Last time I had an HTC phone was before they introduced the S-Off / S-ON.
So, I already got TWRP installed
Working great, LTE/4G is good, I made stock backup for everything.
Planning to install the Bad Boy ROM
but can't find anything about how to set S-Off / S-ON.
I was trying to install BusyBox, Titanium Backup, Adaway, and many other Apps which requires root, all of which won't work properly because it's S-On? so I want to switch to S-Off, make the install changes, then switch it back to S-On?
Because as I understand it, when it's S-Off many Apps and even LTE/4G might not work because it needs to be in S-On ?
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in download mode it shows:
htc_ocnwhl PVT S-ON
S-off is not available yet, but hopefully it will be. If you install Badboyz ROM you will have a choice of Superuser or Magisk for root. Those apps should be able to work once you obtain root, nothing to do with S-off/S-on. S-off is mainly for flashing unsigned firmware. In all the HTC phones I have had, never once did I lose 4G/LTE when obtaining S-off.
BusyBox says it cannot write to system.
Same with Adaway, it's even a Known issue they have listed in the Help pages, that S-Off is needed to be able to modify the HOST file, when it's S-On it cannot write to it.
Hopefully we can get S-Off working on this phone, really liking this U11 so far. :good:
As far as I know there is a thread about systemless AdAway if running stock rooted with Magisk. Not sure though.
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If it's anything like recent htc phones the stock kernel also write protects /system even when rooted. Custom kernel should fix your issues.
mattman83 said:
If it's anything like recent htc phones the stock kernel also write protects /system even when rooted. Custom kernel should fix your issues.
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I'll try that :good:
Yes, a lot of Apps that I use that needs to write to System, heck even I myself want to replace and remove stuff from system, like all those Google Stuff.
Anyway yeah, I can't write to System partition with the stock kernel it seems.
Which of the currently released custom kernels allows to write to System?
... time to check the Dev section to see what's available :laugh:
server hiccup duplicated
AllGamer said:
... time to check the Dev section to see what's available :laugh:
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Maybe that would have been a better idea: (1) BEFORE you did everything you did to your U11 and (2) BEFORE you started this thread.
There are lots of resources here on XDA. It seems a great number of people are just doing things to their handsets before they read up on the complications and consequences, then asking questions afterwards. (One other poster on the forum actually unlocked, flashed an alternate recovery and ROM, without making any Nandroids or backups of stock, and only THEN tried his SIM in the device, only to find that it didn't work and he has no way back now. Permission to smack the moron?)
If you have $649 to throw away, great. Otherwise, let's be careful out there and take a little more time to study before we bork our phones.
And, oh, XDA has a GREAT search function, too!
Seems like Kirisakura-OCEAN-0.2 might do the trick.
Optionally I could go with LeeDrOiD ROM, but it's based on Europe version of the stock image.
Not sure if that will affect the Radio for the American models.
AllGamer said:
Seems like Kirisakura-OCEAN-0.2 might do the trick.
Optionally I could go with LeeDrOiD ROM, but it's based on Europe version of the stock image.
Not sure if that will affect the Radio for the American models.
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LeeDrOiD is safe. I flashed European version of roms all the time.
Yeah s-off is only needed if you want to change base firmware (radio, bootloader etc). Most usefull for downgrading the firmware.
Also S-off lets you reset the phone to LOCKED without the RELOCKED normal htcdev unlock allows for.
AllGamer said:
Seems like Kirisakura-OCEAN-0.2 might do the trick.
Optionally I could go with LeeDrOiD ROM, but it's based on Europe version of the stock image.
Not sure if that will affect the Radio for the American models.
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I am running LeeDrOiD on sprint USDA and its working perfectly!!!!
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Seems like Kirisakura-OCEAN-0.2 might do the trick.
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Oh and do you have the dl url for Kirisakura-OCEAN-0.2 for kali? or any variation of linux I'll make it work!!! >>>>>?
I will hack it if given the tool!
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Also S-off lets you reset the phone to LOCKED without the RELOCKED normal htcdev unlock allows for.
