would be donating like crazy to everybody involved.

Idk if starting a bounty for everything: root, safestrap, and bootloader is really a good idea. I mean I get it for some stuff like root, obviously that was needed but do you guys really want to have to buy every single mod? maybe we should cool our heels a bit enjoy root and see what comes our way before we start opening up our wallets, you can always donate after the fact.
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Dennisg34 said:
No need for that yet, as this isn't confirmed if it's related to us.
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davidstre said:
Idk if starting a bounty for everything: root, safestrap, and bootloader is really a good idea. I mean I get it for some stuff like root, obviously that was needed but do you guys really want to have to buy every single mod? maybe we should cool our heels a bit enjoy root and see what comes our way before we start opening up our wallets, you can always donate after the fact.
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I agree 100%.

davidstre said:
Idk if starting a bounty for everything: root, safestrap, and bootloader is really a good idea. I mean I get it for some stuff like root, obviously that was needed but do you guys really want to have to buy every single mod? maybe we should cool our heels a bit enjoy root and see what comes our way before we start opening up our wallets, you can always donate after the fact.
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Never thought we'd need a bounty, just as you said to donate to whoever could find the exploit for an unlocked BL. SS would be next no matter what, with rumors he's currently looking into it for us, but what we really need is a dev to see this and see if this is anything special, or like with the bounty thread, just a bunch of nothing. I will agree with you here, for once
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davidstre said:
Idk if starting a bounty for everything: root, safestrap, and bootloader is really a good idea. I mean I get it for some stuff like root, obviously that was needed but do you guys really want to have to buy every single mod? maybe we should cool our heels a bit enjoy root and see what comes our way before we start opening up our wallets, you can always donate after the fact.
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I agree. I'm happy that geohot got the bounty(and a thousand thanks to the man!!!), but let's not jump the gun on this one. I'm no dev so I have no idea on this, but I think that the past 2 months shows that if we're just patient then it will come. The bounty pages are a huge hassle for moderators and the whole concept is a little iffy if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, I pledged and will be donating on Friday. But I think if we are just patient and donate to the devs like we should be anyway, everything will work out. This phone is too popular not to get devs working on it.
Again, a million thanks to all the devs that have made my tinkering dreams come true(a full computer to tinker with any time in my pocket... priceless). If I'm out of line here, then just ignore me. But I can't wait to see if this exploit pans out!!!

davidstre said:
Idk if starting a bounty for everything: root, safestrap, and bootloader is really a good idea. I mean I get it for some stuff like root, obviously that was needed but do you guys really want to have to buy every single mod? maybe we should cool our heels a bit enjoy root and see what comes our way before we start opening up our wallets, you can always donate after the fact.
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I agree. I don't want to start another bounty. If people want to donate to whoever figures it out, if it is figured out, then that's awesome. They support the devs who put a lot of time into this kind of stuff. But a bounty shouldn't be one of the first things started for unlocking/rooting a phone.
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before we get to excited, has anyone privately reached out to one of the devs to see if this is even reasonable to do with the GS5?

This would be way too awesome
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probably the quickest path to croms would be chain-loading instead of dicking around unlocking the boot-loader and risking a hardbrick
also can we not discuss easily patched exploits on the public boards ... come on people this is how stuff gets patched

Legitsu said:
probably the quickest path to croms would be chain-loading instead of dicking around unlocking the boot-loader and risking a hardbrick
also can we not discuss easily patched exploits on the public boards ... come on people this is how stuff gets patched
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Well with root (as long as the SDM apk is removed) we don't have to worry about Samsung/VZW forcing a patch on us.. so this isn't that big of a problem anymore. :good:

MrHyde03 said:
Well with root (as long as the SDM apk is removed) we don't have to worry about Samsung/VZW forcing a patch on us.. so this isn't that big of a problem anymore. :good:
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What about people who buy the phone after they've patched? If they don't know what to patch they probably won't invest the time into figuring it out.
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What about people who buy the phone after they've patched? If they don't know what to patch they probably won't invest the time into figuring it out.
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Even if Samsung has their own source tree for lk/aboot, it's wouldn't be surprising that (a) they already know about this and (b) they might have patched it already in their own sources. The real question is if it's patched in the binary that's on the phone.. and the way to figure that out is to disassemble the code knowing what you're looking for. And no, I do not care to do this.. I'm not qualified to.. because I know people will ask

it really doesn't matter what the bootloader is the kernel as far as I know doesn't have a signature check enforced even if it does you could write a chain--loader to get around it then its just a matter of
stock bootloader > stock kernel > our kernel > our rom
of course writing the code and making the necessary modifications to /system and /data are complicated at best foolhardy at worst

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What about people who buy the phone after they've patched? If they don't know what to patch they probably won't invest the time into figuring it out.
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Same could be said about those who buy the phone after Samsung patches the root vulnerability. Unfortunately, touch luck.

