Any In Depth guides on how to use VR with the XZ Premium for 4K Content? - Sony Xperia XZ Premium Questions & Answers

With a 4K display, I wonder why there are only 2 threads asking about VR, (one opened by me) and why there are no guides at all? I mean there are lot of people who would like to buy for VR but don't wanna risk it because there are no proper information.
All i could gather is:
- you have first to change the native resolution of your android to 4K, for APPS.
- MXplayer shows 4K content. (I guess). and so does youtube. But still no one definitely answer is you can watch 4k 3D 360 videos with this device.
- Most apps dont support 4K so forget games in 4K. But no one says if the phone at least support 2k VR.
- Also no much information on which Headset is best compatible with this device.
- It is said everywhere that the LCD Screen response time is not fast enough for VR. Is this the same for videos, or is it just for games? Or is it even as big of a deal as they make it sound?
Aren't there any VR enthusiast who also has purchased a 4K display phone who could maybe clear some questions?
tnx

I can confirm that YouTube, MX Player, VLC and VRTV Player display 4K properly. For more information see my post in another thread.
And I was able to watch this YouTube video in 360° 3D mode with 2160s60 quality without any issue.
Sent from my G8142 using XDA Labs

This is a big factor that's got me interested in the XZP. Give Car's VR player a try. It seems to play videos for me that other VR video apps won't but I'm still on my Le Pro 3 so I can't test 4k myself. It's my go to headset video watching app (I like watching shows and movies this way). If it supports 4k, that'd be amazing!

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4K Dislpay?

Hey I wanna know that Sony's doing the same thing like they did with Z5 Premium?
Like this is 1080p by default but only when you open in gallery and maybe amazon prime video app triggers the 4K?
I remember Erika Griffin mentioned that you can change the resolution but another YouTuber said it's 1080p by default.
Erica's video (Watch at 3m4s)
Mathew's video (Watch at 2m17s)
I think you can toggle it manually, pretty sure I've understood that and it only makes sense.
Not that you should want it to run in 4k all day but for vr or something and actual 4k content.
x10Mark said:
I think you can toggle it manually, pretty sure I've understood that and it only makes sense.
Not that you should want it to run in 4k all day but for vr or something and actual 4k content.
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i want 4k in games ! is it not possible to render games in higher resulution ?
My understanding that the default to 1080P is a Android N default to save battery life, you can set it to 4K under display in system settings
chesterr said:
Hey I wanna know that Sony's doing the same thing like they did with Z5 Premium?
Like this is 1080p by default but only when you open in gallery and maybe amazon prime video app triggers the 4K?
I remember Erika Griffin mentioned that you can change the resolution but another YouTuber said it's 1080p by default.
Erica's video (Watch at 3m4s)
?t=3m4s
Mathew's video (Watch at 2m17s)
?t=2m17s
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You can change the resolution in the settings menu and if you choose 4K, all the contents will be shown in 4K, same thing with 1080P and 2K.
Alex2483 said:
You can change the resolution in the settings menu and if you choose 4K, all the contents will be shown in 4K, same thing with 1080P and 2K.
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Are you sure? I am waiting someone to confirm it. Someone who had the phone and used it.
chesterr said:
Are you sure? I am waiting someone to confirm it. Someone who had the phone and used it.
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Well I'm sure at 100% but if you want to wait soneone that have the phone, you must wait until June
Sadly
"Fingerprint recognition not available in the US
Defaults to FullHD screen resolution for anything other than native 4K content
Battery capacity is not stellar"
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xz_premium-review-1610.php
AGGevorgyan said:
Sadly
"Fingerprint recognition not available in the US
Defaults to FullHD screen resolution for anything other than native 4K content
Battery capacity is not stellar"
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xz_premium-review-1610.php
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Are you sure these guys even checked? Kinda sucks if it doesn't. I mean its something that really isn't needed. I owned the z5 premium and had it emulate 4k all the time with a kernel and then in the end just went back to stock but it its also something reviewers would target as an issue
I hope there will be simple hack to enable such a feature. This will be needed for example when you want to watch VR video with cardboard using custom app, even if content will be 4k by default app will not enable it.
Yea you can enable it to 2K 4K with abd. I just wanted to see if Sony had implemented to change the display res under the settings, Guess they did NOT.
Youtube now supports 4K resolution for the XZ Premium. That's what i like most!
https://youtu.be/Zdmc75gFx2A?t=17m25s
Katsigaros said:
Youtube now supports 4K resolution for the XZ Premium. That's what i like most!
https://youtu.be/Zdmc75gFx2A?t=17m25s
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Yea bro I saw this too awesome
I got another video confirming that youtube supports 4K option, which is nice.
No.
Nothing in Displaysettings - to switch the Resolution to 4k
Bad
Galaxy S8 has a switch Option between 1080 and 2k .......
Davimas said:
No.
Nothing in Displaysettings - to switch the Resolution to 4k
Bad
Galaxy S8 has a switch Option between 1080 and 2k .......
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You can try this method when you get the phone.
Plus I saw it in a video that Sony mentioned that they may include an option to change the resolution in future update. I think they should but I would just use it in 2K once I get the device.
yes i knew this adb trick from the old sony xperia 4k Handy, i make it so bevor i sell it, but this was not a good option, the apps/players for the VR 360 movies working bad, to small on the Display........you would not happy with this Settings
then Sony make a new 4K Handy, and what? Same fuc....k
4K only works in Sony Photo App and Sony Videoplayer........but this can not play 360 or 180 Videos corretly with motion, only still.
Techradar says:
"You won’t find a sharper screen on another smartphone, and unlike its 4K-toting predecessor you actually get the full resolution all the time. The Z5 Premium would only deliver the full 4K experience when you were watching video of the same resolution, whereas on the new Xperia XZ Premium it’s 3840 x 2160 all the way – from the home screen and browser to the app store and your social media profiles."
I think it is a mistake from Techradar, but what do you think, can it be true?
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/sony-xperia-xz-premium-review
Alex2483 said:
Well I'm sure at 100% but if you want to wait soneone that have the phone, you must wait until June
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There is no option to change the resolution
fiarfox888 said:
i want 4k in games ! is it not possible to render games in higher resulution ?
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You won't get higher resolution graphics in any game by changing the resolution to 4k. All you will do is zoom out really far making things really hard to see and the ui will be tiny. It would only be worth it in games that use proper scaling and there aren't many aaa games on Android that might do it. Buy a 4k phone for videos and photos. Don't expect people to quadruple their graphics production workload for such a niche gaming market.
AJHutchinson said:
There is no option to change the resolution
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if you check mods section of the XZ Premium forum, you will find a ''trick'' (by ADB) to change the resolution to native 4K, with this method everything will be displayed in native 4K resolution (really appreciate this mod), hope I helped !

