Phone radio battery drain is high although you have excellent coverage ? Here is why - Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers

My S8 plus had terrible battery life compared to the reviews . I get an average of 3-5 hours of SOT
i opened the stock android battery monitor and couldn't see what was eating up My battery so i downloaded the gsam monitor and found out that the phone radio was totaling a 60-70% of my consumption even exceeding my screen power consumption.
But i had excellent coverage(always full bars and -70 to -60 dbms)why would my phone radio consumption be that high ??
And my phone could last up to 11 hours of screen on time with continuous wifi websurfing with no mobile data usage so i know it isnt defective
Well i decided to do some research and testing.
In my country the cellphone network companies signed a national roaming agreement in an attempt to allow better coverage , which basically means that i can connect to any tower in my country even if its not the one that belongs to my provider. Which makes my phone always looking for the tower that has a stronger signal and switching to it.
I then decided to put that theory to the test and downloaded an app that lets me see the towers i am connected to
Check out the madness
https://youtu.be/n1VEjeskadU
3 towers in an area of less than 300 meters raduis and my phone keeps switching up between them .
So no matter what i do i will get the battery life of a roaming device ?

Chuck 3310 said:
My S8 plus had terrible battery life compared to the reviews . I get an average of 3-5 hours of SOT
i opened the stock android battery monitor and couldn't see what was eating up My battery so i downloaded the gsam monitor and found out that the phone radio was totaling a 60-70% of my consumption even exceeding my screen power consumption.
But i had excellent coverage(always full bars and -70 to -60 dbms)why would my phone radio consumption be that high ??
And my phone could last up to 11 hours of screen on time with continuous wifi websurfing with no mobile data usage so i know it isnt defective
Well i decided to do some research and testing.
In my country the cellphone network companies signed a national roaming agreement in an attempt to allow better coverage , which basically means that i can connect to any tower in my country even if its not the one that belongs to my provider. Which makes my phone always looking for the tower that has a stronger signal and switching to it.
I then decided to put that theory to the test and downloaded an app that lets me see the towers i am connected to
Check out the madness
https://youtu.be/n1VEjeskadU
3 towers in an area of less than 300 meters raduis and my phone keeps switching up between them .
So no matter what i do i will get the battery life of a roaming device ?
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That the same issue i am facing here. I'm using lycamobile during my visit in germany and i noticed a heavy battery drain during the standby. Usually i disconnect my phone from the charger before i sleep so i always loose arround 6 to 7% also i can confirm that roaming is actually consumes lots of juice specially mobile data. While in wifi network the battery life is great.
Try to use a local sim card like Vodafone or etesalat and compare it to the one you are using. Cheers
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Amar.B said:
That the same issue i am facing here. I'm using lycamobile during my visit in germany and i noticed a heavy battery drain during the standby. Usually i disconnect my phone from the charger before i sleep so i always loose arround 6 to 7% also i can confirm that roaming is actually consumes lots of juice specially mobile data. While in wifi network the battery life is great.
Try to use a local sim card like Vodafone or etesalat and compare it to the one you are using. Cheers
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I do have a local line which is orange previously was mobinil . You missed the point I am not talking about international roaming . The issue is national roaming in egypt . As since 2007 the 3 major companies signed an agreement

Chuck 3310 said:
I do have a local line which is orange previously was mobinil . You missed the point I am not talking about international roaming . The issue is national roaming in egypt . As since 2007 the 3 major companies signed an agreement
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Aha i got your point now. Well i am not sure how you are going to solve this problem as you can't do nothing about it. Have you experienced the same issues with your previous android phones!
You shouldn't have any problems with battery as your network provider assigns automatically to the nearest tower to insure the best network reception.
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Amar.B said:
Aha i got your point now. Well i am not sure how you are going to solve this problem as you can't do nothing about it. Have you experienced the same issues with your previous android phones!
You shouldn't have any problems with battery as your network provider assigns automatically to the nearest tower to insure the best network reception.
