http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562109
What is the deal with this? Is there going to be a hack that lets the camera do 10MP?
I've not heard/seen that anywhere, nor can I really understand how that's possible, but perhaps that person has gotten confused with this REG edit?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467616
if i'm not mistaking that has to do with the panoramic mode.
Unless they're talking about software extrapolation of the pixels I don't see it being at all possible. If they stuck a cmos/ccd sensor in that phone that had 10mp it would be a 10mp camera phone. I see no reason to spend the added cost of using a 10mp sensor and then limiting it to only 3.2mp.
Besides. If it was a 10mp sensor I guarantee you won't like the image quality compared to a 3.2mp sensor. Having no flash what so ever on the touch pro, anything that isn't direct sunlight would look horrible, if at all usable. Cramming 10mp in a sensor that's about a centimeter square or less would give very poor performance.
I found this on ONE PLUS 5 forum
A snapdragon processor is required.
Fc on exynos
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/themes/google-camera-hdr-t3655215
Also FC on S7 flat snapdragon
From what I read somewhere, usually stock camera apps are better since they are tailored to the hardware.
dagger1 said:
From what I read somewhere, usually stock camera apps are better since they are tailored to the hardware.
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Yep, due to touchwiz framework / drivers for the camera you're always going to get better quality from the stock Samsung camera, all others are grainy and lower quality
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From what I read somewhere, usually stock camera apps are better since they are tailored to the hardware.
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literally the reason why I dont want to switch to AOSP/LOS based roms. Lightweight is nice but what is it if the photo quality sucks.
omar9x said:
Also FC on S7 flat snapdragon
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Try With an S8 rom.
dagger1 said:
From what I read somewhere, usually stock camera apps are better since they are tailored to the hardware.
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Exactly, but Hdr+ is better than Samsung's app in low light and back light.
achour7 said:
Exactly, but Hdr+ is better than Samsung's app in low light and back light.
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Not quite. HDR+ is a Google-specific product and as such is tuned to Google's products. HDR+ on our phones would be worse than stock because our camera sensors are different than the Pixel's or Nexus phones'. Look at the examples from the S8 where they were able to get this camera app working -- the low-light shots are noticeably worse than stock. This is because the HDR+ processing is not fine-tuned specifically for the S8 camera sensor. Noise profiles, especially, are very unique from sensor to sensor.
Image stacking and averaging, which is one of they key components to the HDR+ process, COULD potentially be a better way to handle low light, but it is significantly more CPU-intensive and thus a little slower. Remember, our low-light shots on the S7 right now are instant. Perhaps Samsung will implement advanced stacking in future phones. But so far, it has not been needed because they're using good camera sensors with smart post-processing.
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Not quite. HDR+ is a Google-specific product and as such is tuned to Google's products. HDR+ on our phones would be worse than stock because our camera sensors are different than the Pixel's or Nexus phones'. Look at the examples from the S8 where they were able to get this camera app working -- the low-light shots are noticeably worse than stock. This is because the HDR+ processing is not fine-tuned specifically for the S8 camera sensor. Noise profiles, especially, are very unique from sensor to sensor.
Image stacking and averaging, which is one of they key components to the HDR+ process, COULD potentially be a better way to handle low light, but it is significantly more CPU-intensive and thus a little slower. Remember, our low-light shots on the S7 right now are instant. Perhaps Samsung will implement advanced stacking in future phones. But so far, it has not been needed because they're using good camera sensors with smart post-processing.
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I didn't test it on my S7 "exynos" and didn't see how is image quality on the S8 but on the One+ 3, G cam is much better than stock.
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Not quite. HDR+ is a Google-specific product and as such is tuned to Google's products. HDR+ on our phones would be worse than stock because our camera sensors are different than the Pixel's or Nexus phones'. Look at the examples from the S8 where they were able to get this camera app working -- the low-light shots are noticeably worse than stock. This is because the HDR+ processing is not fine-tuned specifically for the S8 camera sensor. Noise profiles, especially, are very unique from sensor to sensor.
Image stacking and averaging, which is one of they key components to the HDR+ process, COULD potentially be a better way to handle low light, but it is significantly more CPU-intensive and thus a little slower. Remember, our low-light shots on the S7 right now are instant. Perhaps Samsung will implement advanced stacking in future phones. But so far, it has not been needed because they're using good camera sensors with smart post-processing.