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Not on the U11 with its temp S-OFF shenanigans. The XTC2Clip can gain temp S-OFF on the U11 (needs a new 50 dollar adapter) but so far there is no way to set the bootloader back to locked status, it's relock only. HTC needs to release a bootloader that supports S-OFF - either through a leak or a legitimate firmware update - or S-OFF is going to be out of reach for all practical purposes for awhile. Temp S-OFF is a huge liability. Screw up one thing while you're in that state, as soon as the phone goes back to S-ON at the next boot, you've got a brick.
semi-noob here, and slightly confused... The past phones I've flashed, seemed to equate "S-OFF" to "able to remount /system as RW'..... S-ON/OFF is unrelated to /system remounting, having root access/root shell, etc?
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Probably showing my ignorance but i would like to know if any functionality is lost by changing the bootloader of a rom to the revolutionary bootloader when s-offing the rom?
I would also be grateful if somebody could explain to me what improvements or ill effects a change of bootloader can invoke i.e. what parts of the functionality of the rom do the bootloader effect.
Bootloader doesn't affect the ROM at all. The bootloader is just what boots into a rom.
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Probably showing my ignorance but i would like to know if any functionality is lost by changing the bootloader of a rom to the revolutionary bootloader when s-offing the rom?
I would also be grateful if somebody could explain to me what improvements or ill effects a change of bootloader can invoke i.e. what parts of the functionality of the rom do the bootloader effect.
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If you go through the Revolutionary process. You'll get a Hboot with a slightly different version.
You will however, get S-OFF and Su and a Custom Recovery (ClockworkMod, CWM).
The phone will operate normally. You will have the opportunity of backing it up (Nandroid), installing apps that require Root access and install Custom ROMs.
As I think the other poster mentioned, can't see it ATM, the bootloader is Phone based and independent of the ROM.
I originally used a similar process (AlphaRev) on my desire, AlphaRev and Unrevoked produced Revolutionary together.
From personal experience, it has not affected my phone in any adverse manner, as always YMMV. It opened possibilities though.
Then why are there different bootloaders??
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Then why are there different bootloaders??
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Usually 'cos HTC release slightly different versions of them.
The latest one 1.19 seems more locked down for example.
TBH most folks just use Revolutionary to S-OFF etc. then just leave it at that, mine is 1.17.1111 Once it's done it's done. There is a new Radio that seems to require 1.19 but as my phone works well with the current version I have installed, I'm leaving that well alone.
According to their site they can apply S-OFF to the following versions: HTC Sensation (pyramid) 1.17.0006, .0008, .0011 and .0012, 1.18.0000
What are you actually trying to do / want to achieve ?
what u loose is if u are on stock can update using HTC OTA
If u are stock rom u will not be able to make the OTA updates as it will hang since it expect its own hboot, this is the drawback I know. u will have them to reload a stock copy to have the official hboot and recovery again.
boalos said:
If u are stock rom u will not be able to make the OTA updates as it will hang since it expect its own hboot, this is the drawback I know. u will have them to reload a stock copy to have the official hboot and recovery again.
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Good point.
However Custom ROMs seem to be "nicer" and tend to have updates earlier.
EDIT: As a fellow Vodafone UK user I thought I'd add that: When I had my HTC Desire (was running Eclair initially) and Froyo was being released, Vf UK was one of the slowest companies to release it. As the newer Froyo offered significant improvements I jumped at the chance to go for a Carrier independent ROM that supported Froyo. Thus freeing myself from Vf release schedule and also removing the Vf bloat ware that I never used. I did suffer a set back when I got the Sensation as initially S-OFF wasn't possible. This situation looks like it'll repeat itself with the release of ICS. PM if you want more info.
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Usually 'cos HTC release slightly different versions of them.
The latest one 1.19 seems more locked down for example.
TBH most folks just use Revolutionary to S-OFF etc. then just leave it at that, mine is 1.17.1111 Once it's done it's done. There is a new Radio that seems to require 1.19 but as my phone works well with the current version I have installed, I'm leaving that well alone.
According to their site they can apply S-OFF to the following versions: HTC Sensation (pyramid) 1.17.0006, .0008, .0011 and .0012, 1.18.0000
What are you actually trying to do / want to achieve ?
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I am trying to achieve the best possible stock experience but i don't want to lose the ability to root.
The reason i was asking was the fact that it was stated that, the new h-boot was needed for the new radio to work properly on the leaked ics with sense RUU which suggests that the bootloaders have slightly different functionality.
bobsie41 said:
I am trying to achieve the best possible stock experience but i don't want to lose the ability to root.