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The constant connection and disconnection from towers does drain battery
My previous smartphones always had a battery life that is sub par with reviews

So today i activated tge 4g service on my sim card as the national roaming doesnt work on 4g . And to have 4g u have to be connected to your providers tower only ... and guess what ?
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That SOT was continuous surfing using 4g and 20 mins of youtube using wifi and a mere 15 mins of playing fallout shelter
This is astonishing for me

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Cell STANDBY 83% ??????

Anyone else having this ISSUE? My last phones all had like 4-6% standby time on the battery. But this g2x has been 64-83%. If this can get fixed I think my battery will be much much better!
What can be causing this?
when you say 64-83% how many hours has it been in standby? What else is using the battery? I know the G2X in my office has like 70% standby but that's standby from 14 hours and it's still at 92% battery life. (work phone so pretty much just sitting in the office until we need it)
Standby usually drains faster if you're in an area with no cell signal from what I've noticed.
gqkevyn said:
Standby usually drains faster if you're in an area with no cell signal from what I've noticed.
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This is very important to note. As the signal gets lower, your antenna has to increase power to maintain a connection with the tower. The lower your signal, the more battery required to keep a connection
My cell standby has been alot more then my display and I don't have it in standby. What is odd. My network connection says utms yet I have 4g showing and speedtest is 4-7mb dl. I can unplug my phone leave it on for an hour loose about 15-20% battery with it like at 70%+ cell standby. It's odd...
Maybe it's the 4g cell struggling to connect?
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Do you have a lot of Widgets pulling data?
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I have the same widgets on the G2x that I have on my Nexus S. I have pure calendar and pure calendar agenda both set to update when the calendar updates. I am still leaning towards more with the 4G struggeling or something.
I've always thought umts was pure 3G while hspa was an update to that which in turn you could get the hspa+. However my connection always says umts, yet I do get way above 3mb dl on the speedtest. It always gets between 4-7mb dl.
The battery life on this android reminds me of when I had the Eris, just blah!!
pinbak said:
My cell standby has been alot more then my display and I don't have it in standby. What is odd. My network connection says utms yet I have 4g showing and speedtest is 4-7mb dl. I can unplug my phone leave it on for an hour loose about 15-20% battery with it like at 70%+ cell standby. It's odd...
Maybe it's the 4g cell struggling to connect?
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I have the EXACT same issue with cell standby. I think it's the 4g connection as mine is constantly switching between 4g and 2g (never 3G)
I can't remember can you click on the "cell standby" tab in 2.2 to get additional information? It will usually say something like xx% time without signal.
yes you can click on it but that option is not showing. I was thinking just like I could my Eris was place into airplane mode take it out and it would correct the cell standby issue. But the xx% without signal is not showing. Well at least on mine it doesn't.
I don't think it ever says 3G. Mine goes from 4G to 2g. I just traveled to Indianapolis and pulled 6mb down but at home we don't have 4g yet even though it says 4g. My download at home was the same as my nexus one = 700k
So while I see it drop to 2g... I think they replaced the 3G icon with a straight 4G icon.
Plus I thought utms was edge?
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Same here with the cell standby... Battery life isn't that terrible for me though (six hours down to 75 percent). Still this seems to be a big problem. Can we somehow force it to just use 3G for the time being?
Make air plane mode your best friend when your not using it. It could be widgets your using
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runderekrun said:
Same here with the cell standby... Battery life isn't that terrible for me though (six hours down to 75 percent). Still this seems to be a big problem. Can we somehow force it to just use 3G for the time being?
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Wish there was that option. But we can only set it to 2g now
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Northern Cali has no 4g and mine always says 4g. Same issue here tho... cell standby way to hi
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I was having the same issue, and battery life was terrible.
Performing a full factory reset as well as completely draining the battery several times solved the issue for me.
Before the factory reset Battery Monitor was reporting heavy battery use even while idle, after the reset it only uses 2-5mA while idle compared to over 150mA before.
Today I went from 5:45 AM to 4:30 PM and am only down to 70% charge left.
same exact issue here. My usage habits have not change from my mytouch 4g which only showed a few percent of cell standy and phone idle. I dont get it, but i think that is what is killing my battery.
