Probably showing my ignorance but i would like to know if any functionality is lost by changing the bootloader of a rom to the revolutionary bootloader when s-offing the rom?
I would also be grateful if somebody could explain to me what improvements or ill effects a change of bootloader can invoke i.e. what parts of the functionality of the rom do the bootloader effect.
Bootloader doesn't affect the ROM at all. The bootloader is just what boots into a rom.
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Probably showing my ignorance but i would like to know if any functionality is lost by changing the bootloader of a rom to the revolutionary bootloader when s-offing the rom?
I would also be grateful if somebody could explain to me what improvements or ill effects a change of bootloader can invoke i.e. what parts of the functionality of the rom do the bootloader effect.
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If you go through the Revolutionary process. You'll get a Hboot with a slightly different version.
You will however, get S-OFF and Su and a Custom Recovery (ClockworkMod, CWM).
The phone will operate normally. You will have the opportunity of backing it up (Nandroid), installing apps that require Root access and install Custom ROMs.
As I think the other poster mentioned, can't see it ATM, the bootloader is Phone based and independent of the ROM.
I originally used a similar process (AlphaRev) on my desire, AlphaRev and Unrevoked produced Revolutionary together.
From personal experience, it has not affected my phone in any adverse manner, as always YMMV. It opened possibilities though.
Then why are there different bootloaders??
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Then why are there different bootloaders??
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Usually 'cos HTC release slightly different versions of them.
The latest one 1.19 seems more locked down for example.
TBH most folks just use Revolutionary to S-OFF etc. then just leave it at that, mine is 1.17.1111 Once it's done it's done. There is a new Radio that seems to require 1.19 but as my phone works well with the current version I have installed, I'm leaving that well alone.
According to their site they can apply S-OFF to the following versions: HTC Sensation (pyramid) 1.17.0006, .0008, .0011 and .0012, 1.18.0000
What are you actually trying to do / want to achieve ?
what u loose is if u are on stock can update using HTC OTA
If u are stock rom u will not be able to make the OTA updates as it will hang since it expect its own hboot, this is the drawback I know. u will have them to reload a stock copy to have the official hboot and recovery again.
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If u are stock rom u will not be able to make the OTA updates as it will hang since it expect its own hboot, this is the drawback I know. u will have them to reload a stock copy to have the official hboot and recovery again.
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Good point.
However Custom ROMs seem to be "nicer" and tend to have updates earlier.
EDIT: As a fellow Vodafone UK user I thought I'd add that: When I had my HTC Desire (was running Eclair initially) and Froyo was being released, Vf UK was one of the slowest companies to release it. As the newer Froyo offered significant improvements I jumped at the chance to go for a Carrier independent ROM that supported Froyo. Thus freeing myself from Vf release schedule and also removing the Vf bloat ware that I never used. I did suffer a set back when I got the Sensation as initially S-OFF wasn't possible. This situation looks like it'll repeat itself with the release of ICS. PM if you want more info.
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Usually 'cos HTC release slightly different versions of them.
The latest one 1.19 seems more locked down for example.
TBH most folks just use Revolutionary to S-OFF etc. then just leave it at that, mine is 1.17.1111 Once it's done it's done. There is a new Radio that seems to require 1.19 but as my phone works well with the current version I have installed, I'm leaving that well alone.
According to their site they can apply S-OFF to the following versions: HTC Sensation (pyramid) 1.17.0006, .0008, .0011 and .0012, 1.18.0000
What are you actually trying to do / want to achieve ?
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I am trying to achieve the best possible stock experience but i don't want to lose the ability to root.
The reason i was asking was the fact that it was stated that, the new h-boot was needed for the new radio to work properly on the leaked ics with sense RUU which suggests that the bootloaders have slightly different functionality.
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I am trying to achieve the best possible stock experience but i don't want to lose the ability to root.
The reason i was asking was the fact that it was stated that, the new h-boot was needed for the new radio to work properly on the leaked ics with sense RUU which suggests that the bootloaders have slightly different functionality.
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Ahh you're talking about 11.59..... Sorry I think I got off topic :-((
I've seen a few still using 10.58.........10.15... on ICS with success. I have downloaded an ICS ROM and it seems to work on HBoot 1.17.1111 with my radio. Reflashed back to CM7 though, but I now have the option. I'll reflash ICS again and just confirm it works on 3G and WiFi as usual. I didn't check too far when I first tried. Please bear in mind that these ICS ROMs are based on unreleased versions, so really a taster at the moment.