The reason i was asking was the fact that it was stated that, the new h-boot was needed for the new radio to work properly on the leaked ics with sense RUU which suggests that the bootloaders have slightly different functionality.
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Ahh you're talking about 11.59..... Sorry I think I got off topic :-((
I've seen a few still using 10.58.........10.15... on ICS with success. I have downloaded an ICS ROM and it seems to work on HBoot 1.17.1111 with my radio. Reflashed back to CM7 though, but I now have the option. I'll reflash ICS again and just confirm it works on 3G and WiFi as usual. I didn't check too far when I first tried. Please bear in mind that these ICS ROMs are based on unreleased versions, so really a taster at the moment.
Hi folks,
I have read a number of guides and threads on the forum but I can't work out if any apply to what I want to do. I'm sure the info may be there but its not clear to me.
Basically I want root on my Desire S so that I can use aps like LUKS Manager, Orbot and so on. I don't want to install a new ROM as I'm happy with my what I have at the moment.
My hboot is 2.00.0002 and my Radio is 3822.10.08.04_M
Is what I want to do possible? If not and I have to install a new ROM is it possible to find one that matches what I have at the moment? How do I identitfy what that is?
Thanks in advance for all the help!
wageslave said:
Hi folks,
I have read a number of guides and threads on the forum but I can't work out if any apply to what I want to do. I'm sure the info may be there but its not clear to me.
Basically I want root on my Desire S so that I can use aps like LUKS Manager, Orbot and so on. I don't want to install a new ROM as I'm happy with my what I have at the moment.
My hboot is 2.00.0002 and my Radio is 3822.10.08.04_M
Is what I want to do possible? If not and I have to install a new ROM is it possible to find one that matches what I have at the moment? How do I identitfy what that is?
Thanks in advance for all the help!
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everything is possible. Just follow the guides in this forum how to root your device (I recommend not to use htcdev). You don't have to install a new ROM.
But my personal opinion is to use a custom ROM, since they often have much more possibilities for customizing and a lot modifications for speed and performance. Are you still using stock ROM with sense 3.0 ?
Sent from my Desire S using XDA App
Hi, thanks for the reply. I've only accepted the updates provded by my network so I guess thats the stock ROM?
Yep, its HTC Sense 3
I must be missing something basic because from all the guides i've read you have to install a new ROm to keep root?
wageslave said:
Hi, thanks for the reply. I've only accepted the updates provded by my network so I guess thats the stock ROM?
Yep, its HTC Sense 3
I must be missing something basic because from all the guides i've read you have to install a new ROm to keep root?
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Yes, it's stock right now.
At first you need to s-off your device (caution, you are about to void your warranty). You can do that using the revolutionary tool. Then you have to root, which can be done with superoneclick.
(edit: at this point you need to install a recovery like 4ext or cwm)
Root will not be undone when installing a
New ROM, neither do you need to install a new ROM. But I recommend to use a ROM with sense 3.5, it's much better.
You can find tutorials for everything I'm talking about right here in the forums.
Sent from my Desire S using XDA App
Ah, thats great, thanks. I didn't get that superoneclick could allow you to keep root.
Much appreciated.
I'll also look into the Sense 3.5. thanks again!
I forgot to mention: after rooting,
You need to install a custom recovery like 4ext or cwm. It's for backing up your system and flashing roms and updates and anything else you need
Sent from my Desire S using XDA App
Ok, so if I get s-off and then keep root by using superoneclick does that mean that I won't be able to receive updates through my network?
wageslave said:
Ok, so if I get s-off and then keep root by using superoneclick does that mean that I won't be able to receive updates through my network?
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If your s-off and rooted the installer will not install the update (never tried cause I dont use stock rom) - but there are alway newest rooted stock roms here on xda and you can update your system manually. Most of the time before your carrier sends you the "official" update.
But yes, you have to do it by yourself.
Steinhund said:
If your s-off and rooted the installer will not install the update (never tried cause I dont use stock rom) - but there are alway newest rooted stock roms here on xda and you can update your system manually. Most of the time before your carrier sends you the "official" update.
But yes, you have to do it by yourself.
