Also, turning on the lock screen hotword detection - will this destroy my battery life, or will it be negligible?
It´s nothingfor the Batterie. You can turn it allways on.
LooksLikeSony said:
It´s nothingfor the Batterie. You can turn it allways on.
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Erm... If our Z3 is "always listening", it cannot switch to "CPU sleep mode" as it's CPU is constantly busy with analyzing audio streams.
So there MUST be a noticeable impact on battery life.
Chefproll said:
Erm... If our Z3 is "always listening", it cannot switch to "CPU sleep mode" as its CPU is constantly busy with analyzing audio streams.
So there MUST be a noticeable impact on battery life.
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OK Google does not work when the display is off, so it can go into deep sleep. I use it and have not noticed significant battery drain
'Always' is a little misleading. It's only listening when the screen is on and unlocked.
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'Always' is a little misleading. It's only listening when the screen is on and unlocked.
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Not quite true. It is ALWAYS listening when the screen is on. Mine works even from the lockscreen, if you change the language to English US the options are enabled in the "OK Google" detection settings.
gregbradley said:
OK Google does not work when the display is off, so it can go into deep sleep. I use it and have not noticed significant battery drain
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Ah, I see !
Didn't have the chance of trying out myself, even after using "Ok Google everywhere" and switching the main language to English and activating the feature in the options; just did not work.
But if it doesn't work with the screen off, I don't see too much sense in it: I regard that "always listening" feature as a nice add-on if you're wearing a headset, allowing you to keep the phone in your pocket. As this does not work, I can easily live without it.
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Ah, I see !
Didn't have the chance of trying out myself, even after using "Ok Google everywhere" and switching the main language to English and activating the feature in the options; just did not work.
But if it doesn't work with the screen off, I don't see too much sense in it: I regard that "always listening" feature as a nice add-on if you're wearing a headset, allowing you to keep the phone in your pocket. As this does not work, I can easily live without it.
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But how about this, when I have it in my car attached to a Bluetooth speaker and on charge, I can leave the screen on and use OK Google from the lockscreen without having to touch the phone, hence I am not breaking any UK driving laws which basically say you cannot touch the phone to operate it, you need a full handsfree kit (Including when dialing and answering, not just speaking)
I've created an app that wakes ambient display when you take the phone out of your pocket or if you have the phone face down and turn it over. The app is in addition to Google's ambient display and does not change your lock screen in anyway. It can also set "pulses" of ambient display. The free version allows you to have it always pulse while charging.
I added a few other paid features for tilt or lift to unlock, wave to unlock, pulsing at an interval, and battery percentage display on the ambient display.
Please let me know if you have any suggestions or run into any problems. Thank you!
Check it out: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.compass.ambiturner
Pulse means, as long as i have for exampel a unread whatsapp message, ambi is showing at the set pulse time?
Maybe ill test it on OP3 with CM14.1 running ... will report back!
MultiCulti said:
Pulse means, as long as i have for exampel a unread whatsapp message, ambi is showing at the set pulse time?
Maybe ill test it on OP3 with CM14.1 running ... will report back!
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Correct. There is a filter for you to choose which apps can trigger a pulse. The pulse timeout is how long do you want the pulses to continue before it stops (to save battery). Pulse will temporarily pause when your phone goes into deep sleep. I could wake it up, but that's a much larger battery hit.
The other features seems to have little to now battery impact. Pulse is fine as long as the interval isn't set crazy low.
So far I've only personally tested it on stock Pixel XL.
ok, so far its working fine here!
Just the pulse isnt working (tried whatsapp and google messenger)
Love the idea off showing the battery, but its not that looking good :silly:
but i think, you just can manage this as "notification", or am i wrong?
anyways, good idea so far, will follow (bought it anyway) :laugh:
MultiCulti said:
ok, so far its working fine here!
Just the pulse isnt working (tried whatsapp and google messenger)
Love the idea off showing the battery, but its not that looking good :silly:
but i think, you just can manage this as "notification", or am i wrong?
anyways, good idea so far, will follow (bought it anyway) :laugh:
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The battery level is a notification. I'll create a custom layout to improve the look in a future update.
