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Hi Everyone,
Having got my G1 I have decided to sell my Diamond on Ebay and got £166 for it. However, the G1 has a limitation which I found my Diamond to also have... the Camera and the lack of Any flash whatsoever (not even a cheap LCD Light).
I am looking for a cheap and reliable 5mp phone with decent flash. I will need a second handset anyway for my o2 sim (I am on o2 Broadband and it works out cheaper if I top up £10 every 3 months to get the reduced rate, not sure if the sim needs to remain active aswell).
I've been looking at the n82. Does anyone else have any suggestions?
I have a budget of £166 so something cheap would be nice.
Better to buy a nice digital camera and a great HTC cellphone
Jut my opinion...
yeah even 10Mpixel don't change the fact that cellphones use CMOS image chips
which will never produce as good a result as ccd that digital cameras use
also cellphones generally don't have that good optical as digital cameras
so all more mpixels does it add more blurry pixels
5MP camera, you could easily find that cheap.
hey go for samsung pixon it has 8mp phone
Hi,Take a look ?
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The Cook Family's match: The Windows Phone 8X by HTC - Full Length
Even that is a MyTouch 3G
But I still felt uncomfortable
If window phone 8x compare to MyTouch 4G
is there any chance 4G could beat 8X?
Sorry, I can not post the youtube link.
plusyou88 said:
Hi,Take a look ?
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The Cook Family's match: The Windows Phone 8X by HTC - Full Length
Even that is a MyTouch 3G
But I still felt uncomfortable
If window phone 8x compare to MyTouch 4G
is there any chance 4G could beat 8X?
Sorry, I can not post the youtube link.
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He compared using the front-facing camera. Nobody seriously uses the front camera, it is a lame VGA 1.3MP sensor. Had he used the rear camera, the MyTouch would have held its own against the Nokia.
Fuzi0719 said:
He compared using the front-facing camera. Nobody seriously uses the front camera, it is a lame VGA 1.3MP sensor. Had he used the rear camera, the MyTouch would have held its own against the Nokia.
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I beg to differ!
Anyone using phone for what it is - a communication device - normally uses the front camera a lot, not the rear one, don't you agree?
Personally I could live without rear camera at all, all those hailed "great features" of MT4GS' built-in rear camera's (and any other phone's cameras!) are easily beaten by any crappiest $20 standalone photo camera toys with a 1 inch lens (or more), and that's a fact... This rear camera module cost mere $2 or less from manufacturer (depending on quantity) and either same or very similar ones are built-in into many toys (i.e. latest Barbie with camera and screen)... Anyways, I never understood why anyone would even consider taking any more or less serious photos with the phone's tiny plastic single-optic lens. It's not like photo/video cameras with proper optics cost arm and leg nowadays... I can hardly think of more than very few situations where the rear camera may be needed instead of front camera.
Oh and having said that: Windows Phone 8 sucks. I haven't seen any difference from WP7, which IMO is the worst mobile OS ever.
MT4GS said:
I beg to differ!
Anyone using phone for what it is - a communication device - usually use the front camera a lot, don't you think?
Personally I could live without rear camera at all, all those hailed "great features" of MT4GS' built-in rear camera's are easily beaten by any crappiest $20 standalone photo camera toys with a 2 inch lens (or more), and that's a fact... This rear camera module cost mere $2-$3, either same or very similar one are built-in into many toys (i.e. latest Barbie with camera and screen)... Anyways, I never understood why anyone would even consider taking any more or less serious photos with the phone's tiny plastic single-optic lens. It's not like photo/video cameras with proper optics cost arm and leg nowadays... I can hardly think of more than very few situations where the rear camera may be needed instead of front camera.
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Really?! I'm tired of people saying their phones aren't real, respectable (ish) cameras. No offense personally, dude... I just see this as a common misconception among my fellow techies. Most 8MP and above take decent enough shots to be compared to a regular consumer grade camera. Obviously, not in ALL situations (like low light at a distance, optical zoom, etc.) but enough to be used seriously to capture a memory of loved one, day trip, unexpected wild life, etc. The MAIN point is who the hell carries a camera around with them?! Very few... so yeah, I'd say some of the newer phones can be considered serious (ish) cameras. Of course these are just opinions so we can't really prove or disprove much but I have to say that most pics are taken by mobiles and must be considered serious based on quantity alone. Remember that few people actually know what a DSLR camera is... let alone carry one. We technical minded people forget that most aren't in the same mindset we are.
