just got my watch 2 lte 3 days ago and today i went for my first run. No phone with me only my fenix 3 running watch on my other arm to compare accuracy.
The optical heart rate sensor is actually very accurate so thats a good thing.
But in my case the distance was not correct. On my fenix 3 i had a distance of 10.20 km, while on the huawei i had 10.02km, so thats a significant error. The track on the map was very accurate, no difference with the garmin, no zigzag or strange curves.
I begin to wonder if the huawei might be tracking distance with the step counter instead of using gps, so only using the gps to plot the map.
Also i saw that the total running time was 5 minutes more then the fenix 3! I started and stopped the watches at the same time! Very strange.
And lastly i burned more then 30 percent battery life while running for slightly more then 1 hour! Thats ofcourse with all whistles on; gps, heartrate, lte connection and screen always on. Next time i will shut some things down to see how to bring this percentage down. But the advertised 10h gps time are not true im afraid
Its also a pity huawei health doesnt show me a altitude graph. The watch has a barometer so it should be possible. On the watch itself i could see that i climbed 2m (i live in a flat area) but this information is not showing on the phone.
I will take both watches for a couple of more runs to see if the accuracy situation improves.
I've always found with android that it takes a few days for the battery consumption to stabilise. After a few days restart your watch and phone and see how things go. Turning off wifi when out running without your phone will help.
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I used yestarday to measuring run. I have TomTom runner 2 too. I don't saw any big problem with distance and hearth rate sensor. Yes time per kilometers are little different, it's about 1-2sec. Only problem I have with statistic in Huawei health. TomTom have simply exported data to many app like endomondo, nike+ and many more. Huawei not. TomTom my sport app show you hearth rate in every sec your trace. Huawei not. But it's not big problem. I hope that Huawei update app and give more option to us.
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There are some diffrences between Tomtom and Huawei Health. First Huawei Health.
Tomtom runner 2 app.
These differences are quite normal. I upload my activities (same GPX file) to strava, endomondo and runtastic and I get slightly different results in each site. It depends on how they calculate their stats.... how they calculate the distance based on the GPS points, what they consider to be the beginning of the run, pauses, etc. Huawei Health probably has its own way of doing this as well...
I am also getting a 30% drop in a 1h hour run on my HW2... (using ghostrace and google music). I expected the battery life to be a little better, but it is not too bad, and I don't usually run for more than 1 hour anyway.
BTW... Did any of you find a way to export activities from huawei health???... I like the training programs in huawei health, VO2 estimate, etc... But I had to stop using it, because I can't export TCX files or share the activities on strava, etc. And it seems that if I ever uninstall the app, I will lose all my activities.
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These differences are quite normal. I upload my activities (same GPX file) to strava, endomondo and runtastic and I get slightly different results in each site. It depends on how they calculate their stats.... how they calculate the distance based on the GPS points, what they consider to be the beginning of the run, pauses, etc. Huawei Health probably has its own way of doing this as well...
I am also getting a 30% drop in a 1h hour run on my HW2... (using ghostrace and google music). I expected the battery life to be a little better, but it is not too bad, and I don't usually run for more than 1 hour anyway.
BTW... Did any of you find a way to export activities from huawei health???... I like the training programs in huawei health, VO2 estimate, etc... But I had to stop using it, because I can't export TCX files or share the activities on strava, etc. And it seems that if I ever uninstall the app, I will lose all my activities.
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Same problem. Export....
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There are another exports. First is from Tomtom device. Heart rate is stable and normal. Second from Endomondo app in watch 2. Not good reaction.
BTW... Did any of you find a way to export activities from huawei health???... I like the training programs in huawei health, VO2 estimate, etc... But I had to stop using it, because I can't export TCX files or share the activities on strava, etc. And it seems that if I ever uninstall the app, I will lose all my activities.[/QUOTE]
Huawei Health app can export/share data to Google Fit, MyFitnessPal and UP by Jawbone. I tried Google Fit and is parody.
