HW2 - GPS inaccurate. Strava etc. - Huawei Watch 2

I go on a regular 5k run which is tracked and run locally as a '5K'...so I know it should be 5k! When using my HW2 watch with Strava I invariably get 4.8k for this same route. I've tried 3 or 4 times now with the same result.
When I use my phone on the same route it tracks 5k on Strava. I would like to not bring my phone with me when running but if I have to then so be it. Question is, I have heard that if the watch detects the phone it will use the phone's GPS. So, what I was thinking was to try this:
1) Run with phone and watch
2) Use Strava on the watch and hope it detects / uses the phones GPS.
3) Record result and see what happens.
Is this likely to result in another 4.8k run or does the watch deferring to the phone's GPS mean I'm more likely to get an accurate reading?
To clarify, the place I run is a park and therefore there are some trees but my Polar watch never had an issue with this and Strava on the HW2 says it has a GPS lock before I set off, so I don't think trees are the problem here.

i've only found the huawei app to work perfectly on the watch itself, while others hit and miss and that includes the built-in runtastic app - some apps you have to start on phone if you want that to record tracking if using the watch, which then makes it pointless wearing the watch.... I had issues with both mapmyfitness and runtastic where it would use the phone gps, but if turn phone off or it runs out of battery it never used the watch gps, so use one or the other...

I've also use only Huawei health built in app, since it records everything in one place - walk, sleep, calories, activity type, etc. I've use runasttic a few times and its seems to work correctly with built in gps.

For runtwstic it was hit and miss with using GPS on Watch, I had to turn off watch for it to trigger. I also found that if you had pro version the built in version wouldn't talk to it and insisted you install basic on phone.
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Interesting. I have just got a HW2C and tried it out running couple of days ago. Did 16.5k run, which strava and run keeper on my phone registered but the health app on watch have me a reading of 15.7km,despite tracking the route of the run perfectly.
Unfortunately this would be a deal breaker for me. Anyone else experienced this? Gonna try the strava app on the watch next time and see if that makes a difference. Any tips on getting the right distance?

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How to track a run with GPS?

