Hello guys.
The usb C to C cable that came with my phone is getting a bit battered with use. If I get a new one, will I still be able to get a rapid charge?
In other words, will any usb c to usb c cable fast charge my phone as long as the brick part of the charger is used?
psyonicus said:
Hello guys.
The usb C to C cable that came with my phone is getting a bit battered with use. If I get a new one, will I still be able to get a rapid charge?
In other words, will any usb c to usb c cable fast charge my phone as long as the brick part of the charged is used?
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Choetech charger on amazon is what I bought and its worked fine. They have them on amazon.
Thank you for your reply.
Sorry if I wasn't clear enough on my original post. Since the charger part works fine, I was wondering if I could just buy a usb c cable instead. If so, will any usb c to c cable, along with the original charger (the part that plugs to the outlet), be able to "rapidly charge" my 6p, or do I need to find a cable with x or y characteristics?
Please google Benson Leung and his work on testing and approving USB C cables for Google phones. Then you'll know more about the cables and what to buy.
But to answer your question, yes any USB C-C cable can work for rapid charging with the stock charger provided they meet the proper USB C specs.
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Let's discuss what wall and car chargers you have been able to charge the phone with.
I haven't bought it yet, but the Tronsmart 33 watt dual charger for the car looks promising: https://goo.gl/a3vada
I have a Tronsmart quick charge 3.0 home charger right now, but I don't have my phone yet. When I'm able to test it, I'll let everyone know.
Of course, if you are going to use a USB A to USB C cable, make sure it isn't a cheap one. Apparently there are reports of bad cables that may short out.
A question I have is: Can we get the full use of the Turbocharge with a USB A to USB C cable? Or do we need to go straight USB C to USB C? ANSWER, according to @tea_dub84: Possible that you will need USB C to USB C cables to achieve fastest charging.
Some helpful information:
Discussion on charging: Moto Z Force's TurboPower™: QuickCharge or USB-PD?
Some people who have had luck with Turbocharging:
@blynkofaneye: Aukey Wall Charger, Aukey Car Charger
Chargers that do NOT turbocharge:
@hbar98: Quick Charge 3.0, CHOETECH 6-Port USB Charging Station with 2 Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 Ports, USB A to C Cable and Charger Cradle for OnePlus 3 LG G5, Galaxy S6/S7/Edge, HTC 10, iPhone, iPad and More
hbar98 said:
I know it's kind of early to post this, but if anyone can post chargers for home or the car that work with the Moto Z, I'm sure that would help others out greatly.
I haven't bought it yet, but the Tronsmart 33 watt dual charger for the car looks promising: https://goo.gl/a3vada
I have a Tronsmart quick charge 3.0 home charger right now, but I don't have my phone yet. When I'm able to test it, I'll let everyone know.
Of course, if you are going to use a USB A to USB C cable, make sure it isn't a cheap one. Apparently there are reports of bad cables that may short out.
A question I have is: Can we get the full use of the Turbocharge with a USB A to USB C cable? Or do we need to go straight USB C to USB C?
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Most definitely going to need usb c to usb c for the fastest charging. With a usb a end I believe the best amp rating we can get is 2.4a but usually around 2. To turbo charge the Moto Z and for it to recognize turbo charging you need at least 5v at 3amps (15watts). The stock turbo charger outputs 5v at 5.7 amps (28.5watts). Our phones don't follow Qualcomm quick charge standards. I believe our phones follow the usb power delivery standard for charging.
I gave up looking and went to the local Verizon store. I was having an issue that the only charger that would charge my moto mod battery, Incipio, was the supplied charger with the phone.
They had usb c chargers in stock. I tested out the home charger and it turbo charged my phone then started to charge the battery mod. Then tested the usb c car charger and it turbo charged my phone then switched to charging the mod.
So needless to say I'm satisfied.
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mobrules777 said:
I gave up looking and went to the local Verizon store. I was having an issue that the only charger that would charge my moto mod battery, Incipio, was the supplied charger with the phone.
They had usb c chargers in stock. I tested out the home charger and it turbo charged my phone then started to charge the battery mod. Then tested the usb c car charger and it turbo charged my phone then switched to charging the mod.
So needless to say I'm satisfied.