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I've checked every possible tag in my mind about this and couldn't find one for Sensation.
Is it possible to revet back to the original state before the Revolutionary. Is it possible to completely uninstall the Revolutionary from my phone?
I'm not talking about the s-off -> s-on
I'm talking about returning the phones software to its original state.
Like it is never installed in the first place.
Thank you.
It's funny because last weekend I wanted to do exactly the same thing.
What I learnt was to go from S-OFF back to S-ON can be quite fiddly and tricky, abd if you mess it up rub the risk of bricking your phone.
In order to get the stock Rom, here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
Now it's just a case of finding which one you are, and your ril and radio.
Good luck
Thank you for your answer. But this is not what I want I can do this already but when I check the bootloader I see the pink "Locked" and it tells me that Revolutionary is still there.
I can go to S-On without any trouble that is not what I am asking.
What I am asking is to be able to get rid of every little bit of coding about the Revolutionary and return my phone to its original bootloader software.
If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
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If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
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When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
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When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
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flash stock hboot, should come with a ruu file, but you can always check if you extract rom.zip from the ruu.exe.
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I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
webmanya said:
I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
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i am saying that you probably have a modified hboot, because of the revolutionary sOFF, just like alpharev. you need to flash stock hboot to get everything back, hboot flashing is dangerous, if it goes wrong youll have a brick.
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and stock hboots are found in ruus.
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and stock hboots are found in ruus.
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Thank you for your answer. I understand what do you mean. But I'm not sure if it will help because while flashing stock rom it also updates hboot.
I am a new htc user, however not new to rooting and flashing. I have just recently considered rooting my One S but am not sure if I should just unlock the bootloader or wait for S-off. So my question is simply what are the cons of just unlocking the bootloader now and rooting or would it be better to wait for S-off and root then? Also, if I were to root now, what roms do you recommend?
S-OFF efforts are REALLY slow and it seems no serious attempts are going after it at the moment..
I'd imagine the only disadvantage of using HTC's current bootloader unlocking is that they know you did it and it could void some/all of your warranty. Of course, you also don't have full access to the ROM/HBOOT but you could still flash many things.. You also get a flagged device ("Tampered") if you flash anything which can only be removed with S-OFF AFAIK..
As for ROMs, there are plenty at the Dev section.. I tried a handful and most are good with varying degrees of stability. I am currently on TrickDroid since it is Sense based + extras.. Paranoid Android is my favorite CM-based and pretty stable overall.. AOKP is also good.. Haven't tried MIUI..
Really, it's up to you.. What do you prefer.. Just make sure you have a nandroid backup of your stock rom so you could revert back.
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S-OFF efforts are REALLY slow and it seems no serious attempts are going after it at the moment..
I'd imagine the only disadvantage of using HTC's current bootloader unlocking is that they know you did it and it could void some/all of your warranty. Of course, you also don't have full access to the ROM/HBOOT but you could still flash many things.. You also get a flagged device ("Tampered") if you flash anything which can only be removed with S-OFF AFAIK..
As for ROMs, there are plenty at the Dev section.. I tried a handful and most are good with varying degrees of stability. I am currently on TrickDroid since it is Sense based + extras.. Paranoid Android is my favorite CM-based and pretty stable overall.. AOKP is also good.. Haven't tried MIUI..
Really, it's up to you.. What do you prefer.. Just make sure you have a nandroid backup of your stock rom so you could revert back.
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So, contrary to what I've also heard here in several threads, returning to stock with the proper RUU (or even nandroid, however that works?) doesn't truly revert the device back to stock in the way that you retain full warranty? That actually is quite the roadblock for me to get a Jelly Bean ROM soon. That is, if HTC doesn't provide an update soon enough, which we all know is probably the case.
I forgot about RUU but I don't claim that I know if it removes the tampered flag or not.
Some people say that if you relock your bootloader you are good but I don't have any personal experience with HTC service with this regard.
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Pheroh said:
I forgot about RUU but I don't claim that I know if it removes the tampered flag or not.
Some people say that if you relock your bootloader you are good but I don't have any personal experience with HTC service with this regard.