The pulse is the least reliable feature. I'm still working out the kinks, but doze and deep sleep definitely are one problem. I'm testing various ways and will try to get it as consistent as possible.
Alarm Manager would work but it would drain battery.
Looks great! Just to confirm - you need to have a lock screen set up for it to work?
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Looks great! Just to confirm - you need to have a lock screen set up for it to work?
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Yes, it works with androids Ambient Display. So if you have that and it's turned on it should work.
So I've done some limited testing with the app white listed from doze and so far it improves the responsiveness significantly. I don't know the battery impacts yet, but if it's not noticeable I'll add code to prompt users to white list it.
Other upcoming changes:
Advanced settings to adjust wait times for how long the phone has to be in your pocket or laying flat before a wake can occur.
A pulse option that initially pulses faster when a notification comes in, and progressively shows down until the timeout.
Possibly change in lock screen battery indicator appearance.
Filter on laying flat thresholds. I suspect the accelerometer incorrectly reports the phone tilted while it is laying flat on occasion.
New update posted.
I may have discovered what is causing the intermittent nature of wave to wake. I made some changes in how I'm using the proximity sensor so that should help. I'll have to wait and see after a day or so of use to see how consistent it is.
I also added an option to turn off the wake from pocket.
There's now a help screen with an email developer button and some troubleshooting hints. I've been getting a large number of 1 star reviews, and many of them are people who don't realize you need to have ambient display turned on and a lock screen set, so I included more info on that.
Oh, and the notification is now hidden unless you have the Battery Indicator selected!
If anyone is still having problems with tilt to wake please let me know. On my Pixel XL that has been working every time all day. There is sometimes a delay, but I think that's due to the aggressiveness of Android 7.1 putting the device into sleep.
Awesome app. I bought it mainly because of Wave To Wake, but for some reason it works two times on my Nexus 6 and then stops working until I turn my screen on and off again. Oh, and I've already whitelisted Ambi-Turner from the battery optimisation.
Also I would love if you could make Ambient Display work as soon as I turn the screen off, without having to wait for 10 or 3 seconds.
Thank you a lot for your hard work, I hope this can be fixed. Please contact me if I can help with anything!
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Awesome app. I bought it mainly because of Wave To Wake, but for some reason it works two times on my Nexus 6 and then stops working until I turn my screen on and off again. Oh, and I've already whitelisted Ambi-Turner from the battery optimisation.
Also I would love if you could make Ambient Display work as soon as I turn the screen off, without having to wait for 10 or 3 seconds.
Thank you a lot for your hard work, I hope this can be fixed. Please contact me if I can help with anything!
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I'm trying to get wave to wake as consistent as possible. Did you update last night? Let me know if that helps it.
I'm actually working on some advanced settings to let you control those timeouts.
grokus said:
I'm trying to get wave to wake as consistent as possible. Did you update last night? Let me know if that helps it.
I'm actually working on some advanced settings to let you control those timeouts.
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I'm testing it right now and it's still quite inconsistent. Though I never know if I'm waving too fast or too slow, you know? Maybe if there was a way to make it more sensitive? Thanks for the attention! ;D
Edit: just to be clear, Wave To Wake does only work two times, but I discovered that I don't actually need to turn the screen on for it to work, I can just move the device (then Ambient Display will turn on) and after that the Wave To Wake will work again (though still only two times). I believe it has something to do with the time after it's been awake or something like that.
Android Wear Issue
Ok...I love the app when its working and even bought the Pro. So worth it to me.
This morning I forgot my Android Wear watch (LG Urbane) at home and Ambi Turner was working perfectly. I had to run home at lunch, grabbed my watch, turned it on and now Ambi Turner isn't working.
Any thoughts how to get around this?
mschumacker said:
Ok...I love the app when its working and even bought the Pro. So worth it to me.
This morning I forgot my Android Wear watch (LG Urbane) at home and Ambi Turner was working perfectly. I had to run home at lunch, grabbed my watch, turned it on and now Ambi Turner isn't working.