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1 click root app?

Is there any 1 click root apps for the thunderbolt yet like universal root or z4 type app?
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No. There are "easy" root apps for Windows (and some scripts for Mac/Linux) available...
I am not sure if there will be a one-click app for quite some time. If you read the process for rooting you will understand that you are required to downgrade the firmware in order to obtain permanent root (through an exploit).
I don't think that there should be any 1 click apps for rooting. These devs spend alot of time setting stuff up for us if you want to use their stuff then learn how to do the basics atleast. Besides the more that learns how to do "technical" stuff the stronger the community will be.
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I don't think that there should be any 1 click apps for rooting. These devs spend alot of time setting stuff up for us if you want to use their stuff then learn how to do the basics atleast. Besides the more that learns how to do "technical" stuff the stronger the community will be.
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I disagree. I understand and believe that people should learn what they are doing before they begin but there are some people out there who just want to remove bloat. Nothing else. And for those people, I think a 1 click root should be available. I went through probably 2 or 3 hours learning how and why to do the root method on this phone after doing the same thing on my old phone (Droid X) because I plan on doing so much with it I want to know exactly what is going on. People like me, should go through the comprehensive root so we have far less "I flashed ____ and bricked my phone what do I do?!?!?!?!1" but for people who just want to remove bloat or use tethering should once again not have to spend hours figuring out what adb is/does.
And even if everyone in the community learns the "technichal" stuff many of them aren't going to help out anyone else. They are going to root, ROM, and GTFO.
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I disagree. I understand and believe that people should learn what they are doing before they begin but there are some people out there who just want to remove bloat. Nothing else. And for those people, I think a 1 click root should be available. I went through probably 2 or 3 hours learning how and why to do the root method on this phone after doing the same thing on my old phone (Droid X) because I plan on doing so much with it I want to know exactly what is going on. People like me, should go through the comprehensive root so we have far less "I flashed ____ and bricked my phone what do I do?!?!?!?!1" but for people who just want to remove bloat or use tethering should once again not have to spend hours figuring out what adb is/does.
And even if everyone in the community learns the "technichal" stuff many of them aren't going to help out anyone else. They are going to root, ROM, and GTFO.
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All I was doing is stating my opinion which still stands at if u don't want to learn stuff leave it stock. And even with a 1 click root app there is still a chance for stuff to go wrong. Nothing in this world is always predictable.
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All I was doing is stating my opinion which still stands at if u don't want to learn stuff leave it stock. And even with a 1 click root app there is still a chance for stuff to go wrong. Nothing in this world is always predictable.
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I wasn't arguing with you just as you said I was stating my opinion.
And the difference between running through an hour long rooting process and a 20 minute 1 click root is, well it's quite obvious what the difference is. Also, we know nothing is perfect that's why everything out there (ROMs, kernels, rooting methods, etc) all have liability warnings, the same as 1 click roots.
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All I was doing is stating my opinion which still stands at if u don't want to learn stuff leave it stock. And even with a 1 click root app there is still a chance for stuff to go wrong. Nothing in this world is always predictable.
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I don't really have a desire to learn ADB so I won't, but I will still root my phone.
Actually, if I absolutely HAD to learn to use ADB to root, I probably would, then I would promptly forget what I've learned since I'd probably never use it again, until it came time to root my next phone. So I don't see the point, just respectfully disagreeing and sharing my opinion
I use a MAC and a PC and I've built PC's, but I really don't care to learn how all the background s/ware stuff works, but I can add components like a mad-woman.
Thats exactly what I want to do. Just remove the tons of crap that came built in. A one click root solution would be a lifesaver.
The current root methods are way too complicated for me.
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Thats exactly what I want to do. Just remove the tons of crap that came built in. A one click root solution would be a lifesaver.
The current root methods are way too complicated for me.
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would this help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009969
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005292
dsvoda said:
I don't think that there should be any 1 click apps for rooting. These devs spend alot of time setting stuff up for us if you want to use their stuff then learn how to do the basics atleast. Besides the more that learns how to do "technical" stuff the stronger the community will be.
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Yeah, totally... and we should stop using push button car ignitions and even key starts. People should have to poor gas in their carburetors and hand pump up the pressure and crack start it. This way people will better understand how the engine works in case they need to work on it after a break down.
What about lighters and stoves!? 1 click to start a fire, wtf? 2 stick method I say, do people even realize what fire is and where it comes from these days?
Than there's Velcro shoes... omg!
hogowner said:
would this help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009969
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005292
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Thanks for that. The second link looks promising. I'll need to try that tonight.
For the love of God... not another effing debate about one-click solutions and learning ADB. Noob this, noob that... developer this, developer that.