Another bad thing is battery. 10km run about 1 hour and battery go from 93% to 20%. TomTom runner 2 about 10%down. Yes but TomTom not have Sim card. But HW2 not for long runners.
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strekib said:
Another bad thing is battery. 10km run about 1 hour and battery go from 93% to 20%. TomTom runner 2 about 10%down. Yes but TomTom not have Sim card. But HW2 not for long runners.
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Yes, with the sim card activated during a run, the battery drains fast. A solution is to just activate when you need it during the run.
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Yes, with the sim card activated during a run, the battery drains fast. A solution is to just activate when you need it during the run.
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Hello!
I'm a runner. Because of my job, I need to be available on phone calls. So I decided to try and buy a smart watch.
How long is battery life when using the SIM card and GPS turn on ? I would like to use the Endomondo application.
Can anyone help me with his test?
Thank you!
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Hello!
I'm a runner. Because of my job, I need to be available on phone calls. So I decided to try and buy a smart watch.
How long is battery life when using the SIM card and GPS turn on ? I would like to use the Endomondo application.
Can anyone help me with his test?
Thank you!
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Hi, endomondo works, but heart rate was not fluently normal at last when I used this app. But using with mobile app is simple. You can everything setup in mobile and watch app transfer these setting via bluetooth. Battery life with Sim is about 63% down after my 1hour of run. When I use only Bluetooth and GPS it's about 20% per hour. Google wear not have how disable data transfer. It's bad thing which drain your battery. Other "clever" thing by Google. APN setting you cannot change. Watch have native app by Huawei but without export of data. Only G fit export is possible. Pre-installed app is Rutastic and works fine, but app not full.
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I went for a run today with my Gear S3, leaving my phone at home, so in standalone mode.
Everything was going fine until I stopped and looked at the stats.
I ran short of 10 km in 1 hour 8 min.
The map shows the kilometer markers.
Yet when you look at the distance run, it says 19.02 km!
How the hell does S Health calculate the run distance?
Surely it doesn't use the gps distance!
If you export the gpx file and view it using gps viewer, the distance is correct.
Screenshots from S Health and GPX viewer attached.
Hi Guys,
I am having kind of the same problem ....
I know the distances in the Campus where I run.... I ran with only the Gear S3 on my wrist, the phone left in my car.
While I was running, I knew I had ran about 500 m, but when I looked at the clock, it only sees ~200 m... I got agravated and stopped running ....
If I export to GPX, the distance is correct, the location tracking / waypoints are ~kind off correct ...
So, the bottom line:
- it should have tracked about 500m, only tracked ~200m
- waypoints are a bit off, it shows me running through some buildings
- for the first half of my run, it shows I had 0 km/h ...
I thought maybe I should try running with only GPS, and disable Wireless location?
Unfortunately I can't post images since I am a new user
I've been using it for walks and hikes. It is paired with my Blackberry Priv (an android phone). But the values change when I walk the same route. Since it announces the One Mile point, it is different almost each time I walk the loop. Sometimes it is pretty much the same as other times and others it is definitely off by a block or so.
But I've also been tracking the same walks/hikes/bike rides with other devices and frankly, each shows a different total distance and it can vary by a quarter mile or so. The devices or methods are the Gear S3 Frontier, Nogago Tracks in my phone and a recently acquired Garmin Edge 1000 (bike computer used for walking and hiking, too). Since I don't count on any of them for a survey result, it is okay. But if you are counting on these to help you time your marathon, well, good luck. What is really interesting is that most of them show the exact same track when exported and viewed in Garmin's Mapsource or Basecamp.
Guys, thanks for the replies, but I don't think we're talking about the same thing.
I know the Gear 3 is tracking accurately enough for me, I don't really care about a few hundred meters off result for a 10 km run.
It's when you hit the stop button at the end, S Health suddenly makes a weird calculation for the total distance travelled.
