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Dual Sim and Single Sim

I have a Canadian X Play, and while taking my sim out, noticed it said Sim 1. Thought it odd, so looked at the other spot. It looked like a dummy plate, so I peeled it off, and voila. It says Sim 2. Taking a quick peek inside the slot looks like it has the pins that would make contact with a second sim. I put my Sim in slot two, but it didn't pick it up. Not sure if you need to have a Sim in both slots, or maybe if it's enabled in software. I don't have a second nano sim to test. It looks like the hardware is all there. Once we get some factory images up, and some devs, it'd be interesting to see if these are all just the same device with a different tray and software.

Maybe it is disabled in software. Like a single sim build flashed.
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From what I know there's three current versions of the Moto X Play.
Canadian, Europe/UK and Nordic.
The Canadian and UK ones do not have two radios, but the Nordic one does, and that one supports Dual-Sim.
The Canadian and UK ones probably still have the pins for the sim card slot though.
I'm getting my Dual-Sim one in a couple of hours, we can try and find out if there's any differences?

Makes sense about the dual radios. I was silently hoping it was simple lol.

What makes me a bit sad, is that I have to choose between using two sim cards, or one sim and one SD card

TheDeadCPU said:
What makes me a bit sad, is that I have to choose between using two sim cards, or one sim and one SD card
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I don't understand what you mean.
I have a dual sim model (XT1562) and don't have to make the choices you state. I'm using 2 SIM cards and a microSD card.

henrooo said:
I don't understand what you mean.
I have a dual sim model (XT1562) and don't have to make the choices you state. I'm using 2 SIM cards and a microSD card.
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I thought the SD card was also where the second sim would be, now that I actually have the device in my hand I see that it is not so

henrooo said:
I don't understand what you mean.
I have a dual sim model (XT1562) and don't have to make the choices you state. I'm using 2 SIM cards and a microSD card.
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But does your phone have the LTE band 20 (800 Mhz)?

ludovicien said:
But does your phone have the LTE band 20 (800 Mhz)?
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Yes it does:
4G LTE (1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 19, 20, 28, 38, 40,​ 41)

Ah now that's tempting. I'm getting bored waiting for the Honor 7 and I can get a dual-sim Play down the road from my local equivalent of Currys (if that still exists).

ludovicien said:
Ah now that's tempting. I'm getting bored waiting for the Honor 7 and I can get a dual-sim Play down the road from my local equivalent of Currys (if that still exists).
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Yes, Currys still exists
I'm impressed with the phone. I'm not a heavy user, but the battery life is very good. Especially after using a Nexus 4 for the past 2 yrs.
Even with both SIMs on, I'm getting 42-50 hrs of battery life and approx' 6:30 hrs screen on time. I'm sure I can get even more with only one SIM on.

I had a nexus 4 and battery life was pretty bad. However I struggle with battery life on all my android phones. I see people with 6 hours screen on with other devices and have no idea how even with kernel tuning I don't get near that. My Voda Smart Ultra 6 I occasionally got 5 hours screen in but then some days I got only 2 and a half. Nothing significant showing in usage either...
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Which model is dual SIM? XT1562 or XT1563 or another model?

From gsmarena the XT1562 is European model (?) comes only with SS (single Sim) and has less LTE bands while XT1563 comes in both SS & DS (dual SIM) and has more LTE bands - AWS for one which is 1700/2100. I just looked this up from website so there might be more variations worldwide but if you are in NA (North America) I would make sure it's a XT1563 so you have the right bands for LTE. AFAIK the carriers in Canada are all bringing in SS units (XT1563) while the Mexican /Spanish units (also XT1563) are all DS units.
Not exactly a cut & dried answer but I hope it helps you out.
I have been more than happy with mine XT1563 SS but would have got a DS if available for same price & on shelf.
Codename_Falcon said:
Which model is dual SIM? XT1562 or XT1563 or another model?
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I just flashed XT1562_LUX_RETASIA_DS_5.1.1_LPD23.118-12_cid7_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC on my RETEU phone and can confirm that the second sim slot works fine if you take off the cover.