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Guess Ill be getting the verizon car charger, thank you for that wasnt sure it would turbo charge...or charge at all...Ive had problems with verizon branded chargers in the past
LeeMullinsII said:
Guess Ill be getting the verizon car charger, thank you for that wasnt sure it would turbo charge...or charge at all...Ive had problems with verizon branded chargers in the past
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Any chargers (home and car) online that use usb-c to usb-c cables should turbo charge the phone...
NONE of them (including the VZW) will charge as fast as the one that came in the box...but they will turbo charge
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First picture is using the Verizon usb c fast charger. Not bad and it did pop up saying turbo charging.
Just to compare the second photo is using the supplied charger that came with phone. Huge difference.
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Metfanant said:
Any chargers (home and car) online that use usb-c to usb-c cables should turbo charge the phone...
NONE of them (including the VZW) will charge as fast as the one that came in the box...but they will turbo charge
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Any USB C to C charger will *work*, but they won't turbo charge since Motorola doesn't use QC 2 or 3. It uses the USB C charging standard with a twist. I have tried a couple chargers, and the phone will always pop up a box telling that to enable turbocharge I need to use a turbocharge charger, etc...
The Z Force charges with a 5v at 5.7a, and many chargers won't put out that much power. I've seen a lot of 3a and 5a chargers, but few 5.7a.
If you're lucky enough to have a USB C port on a PC/Mac, it will turbo charge the phone as fast as the stock charger, provided you use a good quality C to C cable. It will also let you transfer data to the phone at insane speeds.
Verizon sells TWO car chargers that are Type-C one of them states Qualcomm QC 3.0 and the other does not but both show they are rated at 5V/3A (15 watts)
Has anyone tried one with the VZ branding? If so, which model was it? SKU #TYPECPDQC3VPC or SKU #TYPECPDVPC ?
So I ended up getting the SKU #TYPECPDQC3VPC and it works fine in turbo mode. Go with that one for the car!
I picked up the following charger from amazon with a discount from snagshout.com. Seems to work as it should, have only used it twice though.
Quick Charge 3.0 Silipower 39W car charger attached 3.3ft USB-C connector for 5V 3A charging Nexus 5X/6P, HTC 10 & other Type-C Devices, QC3.0 for LG G4/G5, Galaxy S7/S6/Edge, HTC| Qualcomm Certified
I'm Brazillian and I bought the AUKEY Car Charger mentioned on the first post on Ebay and it works with Turbo Charger. I have a Moto Z Play (XT1635-02).
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Sou Brasileiro e comprei o Aukey Car Charger citado no primeiro post pelo Ebay e carregou com o Turbo Charger. Tenho um Moto Z Play (XT1635-02)
I've got a Pixel charger I use at home, and a Verizon QC3/USB-PD vehicle charger
Vehicle - https://goo.gl/Pa1QWW
I bought this charger :
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Type-C-5-Port-Charger-PowerPort/dp/B01D8C6ULO/
It works perfectly on turbo power via the usb c port.
It follows a Motorola Proprietary Power Delivery, compatible with other USB Type-C Power Delivery devices up to 5V/3A max
The Verizon TYPECPDQC3VPC, TYPECPDVPC car chargers and TYPECPDQC3TVL wall charger will charge 5V/3A. (I bought mine off ebay as Verizon/Xentris non-branded for $9 each~ YMMV)
Reference https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...f_TX8/pubhtml#
I think most usb type-c PD chargers will "fast charge" up to 5V/3A, only the Motorola TubroPower 30 has the capability to do 5V/5.7A proprietary "turbo charge".. It was $20 shipped on Verizon 'til recently, that's where I bought mine.
I bought this charger for home, it's the verizon oem from xentris with the logo marked over. http://www.ebay.com/itm/351967678957
clockcycle said:
I bought this charger for home, it's the verizon oem from xentris with the logo marked over. http://www.ebay.com/itm/351967678957
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And does it turbo charge?
I just stumbled upon this when looking for a new car charger that would keep USB C for my 6P, and the new Nexus in case it also doesn't support QC, but wanted QC support as well for USB A since I just bought an expensive Anker Power line+ USB A to C cable (they don't offer C to C). But, I wanted 2 USB A ports, not just 1.
Lo and behold, the only car charger of its kind! This puppy has 2x USB A QC 3.0 ports & 1x USB C with QC 3.0 as well.