So I went for my first run with just the watch - no phone. I started the S Health run tracking on the watch as I left. Initially it said it couldn't find location but then this message went away. Throughout the run the location icon on the watch was flashing grey to white. I don't know if this meant actively tracking or trying to find location?
When I came back the data synced over to S-Health on my phone, but there is no map.
I don't know if the distances and speeds have been tracked based on steps and cadence or by GPS?
How is this supposed to work? I presumed the watch GPS data would produce a map when synced with the phone?
It should show you a map in s health. You have to click on the specific run activity though to see it. If it isn't there then maybe GPS wasn't working for some reason. Did it show you the map on the watch in the completed workout summary?
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photojonny said:
So I went for my first run with just the watch - no phone. I started the S Health run tracking on the watch as I left. Initially it said it couldn't find location but then this message went away. Throughout the run the location icon on the watch was flashing grey to white. I don't know if this meant actively tracking or trying to find location?
When I came back the data synced over to S-Health on my phone, but there is no map.
I don't know if the distances and speeds have been tracked based on steps and cadence or by GPS?
How is this supposed to work? I presumed the watch GPS data would produce a map when synced with the phone?
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I have had this happen with other watches and with a Gear Fit 2. I did a run this morning and had the map show up instantly on my watch at the completion of my run (LTE version). When you have the watch in S Health Run mode and hit the start button you will see a small icon at the top left that looks like a balloon, it is the icon for your GPS. It will be flashing. Once it is always on it means you have a GPS lock. Sounds like you never got a lock.
I recommend 2 things. Go outside with your phone and put the watch in run mode. Watch for the GPS icon, it should lock very fast since you have your phone working with the watch. Now put your phone inside or turn it off so you can try a stand alone test. Put the watch into run mode and see if you get a quicker GPS lock.
Good Luck
cdd543 said:
It should show you a map in s health. You have to click on the specific run activity though to see it. If it isn't there then maybe GPS wasn't working for some reason. Did it show you the map on the watch in the completed workout summary?
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Thanks. No map, it's appears it failed to get a lock over the whole run.
Bladder61 said:
I have had this happen with other watches and with a Gear Fit 2. I did a run this morning and had the map show up instantly on my watch at the completion of my run (LTE version). When you have the watch in S Health Run mode and hit the start button you will see a small icon at the top left that looks like a balloon, it is the icon for your GPS. It will be flashing. Once it is always on it means you have a GPS lock. Sounds like you never got a lock.
I recommend 2 things. Go outside with your phone and put the watch in run mode. Watch for the GPS icon, it should lock very fast since you have your phone working with the watch. Now put your phone inside or turn it off so you can try a stand alone test. Put the watch into run mode and see if you get a quicker GPS lock.
Good Luck
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Thanks. I'll try this but a bit concerned it failed to get a lock over the whole run. I hope the GPS chip isn't faulty after the hassle actually getting hold of it.
Edit: I should say I'm in the UK so this is the non LTE version. Don't know if that makes a difference.
I don't think the non LTE has GPS. It would only acquire GPS from your phone.
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I don't think the non LTE has GPS. It would only acquire GPS from your phone.
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Of course it does.
Fozzee1970 said:
Of course it does.
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You don't need the phone. But if you have the phone connected, the connection will be faster as it uses the phone for GPS locking
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Of course it does.
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Yep you're correct. My bad.
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photojonny said:
So I went for my first run with just the watch - no phone. I started the S Health run tracking on the watch as I left. Initially it said it couldn't find location but then this message went away. Throughout the run the location icon on the watch was flashing grey to white. I don't know if this meant actively tracking or trying to find location?
When I came back the data synced over to S-Health on my phone, but there is no map.
I don't know if the distances and speeds have been tracked based on steps and cadence or by GPS?
How is this supposed to work? I presumed the watch GPS data would produce a map when synced with the phone?
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Check your location settings on your Gear. You should have GPS+ wifi not only wifi.
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Bladder61 said:
I have had this happen with other watches and with a Gear Fit 2. I did a run this morning and had the map show up instantly on my watch at the completion of my run (LTE version). When you have the watch in S Health Run mode and hit the start button you will see a small icon at the top left that looks like a balloon, it is the icon for your GPS. It will be flashing. Once it is always on it means you have a GPS lock. Sounds like you never got a lock.
I recommend 2 things. Go outside with your phone and put the watch in run mode. Watch for the GPS icon, it should lock very fast since you have your phone working with the watch. Now put your phone inside or turn it off so you can try a stand alone test. Put the watch into run mode and see if you get a quicker GPS lock.
Good Luck
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So I've tested this out and either I have a faulty device or the S3 is useless. I repeatedly tried to get a GPS lock on a long walk today - in open countryside with no buildings around and under clear skies. The watch connects instantly when using the phone GPS via bluetooth. When I disconnect bluetooth the watch will not connect on it's own at all despite repeated attempts. It will try for around a minute and then say 'cannot connect, move to a more open area' - this is whilst I'm stood in a field k's from the nearest building under a blue sky.