I too am fond of the front facing camera of nokia phones. And that's only because nokia supports 3g Video calling unlike android that uses the front camera only for internet based video calling. Quality wise I don't really mind at all since they all are crap anyways. I would be greatful to have a 8mp front facing camera with superb compression so it wouldn't have any impacts on data transfer. But yeah it's just a dream haha
sino8r said:
Really?! I'm tired of people saying their phones aren't real, respectable (ish) cameras. No offense personally, dude... I just see this as a common misconception among my fellow techies. Most 8MP and above take decent enough shots to be compared to a regular consumer grade camera. Obviously, not in ALL situations (like low light at a distance, optical zoom, etc.) but enough to be used seriously to capture a memory of loved one, day trip, unexpected wild life, etc. The MAIN point is who the hell carries a camera around with them?! Very few... so yeah, I'd say some of the newer phones can be considered serious (ish) cameras. Of course these are just opinions so we can't really prove or disprove much but I have to say that most pics are taken by mobiles and must be considered serious based on quantity alone. Remember that few people actually know what a DSLR camera is... let alone carry one. We technical minded people forget that most aren't in the same mindset we are.
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Of course it is personal prefernce, so our discussion is actually a moot.
I do agree with you (mostly), but you missed my point, which is that almost anything you may use rear camera for - all of it can be done with the front camera, but not the other way aroound (i.e. you can't use rear camera for videocall). I'd rather have a good front camera, because 99% of the time that's the camera I use, that's all. Rear camera is a gimmick to fool people, but that's just my opinion. (edit - actually not only mine, since i.e. latest Google tablets ditched the rear cameras, yet they kept the front ones...)
Regarding the quality - there is no need to "defend" the phone cameras, because I am not "attacking" them; they are what they are: cheapest cameras around and just because at certain conditions they are able to take decent shots proves nothing. Anyways, IMO the phone cameras are akin to old disposable "analog" (35mm film) cameras, they had their market too. I have actually seen people taking wedding photos with those! And there is nothing wrong with that, it's all just personal preference, really.
The fact is that when you have no camera around, even the crappiest one is a god-send, right?
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The same way death of stupid iPods was just a matter of time once the first smartphones became capable of playing music and videos, the same way the "point & shoot" cameras will disappear in the next few years. People always prefer "all-in-one" devices instead of carrying multiple single-purpose devices. Let's not forget that the "convenience" always wins over "quality" (it has been proven many times), and that's why I am sure within next few years all these typical "point & shoot" cameras will disappear completely (replaced by built-in phone cameras). Camera market will consist mostly of pro and consumer DSLRs and some more-less specialized cams (3D perhaps? assuming this current 3D TV fad keeps going on).
MT4GS said:
I beg to differ!
Anyone using phone for what it is - a communication device - normally uses the front camera a lot, not the rear one, don't you agree?
Personally I could live without rear camera at all, all those hailed "great features" of MT4GS' built-in rear camera's (and any other phone's cameras!) are easily beaten by any crappiest $20 standalone photo camera toys with a 1 inch lens (or more), and that's a fact... This rear camera module cost mere $2 or less from manufacturer (depending on quantity) and either same or very similar ones are built-in into many toys (i.e. latest Barbie with camera and screen)... Anyways, I never understood why anyone would even consider taking any more or less serious photos with the phone's tiny plastic single-optic lens. It's not like photo/video cameras with proper optics cost arm and leg nowadays... I can hardly think of more than very few situations where the rear camera may be needed instead of front camera.
Oh and having said that: Windows Phone 8 sucks. I haven't seen any difference from WP7, which IMO is the worst mobile OS ever.
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Sorry, but you really don't know WTF you're saying, so just stop. Thank you for your time.