The ultimate point is that nobody is entitled to anything... but once a solution has been developed in an open community, nobody is prohibited from using it based upon their level of experience.
I personally feel that it is beneficial to know how the root method works, but there are people who could care less and just want to root their device without fully understanding the process/risks/technicalities.
The bottom line is that they are free to do this and they are "allowed" to use one-click root solutions without having technical knowledge or understanding what ADB is!
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Well what good is root at this point? The radio has issues, the camcorder app is bunked, txt app is wishy washy, ringtones for specific contacts switches, etc. I am waiting on root at this point! I have rooted every android phone I have had and this one just seems to flake with root at this time. I still don't understand wth it's doing! If I had a clue, I would write a one click. Just makes it less of a head ache if you have more than one tb to do. And you won't have noobs pop up asking wth did I do wrong. And yes I'm a noob too, but I also read b4 I venture into the unknown. I still say if u wanna learn go buy a book and if ya don't understand it then ask. Why not just put a noob section on each device forum? Let people help the ones that can't do it on their own. Heck make it a mandatory $10 donation fee if ya gotta have someone show you what to do. Seems like no one here has ever had to ask for help. I fix my father's car, not because I really want to. Just because if he does it, it won't ever run again. He ain't got a clue! Some people just aren't able to understand things like others. Be nice and quit bashing noobs.
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Well what good is root at this point? The radio has issues, the camcorder app is bunked, txt app is wishy washy, ringtones for specific contacts switches, etc. I am waiting on root at this point! I have rooted every android phone I have had and this one just seems to flake with root at this time. I still don't understand wth it's doing! If I had a clue, I would write a one click. Just makes it less of a head ache if you have more than one tb to do. And you won't have noobs pop up asking wth did I do wrong. And yes I'm a noob too, but I also read b4 I venture into the unknown. I still say if u wanna learn go buy a book and if ya don't understand it then ask. Why not just put a noob section on each device forum? Let people help the ones that can't do it on their own. Heck make it a mandatory $10 donation fee if ya gotta have someone show you what to do. Seems like no one here has ever had to ask for help. I fix my father's car, not because I really want to. Just because if he does it, it won't ever run again. He ain't got a clue! Some people just aren't able to understand things like others. Be nice and quit bashing noobs.
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Even rooting w/o flashing a new custom ROM is causing issues?
From what I have seen even just straight root causes issues. I really prefer root without flashing a lot of extra. Simple and to the point. Gives me access to files without the head ache of something going wrong.
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From what I have seen even just straight root causes issues. I really prefer root without flashing a lot of extra. Simple and to the point. Gives me access to files without the head ache of something going wrong.
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I rooted to stock and ran that for almost a week before flashing a rom. I had no issues whatsoever.
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Is it assumed that there will never be a true easy 1-click root solution for this phone?
I am on my last week of eligibility to return this phone and if there will not be the same kind of support for this phone from the dev community, then I would like to know so that I can return it.
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Is it assumed that there will never be a true easy 1-click root solution for this phone?
I am on my last week of eligibility to return this phone and if there will not be the same kind of support for this phone from the dev community, then I would like to know so that I can return it.
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There is already a ton of support and development for this phone. There are several ROMS and kernels already, and the root process is very easy to do. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to learn how ADB works. Frankly, if you feel like you deserve to have superuser access to a *IX operating system then damnit you should know what the hell you're doing; that's just my 2 cents though. I wouldn't just turn over root access to my server rack to someone who doesn't understand and appreciate the responsibility of unfettered access to the operating system.
That being said, I am of the mindset that everyone should take the opportunity to learn how these systems work, and would gladly help anyone willing to do so. I have loved Unix based operating systems ever since I got my hands on the first release of Slackware Linux, love the BSDs, and have a lot of fun using Solaris.
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There is already a ton of support and development for this phone. There are several ROMS and kernels already, and the root process is very easy to do. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to learn how ADB works. Frankly, if you feel like you deserve to have superuser access to a *IX operating system then damnit you should know what the hell you're doing; that's just my 2 cents though. I wouldn't just turn over root access to my server rack to someone who doesn't understand and appreciate the responsibility of unfettered access to the operating system.
That being said, I am of the mindset that everyone should take the opportunity to learn how these systems work, and would gladly help anyone willing to do so. I have loved Unix based operating systems ever since I got my hands on the first release of Slackware Linux, love the BSDs, and have a lot of fun using Solaris.
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Sorry but I'm just looking for something like unrevoked for the T-bolt. I only need it to remove all the bloat, not trying to do anything too fancy.
MoxJr said:
Sorry but I'm just looking for something like unrevoked for the T-bolt. I only need it to remove all the bloat, not trying to do anything too fancy.
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I understand totally wanting to get the bloat off the phone; that's something I think every owner wants, lol.