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Even if you re lock the bootloader they can see it was tampered with. If you boot into the bootloader you'll see at the top it says tampered.
I wouldn't hold my breath for s- off. If you unlock and root your phone and then install TWRP you can just flash roms as though you do have s- off. TWRP will flash the boot.img. That way you don't need to hook your phone up to your pc and fastboot the boot.img. It's awesome Cuz you can just flash on the fly.
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Okay wel thank you for the help. Will this affect any updates that are put out by HTC or if I unlock the bootloader is there something I can do to revert back? And it sounds like there a couple different ways to unlock and root, what is the best way to go about it? Gosh rooting and flashing roms on the vibrant was significantly more simple
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Okay wel thank you for the help. Will this affect any updates that are put out by HTC or if I unlock the bootloader is there something I can do to revert back? And it sounds like there a couple different ways to unlock and root, what is the best way to go about it? Gosh rooting and flashing roms on the vibrant was significantly more simple
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I hear that you cannot OTA update stock ROMs after flashing a custom recovery unless you re-install stock recovery and relock your device.. It's a long process.. of course the important part to update is the radio and you could do it without going through all of that but you risk a permanent brick if something goes wrong..
As for the easiest way for rooting, check the all-in-one thread in dev forum.. I unlocked, rooted, and flashed recovery of mine using that application.. pretty noob friendly
Hello
can someone comment on the options with and progress for ROMS on base RUU_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_TMOUS_2.35.531.7_Radio_1.08ts.50.02.16_10.08e.50.04L_release_279577_signed.exe base?
I see folks like me who have busted wifi or bricked outcomes and a lot fo snark thrown thier way. hard to keep it all straight.
Thanks in advance.
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Hello
can someone comment on the options with and progress for ROMS on base RUU_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_TMOUS_2.35.531.7_Radio_1.08ts.50.02.16_10.08e.50.04L_release_279577_signed.exe base?
I see folks like me who have busted wifi or bricked outcomes and a lot fo snark thrown thier way. hard to keep it all straight.
Thanks in advance.
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Their Wifi breaks because they can't search for the fix. There are extra partitions that you have to flash in order to switch back and forth between all older bases and the newest Tmobile release.
T-Mobile Trickdroid and UnKnown_Retriution both work, and are both based on the latest T-Mobile release.
As for the partition, find them here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32170653&postcount=2668 I'm pretty sure you need a 1.09 hboot or lower to flash them.
Thanks. I don't think I had a choice of base I've had this 1 week. I'm hboot 1.14. I probably did the ota thoughtlessly in the first 5 minutes of owning this. Great phone but I like the nexus 7 base a little bettter for features. Looking forward to jellybean.
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Their Wifi breaks because they can't search for the fix. There are extra partitions that you have to flash in order to switch back and forth between all older bases and the newest Tmobile release.
T-Mobile Trickdroid and UnKnown_Retriution both work, and are both based on the latest T-Mobile release.
As for the partition, find them here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32170653&postcount=2668 I'm pretty sure you need a 1.09 hboot or lower to flash them.
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Im also on Hbot 14 and from what I keep reading there is no fix for our wifi issue since the patches ore for 9 and down. however, I'll try one of those roms. Thanks!
If you ran the T-Mobile update, which gives you HBOOT 1.14, your stuck with only running that same base roms for Wi-Fi to work. The only other option is to super cid and run RUU's 2.21 or 2.31 for it Wi-Fi to work on non 2.35 based roms.
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fmedrano1977 said:
If you ran the T-Mobile update, which gives you HBOOT 1.14, your stuck with only running that same base roms for Wi-Fi to work. The only other option is to super cid and run RUU's 2.21 or 2.31 for it Wi-Fi to work on non 2.35 based roms.
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So... To recap... 235 is current, the mod writers haven't caught up yet, and supercid involving 'dd' is an option for the impatient based on One X supercid.
dd is the quickest way to blow up a boot sector with a typo. I'm patient but at least this thread exists for the other unwary ota'rs
Might wanna try this if its true. I was reading the super cid thread but they didn't really touch bases on the subject. I wouldn't mind running strickly US sense roms but all the developement is on the Euro side and I need me some wifi so besides the eye candy its as good as it gets for us 1.14s. Hopefully you're right.
However, will super cid and new ruu save those files where the lower hboots have them? Also will I still have 1.14 ?