After the hassle I had getting hold of this I'm tempted just just get a refund, but if this is just a faulty unit and they generally work I guess I'll give one replacement a go - though I suspect I'll be waiting weeks for one.
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So I've tested this out and either I have a faulty device or the S3 is useless. I repeatedly tried to get a GPS lock on a long walk today - in open countryside with no buildings around and under clear skies. The watch connects instantly when using the phone GPS via bluetooth. When I disconnect bluetooth the watch will not connect on it's own at all despite repeated attempts. It will try for around a minute and then say 'cannot connect, move to a more open area' - this is whilst I'm stood in a field k's from the nearest building under a blue sky.
After the hassle I had getting hold of this I'm tempted just just get a refund, but if this is just a faulty unit and they generally work I guess I'll give one replacement a go - though I suspect I'll be waiting weeks for one.
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I had carried out similar test this evening, the built in GPS worked when the bluetooth of my phone was off.
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I had carried out similar test this evening, the built in GPS worked when the bluetooth of my phone was off.
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I tried a factory reset and it's now working. I found a thread on a Strava forum where someone had the same problem and switching the watch on and off worked. Must reset the GPS.
It takes around 30-60 secs to get a lock but it has worked since the reset.
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I tried a factory reset and it's now working. I found a thread on a Strava forum where someone had the same problem and switching the watch on and off worked. Must reset the GPS.
It takes around 30-60 secs to get a lock but it has worked since the reset.
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But if you are going for a run do you just stand there for 30-60 after the 3,2,1 countdown? If so, isn't that going to throw off your average mile times?
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But if you are going for a run do you just stand there for 30-60 after the 3,2,1 countdown? If so, isn't that going to throw off your average mile times?
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Yes, a significant design flaw seems to be the inability to get the GPS lock before you start the run as you do with all dedicated running watches. I'm not sure what happens if you start the run then immediately pause it - whether it will continue to try and get the lock. There should be an option to set the lock then start the run. It's far from perfect.
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Yes, a significant design flaw seems to be the inability to get the GPS lock before you start the run as you do with all dedicated running watches. I'm not sure what happens if you start the run then immediately pause it - whether it will continue to try and get the lock. There should be an option to set the lock then start the run. It's far from perfect.
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Yes definitely not a well thought out design of the software. Did they really test it with someone that actually runs?
It was the major reason I returned my Gear Fit 2 and went with a Garmin. I love my Gear S3, and I di exactly what you mentioned, I start the run program and when it counts down 3,2,1 I immediately hit the pause. I then wait a minute and resume it and make sure I have a locked GPS signal.
I went on too many Gear Fit 2 runs only to get back and find out I didn't have a GPS lock so info was estimated and no map info. Maybe Sammy will do a software update to the run program to fix this. Again, did Sammy have any real runners test the watch and give them feedback?
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Yes definitely not a well thought out design of the software. Did they really test it with someone that actually runs?
It was the major reason I returned my Gear Fit 2 and went with a Garmin. I love my Gear S3, and I di exactly what you mentioned, I start the run program and when it counts down 3,2,1 I immediately hit the pause. I then wait a minute and resume it and make sure I have a locked GPS signal.
I went on too many Gear Fit 2 runs only to get back and find out I didn't have a GPS lock so info was estimated and no map info. Maybe Sammy will do a software update to the run program to fix this. Again, did Sammy have any real runners test the watch and give them feedback?
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Yeah It doesn't seem like they did as it lacks some basic functionality you would expect as a runner. I'm finding pace to be off as much as 20-30 seconds per mile compared to strava. I no longer have my fenix or I'd compare that.
Make sure Location is turned on in the settings
I started a thread on XDA comparing the G3 to my Garmin 620. In addition to the GPS issue, the HR wasn't consistent day to day either. I wasn't as concerned with that as I was the GPS. No way did they have somebody actually run with this watch. The lack of lap/split times in the run summary says it all.
Seems like an easy fix to just disregard that whole countdown timer and take you to the run screen so you can see if/when you get a GPS lock. My Garmin has a little satellite that turns solid when it locks. I'd probably get the watch, again, if they resolved this run issue.
After firmware updated today, the built-in GPS locked within 3 to 4 sec (after the count down) without a phone.
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I started a thread on XDA comparing the G3 to my Garmin 620. In addition to the GPS issue, the HR wasn't consistent day to day either. I wasn't as concerned with that as I was the GPS. No way did they have somebody actually run with this watch. The lack of lap/split times in the run summary says it all.
Seems like an easy fix to just disregard that whole countdown timer and take you to the run screen so you can see if/when you get a GPS lock. My Garmin has a little satellite that turns solid when it locks. I'd probably get the watch, again, if they resolved this run issue.
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I'll stick with it for now but it seems 5 mins with an actual runner and some of the problems would have been avoided. How are you supposed to time a race with a 3 2 1 countdown? And does the first part of the run not count whilst it's finding the GPS? If they are going after Garmin's market these are bad oversights.
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After firmware updated today, the built-in GPS locked within 3 to 4 sec (after the count down) without a phone.
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I saw there is an update out. Haven't been able to push it to my device yet. Hopefully it'll show up soon.

