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DO NOT trust Paypal, read my experience

I decided to write this review to warn others from dealing with paypal, they have charged me before completing the registration process, and after charging me they have asked for me to fax them extra documents that I don't have, I told them that I don't have that documents, and I asked them to find an alternative way, they replied stupidly asking the same question, I called them and wasted my money on international calls, every one of their rude employees gave me different answers. at the end I asked them to close my account, they refused, they said that the cannot close the account neither they can activate it if I don't send them the faxed papers. Simply they are either stupid or they were stealing me. I still couldn’t get my money back, but I had to cancel my credit card because they had a continuous access on it, and that cost me allot also. There should be a law to watch such companies...
You watch your money, and don't trust those companies that call themselves as a company for your own security; it is a company that will have a full access to your credit card... I lost much with my registration trial with Paypal (www.paypal.com) be careful from this company.

Not my experience. I had to fax them papers on my credit card, if I remember correctly. But that wasn't a problem after that. I think it was a bank statement. I use PayPal almost every week to buy from eBay.

perhaps its because you live in what is considered quite a dodgy country by many others?
all ive had to do with paypal, and ive been using them for years, is enter my card and bank details online, they performed a chargeback on my account of $1 and i had to enter the reference that showed on my bank statement

Paypal has always worked very well for me. From what I remember, I gave them my bank account information and then they made three small deposits. To verify, I had to let them know the amounts of those three deposits. Now, 100's of transactions later, I am a veteran and still highly satisfied. Sorry you had an unfavorable experience.

Ok... Maybe you had some good experience there, but I advice you all to have a look on this site (www.nopaypal.com) and also you may search Google for other peoples reviews on this issue... in the site I gave here, you will find too many stories that are simillar to mine..
they also say that with paypal things goes fine until you face a small silly problem, then you start to suffer, one of them says, that he sold an item for a specific amount of money and after he recieved the payment to paypal they have limited his account and he cannot get him money from them until now !!
read and see how they deal with people,
if you think that they read those fax papers then you are mistaken, someone says that he faked the papers and faxed them and things went fine, where is the security in that? you can steal a card number and fake the fax paper, the more secure way was the $1.95 decuction and verifying it by the 4 pin number, I did that but they didn't satisfy with it, they are like machines, they Don't have minds to use and think, when I be honest with them and tell them that I don't have such a paper, they reply saying: "we are still waiting for the fax" like robots....
the main problem there is that they are not trained to handle problems, when you have a problem then you are stuck there....
one more important issue that i have mentioned: how come they have charged me before verifying my card, they claim that they limited my account because they cannot verify my account, then what if I stole that card, why did they charge the real owner then? they should have asked for all of the papers they needed then they could start charging, that is really silly, common people search google and have a look on www.nopaypal.com, there are books talking about paypal's cheating, you can read everyday a new story there... if you had a good experience with them then this is not meaning that they are good, it is just you are lucky that you didn't face any problem yet!

Okay, let's get real here.
What documents would they ask for that a card owner wouldn't have? Why don't you have the documents?
The domain name, NoPaypal.com, was registered back in 2001 in order to drum up support for a class action lawsuit. Yep, that person had a bad experience when Paypal was new. The "Bash Paypal Bandwagon" was in full force several years ago. You are a little late.
If I stopped using every service/vendor that someone had a bad experience with, I'd have to stop using everything.
If I go to a restaurant that sucks, I don't go back. Don't run around like chicken little yelling "the sky is falling".

they wanted either a water bill or electricity bill in my name, well my card is not issued from the same country that I am currently living in, I was living there once, but even at that time I was renting a home so the bills were not in my name, and I have no other document to send them in my name, so this is realistic, if you don't like to believe that they are theievs then you are free, keep dealing with them , everyone is free in this life, I just liked to warn the other people and give an advice, so take my advice or leave it, but don't regret later!!

