Problem with BACKGROUND RUNNING in third party apps after clean recents ! - Honor 8 Questions & Answers

Hello, I can trust my phone to have third party ALARM, or anything I needalways running on background (third party) !!!
Because i like to go to recents and clean everything!! But i would like some apps still runing on background even right after a clean in recents! There is my list of apps I am having problems: ALARM CLOCK PLUS, CALL RECORDER, WHATSAPP, INSTAGRAM, SNAPCHAT, SANTADER CREDIT CARD APP!!
Can you help me?

Invulnerablo said:
Hello, I can trust my phone to have third party ALARM, or anything I needalways running on background (third party) !!!
Because i like to go to recents and clean everything!! But i would like some apps still runing on background even right after a clean in recents! There is my list of apps I am having problems: ALARM CLOCK PLUS, CALL RECORDER, WHATSAPP, INSTAGRAM, SNAPCHAT, SANTADER CREDIT CARD APP!!
Can you help me?
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Clearing your recents will kill all the listed apps there. This is a bad habit because you're putting more strain in the CPU. Please try to avoid this.

bad habit indeed!!!
but its bad from the system to let it happen with important apps!! Huawei should make a list of protected apps (in EMUI 5.0) like i read about in EMUI 4.0!

adriansticoid said:
Clearing your recents will kill all the listed apps there. This is a bad habit because you're putting more strain in the CPU. Please try to avoid this.
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Do you know if i root my honor and make some of this apps, SYSTEM APPS, system will still kill them?

Invulnerablo said:
Do you know if i root my honor and make some of this apps, SYSTEM APPS, system will still kill them?
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Yes they will still be killed regardless.
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[Q] "force closing problem"

Recently I have download some apps that would have to run in the background
Apps :
Lockdown pro
Tasker
Lookout
Slidelock
Open mic+
However after some time, these get forced without any notifications
For slide lock, accessibility off after some time which makes "forced" closed.
I have been finding what is the problem or a solution to this problem but there hasn't not been any concrete solutions.
Possible reasons:
-1GB ram
-MIUI ROM
-???
Please I need help for this problem. Thanks in advanced!
My best guess for you is that you run out of ram. Do you use other ram-intensive apps? I'd just make sure you're clearing the apps out of your recents once you close out of them.
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jma9454 said:
My best guess for you is that you run out of ram. Do you use other ram-intensive apps? I'd just make sure you're clearing the apps out of your recents once you close out of them.
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After reading your reply , I tried not enabling an app in the background to see if all the apps would be disabled again.
Currently , I off tasker and the apps doesn't seem to force close.
Anyway , thanks!
jma9454 said:
My best guess for you is that you run out of ram. Do you use other ram-intensive apps? I'd just make sure you're clearing the apps out of your recents once you close out of them.
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I think it is not low ram issue.... may be app or OS and processer are not compatible with each others
drainboy said:
Recently I have download some apps that would have to run in the background
Apps :
Lockdown pro
Tasker
Lookout
Slidelock
Open mic+
However after some time, these get forced without any notifications
For slide lock, accessibility off after some time which makes "forced" closed.
I have been finding what is the problem or a solution to this problem but there hasn't not been any concrete solutions.
Possible reasons:
-1GB ram
-MIUI ROM
-???
Please I need help for this problem. Thanks in advanced!
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With lockdown pro can you act that apps are FC so maybe you have setted that up?