Did you know that you can't watch Netflix and Amazon Video in HD? Now you do! :)

This one is ridiculous. Google Widevine Modular DRM on our phones is L3 - which means HD videos are not supported on this services! Guess it works with HBO GO the same way cause the quality is nothing to HD to be honest.
You can check it youself with this app .
Security level L3 - no HD. Needs to be L1 to work. This is pretty much Huawei's fault.
So please open your HiCare and send them feedback to update it!
Tweet - Facebook post on Huawei Mobile page would be nice too.
Honestly I dont see the problem AND really big difference between hd stream and normal 480p/720p. Especially taking in to the account that its 5.2 inch screen...
Its the same with Youtube, you would need to stick your face literally 10cm from the screen to see difference between SD and HD on such screen, because of compression that they use.
Normally people watch videos about 30-50cm from the phone and I can bet you that I could show you two movies one streamed sd other hd and you will have hard time to distinguish them from each other. Difference is visible when you read something, or need to focus on small details, but its not important in streamed movies.
Im of course with you to send them such feedback, because it should be there, sometimes you stream some stuff that have lots of details that you need to see, but I would be more happy to send feedback to google, netflix and amazon to optimize their stream compression that just suck.
I have lots of 480p videos on my phone and with proper compression they look better than some 1080 youtube videos...
Akinaro said:
Honestly I dont see the problem AND really big difference between hd stream and normal 480p/720p. Especially taking in to the account that its 5.2 inch screen...
Its the same with Youtube, you would need to stick your face literally 10cm from the screen to see difference between SD and HD on such screen, because of compression that they use.
Normally people watch videos about 30-50cm from the phone and I can bet you that I could show you two movies one streamed sd other hd and you will have hard time to distinguish them from each other. Difference is visible when you read something, or need to focus on small details, but its not important in streamed movies.
Im of course with you to send them such feedback, because it should be there, sometimes you stream some stuff that have lots of details that you need to see, but I would be more happy to send feedback to google, netflix and amazon to optimize their stream compression that just suck.
I have lots of 480p videos on my phone and with proper compression they look better than some 1080 youtube videos...
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Facepalm ???
Actually there is a difference. I am using HBO GO and the quality is bad compared to a phone that suports the HD streaming or my Laptop which is with a lot bigger screen... Still a flagship phone not supporting such a simple and needed thing is ridiculous.
Is it possible to change security level to L1 by root and how
zgfg said:
Is it possible to change security level to L1 by root and how
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Don't think it will be possible.