I will have it Saturday and test it out for both my Note7 and 6P. Their other products have pretty good reviews. I guess the customer service may suck if the product fails according to some reviews, but it seems like a low failure rate, and with Prime I'm not too worried.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IVBWWCI/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
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I just stumbled upon this when looking for a new car charger that would keep USB C for my 6P, and the new Nexus in case it also doesn't support QC, but wanted QC support as well for USB A since I just bought an expensive Anker Power line+ USB A to C cable (they don't offer C to C). But, I wanted 2 USB A ports, not just 1.
Lo and behold, the only car charger of its kind! This puppy has 2x USB A QC 3.0 ports & 1x USB C with QC 3.0 as well.
I will have it Saturday and test it out for both my Note7 and 6P. Their other products have pretty good reviews. I guess the customer service may suck if the product fails according to some reviews, but it seems like a low failure rate, and with Prime I'm not too worried.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IVBWWCI/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
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could have gotten this one from Anker https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G5B069C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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could have gotten this one from Anker https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G5B069C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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$32 and it only has 1 QC 3.0 port. The charger I listed has 3.
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$32 and it only has 1 QC 3.0 port. The charger I listed has 3.
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Your 6P don't need Quick Charge you know ?
A 5v/3a charger with USB-C will do the trick.
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$32 and it only has 1 QC 3.0 port. The charger I listed has 3.
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therock3181 said:
Your 6P don't need Quick Charge you know ?
A 5v/3a charger with USB-C will do the trick.
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Also worth noting QC on a type C port is in direct violation of the USB Type C standard. Would not be "Benson-approved"
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Your 6P don't need Quick Charge you know ?
A 5v/3a charger with USB-C will do the trick.
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5V/3A is the USB C standard, so any C charger should work. But the new Nexuses could use QC - my Tronsmart car charger has had USB C with QC and works fine with my 6P and any QC device I tried. But more importantly, I have a 6P and so does my girlfriend, but I also have a Note7, so the flexibility is nice.
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Also worth noting QC on a type C port is in direct violation of the USB Type C standard. Would not be "Benson-approved"
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Benson approved really doesn't matter for this. LG, HTC, Samsung, and Qualcomm all support/back using QC over USB C with properly made cables and chargers. Just because it doesn't adhere to the standard doesn't automatically mean anything is wrong with it. USB C power delivery calls for what, 20V at 5A or something like that? It can obviously handle the load.
Nitemare3219 said:
5V/3A is the USB C standard, so any C charger should work. But the new Nexuses could use QC - my Tronsmart car charger has had USB C with QC and works fine with my 6P and any QC device I tried. But more importantly, I have a 6P and so does my girlfriend, but I also have a Note7, so the flexibility is nice.
Benson approved really doesn't matter for this. LG, HTC, Samsung, and Qualcomm all support/back using QC over USB C with properly made cables and chargers. Just because it doesn't adhere to the standard doesn't automatically mean anything is wrong with it. USB C power delivery calls for what, 20V at 5A or something like that? It can obviously handle the load.
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I just don't trust it that's all. there are too many manufacturers making type c chargers with Vbus hot and bridged CC - which is dangerous for devices/chargers. IMO if they are willing to break one spec, they are likely willing to break multiple.
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I just stumbled upon this when looking for a new car charger that would keep USB C for my 6P, and the new Nexus in case it also doesn't support QC, but wanted QC support as well for USB A since I just bought an expensive Anker Power line+ USB A to C cable (they don't offer C to C). But, I wanted 2 USB A ports, not just 1.
Lo and behold, the only car charger of its kind! This puppy has 2x USB A QC 3.0 ports & 1x USB C with QC 3.0 as well.
I will have it Saturday and test it out for both my Note7 and 6P. Their other products have pretty good reviews. I guess the customer service may suck if the product fails according to some reviews, but it seems like a low failure rate, and with Prime I'm not too worried.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IVBWWCI/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
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So... did it work?
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So... did it work?
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Sure, for about 15 minutes. Thought I posted back here but apparently not.
It's trash. Yes, it has all the mentioned ports and it works perfectly with each device briefly. Problem is, it becomes thermally overloaded and the charge speeds drop DRAMATICALLY. USB C charging, even at 5V/3A, was by far the worst. Charging a USB C device by itself would rapid charge for about 30-45 minutes before slowing way down. QuickCharge generally worked okay for a little bit longer. If you had 2 devices charging at the same time, you'd be lucky to keep them going for 20 minutes. Also, it constantly drew power (a significant amount) from my car's power port because it was ALWAYS very warm to the touch which made the overheating problem happen even faster if I didn't unplug it in-between uses.