Z4root

I used z4root on my Droid x to root anyone try on the TB with luck.
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Cporcelli said:
I used z4root on my Droid x to root anyone try on the TB with luck.
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I haven't tried it or heard of anyone attempting it, there are some easy root options here but personally I always recommend rooting the hard way first, it's rather simple and helps you keep your adb skills up to par.
It may be just me but I like to know how I got from point A to point B so I know exactly where something went wrong. z4root is a great app for people who have already rooted their device and have lost root, however it gets a lot of people where they don't belong with absolutely no knowledge of adb and then come to the community for help but don't know what went wrong making it near to impossible for us to correct, which they then file an insurance claim and send back the device they broke, which in my opinion is one of the main reasons some manufacturers are locking down hard.
Sorry for the rant! However I would NOT attempt to use z4root. Follow the guides here, it's untested and could have adverse affects on your device.
No. Don't even. Stop. Use the root method that is OFFICIALLY supported A.K.A. the manual way.
Please.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...he-htc-thunderbolt-and-unlock-its-bootloader/
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No. Don't even. Stop. Use the root method that is OFFICIALLY supported A.K.A. the manual way.
Please.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...he-htc-thunderbolt-and-unlock-its-bootloader/
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No. Don't even. Stop. Use the root method that is OFFICIALLY supported A.K.A. the manual way.
Please.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...he-htc-thunderbolt-and-unlock-its-bootloader/
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That's awesome, i didn't know that method was OFFICIALLY supported. I'll just call Verizon and have the CSR help me with it.
s3gfault said:
That's awesome, i didn't know that method was OFFICIALLY supported. I'll just call Verizon and have the CSR help me with it.
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woot!
s3gfault said:
That's awesome, i didn't know that method was OFFICIALLY supported. I'll just call Verizon and have the CSR help me with it.
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OK, I was being nice but screw it. Dude, do me a favor and shove your thumb up your ass and spin on it. I did my research before posting. You should have done yours. Enjoy.
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That's awesome, i didn't know that method was OFFICIALLY supported. I'll just call Verizon and have the CSR help me with it.
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If you're trying to look like a witty person you failed. Last time I checked this was XDA, I thought that here one XDA we hacked phones, removed bloatware, themed them, and had our own SUPPORTED methods for certain things that have been tried and tested. Ninety-eight percent of things on this website would not be supported by VZW due to the fact most of things void your warranty or go against TOS and since you're here, and you are posting in a thread about z4root I can only assume you know that (and that's giving you the benefit of the doubt that you might have the slightest bit of knowledge about what we do here).
I'm not really sure what it is that compels people to post moronic arbitrary comments in hopes of getting a rise out of people rather than posting something useful. ProTekk did his homework and gave the OP a link to the supported method for root here in the Thunderbolt forums, if you have an issue with people being helpful I suggest you move along and find a more fitting environment where people are more inclined to feed the trolls this isn't /b/ for god sakes.
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Not vulnerable.
Thanks to the people with actual replies. Will try the "official " method.
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Looking For Volunteers To Test BL Unlock (you could get money)