Suprah said:
Wish there was that option. But we can only set it to 2g now
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We do have that option. Settings-->Wireless Networks --> Mobile Networks-->Network Mode --> WCDMA Only (3G & 4G Only)
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We do have that option. Settings-->Wireless Networks --> Mobile Networks-->Network Mode --> WCDMA Only (3G & 4G Only)
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Not the same. We want an option for JUST 3g as the problem (with the cell standby) seems to be a weak 4g signal...
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I hate Widgets so I'm not using any at all.
Mine was also jumping from 4G to 2G.... Odd
jink25 said:
I was having the same issue, and battery life was terrible.
Performing a full factory reset as well as completely draining the battery several times solved the issue for me.
Before the factory reset Battery Monitor was reporting heavy battery use even while idle, after the reset it only uses 2-5mA while idle compared to over 150mA before.
Today I went from 5:45 AM to 4:30 PM and am only down to 70% charge left.
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I'm glad it worked for you but I am a little confused as to how could this fix this problem?

Battery life is bad because of the radio

I'm on the EagleBlood Rom and currently in Singapore. Becsause I'm not using T-Mobiles expensive service and WLAN is here everywhere I have used the phone with WLAN + GPS only (Airplane mode + manual turned on WLAN + GPS). I used Locus Pro extensivly to navigate through the city and record my track. Battery after first day 8:00AM til 9:00PM was 79%. Second day is 55%.
Therefore the Cell Standby is really the issue here I would asume. But hack what do I have a cell phone for if I can't turn on the radio???
Battery really sucks otherwise. When I go to work at 07:30am and come home at 4:30PM I can put the phone on the charger, even though I barly used it.
I'm in the states, this phone lasts from about 7:30 AM until 8:00 PM with no problem, regular use, 4G all day. I disabled the Wifi which helped a lot.
Wifi uses less battery due to not having to poll the network to renew the connection. Wifi calling uses even less battery because now you have no connection to the network and it can keep a static connection to the wifi network. No need to renew that connection so it just sits there and does nothing.
I've tested and confirmed this on more than one phone.
And of course the radio is using battery. It's second only to the display in battery use. Like you said, what good is a cell phone without having the radio enabled?
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Wifi uses less battery due to not having to poll the network to renew the connection. Wifi calling uses even less battery because now you have no connection to the network and it can keep a static connection to the wifi network. No need to renew that connection so it just sits there and does nothing.
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This all true. Display and 3G/4G radio are the killers.
Unless you have wifi on and aren't connected to a network. Then your phone is polling for wifi connections in addition to 4G
Yay! Yet another battery thread that I get to comment on!
i use wifi/wifi-calling over 95% of the time and my battery rocks! The moment I turn it off... bam.... I get crappy life on a batter. the difference is from around 35hr and drops to around 20. Then if i had moderate to heavy use on it, I'm sure I'd be getting the 8hrs everyone is complaining about.
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hire4blood said:
I'm on the EagleBlood Rom and currently in Singapore. Becsause I'm not using T-Mobiles expensive service and WLAN is here everywhere I have used the phone with WLAN + GPS only (Airplane mode + manual turned on WLAN + GPS). I used Locus Pro extensivly to navigate through the city and record my track. Battery after first day 8:00AM til 9:00PM was 79%. Second day is 55%.
Therefore the Cell Standby is really the issue here I would asume. But hack what do I have a cell phone for if I can't turn on the radio???
Battery really sucks otherwise. When I go to work at 07:30am and come home at 4:30PM I can put the phone on the charger, even though I barly used it.
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I'm going to Hong Kong this Sunday, then will be in Singapore by the end of next Wednesday. I'm thinking to buy a local sim and use 2g only with manual WLAN, GPS off.
Agreed. I'm running CM7 #9. Took the phone off the charger at 8am. Checked my push exchange, twitter, and facebook updates. Went into work where we have no service. I have WiFi turned on for data.
