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Little confused on root

Hey all. I am considering leaving the v10 for the note 5. I know the Note 5 used to be rootable. I also know Sammy released some updates. Will the Note 5 still be rootable if I pick one up from T-Mobile now?

Have you browsed this part of the forum?

thegameksk said:
Hey all. I am considering leaving the v10 for the note 5. I know the Note 5 used to be rootable. I also know Sammy released some updates. Will the Note 5 still be rootable if I pick one up from T-Mobile now?
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Of course it is.

thegameksk said:
Hey all. I am considering leaving the v10 for the note 5. I know the Note 5 used to be rootable. I also know Sammy released some updates. Will the Note 5 still be rootable if I pick one up from T-Mobile now?
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You really need to do some reading in here for real and be careful before rooting

thegameksk said:
Hey all. I am considering leaving the v10 for the note 5. I know the Note 5 used to be rootable. I also know Sammy released some updates. Will the Note 5 still be rootable if I pick one up from T-Mobile now?
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you need to be careful. If you care about android pay/ samsung pay specially. you can't have root. you will trip your knox and it's irreversible. you won't ever use samsung pay and warranty will be void.
if you are like myself who doesn't care about samsung pay and other pay crap. then root will be a must.
most things or deep access requires root

This is how you root. Yes, they are still rootable. Only the t-mobile ones are good, basically. Once you are rooted head to the development section and get you a rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3187422

Note 7 and it's fate

Given the fact that Samsung rolled out all the Snapdragon s7 and s7e with locked bootloaders, I have little to no hope for the note 7. What do you guys think about its chances of coming with an unlocked bootloader?

Critical Detox said:
Given the fact that Samsung rolled out all the Snapdragon s7 and s7e with locked bootloaders, I have little to no hope for the note 7. What do you guys think about its chances of coming with an unlocked bootloader?
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All the future samsung usa phones which are branded tmobile, at&t, sprint and verizon will have locked bootloaders
If you want a rooted samsung phone in the future you will all need to buy the international models.
Thats why I purchased the S7 EDGE G935F international model a few weeks ago. All the international samsung phones are very easily rooted and none of them have locked bootloaders.
And to top it off all the samsung international phone models come sim unlocked .
Good luck.
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I wonder how pricy will the Note 7 be.
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Critical Detox said:
Given the fact that Samsung rolled out all the Snapdragon s7 and s7e with locked bootloaders, I have little to no hope for the note 7. What do you guys think about its chances of coming with an unlocked bootloader?
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I think chances are zero
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My main concern for it is im a huge Viper supporter, and If can't root and get Viper on that device....That device is dead to me. I'm hoping some miracle comes through and we get the Samsung device we all want AND an unlocked bootloader.
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Misterjunky said:
All the future samsung usa phones which are branded tmobile, at&t, sprint and verizon will have locked bootloaders
If you want a rooted samsung phone in the future you will all need to buy the international models.
Thats why I purchased the S7 EDGE G935F international model a few weeks ago. All the international samsung phones are very easily rooted and none of them have locked bootloaders.
And to top it off all the samsung international phone models come sim unlocked .
Good luck.
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Root has been achieved for the s7 and edge on ATT and Tmobile. May want to word your answers in such a way that they dont seem like absolutes.
Also every international model of every phone comes sim unlocked. Thats why there is a category for unlocked phones.
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I saw that a few days ago, maybe In due time they'll get the bootloader unlocked too.
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pcriz said:
Root has been achieved for the s7 and edge on ATT and Tmobile. May want to word your answers in such a way that they dont seem like absolutes.
Also every international model of every phone comes sim unlocked. Thats why there is a category for unlocked phones.
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That's awesome news! Do you know if they posted the root procedures for Tmobile S7 on XDA? I haven't seen them yet.

tribleten said:
That's awesome news! Do you know if they posted the root procedures for Tmobile S7 on XDA? I haven't seen them yet.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragons7variantsrooted-blog-19194.php

pcriz said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragons7variantsrooted-blog-19194.php
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Oh ok...seems like a few people are having issues with that method (as most new root methods), but it's definitely a start in the right direction.

tribleten said:
Oh ok...seems like a few people are having issues with that method (as most new root methods), but it's definitely a start in the right direction.
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I've seen both sides on it, some got issues and some are reporting that everything is okay. Another interesting aspect is people reporting this doesnt trip knox, while being rooted samsung pay doesnt work but when they revert knox still shows 0x0.