Gear S3, S Health, not tracking location during run

Galaxy Samsung S7
Samsung Gear S3 watch
All updated, no outstanding software updates available.
I having the issue where 8 runs out of 10 S Health just stops tracking my distance.
Steps continue to count
Clock continues to count
The issue seems to happen when either I stop running - i.e. waiting to cross a road or when I pass under a bridge (bridge is probably 3 metres)... the watch seems to drop out. Only way is to stop and restart.
The interesting thing is if I stop and restart it works straight away - so that tells me I am within GPS signal.
The problem seems to be that if it drops out, it never can reconnect and start again. I have ran 7km, it has dropped out after 2km - yet for the rest of the other 5km - your telling me that I was never in GPS signal to pick up again ??
Can someone confirm that if I have my watch connected via Bluetooth, is the S Health app taking GPS from the watch itself or from the phone?
autonm said:
Galaxy Samsung S7
Samsung Gear S3 watch
All updated, no outstanding software updates available.
I having the issue where 8 runs out of 10 S Health just stops tracking my distance.
Steps continue to count
Clock continues to count
The issue seems to happen when either I stop running - i.e. waiting to cross a road or when I pass under a bridge (bridge is probably 3 metres)... the watch seems to drop out. Only way is to stop and restart.
The interesting thing is if I stop and restart it works straight away - so that tells me I am within GPS signal.
The problem seems to be that if it drops out, it never can reconnect and start again. I have ran 7km, it has dropped out after 2km - yet for the rest of the other 5km - your telling me that I was never in GPS signal to pick up again ??
Can someone confirm that if I have my watch connected via Bluetooth, is the S Health app taking GPS from the watch itself or from the phone?
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I somehow but dialed I response to your post, smh sorry about that.
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Thanks for that helpful insight !
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Thanks for that helpful insight !
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I have the same issue. I've tried: turning off auto pause, changing type from GPS only, GPS+wireless. I changed distance, adjusted guide, nothing has fixed it. Has been like this since Day 1 for me.
No issues for me. I'm normally tracking with S-Health on the watch and Strava on the phone as S-Health integration into Strava isn't very good.
I thought I read somewhere that when its paired it uses the phone GPS. Try it stand alone and see if it works.
just quick update - I ran 6km + on Sunday - following the same run / trail as I did previous when the S3 bombed out on me. This time I changed the following:
settings - connections - wifi - Off
settings - connections - location - on - methods GPS
It managed to track the entire 6km + without any issues or dropping out. I am running twice again this week and will let you know how it goes...
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just quick update - I ran 6km + on Sunday - following the same run / trail as I did previous when the S3 bombed out on me. This time I changed the following:
settings - connections - wifi - Off
settings - connections - location - on - methods GPS
It managed to track the entire 6km + without any issues or dropping out. I am running twice again this week and will let you know how it goes...
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I'll try that tonight. I had WIFI on.
Wonder if that's the key.
ok so cancel that... had the same settings as Sunday and it failed again tonight after 0.9km
Restarted the tracking again ... failed after 0.2km ... retired again - failed after 0.5km
Something is seriously wrong with the S Health app for tracking..
Next i am going to try a factory restart and see if I can block all notifications from my phone - incase the alerts / pop ups are causing issue....