I still have the cellular radio on, btw. At 3pm I have 88%.
CM7 has a WiFi bug which the WiFi won't stay on (goes to sleep with the screen off). But still pretty good.
it has been proved that 4g kills battery faster then 3g and 2g. http://blog.lifehacker.com/5741627/why-you-might-want-to-wait-for-a-4g-phone until there is a way for 4g radios to manage data more efficiently 4g is gonna kill you battery.
I'm using Eagle Blood 1.03 and my battery life is awesome right now. I think at this point, I could do a couple days before running out. I am just speculating right now, but I will try to leave off the charger tonight to see what I can get out of it.
cervantesjc said:
it has been proved that 4g kills battery faster then 3g and 2g. http://blog.lifehacker.com/5741627/why-you-might-want-to-wait-for-a-4g-phone until there is a way for 4g radios to manage data more efficiently 4g is gonna kill you battery.
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If you saying only 4G I cannot share the expirience with you. I even turned of data completly, while I was still in the US and still got bad battery life with ONLY the radio turned on (WLAN + Data + GPS turned off)
jdaclutch said:
I'm going to Hong Kong this Sunday, then will be in Singapore by the end of next Wednesday. I'm thinking to buy a local sim and use 2g only with manual WLAN, GPS off.
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Hong Kong Airport has free WLAN. Singapore has free wirless LAN called [email protected] through the whole downtown area. But there is a catch you have to have a Singapore Mobile number to register. They will send you the UserID and Password via text message. Lucky me I have a friend here sharing his user ID with me ... Therefore no need for the Radio to be turned on at all. And like I said the battery now last forever...
hire4blood said:
If you saying only 4G I cannot share the expirience with you. I even turned of data completly, while I was still in the US and still got bad battery life with ONLY the radio turned on (WLAN + Data + GPS turned off)
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Ok let me see if i understand (not trying to be a **** here), if all of the phone functions are turned off, what were you doing?, playing games?, watching videos?, i don't know, because to me it sounds like you phone was idle.
One more example that 4g kills battery is the thunderbolt, if you think that the G2x kills battery you should use that phone and comeback to the G2x, even HTC is selling bigger batteries for thunderbolt because customers are *****ing about the battery life.
You should try and use 2g only and see if this helps you battery life a little, i guess im just lucky, i have no screen bleed, no reboots and battery life for me is awesome, whit and without 4g.
cervantesjc said:
Ok let me see if i understand (not trying to be a **** here), if all of the phone functions are turned off, what were you doing?, playing games?, watching videos?, i don't know, because to me it sounds like you phone was idle.
One more example that 4g kills battery is the thunderbolt, if you think that the G2x kills battery you should use that phone and comeback to the G2x, even HTC is selling bigger batteries for thunderbolt because customers are *****ing about the battery life.
You should try and use 2g only and see if this helps you battery life a little, i guess im just lucky, i have no screen bleed, no reboots and battery life for me is awesome, whit and without 4g.
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Dude all the functions are turned on except the radio. I use the phone in airplane mode with WLAN + GPS enabled. I use GPS apps to track my way to Singapore. In downtown they have free WLAN everywhere. Phone last for 2 days this way, but makes no sence of course having a phone without a radio...
Oh and I use Sipdroid with Sipgate to receive and do free phone calls
cervantesjc said:
it has been proved that 4g kills battery faster then 3g and 2g. http://blog.lifehacker.com/5741627/why-you-might-want-to-wait-for-a-4g-phone until there is a way for 4g radios to manage data more efficiently 4g is gonna kill you battery.
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Just making sure here, but you know that T-Mobile's 4G is still using the same existing 3G connections, thus not requiring it to run on a different band, right? HSPA/HSPA+ connections share the same bands, and thus the "4G" connection is running through the same radio without affecting battery life. WiMAX and LTE operate differently and both run seperate from the EVDO that Verizon and Sprint use for their 3G.
That being said, a radio, regardless, will always drain the battery faster than anything, which is why Wifi Calling is so effective in keeping high battery life.