The km markers on the map go nicely up to 10 km, yet it calculates a total distance of 19 km.
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Guys, thanks for the replies, but I don't think we're talking about the same thing.
I know the Gear 3 is tracking accurately enough for me, I don't really care about a few hundred meters off result for a 10 km run.
It's when you hit the stop button at the end, S Health suddenly makes a weird calculation for the total distance travelled.
The km markers on the map go nicely up to 10 km, yet it calculates a total distance of 19 km.
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Hey Evil,
Sorry for bullying into your post. It's great your watch tracks distances accurate while running.
My problem occurs during the run, not tracking accurately while running.
At the end of my run it does not change the "final result" in any way, so my problem is a bit different, I will open a different post for mine.
Thanks,
Cosmin
No problem, cosmincebuc!
All sorts of issues with this watch it seems.
Share your usage...
except of the regular notifications, samsung pay and so... What else? what Apps?
Yes im a new user with this watch after more then 3 years with the Moto 360 - which were great (with Google and android wear...) .
This watch helps me in maintaining a healthy activities.
It reminds me to standup after a long sitting, it tracks for my daily steps, my daily stair climbing, etc.
Is it accurate?.... Yesterday I climbed 3 floor on a row... And nada no evidence for it
To me, this watch is a gimmick. I just wear it like a watch and look at it to tell time.
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Is it accurate?.... Yesterday I climbed 3 floor on a row... And nada no evidence for it
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Yes accurate. I climb 8-10 floors x 3-4 times per day and it shows exactly each time.
Controlling media playback...love that I don't have to take my phone out of my pocket to pause or to skip forward or backward when listening to podcasts.
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Nice
I already have this option with my ear phones... But not limited too
What else?
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I already have this option with my ear phones... But not limited too
What else?
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Is one of the tiny Bluetooth earbuds. I can pause and play with it but can't skip forward and back.
Other favorites are quick reply to texts, controlling home automation with a Smartthings app, grocery list with Our Groceries app, and taking the occasional call on the watch like **** Tracy.
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I've never been one to keep much cash in my wallet, I pay for everything (even a 79 cent Slurpee) with a debit card. So my number one favorite use of the watch is S Pay. It works almost everywhere, I so rarely need my wallet, I usually just leave it in the car.
My other primary use of the watch is phone calls and messages. While the battery won't support 90 minute conference calls, it's perfect for the typically short, 7 - 12 calls and couple dozen messages I usually have in a day. The watch is remotely connected to my phone, which stays at home. When I'm out and about, I keep a tablet nearby for running apps and tasks that aren't suitable for 1" screen.
Not having to carry a phone or a wallet has been a major convenience for me. This level of detachment probably won't fit most people's lifestyle, but on your next vacation, you may want to try it!
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I've never been one to keep much cash in my wallet, I pay for everything (even a 79 cent Slurpee) with a debit card. So my number one favorite use of the watch is S Pay. It works almost everywhere, I so rarely need my wallet, I usually just leave it in the car.
My other primary use of the watch is phone calls and messages. While the battery won't support 90 minute conference calls, it's perfect for the typically short, 7 - 12 calls and couple dozen messages I usually have in a day. The watch is remotely connected to my phone, which stays at home. When I'm out and about, I keep a tablet nearby for running apps and tasks that aren't suitable for 1" screen.
Not having to carry a phone or a wallet has been a major convenience for me. This level of detachment probably won't fit most people's lifestyle, but on your next vacation, you may want to try it!
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Not sure I understand... How do u make calls while connected remotely?
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Not sure I understand... How do u make calls while connected remotely?
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The LTE versions of the watch have a cellular radio. Call functionality exists regardless of whether it's connected via BT, remote connection, or standalone. But differences come into play with regard to caller ID and messages. The BT only watches can't make phone calls when remotely connected via wifi because there is no VoIP app for the watch.