not good
I have similar issue.
Ok, so I tried the suggested idea of turning off wifi, leaving BT on and GPS only. No change.
I tried turning off wifi, turning off BT. Then using gps and it worked. HOWEVER, it was only 1 test. (Basically watch only)
More testing needed.
Same issue here. Like others, I've tried different combinations of settings (wifi on/off, gps only, auto-pause on/off, etc.). I haven't turned off the Bluetooth connection to the phone, because without notifications, what would be the point - I can buy a dedicated gps watch for less than $50.
However, here are a couple of things I have found that are consistent.
shutting down the gear app on the phone, and restarting it seems to immediately help "location"
doing a reset of the watch, and reconnecting to the phone/app seems to make the s-health record distance consistently and correctly for a few days. HOWEVER, after 3 or 4 days it will stop recording distance during a run. After that, no matter what I do, it is flaky. Sometimes it won't record distance at all, and other times it will record sporadically. After a reset, it will function correctly for 3 or 4 days, and then flake out again.
After reading several threads in several forums, it appears that this is common and Samsung has no response. I really want to like the Gear S3, but this is too much money to spend on a mediocre product.
Samsung Gear S3 works fine, The S-Health app also works fine. The only thing is the working concept is not clearly understood by some people and not well explained by Samsung itself.
If your Samsung Gear S3 has problem tracking your location or distance during cycling or walking activities, here how to solve that:
Condition 1: Your Gear S3 is paired to Phone vie Bluetooth.
In this situation your Gear S3 will rely the location information from your phone.
You do not have to change any setting in your gear S3 ( Bluetooth still on, Wireless on, Location mode GPS & wireless, autopause on)
Make sure your phone Location setting is set to "On" and at "highest accuracy" mode. It means enable all GPS, WiFi and wireless networks for location searching from your phone.
Make sure your phone is not in "Power Saving" mode, because it limits the location tracking ability from your phone.
In this way your gear S3 can track your location, map your distance, and generate the route correctly. Even autopause works correctly and precisely.
Any location tracking faulty in this situation is mostly your phone location tracking faulty.
(You can test your phone tracking problem by running with your phone and S-Health app installed on it separately from your Gear S3)
Condition 2: Your Gear S3 is disconnected from the phone (stand alone)
In case you are not sure your phone can track location correctly in certain condition or you want to save your phone battery, disconnect your Gear from the phone. (Bluetooth Off, Wirelss Off, Location On- GPS & wireless / GPS only, or just simply press flight mode)
In stand alone mode, your Gear S3 will rely on its own GPS.
In this way your gear S3 can track your location, map your distance, and generate the route correctly (without detailed maps). Even autopause works correctly and precisely. The cycling and walking data will be synced to your phone after it is connected again.
Before starting your activity, make sure Gear's GPS has found your location.
At the first time you are using "standalone" mode, Gear may need some time (around 1-3 minutes) for GPS to locate your position. The small location (balloon) icon is blinking when searching and turns solid when it has found your location. Once is done, next time you use standalone GPS mode, it will locate you quickly.
At the first time you are using "standalone" mode after switching from phone connected mode, it's a good practice to restart your watch especially if it takes too long to find your location at first.
I hope this helps. I have tested it consistently on my Gear S3 Frontier, and my phone is Samsung Galaxy S6.