Keeps killing apps

Hello. My mate 8 keeps killing apps. Realistically this happens when the apps do not get started on start up at all or the all clear button is used for running apps and these apps to not get re started. I have looked at the permissions they have been given auto run permissions they have been given run in the background permissions they have been given battery optimization excuse meaning they're allowed to run no matter what the battery. They have also been given data usage permissions. Essentially these are apps such as the Tasker the locale app things that automate phone
If someone knows an automation app that is not murdered by this phone I'll just change apps
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Lol I actually don't mind this. Saves me so much battery for apps like Facebook
Yes but it turns a smart phone into a paper weight. A very expensive one. I can do better with a lesser battery life
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badrsj said:
Hello. My mate 8 keeps killing apps. Realistically this happens when the apps do not get started on start up at all or the all clear button is used for running apps and these apps to not get re started. I have looked at the permissions they have been given auto run permissions they have been given run in the background permissions they have been given battery optimization excuse meaning they're allowed to run no matter what the battery. They have also been given data usage permissions. Essentially these are apps such as the Tasker the locale app things that automate phone
If someone knows an automation app that is not murdered by this phone I'll just change apps
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badrsj said:
Yes but it turns a smart phone into a paper weight. A very expensive one. I can do better with a lesser battery life
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I notice the same. It was worse in NXT-L29C636B103 but seems to be better in NXT-L29C636B180 but some of my essential apps that work with automation like Situations and Silence Premium are not working properly at all.... need to find out how, all these apps I am talking about are already in "Protected Apps" and in "Ignore Battery Optimzations". That means, don't touch them and let them run its course because it needs to... and I command it so...
But internally, either EMUI 4 or Marshmallow 6 is ignoring these "whitelist" that they themselves implemented. I'm running debug logs with one of the developers of the apps I am having problems with... and he noticed instead of not touching the application, it is being "killed" and "restarted" all the time. Nooooo!!!
It is a nice feature for battery life.... but if you kill essential apps that the user has told you to not touch, then, that is way #[email protected]*!?*&
Additionally to the ignore optimizations, and Protected Apps in Battery Manager..
If you go to Settings -> Apps, then go into specific app you want..tap Battery...and you have options
- App Auto-Launch
- Keep running after screen off
dj69holland said:
Additionally to the ignore optimizations, and Protected Apps in Battery Manager..
If you go to Settings -> Apps, then go into specific app you want..tap Battery...and you have options
- App Auto-Launch
- Keep running after screen off
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Each firmware version must be different? I only have Keep Awake... is on. I have no App Auto Start option???
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childoftheworld said:
Each firmware version must be different? I only have Keep Awake... is on. I have no App Auto Start option???
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- What firmware version are you using? and is it full stock or one compiled by a dev?
- What app or apps are you having a problem with?
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dj69holland said:
- What firmware version are you using? and is it full stock or one compiled by a dev?
- What app or apps are you having a problem with?
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EMUI 4.0, NXT-L29C636B180, Stock F/W
Applications as follows:
Silence Premium
Situations
Ringo Pro
ReadIt To Me
any solution for this ? it's killing me ! my life is ruined because it's killing my alarm clock Xtreme.
EMUI 4.1, B320
L29
Same for me with my Bike applications !!
Grrr every 90 min average the apps is killed and i lose all my personal stat ! GRRRRR
Need help or I will kill this phone !!
Thanks
Same here with most important app like Facebook and Facebook Messenger
I get the solution from digging on web
Press the home hot key.press the options hot key(the one with three horizontal lines)task manager list will be opened will all the minimized appsjust SWIPE DOWN on the app you wanted to run in backgroundNow A lock symbol will be displayed on the app,which means that app is locked from killing by task manager.i.e your app will now run in background even after killing all the tasks in task manager.To reverse it(to unlock it or to prevent running it in background) press the home,then options hot key.. Now swipe that app UP..that lock symbol will be gone and you can kill it with task manager.
try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/help/kill-apk-t3492520
Install the apps you want running as a system app. They wont be killed.
xT29c said:
Install the apps you want running as a system app. They wont be killed.
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Previous solution provided dont work for me.
Apps is still killed after average 90 or 120 Minutes
What is the best way to install the apps as a system app ?
Thanks
Try this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72374887&postcount=9
update: no, it does not work
already done and not working for me :/
Anyone with a solution for this??

Remove Cyanogenmod apps like Camera, Browser and Screencast?

I'm exactly the opposite of most people that actually want CM apps, I'd like to remove them, I really like Moto's stock camera instead of "Camera", and Chrome instead of "Browser", and see no point in "Screencast", would it be possible to remove them?
Also, is it possible to remove Hangouts? I downloaded Opengapps Mini because it suited me best, but the only app I'd like to remove from it would be hangouts, would it be possible?
Thanks
System App Remover
OR
Link2SD
ajinkya.nazare said:
System App Remover
OR
Link2SD
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Thank you so much that did the job!
Use Titanium Backup app for freezing or even uninstalling the system apps