pcriz said:
I've seen both sides on it, some got issues and some are reporting that everything is okay. Another interesting aspect is people reporting this doesnt trip knox, while being rooted samsung pay doesnt work but when they revert knox still shows 0x0.
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They my understanding is knox remains 0x0 because it uses a repair kernel
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Crazy how there is not much talk about the Note 7 with it only about 2 weeks away. I am really mixed about getting it still since I know it is going to be locked. The only thing that is really holding me back at this point is not being able to use Viper. There are a couple of other things that would be nice to still be able to do but those aren't major. Android has come a long way and the need for a custom rom just isn't what it used to be. I really like the Note line and prefer to stay with it so I may just bit the bullet and go without root. Whether I get it at launch will also depend on the special offers they are giving out. I got the Year of Netflix and free VR with the S7 Edge before I returned it so if they have a simular offer, I will probably jump on it.

chipworkz said:
Crazy how there is not much talk about the Note 7 with it only about 2 weeks away. I am really mixed about getting it still since I know it is going to be locked. The only thing that is really holding me back at this point is not being able to use Viper. There are a couple of other things that would be nice to still be able to do but those aren't major. Android has come a long way and the need for a custom rom just isn't what it used to be. I really like the Note line and prefer to stay with it so I may just bit the bullet and go without root. Whether I get it at launch will also depend on the special offers they are giving out. I got the Year of Netflix and free VR with the S7 Edge before I returned it so if they have a simular offer, I will probably jump on it.
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I was just thinking this same thing...i own my note 5 outright so i may just trade it in if there's a good deal...progress has been made with root on the s7's so I'm hopeful similar leaps are made...nonetheless, i have to say, my girls note 5 is bone stock unrooted and with few exceptions there's little that can't be done...for her nothing, and for me, well, I'm just finally learning to develop on Linux so i definitely want to keep SOME rootable device in my stable as well, but that's might end up meaning a second device (next nexus?) and swapping my sim around smh...it's just that usb3.0, ip68, 256gb storage and 6gb ram PLUS a true edge screen is almost too much to resist, root or not, plus there's always samsung pay while it's still 0x0...i see myself getting it, only question is when and will i also spent flagship money on a second device (OP3? nexus? Htc?- pretty much all are sd820...) until a good root method or unlocked bootloader becomes a reality....
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Rx8Driver said:
I was just thinking this same thing...i own my note 5 outright so i may just trade it in if there's a good deal...
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This is what will break me, some awesome deal with two phones, VR, and what not.
Probably gonna go with that blue if i do buy.
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I'm always with 2 phones, 1 is usually a nexus device, the note series have been my go to though. I'll likely get the N7 and do what I can do to it with in the confines of no super user. Nexus devices are so cheap, you can always pick up one for around $200, excluding the 6p. The devs here on XDA are top notch, so I'm always confident they'll come up with something.
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jaxenroth said:
I'm always with 2 phones, 1 is usually a nexus device, the note series have been my go to though. I'll likely get the N7 and do what I can do to it with in the confines of no super user. Nexus devices are so cheap, you can always pick up one for around $200, excluding the 6p. The devs here on XDA are top notch, so I'm always confident they'll come up with something.
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Well a locked bootloader is a locked bootloader in most cases. The s7 exploit is really just a Samsung repair kernel that was leaked that's really not fit for prime time, unfortunately...
And even that is still limited in no custom recovery or roms, just stock debloat, xposed, viper/etc...
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it's even worse now lol
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...oid-7-0-wont-let-phone-boot-software-corrupt/
i will no longer buying any samsung phones. my note 5 has been on the top for 2 months now
no good roms to try
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Misterjunky said:
All the future samsung usa phones which are branded tmobile, at&t, sprint and verizon will have locked bootloaders
If you want a rooted samsung phone in the future you will all need to buy the international models.
Thats why I purchased the S7 EDGE G935F international model a few weeks ago. All the international samsung phones are very easily rooted and none of them have locked bootloaders.
And to top it off all the samsung international phone models come sim unlocked .
Good luck.
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sadly, you can't have aosp because of xynos therefore useless to me

TheUndertaker21 said:
it's even worse now lol
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...oid-7-0-wont-let-phone-boot-software-corrupt/
i will no longer buying any samsung phones. my note 5 has been on the top for 2 months now
no good roms to try
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sadly, you can't have aosp because of xynos therefore useless to me
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I wouldn't say can't, it can in fact happen and has. It just isn't easy. There are snapdragon devices that never got stable CM builds. Just in the case with the exynos, the odds aren't in their favor.