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Riyal said:
I too am fond of the front facing camera of nokia phones. And that's only because nokia supports 3g Video calling unlike android that uses the front camera only for internet based video calling. Quality wise I don't really mind at all since they all are crap anyways. I would be greatful to have a 8mp front facing camera with superb compression so it wouldn't have any impacts on data transfer. But yeah it's just a dream haha
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We can do 3G video calling on our MT4GS just fine. I've used Skype and QIK to make video calls without any problem, and not on Wi-Fi.
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Sorry, but you really don't know WTF you're saying, so just stop. Thank you for your time.
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LOL I think exactly the same about your opinion, so why you just don't stop?
I use my front facing camera like 200 times a day.... No lie
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
I use my front facing camera like 200 times a day.... No lie
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I use the front WAY more than the back camera. I mean yeah the back camera comes in handy for weird clouding in the sky, but nothing beats sitting there doing 'self portraits' of me and my daughter
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I use my FFC *MAYBE* 2x a year.
I use the rear camera daily @ work as well as at play.
YMMV. We all place different value on our devices based on our lifestyle and values.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
In the 14 months I've owned this phone, I've used the front camera for a photo maybe 3 times. I use the rear camera a lot, at least a dozen times a week on average and when I was living in China this past summer I took over 1000 photos and a dozen HD videos using the rear camera. I've used the front camera for webcam about 6 times.
I did an informal survey among my friends. Of the 9 friends I asked who have phones with a front camera, only 2 of them had ever used the front camera for a photo, and that's because they are self-pic whores. HAHAHA
Lol I'd hope a brand new phone beats a phone that's nearly a year and a half old. But in all seriousness, I still think the MT4GS's camera is still pretty solid. I mean not the GREATEST, but it's not very bad either. The front facing camera I do use a lot and it's not quite the BEST, but I've never needed the BEST front facing camera, if it works then I'm good to go.
Wrong thread lol!
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Wrong thread lol!
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I just hate it when I do that.
I bet we will see the beginning of the end for most point and shoots when they add optical zoom and dslr to smartphones. Like what MT4GS said, most end users prefer all in one devices. Very good point about death of ipod. I always thought that mp3 players were stupid since I was using my WM device/G1 as one. I eventually ran out of memory since the 16GB cards were expensive at the time and opted for a 32GB model mp3 player. These days... you can get a 64GB class 10 card for under a $100 which makes mp3 players obsolete. I'm sure cameras will never meet that end quite as dramatically or in numbers even for just consumers but I can see that cameras on smartphones will hit 12mp soon enough and become commonplace when optical zoom is introduced. I'm sure most manufacturers are concerned about thickness, how they can make the lens retreat mostly into the housing, and mostly... safe on their drop tests Personally, I wish they'd work on better lens because 12mp camera can look like **** with inferior lens. As far as the front camera goes, our little VGA doesn't cut it for picture... for me, at least. It is handy for video calls and nothing more imho. Even the latest, which usually include up to 1.3mp, is rather poor quality. I've been disappointed at the rate manufacturers have improved them thus far. I guess time will tell, huh?
As far as DSLR goes, I'm sure it will be added when they become more commonplace in the consumer realm. HDR seems to be adding to all models as a feature like panorama. The photography world has become very exciting lately
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In the 14 months I've owned this phone, I've used the front camera for a photo maybe 3 times. I use the rear camera a lot, at least a dozen times a week on average and when I was living in China this past summer I took over 1000 photos and a dozen HD videos using the rear camera. I've used the front camera for webcam about 6 times.
I did an informal survey among my friends. Of the 9 friends I asked who have phones with a front camera, only 2 of them had ever used the front camera for a photo, and that's because they are self-pic whores. HAHAHA
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You still don't get it.
I will try one more time slower for you
Whatever you use your rear camera for, it can be done with front camera in almost every case. If MT4GS had the 8Mpx front camera with all the same features (and no rear camera) you would be using it the same way as you already did with this camera being in the rear - AND all of us using only/mostly the current front camera would be using it the same way as we did so far too, don't you get it? The rear camera is redundant in 99% cases of use.
You have used the rear cam only because you wanted take photos or videos in a higher resolution (than the current front camera's VGA). Simply replace the front VGA cam with 8Mpx camera from the back and you don't need 2 of them anymore.