mexican version is dual sim xt1563

ALD76 said:
I just flashed XT1562_LUX_RETASIA_DS_5.1.1_LPD23.118-12_cid7_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC on my RETEU phone and can confirm that the second sim slot works fine if you take off the cover.
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Did you flash that on a European XT1562 or a XT1563? I'm wondering if I should try XT1563_LUX_RETLA_DS_5.1.1_LPD23.118-6.1_cid12_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip on mine.

leomike said:
Did you flash that on a European XT1562 or a XT1563? I'm wondering if I should try XT1563_LUX_RETLA_DS_5.1.1_LPD23.118-6.1_cid12_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip on mine.
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European XT1562.

That's pretty cool that Motorola left things "doable" for us enthusiasts to utilize the second SIM by flashing the right ROM.

I am fairly sure that's just a (wonderful) side effect of technically inept management
I wonder if that affects LTE bands also?

2nd Sim Phone where to buy?

Is Taiwan the only place to buy phone that has hybrid 2nd sim card, which allows either 2nd sim or microsd card?

There are a few regions. Check Xperifirm for model F8332. The regional firmwares listed will tell you which markets have the dual sim version.
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Is the dual US or international version? I want one but want the fingerprint feature without having to go through all the trouble to re flash eur roms

Flashing Eur rom will be 30 minutes job. It will be less of a problem than looking for international version, flashing is pretty straightforward.

Just bought the dual hybrid sim version 64gb forest blue in Dubai,UAE.
Its retailing for $626 for a Premium Launch Pack
Search Sony Jumbo UAE u will find the link
Heres my unboxing video
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junedkaka said:
Just bought the dual hybrid sim version 64gb forest blue in Dubai,UAE.
Its retailing for $626 for a Premium Launch Pack
Search Sony Jumbo UAE u will find the link
Heres my unboxing video
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Do they ship to USA?

Linux4ever85 said:
Do they ship to USA?
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They dont ship to Us. However u can get a friend of urs to buy it and get it shipped through aramex /fedex etc

junedkaka said:
They dont ship to Us. However u can get a friend of urs to buy it and get it shipped through aramex /fedex etc
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I don't have any friend there. Any website out there that ships to USA?

Linux4ever85 said:
I don't have any friend there. Any website out there that ships to USA?
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https://uae.jadopado.com/product/JM00305344/sony-xperia-xz-4g-lte/169681
They do however their price is hign and they dont have the forest blue color in stock

Amazon is selling the dual sim version now.

Yakkosmurf said:
Amazon is selling the dual sim version now.
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The price is kind of high.

Linux4ever85 said:
The price is kind of high.
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$40 US more than the single sim seemed in family given the 64GB storage.

Anyone seen this yet for purchase in the UK from a reputable supplier?

Reliable retailer for 6x 64gb models

Hi all,
Anyone know of a reliable retailer that ship to Europe that sells a grey model with black front and 64gb storage?
If I have 64gb internal storage I would be able to use dual sim rather than filling the second slot with sdcard. But this model is unavailable in Europe as far as I can tell.
Thank you for your help!

The second slot is only 2G

AS per my knowledge, that model will be available only in China. It wont be released anywhere.

siggey said:
The second slot is only 2G
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I am OK with that - second sim is for receiving calls or SMS on my roaming sim.
vsriram92 said:
AS per my knowledge, that model will be available only in China. It wont be released anywhere.
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That would be a pity. Wonder if it would work outside China, or if its even possible to get from there.
I read somewhere that the 4gb model may be released internationally in March which might include the 64gb storage version.
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drakenabarion said:
That would be a pity. Wonder if it would work outside China, or if its even possible to get from there.
I read somewhere that the 4gb model may be released internationally in March which might include the 64gb storage version.
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I don't think 64gb variant will be released. However if the bands in your country matches with the supported band by that variant, you can buy it.
Also remember that the devs for this variant will be available only in Chinese forums.

Get a freight forwarder adderss?

Thanks all for your replies!
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vsriram92 said:
AS per my knowledge, that model will be available only in China. It wont be released anywhere.
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Yeah, the 64GB variant of the Honor 8 was never released in the west either.