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+1
But I think if you s-off and root and DO NOT install any other ROM you might still be able to download official updates for your stock ROM over the air
Sent from my Desire S using XDA App
Yes, you can use OTA (Over The Air update) ... but I think after that, you will loose your root
look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186401 FAQ's No. 5
ok, went to have a go at this but it looks like getting S-Off is quite complicated as well. I'm on HBOOT 2.00.0002.
Is there a shorter route to achieving root than:
downgrade
s-off
superoneclick (for root)
install custom recovery
If there isn't now is it likely to become available in the future or is the Desire S just difficult to do this with?
If You don't want to change rom, then stay s-on, unlock bootloader with htcdev and use superoneclick.
wageslave said:
Is there a shorter route to achieving root than:
downgrade
s-off
superoneclick (for root)
install custom recovery
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use the htcdev, but as mentioned its not recommended
its not that hard to do the stuff...
bronx said:
If You don't want to change rom, then stay s-on, unlock bootloader with htcdev and use superoneclick.
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+1
this will give you exaclty what you require
AND if you have S-OFF and apply an OTA you will stuck in a bootloop (white HTC splash screen)
bronx said:
If You don't want to change rom, then stay s-on, unlock bootloader with htcdev and use superoneclick.
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That's great, and exactly what i was looking for, thanks!
eyahl said:
use the htcdev, but as mentioned its not recommended
its not that hard to do the stuff...
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I get that the steps might be easy enough, but there are quite a lot of them and instructions can contain loops when put together (I.e. downgrading to get root may require root in some instructionals). I do appreciate your help and advice though. I may well switch ROMs, especially in the future (I can't see myself affording a new phone any time soon!)
amidabuddha said:
+1
this will give you exaclty what you require
AND if you have S-OFF and apply an OTA you will stuck in a bootloop (white HTC splash screen)
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Thanks for the tip!
ok i am late but i think i can help.
first of all stop confusing the damn guy with different kinds of stuff. even i was like him before rooting my precious desire s. he will learn the advantages and disadvantages of revolutionary s-off as time passes by.
for now follow this guide as i did this (and trust me i had the same intentions as you do)
first get your adb and fastboot setup, this is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272595
then go to htcdev and unlock your phone. follow the process, its easier than you think.
after your done, download superoneclick and root your phone. if you dont know much about superoneclick then search around or google it and you will find your anwsers. one more thing, htcdev will reset your phone.
sorry if i am late if you have already rooteed your phone.
@up wth are U talkin' bout dude?
Case was closed two days ago, op was informed, understood, even thanked everyone. What are You trying to show in here?
darkrider24 said:
first of all stop confusing the damn guy with different kinds of stuff. even i was like him before rooting my precious desire s. he will learn the advantages and disadvantages of revolutionary s-off as time passes by.
for now follow this guide as i did this (and trust me i had the same intentions as you do)
first get your adb and fastboot setup, this is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272595
then go to htcdev and unlock your phone. follow the process, its easier than you think.
after your done, download superoneclick and root your phone. if you dont know much about superoneclick then search around or google it and you will find your anwsers. one more thing, htcdev will reset your phone.
sorry if i am late if you have already rooteed your phone.
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Who do you think you are? Batman?
You've basically danced around the same bush that bronx, eyahl and amidabuddha planted already and announced salvation to the world!
Ohhh.... am I too late to save the day?...is it too late for the poor non-rooted buggers?!! What'll the world do without me? The ship you're trying to board sailed away two days ago... party's over man... but it's fascinating to see the way you look at yourself! Knight in shining armor indeed!!
This is your first post on the forum, and this is how you behave, and talk to other members...? You reap what you sow man...
P.S. : Even the OP has more posts than you!!
Lmao
I guess I'm not the only one who is killing time watching these boards 50 times a day.
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Lmao
I guess I'm not the only one who is killing time watching these boards 50 times a day.
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Nope, you're not the only one
Enigmaamit at his best
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I am a new htc user, however not new to rooting and flashing. I have just recently considered rooting my One S but am not sure if I should just unlock the bootloader or wait for S-off. So my question is simply what are the cons of just unlocking the bootloader now and rooting or would it be better to wait for S-off and root then? Also, if I were to root now, what roms do you recommend?
S-OFF efforts are REALLY slow and it seems no serious attempts are going after it at the moment..