What I would actually prefer instead of 2 cameras is having a second small screen on the back (to be used as i.e. "viewfinder" for those rare occasions when the front camera would be used for taking photos of something, but anyways there are plenty of other/better uses for second small screen on the rear), but that's another matter...
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I just did same survey, 6 ppl:
4 agree the rear camera is redundant and they do or would use only front camera if there was no rear cam
1 person has only front cam (and she said she don't need rear camera at all)
1 person said he would NOT buy phone without 2 cameras (front and back)
so...
MT4GS said:
You still don't get it.
I will try one more time slower for you
Whatever you use your rear camera for, it can be done with front camera in almost every case. If MT4GS had the 8Mpx front camera with all the same features (and no rear camera) you would be using it the same way as you already did with this camera being in the rear - AND all of us using only/mostly the current front camera would be using it the same way as we did so far too, don't you get it? The rear camera is redundant in 99% cases of use.
You have used the rear cam only because you wanted take photos or videos in a higher resolution (than the current front camera's VGA). Simply replace the front VGA cam with 8Mpx camera from the back and you don't need 2 of them anymore.
What I would actually prefer instead of 2 cameras is having a second small screen on the back (to be used as i.e. "viewfinder" for those rare occasions when the front camera would be used for taking photos of something, but anyways there are plenty of other/better uses for second small screen on the rear), but that's another matter...
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I just did same survey, 6 ppl:
4 agree the rear camera is redundant and they do or would use only front camera if there was no rear cam
1 person has only front cam (and she said she don't need rear camera at all)
1 person said he would NOT buy phone without 2 cameras (front and back)
so...
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It is really sad when a narcissist has so pissed off everyone else in his life that he's reduced to taking his own self-pics with the front-facing camera on his phone. :laugh: And no, I would not use the front camera even if it were a higher quality. The photos I take are of other subjects, not myself. I'm not that vain.
MT4GS said:
You still don't get it.
I will try one more time slower for you
Whatever you use your rear camera for, it can be done with front camera in almost every case. If MT4GS had the 8Mpx front camera with all the same features (and no rear camera) you would be using it the same way as you already did with this camera being in the rear - AND all of us using only/mostly the current front camera would be using it the same way as we did so far too, don't you get it? The rear camera is redundant in 99% cases of use.
You have used the rear cam only because you wanted take photos or videos in a higher resolution (than the current front camera's VGA). Simply replace the front VGA cam with 8Mpx camera from the back and you don't need 2 of them anymore.
What I would actually prefer instead of 2 cameras is having a second small screen on the back (to be used as i.e. "viewfinder" for those rare occasions when the front camera would be used for taking photos of something, but anyways there are plenty of other/better uses for second small screen on the rear), but that's another matter...
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I just did same survey, 6 ppl:
4 agree the rear camera is redundant and they do or would use only front camera if there was no rear cam
1 person has only front cam (and she said she don't need rear camera at all)
1 person said he would NOT buy phone without 2 cameras (front and back)
so...
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Not to tease but what do you do when you take pics other than yourself & someone/something? I agree with Fuzi... I'm just not sure how people are taking so many FFC pics.... Am I missing something? Again, no sarcasm intended. Just curious and confused
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Not to tease but what do you do when you take pics other than yourself & someone/something? I agree with Fuzi... I'm just not sure how people are taking so many FFC pics.... Am I missing something? Again, no sarcasm intended. Just curious and confused
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I have a folder on my sdcard that's nothing but self pics of me and my kid TOGETHER. And its around a few hundred photos, then there's me and my fiance together ect.
Also the ffc is a mirror for me when I cut my own hair and need to see the back of my head and only one mirror is there...I mean the ffc has more uses than what's being looked at.
Btw I notice this thread has gone way off track to MT and fuzi opinion thread on why this camera is better than that camera
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I was wondering is there anyway I can replace the camera lens with a better camera lens from a different phone that contains a better camera lens?
For instance I know the iPhone 4 and Epic 4G have the same camera lens and I really don't plan on giving up my Epic 4G soon because I love the QWERTY Keyboard and its pretty much the best QWERTY keyboard phone Sprint has to offer but even with a 5mp camera I figured I could do the camera little bit more justice if I could give it a better lens. So any idea?