Hi, so jimbridgman and I have been working on the Boot Loader unlock stuff, and may have an idea. It seems to easy to be true but is worth a shot.
Now, this means we need someone to test it. Here is what we are asking for:
1. at least 1 person to test, we will not need more than 1 person for this initially, but if it fails we will likely need more so feel free to volunteer anyways and we can renegotiate the terms for a later test
2. you must have access to a computer with fastboot and be familiar with how to use it.
3. You must be familiar with how to get yourself out of a general softbrick, such as a bootloop.
4. You will be paid 20% or $150 of the bootloader unlock bounty (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837363), whichever is lower if and only if this method of unlocking succeeds.
5. If this fails, which it most likely will, You will almost definitely be HARD BRICKED. That means you now own an expensive paper weight. That said you will likely be able to get a replacement through AT&T if you are with them so make sure you know your options.
6. You must be on ICS or Be willing and know how to upgrade to it.
7. Your phone must be a U.S. AT&T model
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You must also fully understand that we do not take responsibility for what happens to your phone and we are well aware that it will likely brick. you CANNOT hold us or anyone else responsible if you are unable to restore or get a replacement.
That said we will do our best to help you unbrick if possible, but it likely will not be.
Please reply here if you are interested and Jim or I will PM you with more info. feel free to ask any questions you have here as well.
I'm in. PM me in you need to, I have nothing to lose, and (hopefully) everything to gain! :good:
Thanks lkrasner!
So this will test to see if we are even able to use that BL we found, just so that everyone has an inkling of what we are doing.
If your still looking for volunteers Im in
I have fastboot on both windows and ubuntu
I have recovered from many soft bricks
I am willing to sacrafice my phone if I need to
I've got to do a bit of charging - didn't realize I let my phone power off with no juice, so I'll report back in about an hour or so... Sorry.
Edit: I will PM Jim and lkrasner my results. Stay tuned guys.
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I'm down. PM me if it's still on the table. You might know me better as Gonz013 from IRC, or the guy with the unrootable phone...
lkrasner said:
Hi, so jimbridgman and I have been working on the Boot Loader unlock stuff, and may have an idea. It seems to easy to be true but is worth a shot.
Now, this means we need someone to test it. Here is what we are asking for:
You must also fully understand that we do not take responsibility for what happens to your phone and we are well aware that it will likely brick. you CANNOT hold us or anyone else responsible if you are unable to restore or get a replacement.
That said we will do our best to help you unbrick if possible, but it likely will not be.
Please reply here if you are interested and Jim or I will PM you with more info. feel free to ask any questions you have here as well.
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Good luck gentleman....may the gods be with you.
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Tuned in here .....
Godspeed gentlemen...and good luck.
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I'll try it if you need another tester.
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Thanks guys. We are still tweaking. We did a test run today and it did not brick nor unlock. So... back to the drawing board.
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I'm in when y'all are done with tweaking. Building a Linux server for my daughter's school. It's going too good I have to have some excitement over the weekend.
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Can you tell us what you tried or a simplified run down?
mind sharing the details & result?
Without getting too involved in details, basically the awesome developers here made up a flashable .zip using the NS Bootloader. Flashed fine, no brick, but as Jim mentioned above, still locked. Also, as mentioned by Jim, he and the other guys are still tweaking things, so please... EVERYONE... stay patient and don't start getting all worked up just yet. I'll leave the rest of the updates to him, lkrasner, alteredlikeness, and/or cogeary.
And guys, please don't explode this thread with asking for updates, when they come, you will be informed as soon as they are discovered. Just stay calm, patient, and keep fingers and toes crossed...
Thanks for letting us know what's going on. I'm just an info junkie. Its all for the bigger picture. Plus when I talk about it with people like my pops who's been using Linux and embedded systems since the beginning I can give a little run down. Who knows maybe a fresh idea might pop out. Again thanks for the update and all the work.
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Once you have flashed have you tried doing the fastboot commands to attempt to retrieve the device id and unlock keys that are needed for the Moto unlock bootloader site? Maybe the NS Bootloader is locked but has the ability to be unlocked via this site. Just a thought.
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Once you have flashed have you tried doing the fastboot commands to attempt to retrieve the device id and unlock keys that are needed for the Moto unlock bootloader site? Maybe the NS Bootloader is locked but has the ability to be unlocked via this site. Just a thought.
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I was thinking the same thing.
I am no expert, but that seems highly unlikely. considering that moto doesn't support unlocking our device, and it is their web site you need to get the codes from.