I'd imagine the only disadvantage of using HTC's current bootloader unlocking is that they know you did it and it could void some/all of your warranty. Of course, you also don't have full access to the ROM/HBOOT but you could still flash many things.. You also get a flagged device ("Tampered") if you flash anything which can only be removed with S-OFF AFAIK..
As for ROMs, there are plenty at the Dev section.. I tried a handful and most are good with varying degrees of stability. I am currently on TrickDroid since it is Sense based + extras.. Paranoid Android is my favorite CM-based and pretty stable overall.. AOKP is also good.. Haven't tried MIUI..
Really, it's up to you.. What do you prefer.. Just make sure you have a nandroid backup of your stock rom so you could revert back.
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S-OFF efforts are REALLY slow and it seems no serious attempts are going after it at the moment..
I'd imagine the only disadvantage of using HTC's current bootloader unlocking is that they know you did it and it could void some/all of your warranty. Of course, you also don't have full access to the ROM/HBOOT but you could still flash many things.. You also get a flagged device ("Tampered") if you flash anything which can only be removed with S-OFF AFAIK..
As for ROMs, there are plenty at the Dev section.. I tried a handful and most are good with varying degrees of stability. I am currently on TrickDroid since it is Sense based + extras.. Paranoid Android is my favorite CM-based and pretty stable overall.. AOKP is also good.. Haven't tried MIUI..
Really, it's up to you.. What do you prefer.. Just make sure you have a nandroid backup of your stock rom so you could revert back.
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So, contrary to what I've also heard here in several threads, returning to stock with the proper RUU (or even nandroid, however that works?) doesn't truly revert the device back to stock in the way that you retain full warranty? That actually is quite the roadblock for me to get a Jelly Bean ROM soon. That is, if HTC doesn't provide an update soon enough, which we all know is probably the case.
I forgot about RUU but I don't claim that I know if it removes the tampered flag or not.
Some people say that if you relock your bootloader you are good but I don't have any personal experience with HTC service with this regard.
Sent from my HTC One S
Pheroh said:
I forgot about RUU but I don't claim that I know if it removes the tampered flag or not.
Some people say that if you relock your bootloader you are good but I don't have any personal experience with HTC service with this regard.
Sent from my HTC One S
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Even if you re lock the bootloader they can see it was tampered with. If you boot into the bootloader you'll see at the top it says tampered.
I wouldn't hold my breath for s- off. If you unlock and root your phone and then install TWRP you can just flash roms as though you do have s- off. TWRP will flash the boot.img. That way you don't need to hook your phone up to your pc and fastboot the boot.img. It's awesome Cuz you can just flash on the fly.
Sent from my HTC One S on Axiom S
Okay wel thank you for the help. Will this affect any updates that are put out by HTC or if I unlock the bootloader is there something I can do to revert back? And it sounds like there a couple different ways to unlock and root, what is the best way to go about it? Gosh rooting and flashing roms on the vibrant was significantly more simple
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cmrn89 said:
Okay wel thank you for the help. Will this affect any updates that are put out by HTC or if I unlock the bootloader is there something I can do to revert back? And it sounds like there a couple different ways to unlock and root, what is the best way to go about it? Gosh rooting and flashing roms on the vibrant was significantly more simple
Sent from my HTC VLE_U using Tapatalk 2
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I hear that you cannot OTA update stock ROMs after flashing a custom recovery unless you re-install stock recovery and relock your device.. It's a long process.. of course the important part to update is the radio and you could do it without going through all of that but you risk a permanent brick if something goes wrong..
As for the easiest way for rooting, check the all-in-one thread in dev forum.. I unlocked, rooted, and flashed recovery of mine using that application.. pretty noob friendly
Hi all,
My Sensation is an early one, it was unlocked/S-OFF/rooted in the early days via the Revolutionary method.
Bootloader info
--Revolutionary--
HBOOT: 1.27.1100
S-OFF
I was originally on hboot 1.18, I am guessing this was a patched hboot when I upgraded firmware to 1.18.
Now I am trying to crack why the Sky Go app always says "you cannot run on rooted devices" , even when root is hidden or uninstalled. I even tried today going back to stock recovery and kernel
But it still says "you cannot run on rooted devices"
My only theory now is that the Sky Go app is checking the S-ON/OFF status.
I am loathe to try the "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" as I believe this will brick my phone, unless I have installed a stock/signed hboot first and I really don't want to have to do this in case I end up in a situation I can't get out of easily.