Thanks in advance! *meanwhile I'm off to order a 3500 mAh battery for this new phone and a 32GB class 10 card after reading reviews in this section*
I love my new Epic 4G!
is there even such a thing?
just replaced your entire phone altogether.
Actually there's too much thing to participate in the phone,not only the hardware..And the socket of the camera are completely different.If you're luckily enough to instal it,it may have hardware/driver conflict...
If the camera app was designed well,you don't even need any new hardware.
this thread to show the openion of all android users about them camera and its unique criteria of them vaviorite.any ploaded picture of your faviorite device is welcomed.no special test and no offend to any company its only your openion to the smart mobiles you used...
i will start with my faviorite .. i loved htc cameras from the start.as i had my 1st htc device (htc evo 3d) just becuase its wonderful cam.it was 5mp only but had a very conventional resolution.and its 3d picture was a real chaleng.
for now i find htc one is one of the best. as the new era of cam technology started by them....
write about what you think in your device cam.
Well I've never had anything by HTC phones but think that my one x probably takes the best photos out of the phones that I've had. Pictures always come out really crisp and sharp unless I'm in really low light. So my vote would be for the one x
DroidIt! said:
Well I've never had anything by HTC phones but think that my one x probably takes the best photos out of the phones that I've had. Pictures always come out really crisp and sharp unless I'm in really low light. So my vote would be for the one x
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Yup I tried already many phones and in see that one x has still one of the best cams... Even s3/s4 aren't that good like all people are thinking... My opinion because of even some tests even my old HD2 and the DHD from my dad are making better pics then any Samsung phones until s3 and some LG phones so htc camera software is even in stock really good optimized )
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htc one have the best camera ever ! :laugh:
I don't think so
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htc one have the best camera ever ! :laugh:
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Sharp Aquos SH-02e has the best camera right now. I really wonder why it hasn't surpassed the crappy samsung chinese phones that everyone into consumerism seems to think is an awesome phone.
and btw, I have it.
HTC cam..still the best...look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652642
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
I'm not much of a photographer myself, but, bizarrely, the camera spec of a phone is an important factor.
Throughout my years of buying phones, I have seen that Sony has proved themselves, in my eyes, as the best manufacturer of smartphone cameras.
Why?
My first REAL camera phone was the SE K800i, for the time, it was fantastic. I didn't find a phone with a better camera for a while after that.
Then I bought the SE Satio, 12MP at a time when most phones seemed to have 5MP or lower, its flash was incredible and its night pictures were incredible, it even produced better images than my dad's Nokia N8, another 12MP phone released at a later date.
The Xperia arc S was a downgrade in MP to the Satio, but its images were of similar quality.
I then got the Xperia T, which had an awesome 13MP camera.
My Xperia Z has a great camera, but it has one fault; Sony's camera software compresses the image too much.
Overall, I'd say that, at the moment, the Xperia Z/Galaxy S4 have the best cameras (They both use the same sensor).
Probably followed by the HTC One, which can sometimes have worse pictures in light conditions (Though generally better in dark conditions).
For those interested in camera-phones, I'd suggest looking into the yet to be announced Xperia i1, which has a 20.7MP sensor, and an ISO much, much, much, higher than that of the HTC One, theoretically meaning better pictures in low-light conditions.
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Sharp Aquos SH-02e has the best camera right now. I really wonder why it hasn't surpassed the crappy samsung chinese phones that everyone into consumerism seems to think is an awesome phone.
and btw, I have it.
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your openion is respected . but notice that really most the phones are china made even iphones.and htc itself despite the great manifacture it is china made. ould you upload a picture from your faviorite device to have an idea.
i just checked this device.really its a good one.still waiting for your samples
xL3thalTuRdZz said:
I'm not much of a photographer myself, but, bizarrely, the camera spec of a phone is an important factor.
Throughout my years of buying phones, I have seen that Sony has proved themselves, in my eyes, as the best manufacturer of smartphone cameras.
Why?
My first REAL camera phone was the SE K800i, for the time, it was fantastic. I didn't find a phone with a better camera for a while after that.