Backround app problem.HELP

I have an Honor 8,chinese version FRD-AL00.(rooted)
The problem is everytime i clear the memory the phone kills the app completely. Ex- the app "messenger" or "whats app" , if i clear them from memory (clear ram on multitask window) i no longer recieve notifications.I have to always leave them opened on the backround.I also tried removing them from battery optimization and it didnt work.
TSS.0 said:
I have an Honor 8,chinese version FRD-AL00.(rooted)
The problem is everytime i clear the memory the phone kills the app completely. Ex- the app "messenger" or "whats app" , if i clear them from memory (clear ram on multitask window) i no longer recieve notifications.I have to always leave them opened on the backround.I also tried removing them from battery optimization and it didnt work.
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Just lock the app on recent apps windows (a little lock sign on upper right corner with x sign). every time you cleaning apps don't swipe that app you don't want kill.
atifnoor1122 said:
Just lock the app on recent apps windows (a little lock sign on upper right corner with x sign). every time you cleaning apps don't swipe that app you don't want kill.
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yeah thats what im actually doing.But i thought maybe someone new a permanent solution for the problem.Or what causes it in the first place.Thank you anyway.
apps killed in the background
TSS.0 said:
I have an Honor 8,chinese version FRD-AL00.(rooted)
The problem is everytime i clear the memory the phone kills the app completely. Ex- the app "messenger" or "whats app" , if i clear them from memory (clear ram on multitask window) i no longer recieve notifications.I have to always leave them opened on the backround.I also tried removing them from battery optimization and it didnt work.
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Man, I am living with this problem for more than half a year. I did find a somewhat tolerable solution - it is not exactly elegant but it might prove helpful. So yes, after playing with every possible parameter in settings , I also came to the conclusion that nothing really helps except keeping these apps minimized in the background. So I decided to just find a way to hide these minimized apps from the "recent apps" so that these don't interfere with my other activity.
Finally, I managed to find one humble app which does exactly that (you won't be able to find it by the name in Google Play, hence I provide the link).
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=comapede.app.versteckeapp
The instructions might not be exactly clear - you have to install the app then access the widgets from your home screen, identify the Hide App widget and drag it on the home screen. At this point you will be presented with the list of all apps on your device and you would need to chose the app you want to hide. After doing so, a widget for this specific app would be created (which looks identically to the app icon but works differently). First, make sure you discard the respective app from the recent apps, then, to enable hiding, every time you launch the app, you need to do it from the created widget (not from the icon). Obviously, you can repeat the action for all other apps you need to hide.
This worked reliably with Nova Launcher on Android 7 (EMUI 5.0) and continues to work after updating to Android 8 (EMUI 8.0). I also have Chinese ROM (not rooted).
As for the reason why this happens - I have no clue. I don't exclude that it is a software bug that is quite rare on honor 8 devices (otherwise I would see more people complaining).
There is an interesting aspect though - while I have been using my FB messenger for a while like this (this was the only way it worked), now I am able to access the app from its native icon and discard it from the recent apps and it still receives messages instantaneously (same about Skype, Viber). (I don't remember if this is related to the update). Yet for other apps, like KinScreen, Light Flow, ACR (Automatic Call Recorder) and many others, if I run the apps from their icons, the moment I discard them from recent apps, they are shut down completely.
Hopefully this works out for your
Axel I said:
Man, I am living with this problem for more than half a year. I did find a somewhat tolerable solution - it is not exactly elegant but it might prove helpful. So yes, after playing with every possible parameter in settings , I also came to the conclusion that nothing really helps except keeping these apps minimized in the background. So I decided to just find a way to hide these minimized apps from the "recent apps" so that these don't interfere with my other activity.
Finally, I managed to find one humble app which does exactly that (you won't be able to find it by the name in Google Play, hence I provide the link).
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=comapede.app.versteckeapp
The instructions might not be exactly clear - you have to install the app then access the widgets from your home screen, identify the Hide App widget and drag it on the home screen. At this point you will be presented with the list of all apps on your device and you would need to chose the app you want to hide. After doing so, a widget for this specific app would be created (which looks identically to the app icon but works differently). First, make sure you discard the respective app from the recent apps, then, to enable hiding, every time you launch the app, you need to do it from the created widget (not from the icon). Obviously, you can repeat the action for all other apps you need to hide.
This worked reliably with Nova Launcher on Android 7 (EMUI 5.0) and continues to work after updating to Android 8 (EMUI 8.0). I also have Chinese ROM (not rooted).
As for the reason why this happens - I have no clue. I don't exclude that it is a software bug that is quite rare on honor 8 devices (otherwise I would see more people complaining).
There is an interesting aspect though - while I have been using my FB messenger for a while like this (this was the only way it worked), now I am able to access the app from its native icon and discard it from the recent apps and it still receives messages instantaneously (same about Skype, Viber). (I don't remember if this is related to the update). Yet for other apps, like KinScreen, Light Flow, ACR (Automatic Call Recorder) and many others, if I run the apps from their icons, the moment I discard them from recent apps, they are shut down completely.
Hopefully this works out for your
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Thank you.Ill try the app or keep them locked on multitask.The most important reason i asked is because i applied for a job and they had sent me an email for an interview.I missed it cuz i hadnt opened gmail.I couldnt care less for games or any other entertaining apps but when it comes to work or more serious stuff then it becomes a problem.Thanks again.
TSS.0 said:
Thank you.Ill try the app or keep them locked on multitask.The most important reason i asked is because i applied for a job and they had sent me an email for an interview.I missed it cuz i hadnt opened gmail.I couldnt care less for games or any other entertaining apps but when it comes to work or more serious stuff then it becomes a problem.Thanks again.
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Yes, this can be really frustrating. For me it has been a series of missed Skype calls, which I happened to discover even after more than a week.