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Median stacking is a proven effective way to handle low light problems. Those problems are noise and dynamic range. It's not just done in the Google pixel. It's been done for years in astrophotography
There has been a 3rd party app out for YEARS now that has worked on some S7s that does precisely what Pixel. HDR+ does ...it's called Cortex Camera. It's buggy and very slow and doesn't work on all cameras , but results I have seen out of an S7 are far superior to any stock jpeg or raw out of the S7. Does not work on all S7s In ideal conditions , it's better than anything out there.
If a sensor is tiny....like ALL phone cameras to date, it is going to be noisy in low light. The only way to maintain detail and mitigate noise and allow higher dynamic range is something like median stacking...even at base iso and unlimited shutter.
I use the app "Open Camera" in darker settings and find it does a better job than the stock camera on my Samsung Galaxy S7. It also has a dedicated picture vs video mode which is good for my selfie stick/tripod.
Also has waaaaaaaaaaaay more options.
So, will this work on a Stock S7e ?
Working s7 930f thanks
I think this will improve low light quality on our XZP:
https://youtu.be/dz4XoC7ncAI
I had compared xzp with xz2 and xz2 has clear glass on those 3 sensors... Xzp has paint over those 3... one is laser, the other 2 i don't know
We know the phones uses same camera sensors pack, but on XZP the 3 sensors are covered with paint, while on XZ2 it's clear glass.
If anyone has broken back glass, please test if low light photos improve in quality.
Inerent said:
I think this will improve low light quality on our XZP:
https://youtu.be/dz4XoC7ncAI
I had compared xzp with xz2 and xz2 has clear glass on those 3 sensors... Xzp has paint over those 3... one is laser, the other 2 i don't know
We know the phones uses same camera sensors pack, but on XZP the 3 sensors are covered with paint, while on XZ2 it's clear glass.
If anyone has broken back glass, please test if low light photos improve in quality.
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the xz2 has better pics not because of this, but because of better software optimizations and better camera algorithms, as you can see in the video clearly, the guy just trimmed around the sensors because nothing is besides glass on them, I mean why would a successful company like sony place them sensors and then cover them? it makes no sense...
just pray sony will release the camera software on the XZ2 for our xzp
One sensor is for laser, one for infrared, and the third i don't know. But the ir sensor is responsible for low light. Xzp has paint over ir sensor, xz2 has not. You judge for yourself ... Also camera software can improve... but i think the software difference is for 4k hdr and 1080 slow motion, not for photo processing...
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One sensor is for laser, one for infrared, and the third i don't know. But the ir sensor is responsible for low light. Xzp has paint over ir sensor, xz2 has not. You judge for yourself ... Also camera software can improve... but i think the software difference is for 4k hdr and 1080 slow motion, not for photo processing...
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you could be right, the small sensors on the xz2 (the ones below the flash and the white dot) are showing clearly, on the XZP there seems to be black shadow paint covering them but if it really makes a difference why would sony place that paint tent there? and the video you provided, the guy didnt peel the paint off the sensor just around it...
So I got my Xiaomi mi 10 ultra and I love it.
But what I don't understand is that sensor under the telephoto 5x lens.
It is an Sony IMX586 which is a pretty decent Sensor. I am happy with the picture quality so far.
But video.. something weird is going on here:
In xiaomis camera App i was not able to make 4k or 1080p 60 fps videos with the 5x tele.. the smaller, not as good sensor of the ultra wide (12mp got no more specific info) is capable of 1080p60.
The IMX586 is a good sensor. Other phones are using 4k 60fps with it. Even a new Drone got the sensor and is capable of 4k90fps.
Why is xiaomi not letting me film in 60fps 4k or 1080p?
Is there a way to get this work in gcam or ultracvm?
So far liking the new 7p, havent seen any crazy battery drain or anything yet.
Camera can shoot 30x pics but only 20x video... any idea why? Tried changing settings (1080p, 30fps) to no avail.
Wonder why we cant shoot HDR in 60fps either...
Can the 6p do these?
Thanks
Likely due to lack of light and/or processing power. The 7 Pro uses the telephoto lens that can do 5x and 10x with a 1:1 crop. Everything between or beyond those steps get processed with data from the main sensor and the new Super Resolution AI. Considering it can do 30x for a single frame. Mediocre 20x for 30/60fps is seems fine for video.
I am also miffed about not having HDR at 60fps especially since we can now do full zoom on FHD/UHD unlike the 6 Pro getting locked out of 60fps for UHD 4x zoom.