Then I bought the SE Satio, 12MP at a time when most phones seemed to have 5MP or lower, its flash was incredible and its night pictures were incredible, it even produced better images than my dad's Nokia N8, another 12MP phone released at a later date.
The Xperia arc S was a downgrade in MP to the Satio, but its images were of similar quality.
I then got the Xperia T, which had an awesome 13MP camera.
My Xperia Z has a great camera, but it has one fault; Sony's camera software compresses the image too much.
Overall, I'd say that, at the moment, the Xperia Z/Galaxy S4 have the best cameras (They both use the same sensor).
Probably followed by the HTC One, which can sometimes have worse pictures in light conditions (Though generally better in dark conditions).
For those interested in camera-phones, I'd suggest looking into the yet to be announced Xperia i1, which has a 20.7MP sensor, and an ISO much, much, much, higher than that of the HTC One, theoretically meaning better pictures in low-light conditions.
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at 1st i thought at 1st that u dont intrested in cameras but u r in fact expert.i know you r sony minded and like the sony devices and your welknow rom that i use for my xperia tx.sony is a pioner in digital cameras no doubt.my TX is realy astonishing in the day light but not that good in dark light. we all waiting for xperia i .and i hope u make your rom for that device as it is very fast and smooth.
what you think about nokia cameras?
Alex-V said:
HTC cam..still the best...look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652642
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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thnx for your comment.alex.. do you think the roms that we use can impruve the cam function more than the stock software? and can you giv us an example....
DroidIt! said:
Well I've never had anything by HTC phones but think that my one x probably takes the best photos out of the phones that I've had. Pictures always come out really crisp and sharp unless I'm in really low light. So my vote would be for the one x
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droidit.... do you think the viper rom added more abilities to your device(htc onex) abilities???
Hey guys,
the oneX cam is pretty nice and there is a cool thread from @Shan89 about a glitch which is improving pictures @ night.
When you´re flashing viperX you can choose a camera mod which i think gives more menu options and the ability to save uncompressed jpgs...
correct me if i´m wrong...
the glitch is still working with this mod.
i also like camera fv5 because it supports custom exposure time or whatever its called in english...
you can create bizarre photos in the dark or do some light paintings...
cant speak for other devices... before the hox i used a HTC Prophet
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cant speak for other devices... before the hox i used a HTC Prophet
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sure you are right and no mistakes.thnxx alot for telling me about shan89 thread i missed it. i hope if you try htc one cam.i think you will be intrested..
thanks all I think HTC cameras the best if we compare them with other cams in the same specification
I have never personally tried a Nokia phone but wondered how the Lumia with it's 42 mp camera stacked up against other phones. Don't know if that really makes a difference or not but would be really interested to find out. Hey bldy, yeah I think with all the extra options we get to tweak in the software has made a pretty big difference. I find that I can control a lot more of the variables when it comes to taking pictures. I still do have a standalone Sony cybershot for taking pictures if I know I'm going to be taking a lot of photos,but Ithink our cameras produce pictures about on par with that.
from my Viped out one x
bldysurgeon said:
at 1st i thought at 1st that u dont intrested in cameras but u r in fact expert.i know you r sony minded and like the sony devices and your welknow rom that i use for my xperia tx.sony is a pioner in digital cameras no doubt.my TX is realy astonishing in the day light but not that good in dark light. we all waiting for xperia i .and i hope u make your rom for that device as it is very fast and smooth.
what you think about nokia cameras?
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That reminds me, I need to update that ROM, but can't get the updater-script right.
My dad has had a few Nokia phones, his N8, for example had an 12MP camera which wasn't as good as my Satio (worse pictures in dark light, slight yellow tint in pictures), but compared to other phones, it was still great.
He now has a Nokia Lumia 820 and he hates it. It has an 8MP camera, dual LED flash, but it is simply horrid. Photos are too dark and saturated, and photos with a backlight are terrible. It is one of the worst camera phones I've used.
Nokia only seems to put great cameras onto it's flagship, because from what I have heard, the 920 has a great camera.
An annoying thing with Windows phones is the lack of options for the picture. You can't tweak individual settings for your pictures.