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Sure, for about 15 minutes. Thought I posted back here but apparently not.
It's trash. Yes, it has all the mentioned ports and it works perfectly with each device briefly. Problem is, it becomes thermally overloaded and the charge speeds drop DRAMATICALLY. USB C charging, even at 5V/3A, was by far the worst. Charging a USB C device by itself would rapid charge for about 30-45 minutes before slowing way down. QuickCharge generally worked okay for a little bit longer. If you had 2 devices charging at the same time, you'd be lucky to keep them going for 20 minutes. Also, it constantly drew power (a significant amount) from my car's power port because it was ALWAYS very warm to the touch which made the overheating problem happen even faster if I didn't unplug it in-between uses.
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Good to know. I've been having a frustrating hunt for a fast charging car charger.
I took this Aukey charger with me on a one-month, 3,000 mile road trip and it worked perfectly the whole time, just used the C-C cable that comes with the 6p charger. Can't recommend it enough.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01E764DXM/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
MYxdaUSERNAME said:
I took this Aukey charger with me on a one-month, 3,000 mile road trip and it worked perfectly the whole time, just used the C-C cable that comes with the 6p charger. Can't recommend it enough.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01E764DXM/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I love this charger! I get to rapid charge my Nexus 6P while my girlfriend gets to quick charge her Nexus 6 all at the same time! Both phones plugged in and 0 issues!
USB Type C Car Charger, BlitzWolf 27W 5V/3A USB-C 3.3 Feet Cable Extension and 2.4A USB $10
I bought this one price was right and it charges almost as quickly as oem. The only con is the cable is built in.
You can look at the brand anker ?
I use this one. It charges just as fast as the OEM wall charger. Plus it has a standard Qualcomm quick charge 2.0 if you have another device.
[Qualcomm Certified] BlitzWolf® BW-C7 USB Type C Quick Charge QC 2.0 33W Car Charger
https://banggood.app.link/9zXLWYzGVG
I would like to buy a 10 ft wall charger for my pixel XL. Wasn't sure if it needed to be USB C to USB C or what so I can get the fast charging capabilities still. Anyone have any suggestions for longer chargers? The stock one that came with the phone just isn't long enough.
powerstroke said:
I would like to buy a 10 ft wall charger for my pixel XL. Wasn't sure if it needed to be USB C to USB C or what so I can get the fast charging capabilities still. Anyone have any suggestions for longer chargers? The stock one that came with the phone just isn't long enough.
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Anker PowerLine USB-C to USB 3.0 Cable (10ft) with 56k Ohm Pull-up Resistor for USB Type-C Devices Including the new MacBook, ChromeBook Pixel, Nokia N1 Tablet, OnePlus 2 and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MZIPYPY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_taa_QjC1ybJ0Z05GJ
coolhandz said:
Anker PowerLine USB-C to USB 3.0 Cable (10ft) with 56k Ohm Pull-up Resistor for USB Type-C Devices Including the new MacBook, ChromeBook Pixel, Nokia N1 Tablet, OnePlus 2 and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MZIPYPY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_taa_QjC1ybJ0Z05GJ
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Does it come with the wall adapter? Because the only one I have has only usb c connection on it. The one that came with my phone.
I hear ya on the charger that came with the phone, they could have definitely made the cord longer.
I plugged it in for the first time and was like WTF . Barely reaches to a table.
Why not just use a cheap two prong extension cord and plug your charger into that?
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Does it come with the wall adapter? Because the only one I have has only usb c connection on it. The one that came with my phone.
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It does not come with a wall adapter. You'd have to buy a USB -a adapter to USB -c or just buy another wall adapter.
I bought this
AUKEY USB-C to USB 3.0 Adapter for MacBook Pro, Nexus 6P 5X, LG G5 and More (2 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AUKU1OO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_taa_GyR1ybSDM3SK3
so that I could the factory wall adapter.
So my phone came with the UCH12 charger and a usb C 3.1 cable, 1st gen i believe.
The adapter says it supports quickcharge 3.0, so can I use quickcharge? I read online that only the UCH12W can do quickcharge but I don't undersand why. What's the difference? My usb cable is a UCB20 model.
Can someone explain to me if I need the UCH12W adaptor and a different cable or something, or I just need a different cable with the current adapter?