Android TV support for Ultra Wide Displays like WQHD 3440x1440

What is Android TV support for "irregular" display resolutions?
I cannot find the answer anywhere online so I turn to the experts. I found conflicting answers, most to the negative, but no definitive explanation.
The story:
I recently bought an ultra wide monitor (Samsung S34J550 with 21:9, 3440x1440 WQHD resolution) to work from home that I occasionally would like to use as a smart TV in the living room, without hooking a PC and HDMI cable to it. Currently I can see some Netflix movie in full screen when played from my PC via HDMI to the Samsung monitor. For convenience, I'm looking for a PC-less solution where I would remotely control the device. I'm ready to buy an Amazon Fire Stick 4K or any other Android TV device, or a ChromeCast as long as I can leverage the full ultra width for 21:9 movie playback.
Would any Android stick adapt to a WQHD resolution? Or only 4K sticks? Amazon Fire 4K? Google ChromeCast? None of the above? And if not, what are my options?
Alternatively, a lower 21:9 resolution would still fine with me for movie watching. Like 1/4 of full resolution: 1720x720.
TIA
Same
I have exactly the same situation, 3440x1440 display, and it is annoying to be forced to use a laptop for proper 21:9 watching experience.
Support for wide formats is needed for Android TV.
I am using Xiaomi's Xi Box S as it claimed to have support up to 4K resolutions. Unfortunately only regular 16:9 modes seem to be supported so have to use it at 1080p only.

Can i Watch 4k YouTube video on poco 3x?

good evening,
i wanted to kindly ask you if, with this device, i could see videos in 4k, for example on youtube (i read that on xiaomi mi 10 lite you see videos in 4k, but i am afraid of having ghost touching problem with that model ). as for LIVE VIEW inside GOOGLE MAPS, how does it behave? go jerky?
I await you and thank you very much, it is important
Hi. The 4k option doesn't show up for me. Not that it matters though. 6.6" display at 1080p resolution wouldn't make a difference anyways (except for huge increase in data usage). As for Google Maps live view it seems to be working just fine though to be honest I find it being a useless gimmick. Some old Nokia phones had a similar feature and it was just as useless back then as it is now.
FYI I use Vanced not thr stock YT app so it might be different there.
You can try to to look for Vanced Youtube
Like I said I use Vanced and even if you set 2160p as your preferred resolution there's no visual difference only in the amount of data pulled to play the video. On like a PC monitor or TV you might notice less compression so it might make sense to use a higher resolution than your display can support but on a tiny smartphone screen? Unless you absolutely have a need to burn through your data without any profit I'd say stay away from 4k.
Trying to watch a 4k or even a 2K video on a 1080p screen ? What's the point ?
You can't display more than effective screen pixels...

Possible to force 4k streaming on Android?

I know Android is likely limited to 1080p by widevine L1, but is there any way to force / trick Disney+, Netflix, Hulu, HBOMax and other streaming services currently serving low quality 1080p streams to Android phone / tablet users to serve proper 4k?
I get that most Android devices are FHD+ but they would still benefit hugely from 4k steams that are much higher bitrate, have much wider gamut color (bt.709 vs bt.2020) and more coherent HDR mapping.
I have an S22+ and a Tab S8 Ultra on 1gbps fiber. Watching 4k YouTube is awesome, but recent content like Obi-Wan on Disney+ or Love, Death & Robots on Netflix are an unbearably grainy low bitrate mess - an experience that's remarkably poor for a premium device. Worse than even 1080p streamed via edge/safari or a pc/mac desktop Disney+ app.
Is there any way to make the (non YouTube) streaming experience on Android less terrible?
I really wish there was a solution to this It's 2023 and it is shocking that YouTube is still the only app that can do this
Hello my friends. Havent we had any solution so far ? I have a google TV stick and I would like to force 4K or 2K instead of 1080p.

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