Seems weird to me that an OTA did that. I wonder if you could go into the TMo OTA edit some stuff and run the update and not get screwed. If only I knew more... I would dream less lol
Your stuck on HBOOT 1.14. Running RUU 2.21 or 2.31 will allow you to run any EU based rom with working Wi-Fi.
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fmedrano1977 said:
Your stuck on HBOOT 1.14. Running RUU 2.21 or 2.31 will allow you to run any EU based rom with working Wi-Fi.
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definitely want to try this
I read that what the s-off does is basically buy you time so you dont have to flash the boot.img on your pc. The Maximus HD rom says you must have your s-off, but how about if I have my s-on, but flash the boot.img, will it be the same thing?
Thanks
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elias.acab said:
I read that what the s-off does is basically buy you time so you dont have to flash the boot.img on your pc. The Maximus HD rom says you must have your s-off, but how about if I have my s-on, but flash the boot.img, will it be the same thing?
Thanks
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No, the reason you need S-OFF for MaximusHD is because that ROM requires a leaked unsigned firmware, which you can only flash if you're S-OFF.
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No, the reason you need S-OFF for MaximusHD is because that ROM requires a leaked unsigned firmware, which you can only flash if you're S-OFF.
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Oh I see, thanks!
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Hey, listen!
Please somebody help me. I have rooted and unlocked bootloader on my HTC One S. I want to install MaximusHD ROM on my phone, but I'm pretty sure I'm not S-off.
I have CM10.1 ROM installed on my phone.
Can somebody please tell me which guide should I follow so I can be S-off and install the desired ROM (MaximusHD)???
Also, with s-off the red letters disappear from splash screen? Thanks in advance. I really hope you can help me. I want sense 5 on my phone.
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rolo143 said:
Hey, listen!
Please somebody help me. I have rooted and unlocked bootloader on my HTC One S. I want to install MaximusHD ROM on my phone, but I'm pretty sure I'm not S-off.
I have CM10.1 ROM installed on my phone.
Can somebody please tell me which guide should I follow so I can be S-off and install the desired ROM (MaximusHD)???
Also, with s-off the red letters disappear from splash screen? Thanks in advance. I really hope you can help me. I want sense 5 on my phone.
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Moonshine S-OFF: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2325590
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Facepalm S-OFF: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155135
Absolutely right.
And how to remove the red warning text you can find here.
Keep in mind that once you're s-off and want to return to s-on (warranty, whatever...) you'll need to reflash any stock bootloader. Else you'll definitely brick your phone. Best thing is to run any RUU before you set s-on flag on your phone then. It'll automatically restore the stock bootloader that comes with it.
S-off to install Maximus then S-on for final step. It's Ok.
I must do S-on because I get boot loops. Flashed Temporary radio 1.13 because it restarted auto.
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S-off to install Maximus then S-on for final step. It's Ok.
I must do S-on because I get boot loops. Flashed Temporary radio 1.13 because it restarted auto.
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So it's very unstable with s-off?
I mean if I'm going to have WiFi trouble and radio and bootloops I guess is better with s-on?
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rolo143 said:
So it's very unstable with s-off?
I mean if I'm going to have WiFi trouble and radio and bootloops I guess is better with s-on?
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Your device must have s-off without s-off you WON'T BE ABLE TO RUN ROM.
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Try S-off first. Do it right way.
Then if you can't do anything to get it running or get boot loops, you should try S-on.
I feel it's perfect after 2 day and nothing worry about that.. Flash Temporary-Radio-Installer-V4 if your phone auto restart.
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Try S-off first. Do it right way.
Then if you can't do anything to get it running or get boot loops, you should try S-on.
I feel it's perfect after 2 day and nothing worry about that.. Flash Temporary-Radio-Installer-V4 if your phone auto restart.
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I highly suggest AGAINST going S-ON with Maximus.
If you S-ON, you cannot flash an RUU to lower your hboot back down to hboot 2.15. This means you will be unable to revert back to an older rom or to use the current CM roms.
S-ON while on HBOOT 2.16 is a dead-end and you're forcing yourself to be on either Maximus or another rom that is compatible with 2.16 like Magio. Until someone figures out how to S-OFF while on hboot 2.16, you're stuck with it.