If I do get the Note 7, which I probably will, it will be with the knowledge that if most likely will never be unlocked. I have been running pure stock and not even rooted for a couple weeks now to see how unrooted life is. I have been rooted and running a custom rom for several years now. Like I said before, there are some cool features in custom roms but the need for them just isn't what it used to be. The only thing I am truly missing is Viper. So for me it comes down to the simple question of which is more important. What is more important, all of the new features of the new phone or the ability to use Viper.
I swore I wouldn't buy a locked phone and would move to the Nexus line but based on the rumors of the next Nexus phones, I am not thrilled with them. I just don't see anything that I would rather move to over the Note 7 based on what we know so far. That along with the fact that I am on the original Jump program so without needing to buy the phone outright, I need to pick from T-Mobiles selections.
A lot of the reasons to have root can be accomplished with apps so life without root isn't a huge deal for me anymore. I just wish there was a Viper alternative that can be used without root. Anyone know of one?

Is there a Nougat " bloatware free" flash for the Note5?

Is there a flash that's clean of bloatware for the note?
I know there's no root for the N5 and I learned about the flashing idea from the S8 forum here at xda. The person wrote to flash unlocked. Verizon says that all their 4g phones are unlocked. How do flash unlocked?
Thanks

Can anyone comment on this positivity or negatively.?
Thanks

pbman1953 said:
Can anyone comment on this positivity or negatively.?
Thanks
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There is no bloatware free firmware that you can flash. When Verizon says unlocked by that they mean the sim card slots unlocked so you can use it with any carrier you choose.. You cannot flash nothing to the N5 with the locked bootloader.

I really appreciate you chiming in. I guess a bloatware free flash is wishful thinking. At this point and since my upgrade is in November I've given up hope on any chance of a root for the note5. And almost don't care anymore. My next phone may be the s8 or s8+. So far I don't see any review on the Note 8 that's swaying me towards another note. I'm almost thinking 7s iPhone series but probably won't.
Do you know if the Verizon s8 series has root?
Thanks!

pbman1953 said:
I really appreciate you chiming in. I guess a bloatware free flash is wishful thinking. At this point and since my upgrade is in November I've given up hope on any chance of a root for the note5. And almost don't care anymore. My next phone may be the s8 or s8+. So far I don't see any review on the Note 8 that's swaying me towards another note. I'm almost thinking 7s iPhone series but probably won't.
Do you know if the Verizon s8 series has root?
Thanks!
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I have the Verizon S8+ and yes it has root access!! I also just received my new Samsung Galaxy Note 8 and I'm messing with it testing the battery VS the S8+ because the Note 8 is 3,300 and the S8+ is 3,500 but the funny thing is the Note 8 lasted longer and I had them both doing the same exact thing brightness was 100% on both and both were playing a YouTube video and the first one to shut off was the S8+ so I was a bit shocked but then again the Note 8 has more ram and the firmware was perfected just for the Note 8 and battery longevity, so I'm going to keep the Note 8 for now.

MrMike2182 said:
I have the Verizon S8+ and yes it has root access!! I also just received my new Samsung Galaxy Note 8 and I'm messing with it testing the battery VS the S8+ because the Note 8 is 3,300 and the S8+ is 3,500 but the funny thing is the Note 8 lasted longer and I had them both doing the same exact thing brightness was 100% on both and both were playing a YouTube video and the first one to shut off was the S8+ so I was a bit shocked but then again the Note 8 has more ram and the firmware was perfected just for the Note 8 and battery longevity, so I'm going to keep the Note 8 for now.
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Nice!! Well, I'm still leaning to a the S8 but I'll still see what the Pixel 2 is like. I like the thought of being bloat free. But with a rooted s8 or plus that could be a wash in favor for Samsung.
Thanks!

so this means you cannot flash an unlocked firmware on the N5, like you can on the S8+, to remove Verizon's bloatware and stuff?

(Root Discussion) [Nothing Yet] Snapdragon G965U

All discussion and info pertaining to root goes here.
Will update this OP as needed.
4/26/2018- There are TWO people working on root. Don't expect it ANYTIME soon. ?. Zero progress has been made since release.