Which one is your favorite and best app when you go for a run?
I don't use Huawei's own app any more because you can't export data.
I used endomondo when I hade a moto 360, but the app is not optimised for huawei watch 2 and android wear 2.0.
Now I use Ghostracer and Strava.
Ghostracer here too, for both running and cycling.
Coming from a Garmin Forerunner watch, it was somewhat difficult first but now as I'm used to the app and synchronizing the data I wouldn't use anything else.
I use the Huawei app because it's interface is cleaner than Google fits. However, with the Huawei watch app on my phone, it syncs to Google fit just fine, so my data is all in one place. Endomondo was the best but as previously said, it's not optimized for aw 2.0. i only use Google fit directly for weight training.
I have also noticed that for some training apps (Strava, Ghostracer and Huawei app) it is possible to start and stop the activity with the bottom button. Thats nice! It could be that you need to have that app as a shortcut on that button for it to work.
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Ghostracer here too, for both running and cycling.
Coming from a Garmin Forerunner watch, it was somewhat difficult first but now as I'm used to the app and synchronizing the data I wouldn't use anything else.
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I also have a Garmin forerunner. I went for a cross country skiing race for 10 hour and I don't think Huawei Watch 2 would last that long.
I have not tested how long the battery last for training (runnning). I have tested to run for an hour with music, GPS and 4G. About 30 % left then. But with the 4G and music disabled, it should last much longer I hope. For several hours I hope.
I highly doubt the hw2 can go longer than 3-4 hours with everything running.
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I highly doubt the hw2 can go longer than 3-4 hours with everything running.
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Some time a have to test a long run or walk with just gps and heart rate (dont know if external strap or the internal drains less battery) active and se how long it lasts. No music and 4G.
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Some time a have to test a long run or walk with just gps and heart rate (dont know if external strap or the internal drains less battery) active and se how long it lasts. No music and 4G.
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With no music and 4g, I believe it can last maybe 8 to 10 hours. I've used only HR and GPS for an hour and the drain was only less than 10 percent. Granted I also use battery setting such as always on but no tilt.
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With no music and 4g, I believe it can last maybe 8 to 10 hours. I've used only HR and GPS for an hour and the drain was only less than 10 percent. Granted I also use battery setting such as always on but no tilt.
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Running for 1h today with no 4G, but google play music offline and connected bluetooth headphones. Battery went from 90% to 58%. So about 30 % down in this case.
Does ghostracer display heart rate for you on the HW2? For me it just says zero all the time. It works with other apps.
Edit: Never mind, just found out you have to enable the sensors in the watch app settings.
powerballad said:
Does ghostracer display heart rate for you on the HW2? For me it just says zero all the time. It works with other apps.
Edit: Never mind, just found out you have to enable the sensors in the watch app settings.
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If you in Ghost racer swype to the right, you have "sensors" and there you can turn on and off "Heart Rate" and other sensors. If you have an external Heart rate sensor strap you will se it here also.
If your have your phone on you (unlikely while running, but might while walking), Google Fit will get your GPS location from your phone instead of watch, saving battery.
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I use the Huawei app because it's interface is cleaner than Google fits. However, with the Huawei watch app on my phone, it syncs to Google fit just fine, so my data is all in one place. Endomondo was the best but as previously said, it's not optimized for aw 2.0. i only use Google fit directly for weight training.
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I use the Huawei watch 1 and i ned to sync my data to strava or garmin app so that i can get vitality points with my insurance. How do i make it so that the Huawei app sync data with strava, ghostrunner or garmin so that i can get points from my insurance? I dont want to have to buy a garmin or a fitbit watch.
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I use the Huawei watch 1 and i ned to sync my data to strava or garmin app so that i can get vitality points with my insurance. How do i make it so that the Huawei app sync data with strava, ghostrunner or garmin so that i can get points from my insurance? I dont want to have to buy a garmin or a fitbit watch.