Sent from my 3rd (Yes, that's right: 3rd) Xperia Z
xL3thalTuRdZz said:
That reminds me, I need to update that ROM, but can't get the updater-script right.
My dad has had a few Nokia phones, his N8, for example had an 12MP camera which wasn't as good as my Satio (worse pictures in dark light, slight yellow tint in pictures), but compared to other phones, it was still great.
He now has a Nokia Lumia 820 and he hates it. It has an 8MP camera, dual LED flash, but it is simply horrid. Photos are too dark and saturated, and photos with a backlight are terrible. It is one of the worst camera phones I've used.
Nokia only seems to put great cameras onto it's flagship, because from what I have heard, the 920 has a great camera.
An annoying thing with Windows phones is the lack of options for the picture. You can't tweak individual settings for your pictures.
Sent from my 3rd (Yes, that's right: 3rd) Xperia Z
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i told you .... you are really expert. now tell me,do your rom can add to the picture quality ? programs like sony pravia or else, do u think are better on you rom or other roms rather than stock rom?
DroidIt! said:
I have never personally tried a Nokia phone but wondered how the Lumia with it's 42 mp camera stacked up against other phones. Don't know if that really makes a difference or not but would be really interested to find out. Hey bldy, yeah I think with all the extra options we get to tweak in the software has made a pretty big difference. I find that I can control a lot more of the variables when it comes to taking pictures. I still do have a standalone Sony cybershot for taking pictures if I know I'm going to be taking a lot of photos,but Ithink our cameras produce pictures about on par with that.
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i had a good experiance with nokia devices.i had( nokiaclassic 6200..xpress5800 ,n8,n9,e7)and gaveup with nokia and start the android line.
i liked them cameras but non of them approuched the htc devices.
droidit felch gave this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2235072 about a bug which could be useful for picture quality.try it and u might like it and give us a replay.
bldysurgeon said:
i told you .... you are really expert. now tell me,do your rom can add to the picture quality ? programs like sony pravia or else, do u think are better on you rom or other roms rather than stock rom?
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Bravia Engine can only function on devices with a locked bootloader, if you have an unlocked bootloader, the BE isn't working, and won't for anyone. Ever.
If you have a locked bootloader the BE will be the same on every ROM (Unless somebody ports a newer version).
What you can tell me about the battery and the camera?
i readed alot about those but i cannot found a good answer.
Very importent to me is a good quality camera i like to take a "vintage" photos with the camera.
and the battery,i need a good battery that can handel with normal use and expert use (normal uses is email + whatsapp + instagram etc) (expert is games).
This phone will good for me?
ozal5 said:
What you can tell me about the battery and the camera?
i readed alot about those but i cannot found a good answer.
Very importent to me is a good quality camera i like to take a "vintage" photos with the camera.
and the battery,i need a good battery that can handel with normal use and expert use (normal uses is email + whatsapp + instagram etc) (expert is games).
This phone will good for me?
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Outstanding battery and above average camera. You dont plan to do anything else with it ? Then you should just buy a point and shoot camera with a good sensor. Cheaper, no bugs, better IQ.
Battery is really good. Camera is ok (for a phone). There is a thread in this forum with many examples of pictures. It should help you decide if you like the results.
Camera is OK wished it has ois like nexus 5
If Camera is VERY important, you should buy Sony Xperia Z3. Best android camera + good battery life. On official CM ROMs OPO's camera is so-so Only on RAW you can get pretty photos. But then you have to convert them to JPG, not very convenient.
Battery life is above average, camera is so-so, good in well lit scenes but suffers horrendously in low-light scenarios.
Okay ant the phone is more powerful then GS5?
OPO uses the same SoC as S5 with the OPO having 3gb ram vs 2gb on the S5. The OPO also runs near stock firmware which gives its the edge as the bloatware is less compared to TouchWiz. The S5 has the additional features like IR, heart rate etc. Both are good phones but I prefer the OPO because it's cheaper and runs CM11S out the box.
With the OPO you can easily unlock the bootloader and root away without any issues, with the S5 you have Knox to worry about meaning it could be a pain and warranty issues once Knox is tripped.