Am i ready to root?

Are you ready to root your phone!?
I am writing this out do to the amount of people who seem to start doing things on their phones without understanding what it is they're really doing.
Now you might say "I know I know exad, I root many phoen, I want 2 show peopel how smrt I am! I custumize everything and maek it lewk cool!" But there's really quite a bit of risk associate with the rooting process and even afterwards! Here, I will explain some of the common terms and risks associated with rooting, it will be like an index of knowledge I've accumulated being here on XDA.
So first off, what is root? Why is it dangerous?
I will tell you very directly, if you do not know exactly what root is, and/or how to manage access, you are not at all ready to root.
Root is a term to mean Administrative Access. Meaning you have full control over the software of your phone and it's system files. When you are given root access, you can alter any system files. This can obviously be damaging. Perhaps you trust yourself not to do anything crazy or destructive, which I think is the case for most people but often, root access is given to third party apps! So what can an app with root access do with your phone technically?.. Well, ANYTHING IT'S DEVELOPER wants. Overclock your CPU, create a backdoor to your phone, pull/steal personal information. The sky's the limit.
*This is a work in reprogress* More content will continue to be added until I feel this is complete."
Nice write up exad
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I agree. Very nice.
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Thanks guys! Means a lot coming from two top notch contributers as yourselves!
Yup.....very nice. I have been doing this for so Iong I had forgotten why. :thumbup:
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This Is great...unfortunately 90% of new people won't see or read this.. most new people search "att one x root"
No. Thank you sir. I haven't thought about the basics in a long time. Been to busy just flashing away lol.
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a box of kittens said:
This Is great...unfortunately 90% of new people won't see or read this.. most new people search "att one x root"
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There, that should help that! If it helps at least 1 person, it'll have been worth it.
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There, that should help that! If it helps at least 1 person, it'll have been worth it.
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We can only hope. Good job!
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I was thinking of doing a write up, but with work and army, I have no time. As you can see I am constantly on the app. However, this is awesome. I wish I had this when I started a few months ago. I just learned on my own. Also the android slang guide helped too.
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I wrote up something like this a while ago but decided not to post it because noobs never read these things. I may just throw it up in General.
Great work I will add it to my FAQ
Thanks for all your help, unfortunately I am one of those noobs who had been studying the root process for just about a week and thought I had a firm grasp on the concept. Fortunately for me I haven't done anything yet to brick my phone this is definitely a humbling experience haha -heads back to the forums to learn some more- :good:
Hmm not sure why this doesn't have more recognition... It took me months to figure this crap out. With a little experience, this guide could turn a total noob into a competant android rooter in a week or so. I remember my first posts on XDA *shudders*. So.... consider this a BUMPITY-BUMP
EDIT: That said, I know the first place many people go is general (that's what I did) so maybe this would get more views by the people who actually need it in general.
I would have loved this when I was rooting
Thanks for this. I've already rooted my phone and had to find much of this information on my own. It's nice to see it all in one place.
-RB
It's been a while since I've rooted a phone so I came here from another guide to refresh my memory a bit.
This thread is a joke, right? One of the more useless threads I've seen.
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It's been a while since I've rooted a phone so I came here from another guide to refresh my memory a bit.
This thread is a joke, right? One of the more useless threads I've seen.
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no I rage quit a few months back and deleted it all. I can rewrite it but people don't read anymore anyway (judging by Q&A)
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no I rage quit a few months back and deleted it all. I can rewrite it but people don't read anymore anyway (judging by Q&A)
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I came here through the link in FAQ! Too bad you deleted it
I can understand not updating because few people read this post but why actually delete it?