The other HSPA+ enabled phones on T-Mobile are getting fantastic battery life, as long as you aren't constantly using the displays.
I am leaning to believe that's a major reason why everyone's phones are dying so fast. They've got a new toy so they're always playing with it and killing it quickly. I've done that with every new phone I've gotten. My G1, the Cliq, the myTouch Slide, and now this. Give it a few days and when you're not turning the screen on every five seconds to just flick around the menus, and you'll see your life improve.
Yesterday, for example, I ran my phone off of charge from 11 AM EST until 6 AM EST (6 AM, Monday Morning). This was with moderate use.
Its not just that we're playing with our new toys. This phone most definitely drains battery like its going out of style. I had to drive 90 minutes to the client I was coming to work with today. I unplugged my phone when I left my hotel room (and it was at 100%) and when I got to the office, 2hours and 15 minutes later, having never turned my phone on since I was driving the whole time, my phone was at 82%. That's really bad for a phone idling. I think there's a radio bug or its polling too often because if I let JuiceDefender work, then in the same period of time this evening I was at 94% battery. That's a big difference.
hire4blood said:
Hong Kong Airport has free WLAN. Singapore has free wirless LAN called [email protected] through the whole downtown area. But there is a catch you have to have a Singapore Mobile number to register. They will send you the UserID and Password via text message. Lucky me I have a friend here sharing his user ID with me ... Therefore no need for the Radio to be turned on at all. And like I said the battery now last forever...
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I know HK airport has free WLAN, but places like starbucks/Mcd only offer 30 mins- 2 hours of free WLAN a day.I will be in HK for a month(after I got back from Singapore), so I might need to purchase a pre-paid internet plan..I will be in Singapore for a week, so hopefully they will have unlimited free WLAN there...
IT'S NOT 4G THAT'S KILLING BATTERY. As was stated above it uses the existing 3G network for faster data speeds. Phones like the Thunderbolt and EVO (and anything else that connects to WIMAX or LTE) need a completely separate radio (and thus controller) to connect to 4G.
HSPA+ is just really fast 3G so the existing SOC's that have support on-die for T-Mobile 3G frequencies just have to have a slightly updated version of the hardware (to support either class 10 or class 14 HSPA+).
This would be a perfect example as to why T-Mobile and AT&T shouldn't be able to market HSPA+ as 4G. It confuses people and makes them think that battery life will suck because of it like it does on Sprint and Verizon. When SOC's come out that have on die support for LTE and WIMAX (I think I heard 2012) then battery life for those phones won't suck anymore.
xenoletum said:
Just making sure here, but you know that T-Mobile's 4G is still using the same existing 3G connections, thus not requiring it to run on a different band, right? HSPA/HSPA+ connections share the same bands, and thus the "4G" connection is running through the same radio without affecting battery life. WiMAX and LTE operate differently and both run seperate from the EVDO that Verizon and Sprint use for their 3G.
That being said, a radio, regardless, will always drain the battery faster than anything, which is why Wifi Calling is so effective in keeping high battery life.
The other HSPA+ enabled phones on T-Mobile are getting fantastic battery life, as long as you aren't constantly using the displays.
I am leaning to believe that's a major reason why everyone's phones are dying so fast. They've got a new toy so they're always playing with it and killing it quickly. I've done that with every new phone I've gotten. My G1, the Cliq, the myTouch Slide, and now this. Give it a few days and when you're not turning the screen on every five seconds to just flick around the menus, and you'll see your life improve.
Yesterday, for example, I ran my phone off of charge from 11 AM EST until 6 AM EST (6 AM, Monday Morning). This was with moderate use.
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The antena-radio, is using more battery, just because is handling data at a higher rate.
Just like I said before, until there is a way or update to the radio to handle data more efficiently, 4g radio is gonna keep draining battery.
And yes hspa+ and wimax are similar yet incompatible technologies, but the way they handle data take a big chunk out of you battery.
And is a fact that radio is draining most of the battery, and until we get a radio update, battery is gonna drain fast.
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[Q] Anyone notice crazy battery drain when signal is spotty?