Best app for running

Which one is your favorite and best app when you go for a run?
I don't use Huawei's own app any more because you can't export data.
I used endomondo when I hade a moto 360, but the app is not optimised for huawei watch 2 and android wear 2.0.
Now I use Ghostracer and Strava.
Ghostracer here too, for both running and cycling.
Coming from a Garmin Forerunner watch, it was somewhat difficult first but now as I'm used to the app and synchronizing the data I wouldn't use anything else.
I use the Huawei app because it's interface is cleaner than Google fits. However, with the Huawei watch app on my phone, it syncs to Google fit just fine, so my data is all in one place. Endomondo was the best but as previously said, it's not optimized for aw 2.0. i only use Google fit directly for weight training.
I have also noticed that for some training apps (Strava, Ghostracer and Huawei app) it is possible to start and stop the activity with the bottom button. Thats nice! It could be that you need to have that app as a shortcut on that button for it to work.
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Ghostracer here too, for both running and cycling.
Coming from a Garmin Forerunner watch, it was somewhat difficult first but now as I'm used to the app and synchronizing the data I wouldn't use anything else.
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I also have a Garmin forerunner. I went for a cross country skiing race for 10 hour and I don't think Huawei Watch 2 would last that long.
I have not tested how long the battery last for training (runnning). I have tested to run for an hour with music, GPS and 4G. About 30 % left then. But with the 4G and music disabled, it should last much longer I hope. For several hours I hope.
I highly doubt the hw2 can go longer than 3-4 hours with everything running.
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I highly doubt the hw2 can go longer than 3-4 hours with everything running.
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Some time a have to test a long run or walk with just gps and heart rate (dont know if external strap or the internal drains less battery) active and se how long it lasts. No music and 4G.
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Some time a have to test a long run or walk with just gps and heart rate (dont know if external strap or the internal drains less battery) active and se how long it lasts. No music and 4G.
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With no music and 4g, I believe it can last maybe 8 to 10 hours. I've used only HR and GPS for an hour and the drain was only less than 10 percent. Granted I also use battery setting such as always on but no tilt.
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With no music and 4g, I believe it can last maybe 8 to 10 hours. I've used only HR and GPS for an hour and the drain was only less than 10 percent. Granted I also use battery setting such as always on but no tilt.
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Running for 1h today with no 4G, but google play music offline and connected bluetooth headphones. Battery went from 90% to 58%. So about 30 % down in this case.
Does ghostracer display heart rate for you on the HW2? For me it just says zero all the time. It works with other apps.
Edit: Never mind, just found out you have to enable the sensors in the watch app settings.
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Does ghostracer display heart rate for you on the HW2? For me it just says zero all the time. It works with other apps.
Edit: Never mind, just found out you have to enable the sensors in the watch app settings.
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If you in Ghost racer swype to the right, you have "sensors" and there you can turn on and off "Heart Rate" and other sensors. If you have an external Heart rate sensor strap you will se it here also.
If your have your phone on you (unlikely while running, but might while walking), Google Fit will get your GPS location from your phone instead of watch, saving battery.
Devolution1x said:
I use the Huawei app because it's interface is cleaner than Google fits. However, with the Huawei watch app on my phone, it syncs to Google fit just fine, so my data is all in one place. Endomondo was the best but as previously said, it's not optimized for aw 2.0. i only use Google fit directly for weight training.
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I use the Huawei watch 1 and i ned to sync my data to strava or garmin app so that i can get vitality points with my insurance. How do i make it so that the Huawei app sync data with strava, ghostrunner or garmin so that i can get points from my insurance? I dont want to have to buy a garmin or a fitbit watch.