If you're S-OFF, installed Maximus, and you're experiencing bootloop problems and radio problems. Please look into the rcdata partition fix that me and many other HTC One S users were experiencing. Don't S-ON until you give this a try.
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I highly suggest AGAINST going S-ON with Maximus.
If you S-ON, you cannot flash an RUU to lower your hboot back down to hboot 2.15. This means you will be unable to revert back to an older rom or to use the current CM roms.
S-ON while on HBOOT 2.16 is a dead-end and you're forcing yourself to be on either Maximus or another rom that is compatible with 2.16 like Magio. Until someone figures out how to S-OFF while on hboot 2.16, you're stuck with it.
If you're S-OFF, installed Maximus, and you're experiencing bootloop problems and radio problems. Please look into the rcdata partition fix that me and many other HTC One S users were experiencing. Don't S-ON until you give this a try.
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you're right but I don't see any problem when I try the rcdata fix.
b) Type "mount" to see a list of mounts. I saw that the data block (p35) was being mounted again in /sdcard, which should be (p36). Checking /etc/fstab shows that the /sdcard was commented out!
I can do S-Off with hboot 2.16.
flashed with s-on
I am very new to Android, having been converted from iOS. I had extensive experience with jailbreaking and all that.. flashing Windows Mobile with my HTC TyTn as well.
After having my One for almost 3 months I decided to root it and explore other ROMs. Rooting wasn't an issue and I flashed MaxiumusHD 14 which was replaced within 2 weeks with version 20. Everything went well and I've got battery life that certainly exceeds, by a long shot, versus stock battery consumption rate. (Juice Defender and Profile Scheduler definitely help there too). Original stock ROM consumed a lot of power with the HTCCheckIn service. Noticed that here in Brazil I believe my battery life is worse than when I purchased the phone in Canada, I believe it's due to poor service coverage areas (weak data signals, in particular).
As I learn more, I realize that I don't believe that any of the steps I performed to root and install Clockwork involved making S-OFF active. My bootloader shows S-ON. ROM works fine and I didn't get any errors in flashing. How is that possible?
Am I missing something obvious here?
Should I do moonshine S-OFF and flash again?
I've frozen the updater using Titanium Backup (purchased that, it's great) so that I don't keep getting pestered to update to Maximus 21. I just flashed 20! (and I see no issues and nothing in the change log seems to be a huge selling point).
Thanks for the assistance with this newbie.
Matt
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I am very new to Android, having been converted from iOS. I had extensive experience with jailbreaking and all that.. flashing Windows Mobile with my HTC TyTn as well.
After having my One for almost 3 months I decided to root it and explore other ROMs. Rooting wasn't an issue and I flashed MaxiumusHD 14 which was replaced within 2 weeks with version 20. Everything went well and I've got battery life that certainly exceeds, by a long shot, versus stock battery consumption rate. (Juice Defender and Profile Scheduler definitely help there too). Original stock ROM consumed a lot of power with the HTCCheckIn service. Noticed that here in Brazil I believe my battery life is worse than when I purchased the phone in Canada, I believe it's due to poor service coverage areas (weak data signals, in particular).
As I learn more, I realize that I don't believe that any of the steps I performed to root and install Clockwork involved making S-OFF active. My bootloader shows S-ON. ROM works fine and I didn't get any errors in flashing. How is that possible?
Am I missing something obvious here?
Should I do moonshine S-OFF and flash again?
I've frozen the updater using Titanium Backup (purchased that, it's great) so that I don't keep getting pestered to update to Maximus 21. I just flashed 20! (and I see no issues and nothing in the change log seems to be a huge selling point).
Thanks for the assistance with this newbie.
Matt
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I would post this question again in the HTC One section, this is the HTC One S section. They would most likely be able to help you.
tivofool said:
I would post this question again in the HTC One section, this is the HTC One S section. They would most likely be able to help you.
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Ok, will do. Sorry I didn't notice the S. Thanks
Last time I had an HTC phone was before they introduced the S-Off / S-ON.
So, I already got TWRP installed
Working great, LTE/4G is good, I made stock backup for everything.
Planning to install the Bad Boy ROM
but can't find anything about how to set S-Off / S-ON.
I was trying to install BusyBox, Titanium Backup, Adaway, and many other Apps which requires root, all of which won't work properly because it's S-On? so I want to switch to S-Off, make the install changes, then switch it back to S-On?