Apps get killed/refreshed

guys, I have an issue here
mine is 6GB ram of 7 Pro
I open only two apps in background, when I switch to another app, the app just refreshed, meaning it was killed, why is that so?
Now I can't multitask because I can barely open few apps and keep it running in background
I'm on latest open beta 1 though
Even when I'm on stable OxygenOS I feel the same issue, anyone ?
Go to settings, developer option and running services
My system shows 3.6GB to around 4GB usage, so much ?
Ben Ling said:
guys, I have an issue here
mine is 6GB ram of 7 Pro
I open only two apps in background, when I switch to another app, the app just refreshed, meaning it was killed, why is that so?
Now I can't multitask because I can barely open few apps and keep it running in background
I'm on latest open beta 1 though
Even when I'm on stable OxygenOS I feel the same issue, anyone ?
Go to settings, developer option and running services
My system shows 3.6GB to around 4GB usage, so much ?
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Set the apps you want running to don't optimize.
Are you on Android Q?
Because there you have to give it some time to adapt to your usage pattern, so that it will make sure your apps are loaded when you usually use them. Worked good for me after a few days.
If you still want to turn off battery optimization:
1. Disable advanced optimization under battery settings.
2. Set your apps to "Don't optimize" in the battery settings.
3. Lock them in the recents menu.
tropical cactus said:
Set the apps you want running to don't optimize.
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hmm does not seem to work
Zocker1304 said:
Are you on Android Q?
Because there you have to give it some time to adapt to your usage pattern, so that it will make sure your apps are loaded when you usually use them. Worked good for me after a few days.
If you still want to turn off battery optimization:
1. Disable advanced optimization under battery settings.
2. Set your apps to "Don't optimize" in the battery settings.
3. Lock them in the recents menu.
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Yes I am on Android 10 latest Beta. Even when Im on stable Pie, same issue...
App will just get refreshed ,the app actually refreshed, meaning the app didnt go back to home page of the app but it refreshes that page, if I have some typings saved there, it refreshes and will not be saved...
Ben Ling said:
hmm does not seem to work
Yes I am on Android 10 latest Beta. Even when Im on stable Pie, same issue...
App will just get refreshed ,the app actually refreshed, meaning the app didnt go back to home page of the app but it refreshes that page, if I have some typings saved there, it refreshes and will not be saved...
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Hmmm that's weird, it does that Everytime? Maybe try a clean install and see if the issue persists if you have no other plans.
Zocker1304 said:
Hmmm that's weird, it does that Everytime? Maybe try a clean install and see if the issue persists if you have no other plans.
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Tried a full factory reset, same issue though, the app won't just keep in background and will be refreshed when I go back to the app I opened, background only few apps like FB Whatsapp IG etc
But I'm sure this is software issue and I wonder if anyone facing such problem ?
I have the same issue with my 6GB Varient.
Ben Ling said:
Tried a full factory reset, same issue though, the app won't just keep in background and will be refreshed when I go back to the app I opened, background only few apps like FB Whatsapp IG etc
But I'm sure this is software issue and I wonder if anyone facing such problem ?
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https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...ul-background-processes-to-save-battery-life/
Seen some hinting that adaptive battery might kill off some apps. Try disabling that
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Guys, I think I found the problem that causes this issue
I tried changing resolution from QHD to FHD and now my apps will stay in background. Tested few rounds and indeed QHD res will kill apps easily even few apps only but FHD can maintain many apps in background
But why though ?
I
Ben Ling said:
Guys, I think I found the problem that causes this issue
I tried changing resolution from QHD to FHD and now my apps will stay in background. Tested few rounds and indeed QHD res will kill apps easily even few apps only but FHD can maintain many apps in background
But why though ?
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Interesting. Testing now.
Found this. So far so good: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-notification-fix-works-100.3865551/post-79011366

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