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I believe you can just download the strava app directly in the play store on the watch and link it to the app on your phone.
Related question...
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I use the Huawei app because it's interface is cleaner than Google fits. However, with the Huawei watch app on my phone, it syncs to Google fit just fine, so my data is all in one place. Endomondo was the best but as previously said, it's not optimized for aw 2.0. i only use Google fit directly for weight training.
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I'm just returned to running after knee injury. Very excited to use the Huawei Watch 2 and intrigued by the VO2Max feature. So I'm using the Huawei watch app which seems to work great. The question i have is about display while running. Next to distance is PACE. While jogging 10:30-11:00 minutes miles, the PACE is displaying anything from 3'43" to 5'45". I can't make sense of it. Its not pace per 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile... And i can't find anywhere to adjust or read about this. Appreciate any feedback!
Same question. But a little different condition.
I just got my Huawei watch 2 yesterday, and it's a BT only version.
And I just realize that it has 3 built in app for running: Huawei's workout, Google fit workout, and runtastic. Can someone explain which one is better between them?
I Found huawei app to be the best from this 3 apps. but strangely it lacks cloud backup so it's big no for me. Your data will be lost if the app would be erased and it WILL happen.
Try to reach huawei support with that matter several time but i only got laconic answers. Huawei - great hardware VERY bad software.
I still use ghostracer standalone all the time because i can connect my bluetooth heart rate monitor with it so i get more accurate readings. On android wear 7.11 i burned around 30 percent an hour with heart rate belt connected, no optical heart rate, barometer on, gps, wifi and lte all on. So i can receive urgent calls during my runs (also to lazy to turn wifi off while not needed).
I was happy with this kind of battery consumption. It was always the same, so i could count on it and i knew i needed to charge prior to my run or not needed.
However since the oreo update came things changed. Suddenly my watch died half way during my runs, and also the runs after that. Now i seem to burn 50 or 60 percent an hour!
I tried deleting and reinstalling the ghostracer wear app, but is still burns way more battery then before. Normal usage seems normal, also on lte. I also noticed that at least once a day i see something downloading related to google TTS.
Today i will go for another run, this time with barometer and other sensors off, lte and wifi.off to see what happens. So far im very dissapointed in the oreo update. I can barely run for an hour or so before getting into trouble, while im training for a 10 miler. Only great thing is the sleep app which is very nice.
Any other ghostracer users experience the same thing?
Does anybody know the units for pacing on Huawei's preinstalled GPS running app? I can't find documentation and it always reads out like 2'50" to 3'30" or so. Even the 3rd party GPS applications seem vague and inaccurate compared to a few Garmin watched I have (as in add 1 to 3 minutes to the pace). Any good ideas or alternative apps?
It's Miles or kilometers depends on your choice.
Don't know if i understood your question but "pace" means how much time in minutes it takes you to run 1Km (or mile)
2'30 means it takes you 2 minutes and 30 seconds to make 1Km (And it also means that you are very fast...)
Sorry if it's obvious and not what you meant.
BTW update on the health app: there is a beta version of the Huawei health app which is far better then the previous one.
Its far more reliable in terms of sync with watch (actually very good as far as i tested it) and finally eliminates the need of the Huawei wear app which is great(!)
You can erase the Huawei wear app after installing the new health app.
Looks like Huawei still care about their app. Shame its still dosent support cloud sync and exporting data. (Export data to google fit is poor and tottaly not aqurate)
Im running like 7km 3 times a week with the watch and
I think it's the best app for running out there (minus the deal breaker cloud sync issue) I used all the big running apps and the health app is my go to running app. Shows the right information in the right time, looks clean and informative and the analysis (vo2max, stride lengh etc) are great.
Hello. I recently started to ride a bike with Strava and track monitoring via watch. I have noticed poor GPS accuracy that makes strava recorded data unusable (max speed >100 kmph, twice more distance due to lost fix...).
Does anyone else observed same issues?