Is there a way of spoofing the phone so that apps will still think it is S-ON, or is there a foolproof way to toggle S-ON back on again (in such a way I can easily toggle it back to S-OFF).
I don't think it's checking S-On status. First I can't imagine how an app would do that while the ROM is booted, especially an app that doesn't have root priveledges in the first place.
Plus, S-On is an HTC thing. Not all Androids use S-On and S-Off. So an app wouldn't be checking that.
Double Plus...you can be s-off and not rooted, so it's not even a reason for the app to check.
In other words, don't worry about s-off. I have no idea why you can't hide root though.
Skipjacks said:
In other words, don't worry about s-off. I have no idea why you can't hide root though.
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I'm not just trying to hide it now, I'm trying to get rid of it, one step at a time, in theory as soon as Sky Go starts to work then I'll know which particular bit I just removed was the bit it was checking.
As far as I can tell, I was unrooted and back to stock recovery and kernel. The only things remaining were the fact I was on a custom ROM (ARHD) and had unlocked bootloader.
Maybe something to do with the ROM then in build.prop to detect custom roms??
chrisw99 said:
I'm not just trying to hide it now, I'm trying to get rid of it, one step at a time, in theory as soon as Sky Go starts to work then I'll know which particular bit I just removed was the bit it was checking.
As far as I can tell, I was unrooted and back to stock recovery and kernel. The only things remaining were the fact I was on a custom ROM (ARHD) and had unlocked bootloader.
Maybe something to do with the ROM then in build.prop to detect custom roms??
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Why don't you make a full backup and then running a ruu without a bootloader in it. Once back on stock ics then try? Then add recovery and try? Then add root via flashable.zip and try again?
Tapped out from my sexy nexus 7
Hi all,
I have an AT&T One X. The bootloader is unlocked but is S-ON. I want to return this phone to as close as stock as possible. This phone is destined to go to another user who knows nothing of rooting and such so I don't care if it is rooted or not.
I understand I have to relock the bootloader to be able to flash an RUU right? Hboot is currently at 1.14.002, Radio is at 0.19as.32.09.11_2. TWRP 2.3.1.0 is installed.
The phone is currently running Cleanrom 6.5 and all works fine. I just want this back to as close to AT&T stock as possible so that the user I am giving the phone to will not have any problems.
If I relock the bootloader can I return this to stock via the most recent AT&T 3.18 RUU located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191477 or is there something else I need to do first?
Thanks for all your help.
Tersanyus said:
Hi all,
I have an AT&T One X. The bootloader is unlocked but is S-ON. I want to return this phone to as close as stock as possible. This phone is destined to go to another user who knows nothing of rooting and such so I don't care if it is rooted or not.
I understand I have to relock the bootloader to be able to flash an RUU right? Hboot is currently at 1.14.002, Radio is at 0.19as.32.09.11_2. TWRP 2.3.1.0 is installed.
The phone is currently running Cleanrom 6.5 and all works fine. I just want this back to as close to AT&T stock as possible so that the user I am giving the phone to will not have any problems.
If I relock the bootloader can I return this to stock via the most recent AT&T 3.18 RUU located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191477 or is there something else I need to do first?
Thanks for all your help.
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You'll need to S-OFF first or you'll brick.
There's a howto on the original android development section.
exad said:
You'll need to S-OFF first or you'll brick.
There's a howto on the original android development section.
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Just flash a stock rooted Rom. Most users won't even know it's rooted. And having a custom recovery (even if they don't know they have it) can help if there is ever an issue. S-off so in the future if there's a update it won't brick the phone.
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31ken31 said:
Just flash a stock rooted Rom. Most users won't even know it's rooted. And having a custom recovery (even if they don't know they have it) can help if there is ever an issue. S-off so in the future if there's a update it won't brick the phone.
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I agree, except for leaving it rooted. I would leave just the bootloader unlocked and S-OFF and RUU, this way the buyer doesn't get shocked or confused if an app asks for root access, but has the option to do whatever they want to their phone if they so decide.
exad said:
I agree, except for leaving it rooted. I would leave just the bootloader unlocked and S-OFF and RUU, this way the buyer doesn't get shocked or confused if an app asks for root access, but has the option to do whatever they want to their phone if they so decide.