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I use the Huawei watch 1 and i ned to sync my data to strava or garmin app so that i can get vitality points with my insurance. How do i make it so that the Huawei app sync data with strava, ghostrunner or garmin so that i can get points from my insurance? I dont want to have to buy a garmin or a fitbit watch.
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I believe you can just download the strava app directly in the play store on the watch and link it to the app on your phone.
Related question...
Devolution1x said:
I use the Huawei app because it's interface is cleaner than Google fits. However, with the Huawei watch app on my phone, it syncs to Google fit just fine, so my data is all in one place. Endomondo was the best but as previously said, it's not optimized for aw 2.0. i only use Google fit directly for weight training.
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I'm just returned to running after knee injury. Very excited to use the Huawei Watch 2 and intrigued by the VO2Max feature. So I'm using the Huawei watch app which seems to work great. The question i have is about display while running. Next to distance is PACE. While jogging 10:30-11:00 minutes miles, the PACE is displaying anything from 3'43" to 5'45". I can't make sense of it. Its not pace per 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile... And i can't find anywhere to adjust or read about this. Appreciate any feedback!
Same question. But a little different condition.
I just got my Huawei watch 2 yesterday, and it's a BT only version.
And I just realize that it has 3 built in app for running: Huawei's workout, Google fit workout, and runtastic. Can someone explain which one is better between them?
I Found huawei app to be the best from this 3 apps. but strangely it lacks cloud backup so it's big no for me. Your data will be lost if the app would be erased and it WILL happen.
Try to reach huawei support with that matter several time but i only got laconic answers. Huawei - great hardware VERY bad software.
I still use ghostracer standalone all the time because i can connect my bluetooth heart rate monitor with it so i get more accurate readings. On android wear 7.11 i burned around 30 percent an hour with heart rate belt connected, no optical heart rate, barometer on, gps, wifi and lte all on. So i can receive urgent calls during my runs (also to lazy to turn wifi off while not needed).
I was happy with this kind of battery consumption. It was always the same, so i could count on it and i knew i needed to charge prior to my run or not needed.
However since the oreo update came things changed. Suddenly my watch died half way during my runs, and also the runs after that. Now i seem to burn 50 or 60 percent an hour!
I tried deleting and reinstalling the ghostracer wear app, but is still burns way more battery then before. Normal usage seems normal, also on lte. I also noticed that at least once a day i see something downloading related to google TTS.
Today i will go for another run, this time with barometer and other sensors off, lte and wifi.off to see what happens. So far im very dissapointed in the oreo update. I can barely run for an hour or so before getting into trouble, while im training for a 10 miler. Only great thing is the sleep app which is very nice.
Any other ghostracer users experience the same thing?
Does anybody know the units for pacing on Huawei's preinstalled GPS running app? I can't find documentation and it always reads out like 2'50" to 3'30" or so. Even the 3rd party GPS applications seem vague and inaccurate compared to a few Garmin watched I have (as in add 1 to 3 minutes to the pace). Any good ideas or alternative apps?
It's Miles or kilometers depends on your choice.
Don't know if i understood your question but "pace" means how much time in minutes it takes you to run 1Km (or mile)
2'30 means it takes you 2 minutes and 30 seconds to make 1Km (And it also means that you are very fast...)
Sorry if it's obvious and not what you meant.
BTW update on the health app: there is a beta version of the Huawei health app which is far better then the previous one.
Its far more reliable in terms of sync with watch (actually very good as far as i tested it) and finally eliminates the need of the Huawei wear app which is great(!)
You can erase the Huawei wear app after installing the new health app.
Looks like Huawei still care about their app. Shame its still dosent support cloud sync and exporting data. (Export data to google fit is poor and tottaly not aqurate)
Im running like 7km 3 times a week with the watch and
I think it's the best app for running out there (minus the deal breaker cloud sync issue) I used all the big running apps and the health app is my go to running app. Shows the right information in the right time, looks clean and informative and the analysis (vo2max, stride lengh etc) are great.