I'm currently out at a client site, but it's super bad reception here in the conference room they stuck us in. First of all, no 4G in colorado springs, so i disabled LTE, and hit CDMA in the network settings.
3G is near impossible inside, so i usually get 1X, and voice connection is next to impossible also.
So i noticed that from unplugging in the morning at 7:30am. at around 2pm, my battery was already down to 10%!
And i didn't even use it.
I did see from my battery usage, that Android system was ABOVE screen in power usage.
Anyone have the same issue?
I've had the same problem with EVERY phone ever, even non-smartphones have this problem. The lower the signal, the more the phone will scan for a good signal. If it has no service, it scans very frequently. If you're on a smartphone, it's even worse because then when the phone does get service, all the data apps attempt to use what little bandwidth you do have all at once. If you're in an area with poor coverage, put your phone into download mode or disable the data connection. Nothing short of putting a network extender or new tower will solve this.
Yes, but this is typical of most phones really. Searching for a signal, acquiring it, losing it, etc, uses a lot of battery. You just have to disable data. If there is wifi available, then use that, if not, just have to wait until you go outside. I have no reception in my building at work, if I leave data on, my battery is dead in a couple hours, on wifi I can go all day
Yes and my phone got very hot in my pocket at the time as well.
got_rice64 said:
I'm currently out at a client site, but it's super bad reception here in the conference room they stuck us in. First of all, no 4G in colorado springs, so i disabled LTE, and hit CDMA in the network settings.
3G is near impossible inside, so i usually get 1X, and voice connection is next to impossible also.
So i noticed that from unplugging in the morning at 7:30am. at around 2pm, my battery was already down to 10%!
And i didn't even use it.
I did see from my battery usage, that Android system was ABOVE screen in power usage.
Anyone have the same issue?
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I have this issue at work. I get anwhere from 10-15% battery drain an hour. I have determined that it is NOT because of the data signal though becuase I can turn that off and still get about the same excessive drain. It appears to be because of the voice signal. It varies anywhere from -85dm to -115dbm and is constantly changing. When I get outside of work environment, everthing is fine again and battery usage returns to normal. My Droid X did not have this issue.
-115db? How do you have signal at that rating? lol. Phone gets to about 1 bar when it reaches 101 for me.
I have the same issue in my office. I just barely get voice/text service. My solution is to turn off mobile data and plug my phone in to balance out the battery drain from the weak signal. I know it is bad to have my phone plugged in all of the time but it is better to be able to have sms and not have a dead phone when I am done at work.
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-115db? How do you have signal at that rating? lol. Phone gets to about 1 bar when it reaches 101 for me.
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Yeah. Tell me about it. I am using Mobile Signal Widget to measure this. When It gets that bad, a little android face appears in the widget and it is crying.
YES! easily drains 10-15% an hour at a local pub that has 1 bar of signal.
It makes perfect sense... Your phone is fighting hard for that signal.
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I drive 50+ miles to get to work and I always notice it drains a lot during my commute even when not used. I figured it was because of all the cell site swaps and searches bc I'm sure there's some spotty areas.
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Same experience. Dropped to 5% in 9 hours yesterday when I forgot to turn off data while at work. Today, I'm still at 75% after 9 hours with data off.
Juice defender solved this on my fascinate. It turned data on only once every 30 minutes. But, I can't get it to turn my data back on with this phone.
I really wish data signal aggressiveness was managed better by the operating system. It could be a real boon to the average battery life. Perhaps a smart developer could come up with some sort of "conservative" governor for 3g/4g connections. Rather than increasing power draw, it could just "sleep" until a stronger signal is detected... Imnuts? Is this even possible or just a pipedream?
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I can't reach my dad on his cell phone while at the pentagon for obvious reasons. He has to turn his phone off during the day or it'll die in a few short hours, as a previous poster mentioned searching for a signal is a huge battery drain.
Strange. I did not have this problem with my OG Doid or Droid X in the same environment. Maybe the Moto phones simply have a better radio than the Charge.