LEO-DLXX (LTE with no sim inserted)
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Hi,
I did not observed this issue on my watch (LTE version). I would event say it is much more acccruate than my phone. But I notice that is not the same in every zone: in some cities, it is OK ans data are usuable, and in others, the GPS is more efficient and I can see which side of the road I was.
Here are some examples of my HWatch2 GPS:
https://ibb.co/iBmcDc
https://ibb.co/fpNHDc
Although I have only used GMaps for navigation, I will say it does give very accurate notifications which has helped me a lot in turning the right turns around 99% of the time compared to relying on only voice navigation on my phone.
Same happens here!
Hi dreamnewbie, Exactly the same thing happens to me, first I thought it was because of the coat, maybe a problem of low signal or the fact of running in the city, some interference by the constructions. after several tests I get to run with short sleeves in open spaces and it's exactly the same, I record the session with the phone and it always measures better, HW2 makes like "peaks" in the route indicating that I got to run at about 40 km/h? !! I do not know if the GPS antenna is very weak or a fault after the upgrade to Wear OS. I love the Huawei propieraty app to run but it is impossible to export workouts to cloud-based services. Regards!
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Do you guys have a third party watch band? I recently changed the original watch band with a metal one. I noticed the metal interfere with the watches sensors like the compass. Also bluetooth range decreased... i guess i could influence gps reception as well. Now i have the original band installed and no problems. I have the watch for almost a year now and used it a lot for running. Never had any accuracy problems, distance and track was spot on....
I also encountered the same problem. .
What is the version of Strava you are using? Is there any solution?
If there is no way, is there any other application that can be used on the watch and synced to Strava?
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I also encountered the same problem. .
What is the version of Strava you are using? Is there any solution?
If there is no way, is there any other application that can be used on the watch and synced to Strava?
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I found out that the issue was interference with wireless bike counter - Kross KRC 319WC. After dismounting counter HW2 track recording is OK.
I go on a regular 5k run which is tracked and run locally as a '5K'...so I know it should be 5k! When using my HW2 watch with Strava I invariably get 4.8k for this same route. I've tried 3 or 4 times now with the same result.
When I use my phone on the same route it tracks 5k on Strava. I would like to not bring my phone with me when running but if I have to then so be it. Question is, I have heard that if the watch detects the phone it will use the phone's GPS. So, what I was thinking was to try this:
1) Run with phone and watch
2) Use Strava on the watch and hope it detects / uses the phones GPS.
3) Record result and see what happens.
Is this likely to result in another 4.8k run or does the watch deferring to the phone's GPS mean I'm more likely to get an accurate reading?
To clarify, the place I run is a park and therefore there are some trees but my Polar watch never had an issue with this and Strava on the HW2 says it has a GPS lock before I set off, so I don't think trees are the problem here.
i've only found the huawei app to work perfectly on the watch itself, while others hit and miss and that includes the built-in runtastic app - some apps you have to start on phone if you want that to record tracking if using the watch, which then makes it pointless wearing the watch.... I had issues with both mapmyfitness and runtastic where it would use the phone gps, but if turn phone off or it runs out of battery it never used the watch gps, so use one or the other...
I've also use only Huawei health built in app, since it records everything in one place - walk, sleep, calories, activity type, etc. I've use runasttic a few times and its seems to work correctly with built in gps.
For runtwstic it was hit and miss with using GPS on Watch, I had to turn off watch for it to trigger. I also found that if you had pro version the built in version wouldn't talk to it and insisted you install basic on phone.
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Interesting. I have just got a HW2C and tried it out running couple of days ago. Did 16.5k run, which strava and run keeper on my phone registered but the health app on watch have me a reading of 15.7km,despite tracking the route of the run perfectly.
Unfortunately this would be a deal breaker for me. Anyone else experienced this? Gonna try the strava app on the watch next time and see if that makes a difference. Any tips on getting the right distance?