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I forgot about su access prompt. That could be a shocker lol
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exad said:
I would leave just the bootloader unlocked and S-OFF and RUU.
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I agree. Couple reasons (both related to RUU). If the new user for some reason needs to recover the phone, and runs the RUU (not unheard of, HTC support will sometimes direct customers to do this), that person will either:
1) Brick the phone, if its left as SuperCID and S-on
2) If S-on (but CID is changed back), and bootloader is left unlocked, the RUU won't run. The person will have no idea why, and will likely be stuck.
S-off solves both of these potential issues. If you are at all worried about the next user. I would S-off, then run the RUU to return the phone to stock. The only thing that would be "not stock" is unlocked bootloader and S-off. But neither of these will mean anything or affect a less experienced user.
I'm going to disagree with the above.
If this person knows nothing of rooting and doesn't care, you should give them a stock phone. Being s-off is a potential security risk that should only be taken by someone who a) knows about it, and b) knows what it means. If you're selling this phone, it's arguably deceptive to give them something with a lurking vulnerability.
iElvis said:
I'm going to disagree with the above.
If this person knows nothing of rooting and doesn't care, you should give them a stock phone. Being s-off is a potential security risk that should only be taken by someone who a) knows about it, and b) knows what it means. If you're selling this phone, it's arguably deceptive to give them something with a lurking vulnerability.
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Fair point. Switching the phone back to the AT&T CID and locking the bootloader might be the best alternative. Then run the RUU to get it back on stock recovery and ROM.
Giving/selling the phone to an unsuspecting noob with SuperCID and S-on just seems like a bad idea. Worse than S-off.
iElvis said:
I'm going to disagree with the above.
If this person knows nothing of rooting and doesn't care, you should give them a stock phone. Being s-off is a potential security risk that should only be taken by someone who a) knows about it, and b) knows what it means. If you're selling this phone, it's arguably deceptive to give them something with a lurking vulnerability.
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I've seen bricks after RUUing, even after changing the CID back to default.. It's a toss up I guess. Typically, when I sell my phone or hacked device, I just sell it as being hacked this way people know what they are getting into. Advertising as such has never hindered my ability to sell it either.
redpoint73 said:
Fair point. Switching the phone back to the AT&T CID and locking the bootloader might be the best alternative. Then run the RUU to get it back on stock recovery and ROM.
Giving/selling the phone to an unsuspecting noob with SuperCID and S-on just seems like a bad idea. Worse than S-off.
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I didn't mean leaving it supercid--that is obviously a risk.
exad said:
I've seen bricks after RUUing, even after changing the CID back to default.. It's a toss up I guess. Typically, when I sell my phone or hacked device, I just sell it as being hacked this way people know what they are getting into. Advertising as such has never hindered my ability to sell it either.
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That's kind of my point. Selling it rooted is fine, just represent it for what it is. You shouldn't give a modified phone to someone who doesn't know what that even means.
The phone is going to a friend who has a Pantech Burst currently. As someone mentioned I didn't want them to get a SuperSU prompt for root access and have no idea what that means. I tried a stock rooted rom but it kept rebooting. I did factory reset/data wipe and reloaded the rom twice but still kept doing it. I thought it odd too. Cleamrom is acting just fine though.
After hard bricking a Droid DNA which I don't know if it was due to being unlocked and such I'm starting to feel rooting and custom roms isn't for me anymore. The Droid DNA was replaced and the replacement was never unlocked (and since it has most recent software it couldn't be unlocked. Don't get me wrong, I love not running stock devices. It's such a great feeling to get rid of all that carrier added bloat that I most liked.
I've actually moved on from the DNA as well. I'm on a One now from AT&T as my primary phone. And I so hate all that AT&T bloat in there. It's all disabled but still seeing it there just sends chills down my spine.
So now I am not so sure what to do about the One X now. My original thought was RUU back to factory and relock the bootloader and keep S-ON. That way if someone did look they'd only see "RELOCKED".
Makes me miss the easy days when I used a Captivate and Note 1. Those were so easy to use custom roms on.
iElvis said:
I didn't mean leaving it supercid--that is obviously a risk.
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Your previous post didn't explicitly say anything about that, one way or another. So I was just clarifying for the benefit of the OP. I knew what you meant, but wanted to make sure the OP did, too!