[Q] Question about possibility of community bounty on 4.3 stock eploit

I know this is probably a long-shot but I've been tempted to throw a childish fit ever since I updated to 4.3. I'd killed my ROM while trying to flash CM11 and I had to go back to stock in order to put things right. Little did I know, Verizon had a sneaky trick up their sleave. I hadn't kept up to date on the news for my phone and I took the 4.3 update. I bet this sounds really familiar for many people. I'm personally willing to contribute USD50 to a community-driven bounty on the exploitation of this new lock because I'm fed up with terrible battery life and many other things. I'm personally not sure how to set this up or organize it. I'm just interested to see if there's a demand large enough for this.
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I know this is probably a long-shot but I've been tempted to throw a childish fit ever since I updated to 4.3. I'd killed my ROM while trying to flash CM11 and I had to go back to stock in order to put things right. Little did I know, Verizon had a sneaky trick up their sleave. I hadn't kept up to date on the news for my phone and I took the 4.3 update. I bet this sounds really familiar for many people. I'm personally willing to contribute USD50 to a community-driven bounty on the exploitation of this new lock because I'm fed up with terrible battery life and many other things. I'm personally not sure how to set this up or organize it. I'm just interested to see if there's a demand large enough for this.
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Go and put that money up for the Verizon s4 unlock bounty. Chances are if they get a exploit we will be able to use it or modify it for our use. But I can tell you right now a bounty for the s3 will be a waist of time.
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I hate to say it but even the s4 bounty is a waist of time because it had a exploit that got patched. But not enough people updated to that patched boot loader to really care.
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Go and put that money up for the Verizon s4 unlock bounty. Chances are if they get a exploit we will be able to use it or modify it for our use. But I can tell you right now a bounty for the s3 will be a waist of time.
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I hate to say it but even the s4 bounty is a waist of time because it had a exploit that got patched. But not enough people updated to that patched boot loader to really care.
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I mean if you really want to know, there's over a $6000 bounty (Verizon only), I think AT&T is also over $5000 to unlock the bootloader. Trust me, anybody who's capable of doing it is either working on it already or simply can't do it. If the bootloader gets cracked on one of those devices, the method would probably trickle down to the s3. Also, people pledge money all the time but never pay up. Developers know this and don't necessarily work on the exploit simply for the money.
The developers who are trying to work on this wouldn't post relevant information anyway in a public forum. Any progress on this would be completely hidden from anybody to ensure the integrity of the exploit.
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I know when the s3 came out I put up a fund me project and the money would go to Adam Outler to get our boot loader unlock and or work around. He came through but I don't think he'd revisit our phone when the issue is so small. Most of us on here are unlocked and will never take the OTA.
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I know when the s3 came out I put up a fund me project and the money would go to Adam Outler to get our boot loader unlock and or work around. He came through but I don't think he'd revisit our phone when the issue is so small. Most of us on here are unlocked and will never take the OTA.
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To be clear, Adam did not unlock the S3 bootloader. Nobody did. Adam was provided a leaked bootloader from a pre-release S3. He even said so in his bootloader unlock thread in the original dev section. Not taking anything away from Adam because I and countless others are entirely thankful for that feat.
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To be clear, Adam did not unlock the S3 bootloader. Nobody did. Adam was provided a leaked bootloader from a pre-release S3. He even said so in his bootloader unlock thread in the original dev section. Not taking anything away from Adam because I and countless others are entirely thankful for that feat.
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Right, he did package together CASUAL which is still being used right now I think? Which at the time was a great tool because it was cross-platform. Someone on here donated all $600 to adam which I thought was cool.
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To be clear, Adam did not unlock the S3 bootloader. Nobody did. Adam was provided a leaked bootloader from a pre-release S3. He even said so in his bootloader unlock thread in the original dev section. Not taking anything away from Adam because I and countless others are entirely thankful for that feat.
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I was going to say exactly that! You ninja'd me to it.
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Right, he did package together CASUAL which is still being used right now I think? Which at the time was a great tool because it was cross-platform. Someone on here donated all $600 to adam which I thought was cool.
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What does this have anything to do with unlocking a bootloader?
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tonu42 said:
Right, he did package together CASUAL which is still being used right now I think? Which at the time was a great tool because it was cross-platform. Someone on here donated all $600 to adam which I thought was cool.
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Yea CASUAL is still used but for 4.1.2 and older of course. Really cool tool.
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I was going to say exactly that! You ninja'd me to it.
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hahaha great minds think alike :good::good:
Well, from the looks of it I'm going to have to either buy a new phone or sit tight. The only reason I'm hesitant in changing phones is because the S3 has a much larger apreture than any other phone I've seen xD However, I'd love to find something to help my battery life. Maybe it's time to look at XPosed.Thanks everybody.

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