Any thoughts how to get around this?
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UPDATE: I turned off the 'Mute' for my watch and Ambi Turner started working again. Hmm...gotta thing this one through. Turning on Mute alerts my watch, but I also see them on Amber Display.
Ygor Cortes said:
I'm testing it right now and it's still quite inconsistent. Though I never know if I'm waving too fast or too slow, you know? Maybe if there was a way to make it more sensitive? Thanks for the attention! ;D
Edit: just to be clear, Wave To Wake does only work two times, but I discovered that I don't actually need to turn the screen on for it to work, I can just move the device (then Ambient Display will turn on) and after that the Wave To Wake will work again (though still only two times). I believe it has something to do with the time after it's been awake or something like that.
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I'm adding some customization for the wave timeouts. I wish I could measure hand distance from phone but the pixel and nexus sensors don't have that granularity the way moto phones do.
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UPDATE: I turned off the 'Mute' for my watch and Ambi Turner started working again. Hmm...gotta thing this one through. Turning on Mute alerts my watch, but I also see them on Amber Display.
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Hmm that's strange. I'm using a garmin fitness watch that has notifications and haven't seen anything like that. Does your watch somehow mute notifications on your phone so that only the watch displays them?
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Hmm that's strange. I'm using a garmin fitness watch that has notifications and haven't seen anything like that. Does your watch somehow mute notifications on your phone so that only the watch displays them?
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Yes...there is a setting in Android Watch (Silence phone while wearing watch ) in the new version. It used to be 'Mute calls and notifications'. Its actually very handy so that when I'm in a meeting, I just get a vibration on my watch instead of my phone making any noise. Add the 'Feel the Wear' app where you can customize the vibration pattern per app...just a great combo.
EDIT: Since I just got a new version of Android Watch, it seems I can turn on the Silence option and the AmbiTurner, wake on wave, is working! Woo HOO!
Made tons of improvements. Tilt to wake should be extremely reliable now. There is also a lift to wake option. I reduced the speed you need to wave, so it should be much easier to trigger now. I also added an option to always pulse while charging.
Let me know how it works!
I had taken a break from updating it because I became a father but I have a little spare time now.
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Made tons of improvements. Tilt to wake should be extremely reliable now. There is also a lift to wake option. I reduced the speed you need to wave, so it should be much easier to trigger now. I also added an option to always pulse while charging.
Let me know how it works!
I had taken a break from updating it because I became a father but I have a little spare time now.
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@grokus is this app still being developed?
Sent from my LG-H990 using XDA Labs
HTC Flaslight app stopped working with Edge sense "Unable to turn on flashlight"
When using HTC edge sense squeeze or tap functions. It worked fine for the 1st week or 2. Has anyone experienced this issue? The flashlight will not turn on when I set it to squeeze or double tap, or any of the tap/squeeze functions. I get an error that says:
"UNABLE TO TURN ON FLASHLIGHT BECAUSE THE CAMERA IS IN USE"
Although the camera is not in use. I checked the permissions and there are no adjustable permission settings for the flashlight. The HTC Flashlight app works fine manually however now when I squeeze it will not turn on, instead I got the aforementioned error. It did work fine for the first week or 2, when I squeezed it the light would turn on even if the screen was off, and then when I squeezed again the flashlight would shut off. I really liked this feature. Furthermore, I tried downloading a flashlight app and it works to turn the light on but it will not shut it off when I squeeze again, I have to do it manually.
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When using HTC edge sense squeeze or tap functions. It worked fine for the 1st week or 2. Has anyone experienced this issue? The flashlight will not turn on when I set it to squeeze or double tap, or any of the tap/squeeze functions. I get an error that says:
"UNABLE TO TURN ON FLASHLIGHT BECAUSE THE CAMERA IS IN USE"
Although the camera is not in use. I checked the permissions and there are no adjustable permission settings for the flashlight. The HTC Flashlight app works fine manually however now when I squeeze it will not turn on, instead I got the aforementioned error. It did work fine for the first week or 2, when I squeezed it the light would turn on even if the screen was off, and then when I squeezed again the flashlight would shut off. I really liked this feature. Furthermore, I tried downloading a flashlight app and it works to turn the light on but it will not shut it off when I squeeze again, I have to do it manually.