Yeah for some reason, the samsung radio are junk. I have my Droid Charge (personal) and an Lg phone (business) and the lg blows the sammy out of the water. Now i am in 3g fringe (forget about 4g), and the sammy loses data all together while my lg still has the signal. I hate when i am trying to search for something on the charge and it says connection failed or network unavailable retry. Even when i call verizon, they all have me do a reset and stuff, and nothing works. The best answer i get is that iam in a 3g fringe area. When i tell them that my lg works and still has signal, all i get is silence or hmmmmmm. Gota love it. Yes they exchanged the phone with a new one and it still does the same thing. Forget about battery life. I actually carry 3 batteries with me and on a good day i only use 2 but usually it is 3. Before anyone says use wifi, unfortunatly we do not have free wifi where i work. anyway that should not be the answer to this problem. We are paying for a service that i can barely use.
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91point6 said:
Strange. I did not have this problem with my OG Doid or Droid X in the same environment. Maybe the Moto phones simply have a better radio than the Charge.
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galaxyuser88 said:
Yeah for some reason, the samsung radio are junk. I have my Droid Charge (personal) and an Lg phone (business) and the lg blows the sammy out of the water. Now i am in 3g fringe (forget about 4g), and the sammy loses data all together while my lg still has the signal. I hate when i am trying to search for something on the charge and it says connection failed or network unavailable retry. Even when i call verizon, they all have me do a reset and stuff, and nothing works. The best answer i get is that iam in a 3g fringe area. When i tell them that my lg works and still has signal, all i get is silence or hmmmmmm. Gota love it. Yes they exchanged the phone with a new one and it still does the same thing. Forget about battery life. I actually carry 3 batteries with me and on a good day i only use 2 but usually it is 3. Before anyone says use wifi, unfortunatly we do not have free wifi where i work. anyway that should not be the answer to this problem. We are paying for a service that i can barely use.
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I went through the whole VZW customer service thing both on the phone and in person. They weren't much help but they gave me a brand new phone and it does the same thing. Then there were a lot of suggstions on different forums suggesting apps killers, turning data off, turing on 3g only data, rooting, trying different ROMs, battery clalibration, etc. None of this helps. The kind of drain I am seeing goes way beyond any benefits I would see out of any of these things. For example, I am at work now. When I left the house, it takes about 15 minutes for me to get to work. The rest of the time I have been inside my work building. I have been on battery for 2 hours & 24 minutes and I am at 76% already. Thats >10% drain per hour. When I am outside the building it is more like 3-5%. VZW customer service never suggested this as a problem. They DID suggest that 4g uses more battery but that is not the problem. I have proved that time and again by simply turning data off.
Hmm..sounds like a bad phone..I am in a fringe area at work and it definitely kills by battery faster but..it's only like 8% and hour so I still get 10 hrs a day or so...in a bad area. In a good 4 G area..I will get 24 hrs or so out of the phone.
galaxyuser88 said:
Yeah for some reason, the samsung radio are junk. I have my Droid Charge (personal) and an Lg phone (business) and the lg blows the sammy out of the water. Now i am in 3g fringe (forget about 4g), and the sammy loses data all together while my lg still has the signal. I hate when i am trying to search for something on the charge and it says connection failed or network unavailable retry. Even when i call verizon, they all have me do a reset and stuff, and nothing works. The best answer i get is that iam in a 3g fringe area. When i tell them that my lg works and still has signal, all i get is silence or hmmmmmm. Gota love it. Yes they exchanged the phone with a new one and it still does the same thing. Forget about battery life. I actually carry 3 batteries with me and on a good day i only use 2 but usually it is 3. Before anyone says use wifi, unfortunatly we do not have free wifi where i work. anyway that should not be the answer to this problem. We are paying for a service that i can barely use.
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Wow, that is the complete opposite of my experience. I've never had good signal with any LG phone - from flip phones to smartphones. Samsungs in my experience are middle of the road - not great, but not bad either. Motorolas usually do well, but there are certainly exceptions. HTC seems to be fairly good, but again, there are exceptions. Oh, and I did have one Audiovox phone on VZW, and it was garbage.