Because as I understand it, when it's S-Off many Apps and even LTE/4G might not work because it needs to be in S-On ?
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in download mode it shows:
htc_ocnwhl PVT S-ON
S-off is not available yet, but hopefully it will be. If you install Badboyz ROM you will have a choice of Superuser or Magisk for root. Those apps should be able to work once you obtain root, nothing to do with S-off/S-on. S-off is mainly for flashing unsigned firmware. In all the HTC phones I have had, never once did I lose 4G/LTE when obtaining S-off.
BusyBox says it cannot write to system.
Same with Adaway, it's even a Known issue they have listed in the Help pages, that S-Off is needed to be able to modify the HOST file, when it's S-On it cannot write to it.
Hopefully we can get S-Off working on this phone, really liking this U11 so far. :good:
As far as I know there is a thread about systemless AdAway if running stock rooted with Magisk. Not sure though.
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If it's anything like recent htc phones the stock kernel also write protects /system even when rooted. Custom kernel should fix your issues.
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If it's anything like recent htc phones the stock kernel also write protects /system even when rooted. Custom kernel should fix your issues.
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I'll try that :good:
Yes, a lot of Apps that I use that needs to write to System, heck even I myself want to replace and remove stuff from system, like all those Google Stuff.
Anyway yeah, I can't write to System partition with the stock kernel it seems.
Which of the currently released custom kernels allows to write to System?
... time to check the Dev section to see what's available :laugh:
server hiccup duplicated
AllGamer said:
... time to check the Dev section to see what's available :laugh:
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Maybe that would have been a better idea: (1) BEFORE you did everything you did to your U11 and (2) BEFORE you started this thread.
There are lots of resources here on XDA. It seems a great number of people are just doing things to their handsets before they read up on the complications and consequences, then asking questions afterwards. (One other poster on the forum actually unlocked, flashed an alternate recovery and ROM, without making any Nandroids or backups of stock, and only THEN tried his SIM in the device, only to find that it didn't work and he has no way back now. Permission to smack the moron?)
If you have $649 to throw away, great. Otherwise, let's be careful out there and take a little more time to study before we bork our phones.
And, oh, XDA has a GREAT search function, too!
Seems like Kirisakura-OCEAN-0.2 might do the trick.
Optionally I could go with LeeDrOiD ROM, but it's based on Europe version of the stock image.
Not sure if that will affect the Radio for the American models.
AllGamer said:
Seems like Kirisakura-OCEAN-0.2 might do the trick.
Optionally I could go with LeeDrOiD ROM, but it's based on Europe version of the stock image.
Not sure if that will affect the Radio for the American models.
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LeeDrOiD is safe. I flashed European version of roms all the time.
Yeah s-off is only needed if you want to change base firmware (radio, bootloader etc). Most usefull for downgrading the firmware.
Also S-off lets you reset the phone to LOCKED without the RELOCKED normal htcdev unlock allows for.
AllGamer said:
Seems like Kirisakura-OCEAN-0.2 might do the trick.
Optionally I could go with LeeDrOiD ROM, but it's based on Europe version of the stock image.
Not sure if that will affect the Radio for the American models.
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I am running LeeDrOiD on sprint USDA and its working perfectly!!!!
AllGamer said:
Seems like Kirisakura-OCEAN-0.2 might do the trick.
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Oh and do you have the dl url for Kirisakura-OCEAN-0.2 for kali? or any variation of linux I'll make it work!!! >>>>>?
I will hack it if given the tool!
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Also S-off lets you reset the phone to LOCKED without the RELOCKED normal htcdev unlock allows for.
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Not on the U11 with its temp S-OFF shenanigans. The XTC2Clip can gain temp S-OFF on the U11 (needs a new 50 dollar adapter) but so far there is no way to set the bootloader back to locked status, it's relock only. HTC needs to release a bootloader that supports S-OFF - either through a leak or a legitimate firmware update - or S-OFF is going to be out of reach for all practical purposes for awhile. Temp S-OFF is a huge liability. Screw up one thing while you're in that state, as soon as the phone goes back to S-ON at the next boot, you've got a brick.
semi-noob here, and slightly confused... The past phones I've flashed, seemed to equate "S-OFF" to "able to remount /system as RW'..... S-ON/OFF is unrelated to /system remounting, having root access/root shell, etc?