Reserved

This is the single most 'thing' I'm waiting for...is a root method for the S9+ ... I wouldn't mind something like samfail for the Note 8, which I'm running and is absolutely perfect in doing everything it needs to...
I used to be all about ROM ROM ROM ... but honestly the stock firmware has been great with it debloated and cleaned up.
Hoping for the best... If we get Root for the S9+ (SD variant) I'm in for another S9+ lol...
Note: As some of you know like with the Note 8, there exists the v1, v2, v2.5, v3 root methods for the different firmware. What I'm curious about is at what point will we be completely locked out of our S9+'s due to those virus updates/patches?
Tip: DO NO BLINDLY JUMP TO UPDATES FOLKS... NEIN NEIN NEIN.... If you roll up too far and that virus update/patch so happens to be the one to lock the device out from ever being able to obtain some kind of root, you'll be totally SOL.

iunlock said:
This is the single most 'thing' I'm waiting for...is a root for the S9+ ... I wouldn't mind something like samfail for the Note 8, which I'm running and is absolutely perfect in doing everything it needs to...
I used to be all about ROM ROM ROM ... but honestly the stock firmware has been great with it debloated and cleaned up.
Hoping for the best... If we get Root for the S9+ (SD variant) I'm in for another S9+ lol...
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Stock has come a long way.
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sicfast said:
Stock has come a long way.
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Yes indeed it has. MM 6.0 was great...Nougat 7.0 has been awesome....Oreo 8.0 has been a complete disaster like LP 5.0 was.
I still favor the simplicity of the good ol' JB 4.3 days lol....
At the end of the day, I'll take root over a custom ROM any day and I'm sure a lot of folks are in that same boat as well...
Not being able to use Titanium Back Up has been painful. :fingers-crossed: for root for the S9+

iunlock said:
Yes indeed it has. MM 6.0 was great...Nougat 7.0 has been awesome....Oreo 8.0 has been a complete disaster like LP 5.0 was.
I still favor the simplicity of the good ol' JB 4.3 days lol....
At the end of the day, I'll take root over a custom ROM any day and I'm sure a lot of folks are in that same boat as well...
Not being able to use Titanium Back Up has been painful. :fingers-crossed: for root for the S9+
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What's the problem with 8.0? It hasn't even been fully released on all devices yet.
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sicfast said:
What's the problem with 8.0? It hasn't even been fully released on all devices yet.
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For the apps that I use, it's mainly compatibility issues...also as time goes on things are getting more and more locked down. Heck Android P might as well rename it to Android iOS. It's absolutely daunting on where Android is headed now.... it is drunk on the Apple kool aid.
What happened to asop and the freedom right?

I'm very happy with 8.0

iunlock said:
For the apps that I use, it's mainly compatibility issues...also as time goes on things are getting more and more locked down. Heck Android P might as well rename it to Android iOS. It's absolutely daunting on where Android is headed now.... it is drunk on the Apple kool aid.
What happened to asop and the freedom right?
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The reason why it's become so bad, my opinion anyway, is people who have no business rooting their phones are doing it and wrecking their phones, then wanting someone else to foot the bill for it.
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sicfast said:
The reason why it's become so bad, my opinion anyway, is people who have no business rooting their phones are doing it and wrecking their phones, then wanting someone else to foot the bill for it.
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That could very well add to the sky falling.
However, a lot of this proprietary security stuff is causing the lock down too with Knox etc...
They should just offer the ability to unlock bl/BB and have a button that needs be to tapped 10x to confirm the void in warranty by proceeding... That way it's idiot proof and fair game.
If people are too lazy to read, then they deserve to pay the tuition of reality check 101 lol..
I know I'm blunt... But it's the truth and most would agree.
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iunlock said:
That could very well add to the sky falling.
However, a lot of this proprietary security stuff is causing the lock down too with Knox etc...
They should just offer the ability to unlock bl/BB and have a button that needs be to tapped 10x to confirm the void in warranty by proceeding... That way it's idiot proof and fair game.
If people are too lazy to read, then they deserve to pay the tuition of reality check 101 lol..
I know I'm blunt... But it's the truth and most would agree.
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Pretty much the way it is in the automotive world. You blow it up, you fix it.
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why someone even bother to buy trash broken snapdragon version, just why ?
we have a normal unlocked working version with exynos chipset.