Haha you can whine about it in my rage thread
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my battery doesnt stand one day with me.. when i charge it and it is 90% i shut down the phone open it again and it is 99%..what is this is there a problem with it .should i change it ??
another thing sometimes my phone has no network and after one day the network come back .what the problem ..is it a radio problem?
Usually battery drain is due to visual. u can check what was hogging your battery and tell us what u see.
After flashing to cm7 i also notice that my battery stopped charging at 90% but then it charged to 100% the next time.
About your network, does it happen often with your phone? Try some test with the same network on different phone before changing it.
At times i too have no signal, my family uses the same network and it happened to all of us, so we conclude that it has got to do with our telco.
lovelorn.! said:
my battery doesnt stand one day with me.. when i charge it and it is 90% i shut down the phone open it again and it is 99%..what is this is there a problem with it .should i change it ??
another thing sometimes my phone has no network and after one day the network come back .what the problem ..is it a radio problem?
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1. Battery-life depends on numerous factors. With experience, major ones include
i) ROM in question
ii) Telecom signal strength
iii) Wifi or 3G usage
iv) Screen-on time
v) Some rogue apps
vi) Music all-day?
vii) Do you "game" all the time?
viii) Are you aware Android as an OS isn't that nice on battery juice?
A battery change should appear somewhere at the end of an exhaustive investigative list.
From your no network saga, I'd readily assume it's the poor signal strength that's mostly killing your battery.
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rain987 said:
Usually battery drain is due to visual. u can check what was hogging your battery and tell us what u see.
After flashing to cm7 i also notice that my battery stopped charging at 90% but then it charged to 100% the next time.
About your network, does it happen often with your phone? Try some test with the same network on different phone before changing it.
At times i too have no signal, my family uses the same network and it happened to all of us, so we conclude that it has got to do with our telco.
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About my network ..This thing happens with my phone only. When iam with my friends sometimes my phone has no signal and they have and this thing last for a day or two but after that it catshes signal in the same place
Saipro said:
1. Battery-life depends on numerous factors. With experience, major ones include
i) ROM in question
ii) Telecom signal strength
iii) Wifi or 3G usage
iv) Screen-on time
v) Some rogue apps
vi) Music all-day?
vii) Do you "game" all the time?
viii) Are you aware Android as an OS isn't that nice on battery juice?
A battery change should appear somewhere at the end of an exhaustive investigative list.
From your no network saga, I'd readily assume it's the poor signal strength that's mostly killing your battery.
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My rom is endymion .signal strength is normal but sometimes there is no signal and a day or two as i said i dont use wifi or 3g to much as iam always on 2g .dont have too many apps.no games.what is battery juice ?and what is the relation between poor signal and killing bettery?
lovelorn.! said:
My rom is endymion .signal strength is normal but sometimes there is no signal and a day or two as i said i dont use wifi or 3g to much as iam always on 2g .dont have too many apps.no games.what is battery juice ?and what is the relation between poor signal and killing bettery?
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If you are in poor signal area or worse right on the edge of a 3g reception, then the phone must work constantly attempting to hold on to a signal which in turn causes considerably battery outage, or off on the edge of 3g, must constantly change radios
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ben_pyett said:
If you are in poor signal area or worse right on the edge of a 3g reception, then the phone must work constantly attempting to hold on to a signal which in turn causes considerably battery outage, or off on the edge of 3g, must constantly change radios
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so now i need to change radio.

High battery usage at night?

Hello,
I have used my new motorola one hyper for about a month now, its overall really good. The only issue i have is the high battery drain when i am sleeping. It loses about 10% in 8 hours (while totaly not using it) Is this amount of battery drain normal or not? and what could i do about it (talking to the seller wich is derectly form the lenovo site or wainting for an update?)
looking at the battery usage it looks like mobile netwerk standby (mobile network standby) may be the cause of it? after a google seach of this problem a lot of people say that it comes form a bad cell reception. i live however in a city where cell reception is always good (always 4g lte)
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