According to my adapter it can output: 5 V/2700 mA, 9 V/1800 mA, 12 V/1350 mA, and according to the xperia.com page of the UCH12W that also outputs this exact same amount of power. So what's the difference and why doesn't quickcharge seem to work for me?
alexaka1 said:
So my phone came with the UCH12 charger and a usb C 3.1 cable, 1st gen i believe.
The adapter says it supports quickcharge 3.0, so can I use quickcharge? I read online that only the UCH12W can do quickcharge but I don't undersand why. What's the difference? My usb cable is a UCB20 model.
Can someone explain to me if I need the UCH12W adaptor and a different cable or something, or I just need a different cable with the current adapter?
According to my adapter it can output: 5 V/2700 mA, 9 V/1800 mA, 12 V/1350 mA, and according to the xperia.com page of the UCH12W that also outputs this exact same amount of power. So what's the difference and why doesn't quickcharge seem to work for me?
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As I understand it (and hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong), the only difference is the cable. I read in one of the other threads that the cable that comes with the XZP doesn't support quick charge but the cable that comes with the UCH12W does support it. I'm guessing this is due to a wiring difference in the cables. I got the UCH12W on eBay and my XZP quick charges without issue, but I haven't tested this with the cable that came with the phone. I'll give it a go when I get home and see if this is true.
Long story short, I think the UCH12 doesn't come with a cable while the UCH12W does. Other than that, I'm pretty sure they're both the same charger.
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Jake_09 said:
As I understand it (and hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong), the only difference is the cable. I read in one of the other threads that the cable that comes with the XZP doesn't support quick charge but the cable that comes with the UCH12W does support it. I'm guessing this is due to a wiring difference in the cables. I got the UCH12W on eBay and my XZP quick charges without issue, but I haven't tested this with the cable that came with the phone. I'll give it a go when I get home and see if this is true.
Long story short, I think the UCH12 doesn't come with a cable while the UCH12W does. Other than that, I'm pretty sure they're both the same charger.
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Thx! Can you tell me, what model your usb cable is? It's on the little white leaflet thing, if it has one. So in theory, I only need a specific cable to do quickcharge?
So my cable that came with the phone is a UCB20 model, on the xperia site, I can see models like the UCB30 and UCB32. UCB32 won't do as that is a usb c - c cable, the adapter has an A connector first, so that's not gonna work. But the UCB30 is supposedly 2nd gen usb 3.1 type c cable. And it can support higher power flow. Could it be that the UCH12W comes with a cable like this? I didn't want to buy the cable because my the XZP only has a 1st gen usb c slot, so I wouldn't benefit from the 2nd gen speed at all. But maybe power would work.
Qualcomm faq reads:
Q6: Does it matter what type of charging cable is used with a Quick Charge adapter?
A: Quick Charge is designed to be connector- and current-independent.(...)
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Xperia userguid reads:
When charging a device with the Quick Charger UCH12W, always use the UCB20 USB Type-C™ cable or the UCB11 Micro USB cable that was included with the charger at purchase.
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alexaka1 said:
Thx! Can you tell me, what model your usb cable is? It's on the little white leaflet thing, if it has one. So in theory, I only need a specific cable to do quickcharge?
So my cable that came with the phone is a UCB20 model, on the xperia site, I can see models like the UCB30 and UCB32. UCB32 won't do as that is a usb c - c cable, the adapter has an A connector first, so that's not gonna work. But the UCB30 is supposedly 2nd gen usb 3.1 type c cable. And it can support higher power flow. Could it be that the UCH12W comes with a cable like this? I didn't want to buy the cable because my the XZP only has a 1st gen usb c slot, so I wouldn't benefit from the 2nd gen speed at all. But maybe power would work.
Qualcomm faq reads:
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The cable that came with my charger is UCB20 and quick charge does appear to work with this cable, so if you have that one, it should be just fine.
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I have downloaded an app called Ampere, it can relatively measure the ampere of battery charge and discharge. When i'm home in the weekend, I'll check with a portable battery, my old Z3 Compact adapter, and my current adapter. If nothing else my current one should shlw the highest amperage of the three. But I'm not sure my phone uses quickcharge. Because I don't experience the magic of putting my phone charging, me coming back in 30 minutes and I should see amazing results.
Hi
I have a honor 8 ,with a quick charge feature, it is working with the official wall charger + usb c cable sold with the phone.
I would like to buy a longer usb c cable. How to be sure it will provide fast charge? Could I buy cheapest cable?
Thanks