Issue with standalone GPS apps

Hi everyone!
I got my HW2 from one month now, and I really love it! Everything is wotking fine, except one thing I am not able to understand: the GPS.
I would like like to use the GPS without using my phone but here is what I can do and what I cannot:
- I can use Viewranger to follow a route, so GPS is working in standalone in this app and in this mode: great!
- I cannot use Viewranger for tracking and recording my GPS watch. I think it comes from the app which is designed to use the GPS phone in this mode. I hope this feature will be available in the future.
- I downloaded Ghost app, which can track and record GPS with a standalone watch mode, but here is the problem: when my phone is connected (and my GPS phone enabled) it works perfectly tracking data from my watch (I know that because the sensor is far more accurate than my phone). But if my phone is not connected (or my GPS phone disabled), even in standalone mode, my watch records nothing.... (of course my watch location is enabled and there is no permission problem with the app).
So.... Am I missing someting or maybe do I have to change some parameters?
Thank you for your help!
Has nobody experienced this problem with the GPS not working in standalone mode?
I use Strava on my watch and leave my phone at home.
The watch records my distance and when I get back home the watch syncs with the phone automatically and I can see the route i ran on the phone app.
I suppose I would like it to be able to see the map on my watch screen...but this doesn't seem to be offered.
Stand alone gps is working tho...that's for sure.
Wait. So you guys have a simcard in the watch and it's not uploading instantly, but waits to be connected to the phone again? Makes no sense.
I use ghostracer all the time on my watch while leaving the phone at home. Works perfectly. I have the LTE version. GPS locks in 10 or 15 seconds and never have issues with it. Perfect tracking. When i finish the run before i connect to the phone my track instantly uploads to ghostracer and strava. All automaticaly. Only thing i have enabled in ghostracer phone app under android wear settings is 'force watch gps'. So it will always use the watches GPS, even when you are still connected to the phone
Thank you very much for your answers. I tried again, and now it works perfectly...
- When I start GhostTracer with GPS watch only and bluetooth connexion to my phone: OK
- When I start GhostTracer with GPS watch only without any connexion (LTE / BT): OK
So I don't know if it comes from the several updates, or if I misunderstood something, but I'm ok with that =)
Thanks again!
Huawei watch 2 GPS doesn't work for me
valentin8709 said:
Thank you very much for your answers. I tried again, and now it works perfectly...
- When I start GhostTracer with GPS watch only and bluetooth connexion to my phone: OK
- When I start GhostTracer with GPS watch only without any connexion (LTE / BT): OK
So I don't know if it comes from the several updates, or if I misunderstood something, but I'm ok with that =)
Thanks again!
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@valentin8709 @glenner05 @mitchward1971 I bought Huawei watch 2 recently and built-in GPS doesn't work for me. Mine has Wear OS 2.3 version installed. Please, would you tell me which Wear OS version is running your watch and if it still works? I talked to another HW2 user and he told me he is running Wear OS 2.0 version and GPS works for him. So I suspect Google killed this functionality with its latest update.
And why not use the Huawei Exercice mode on the watch ?
Iv'e had the watch for a couple of months now and use Strava to track my runs and bike rides and the results are very inconsistent. Anyone else have this issue?

Huawei Watch 2 - GPS accuracy

Hello. I recently started to ride a bike with Strava and track monitoring via watch. I have noticed poor GPS accuracy that makes strava recorded data unusable (max speed >100 kmph, twice more distance due to lost fix...).
Does anyone else observed same issues?
LEO-DLXX (LTE with no sim inserted)
WearOS 1.0
OREO
Hi,
I did not observed this issue on my watch (LTE version). I would event say it is much more acccruate than my phone. But I notice that is not the same in every zone: in some cities, it is OK ans data are usuable, and in others, the GPS is more efficient and I can see which side of the road I was.
Here are some examples of my HWatch2 GPS:
https://ibb.co/iBmcDc
https://ibb.co/fpNHDc
Although I have only used GMaps for navigation, I will say it does give very accurate notifications which has helped me a lot in turning the right turns around 99% of the time compared to relying on only voice navigation on my phone.
Same happens here!
Hi dreamnewbie, Exactly the same thing happens to me, first I thought it was because of the coat, maybe a problem of low signal or the fact of running in the city, some interference by the constructions. after several tests I get to run with short sleeves in open spaces and it's exactly the same, I record the session with the phone and it always measures better, HW2 makes like "peaks" in the route indicating that I got to run at about 40 km/h? !! I do not know if the GPS antenna is very weak or a fault after the upgrade to Wear OS. I love the Huawei propieraty app to run but it is impossible to export workouts to cloud-based services. Regards!
LEO-BX9 (no LTE)
WearOS 1.1
Nexus 6P OREO 8.1.0
Do you guys have a third party watch band? I recently changed the original watch band with a metal one. I noticed the metal interfere with the watches sensors like the compass. Also bluetooth range decreased... i guess i could influence gps reception as well. Now i have the original band installed and no problems. I have the watch for almost a year now and used it a lot for running. Never had any accuracy problems, distance and track was spot on....
I also encountered the same problem. .
What is the version of Strava you are using? Is there any solution?
If there is no way, is there any other application that can be used on the watch and synced to Strava?
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I also encountered the same problem. .
What is the version of Strava you are using? Is there any solution?
If there is no way, is there any other application that can be used on the watch and synced to Strava?
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I found out that the issue was interference with wireless bike counter - Kross KRC 319WC. After dismounting counter HW2 track recording is OK.

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