Difference between the 2 Amazon variants?

There are 2 models:
I think the international is MHA-L29
The other doesn't show model, but looks like it's the US model.
What's the difference?
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L29 is dual sim
L09 is single sim
Only difference on Amazon is US warranty
Even the Chinese models work here. It's just if you need it repaired for some reason

sledgie said:
L29 is dual sim
L09 is single sim
Only difference on Amazon is US warranty
Even the Chinese models work here. It's just if you need it repaired for some reason
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Thank you!
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Possible to get Global version for use on US Carriers?

hi i'm still running an M8 but the U11 looks like finally the phone that will trigger me to upgrade. I'm confused about how the US versions will be getting 4GB RAM 64GB storage, while the international versions will get 6GB RAM 128GB storage.
Anyone know if it's possible to get the international version to work on US Carrier? I'm on AT&T.
Thanks
excited to see how the edge sensitivity stuff works out

grafik2 said:
hi i'm still running an M8 but the U11 looks like finally the phone that will trigger me to upgrade. I'm confused about how the US versions will be getting 4GB RAM 64GB storage, while the international versions will get 6GB RAM 128GB storage.
Anyone know if it's possible to get the international version to work on US Carrier? I'm on AT&T.
Thanks
excited to see how the edge sensitivity stuff works out
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Wrong information mate. All countries will get the same 4GB RAM/64GB internal configuration. Only difference are Taiwan and China were HTC will ship an 6GB RAM/128GB internal version as well. If your not running dual SIM the 64GB variant would suffice I think. But if you really want the larger storage you'd have to import it. Don't know if all US bands are present on this asian versions and if it'll run on AT&T though.
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Gotcha. Well thanks for the info. I won't need dual SIM and use an SD card so I was really just interested in getting 25% more RAM if it wasn't hard to get an international version.

grafik2 said:
Gotcha. Well thanks for the info. I won't need dual SIM and use an SD card so I was really just interested in getting 25% more RAM if it wasn't hard to get an international version.
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Not necessary to have those extra juice. Didn't make a lot in terms of performance on such a phone. Especially as long as it is driven by such an SoC and very well done software optimization.
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should be fine with sd835 and 4 gb

Watch out for the dual sim variants. They don't have all the US bands.

I was kinda bummed about this too, but at least we have an SD card slot and HTC doesn't bloat the hell out of their phones with crap like "Touchwiz" so I think it wouldn't make much difference.

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Wrong information mate. All countries will get the same 4GB RAM/64GB internal configuration. Only difference are Taiwan and China were HTC will ship an 6GB RAM/128GB internal version as well. If your not running dual SIM the 64GB variant would suffice I think. But if you really want the larger storage you'd have to import it. Don't know if all US bands are present on this asian versions and if it'll run on AT&T though.
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Wait, but there's five MIDs, two of which are dual-SIM. So how can "all countries be getting the same 4/64 config"?

Kisakuku said:
Wait, but there's five MIDs, two of which are dual-SIM. So how can "all countries be getting the same 4/64 config"?
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Yeah I know bit MID isn't directly tied to storage options. And as far as I know EMEA and US and others are getting 4GB/64GB, while Aisa is the only region getting 6GB/128GB.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Yeah I know bit MID isn't directly tied to storage options. And as far as I know EMEA and US and others are getting 4GB/64GB, while Aisa is the only region getting 6GB/128GB.
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Right, I just wanted to make sure that by "the same 4/64 config" you didn't mean all 4/64 devices have the same MID )
Also, @hamdir reported ME is getting 6/128.

fr0st420 said:
Watch out for the dual sim variants. They don't have all the US bands.
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Can you please elaborate, or tell me where I can find out more on this? I need a dual sim device and I'm AT&T. Thanks!

XATAGuy said:
Can you please elaborate, or tell me where I can find out more on this? I need a dual sim device and I'm AT&T. Thanks!
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You'd have to import one from China / Taiwan / Europe / Middle East or buy a gray market device on Ebay, etc.