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Can you try, if my Edge Sense Plus app behaves the same?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.duong.edgesenseplus
Quadro69 said:
When using HTC edge sense squeeze or tap functions. It worked fine for the 1st week or 2. Has anyone experienced this issue? The flashlight will not turn on when I set it to squeeze or double tap, or any of the tap/squeeze functions. I get an error that says:
"UNABLE TO TURN ON FLASHLIGHT BECAUSE THE CAMERA IS IN USE"
Although the camera is not in use. I checked the permissions and there are no adjustable permission settings for the flashlight. The HTC Flashlight app works fine manually however now when I squeeze it will not turn on, instead I got the aforementioned error. It did work fine for the first week or 2, when I squeezed it the light would turn on even if the screen was off, and then when I squeezed again the flashlight would shut off. I really liked this feature. Furthermore, I tried downloading a flashlight app and it works to turn the light on but it will not shut it off when I squeeze again, I have to do it manually.
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I had that same problem a couple of weeks ago. I just rebooted the phone and i haven’t had the same error again since. It does, however, behave a little temperamentally if I turn it on and off rapidly several times (which isn’t something I’m likely to do in a real world scenario).
Craig
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Can you try, if my Edge Sense Plus app behaves the same?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.duong.edgesenseplus
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Your app worked thank you.
I've never understood if the N5 actually has the hardware to do this despite many postings that it does.
Has anyone ever been able to wake the N5 with "Ok/Hey, Google"? If so, what rom and settings are you using? I have 'never sleep while charging' set in DO, but no go. Voice works fine on open display.
Thanks.
Hello,
I would like to somehow set Google assistant "ok Google" command listening to be active only when screen is on / phone is unlocked. By default phone listens for "ok Google" even when screen is off which is creepy / probably drains battery and its totally useless as assistant cannot do anything when phone is locked and Voice Match to unlock screen is not working anyway. Any advice?
BTW I'm rooted with magisk on OOS 9.5.9 so I'm open to any solution.
I have disabled Ok Google detection for a 1.5 days now and I think standby drain improved significantly, I was getting about 1,5% / h and now 0,5%! So it is big difference but still I would like to use assistant with OK Google when screen is unlocked..
Anybody knows a way do to it? Maybe using Tasker/automate?
spawnn617 said:
Hello,
I would like to somehow set Google assistant "ok Google" command listening to be active only when screen is on / phone is unlocked. By default phone listens for "ok Google" even when screen is off which is creepy / probably drains battery and its totally useless as assistant cannot do anything when phone is locked and Voice Match to unlock screen is not working anyway. Any advice?
BTW I'm rooted with magisk on OOS 9.5.9 so I'm open to any solution.
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1. It doesn't drain battery because its not handled by the CPU, but by the DSP.
2. You cant turn it off only for screen off.
matze19999 said:
1. It doesn't drain battery because its not handled by the CPU, but by the DSP.
2. You cant turn it off only for screen off.
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Assuming DSP doesn't use battery?
The assistant regularly polls GPS for updated weather, occasionally sends data to google when idle, monitor it for a day and see what it does.
I sometimes sends snippets of voice before and after ok Google
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Assuming DSP doesn't use battery?
The assistant regularly polls GPS for updated weather, occasionally sends data to google when idle, monitor it for a day and see what it does.
I sometimes sends snippets of voice before and after ok Google
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I'll say it with other words - you wouldn't notica a difference in battery life if you could turn it off. And if you do => Placebo
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Assuming DSP doesn't use battery?
The assistant regularly polls GPS for updated weather, occasionally sends data to google when idle, monitor it for a day and see what it does.
I sometimes sends snippets of voice before and after ok Google
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Exactly my point. DSP must still drain battery, of course less than CPU (if it would be handled by CPU then it would never go to deep sleep...) but for sure it takes some + all the stuff around it (gps/data transfer etc).
No workaround? Maybe a widget or something?