G965F doesnt support B71 for Tmobile in USA

x111 said:
why someone even bother to buy trash broken snapdragon version, just why ?
we have a normal unlocked working version with exynos chipset.
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Because that is the default device for the North American market.
I'm perfectly happy with my SD version. Good battery life and performance seems to be spectacular.

x111 said:
why someone even bother to buy trash broken snapdragon version, just why ?
we have a normal unlocked working version with exynos chipset.
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...AND because those with T-Mobile can get land a killer deal on the top Samsung flagships.
Ex. T-Mobile had a BOGO Deal on the Note 8, which makes both of my Note 8's come out to ~$410. If I sell my 2nd one, I would be making +$300 to own my current Note 8 LOL ... just saying... (Pic attached of the $820 pre paid Mastercard for proof that I got back for the 2nd Note 8... not that it's needed, but it doesn't hurt to back it up.) Even if I keep my 2nd Note 8 as a back up, I'm still in the win for obtaining a flagship for less than the wannabe chinese knock off's out there that are no longer really cheap at $450-$500+ now *cough* OP5 ...
The S9/S9+ has a trade in deal right now as well for either $200 or $360, depending on what phone you trade in. So why would I pass up getting $200 for my old S4's and S5's? ...there's no way to get even close to that in today's market.... it's a no brainer.
I do agree that the Exynos variants are much better in terms of CPU and Dev support. A non rooted phone is useless to me, so that is one of the reasons why I even opted for the SD Note 8, ONLY because it has root. As for the S9+ there is a working Titanium Back Up alternative that allows me to freeze the virus software updates so that's the only reason why the S9+ is not going back. We're all hoping for a root for the SD S9+'s.... fingers crossed.
Of course I'd love to get my hands on the 256GB Exynos S9+, however, it is still unsure if it will suffer from the carrier aggregation the Exynos Note 8 had on our US networks. I know that there are a few folks that have ordered the Korean 256GB Exynos variant, so once we get confirmation that those work 100% with TM, I'm all in for another S9+.

So I keep pushing the first update back. Should I go ahead and take it? I'm on Verizon and I know sometimes firmware from release date is easier to root.
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Hopefully the S9 line gets root. The S8 having no proper form of root at the time and the Note 8 being such a good deal while having root made it hard not to get. Hopefully they Note 9 has a form of Samfail again.

jagrave said:
So I keep pushing the first update back. Should I go ahead and take it? I'm on Verizon and I know sometimes firmware from release date is easier to root.
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I'm wondering the same thing. Please.
Dude, after the s5, all of my knowledge on rooting etc has gone in the crapper.
I have the unlocked us variant but am on Verizon's network.
As ll the talk regarding the s8+ was even so hard for me to understand and all this used to be so easy. Where did I take a wrong turn? Lol

Doesn't look good guys. Seems like zero development is going on for us Snapdragon users. I've asked and looked in every message board. Seems it's only me and 2 other people working on root.

lightninbug said:
Doesn't look good guys. Seems like zero development is going on for us Snapdragon users. I've asked and looked in every message board. Seems it's only me and 2 other people working on root.
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Noooooooo! I don't even know where to begin to help.
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Question Root for US variant?

Hi all, I'm looking to upgrade my phone from a 2020 Moto G Power. The A53 5G is in the running to be a possible upgrade but I need to have root on my phone. I know Samsung has been anti-consumer for years now and have had locked bootloaders (RIP the days of flashing custom roms to my Galaxy S3). From my brief research, it looks like root is unfortunately not possible on the A536U - just wanted to confirm its true?

ShadowPanzer said:
Hi all, I'm looking to upgrade my phone from a 2020 Moto G Power. The A53 5G is in the running to be a possible upgrade but I need to have root on my phone. I know Samsung has been anti-consumer for years now and have had locked bootloaders (RIP the days of flashing custom roms to my Galaxy S3). From my brief research, it looks like root is unfortunately not possible on the A536U - just wanted to confirm its true?
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Seems that way. There was a paid service floating around to do it but idk if it still even works yet

ShaDisNX255 said:
Seems that way. There was a paid service floating around to do it but idk if it still even works yet
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Damn, what an absolute shame. Great phone, given the price, but I can't live without root. Appreciate the answer!