EMU said:
they wanted either a water bill or electricity bill in my name, well my card is not issued from the same country that I am currently living in, I was living there once, but even at that time I was renting a home so the bills were not in my name, and I have no other document to send them in my name
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so you have a bank in a country were you dont live, no way you can confirm your current and previous addresses and you are complaining that paypal wont deal with you!!!!!
good! im glad paypal wont deal with you, if you were to rip me off, what could i do about it? i couldnt find out where you live or where you bank.
wake up, smell the coffee, get yourself a bank and a real address that you own and pay your way in, then maybe, just maybe youll have some financial credibility
jeesh!
dont tell me... you are nigerian and you have $1 200 419 that you need to invest, but your governmnt charges too much tax.........................
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you people thing yourself something?? huh..
work your mind a little bit, I dont have to give you all the details, dump yourself and deal whoever you like to, I just wrote my experience, and as I said before you are free to get the advice or leave it,
are you working for paypal guys? you appear to be from UK? by the way I am not nigerean and I do not care about you or the companies in your country, if you want to realy talk about ropping people, then read carefully my story and see how paypal took the money before even getting the fax, then what if really I was ropping someone's card? why did they charge him before getting sure? I was ropped by paypal and didn't get my money back yet.... maybe you cannot think wide.. it is your problem, that is why in your country we always hear such stories, but thanks God we don't have much like those stories from local companies, you even didn't use your mind to look at the flag near my name and your wide imagination lead you to nigeria, cool
for your information, my bank is now handling the case with this stupid paypal company, I respect my bank and I am very happy of their fast reaction against what paypal did, I wont be posting any further details about this topic in this forum cuz it looks like the people here are to fight not to get advices and advice others, you could have read it and either propose me a solution for my problem like someone who did in other forum, or you could just close that page, but you prefer to defend paypal, they probably from your way of defending, you are one of them !
Good luck for the good people..

the reference to nigeria was a joke, the clue was in the monetary amount, for someone so concerned about scams, im surprised youve never heard of the "nigerian 419" scam
google it
btw, i know what country your flag is from, i said as much in my first reply when i politely commented on the fact that many businesses in the world may not trust doing business with people from that country, hence the requests for additional verification of who you are.
the fact that you bank in another country and have no id relating to where you live really makes it of no surprise that they dont want to deal with you.
they charged US$1.95....... not exactly fraud of the century is it?

after sending one item paypal says..international shipment
We are sorry for the delay in transferring the money that was paid by Katrina Baral into your PayPal account. We hereby inform you that the money that we are ordered to transfer into your PayPal account (€180.00 EUR) is too Small for us to transfer into your PayPal account due to International Transfer Limit from our PayPal Transfer Department Unit and the new Policy of our PayPal. So the real amount that can reach your account from our PayPal Transfer Desk start from €400.00 EUR upward. we contacted Katrina Baral about this situation to make an additional payment of €220.00 EUR into your PayPal account.
We are happy to tell you that Katrina Baral have made an additional payment of €220.00 EUR into your PayPal account which is already deducted from the buyer account. It's already confirmed and approved by us which means the total amount of €400.00 EUR is approved and it is ready to be credited into your PayPal account TODAY. So we think we can sort the problem out by you sending the Excess Fund. Katrina Baral ask us to tell you to help him send the excess fund of €200.00 EUR to his daughter and use the extra €20.00 EUR for the western union charges and for your transportation.
You are advised now to go to any western union Outlet/Office and send the excess fund of €200.00 EUR to his daughter and get back to us with the western union details so we can verify and get your account credited without any further delay.

Market & CC Misuse ??

Hello all,
In case this is misplaced here, my excuses, @Moderator: please move this to the appropriate forum.
I am new to the Android mobile phone world. Have purchased a new phone just lately and placed two purchases in the 'market' application. For this I am expected to inform my CC information to Google, which I did, expecting that Google was a place I am safe to place my data.
I just got a call from my bank requiring confirmation about internet payments from my CC, one small of 'less then 2 dollars' and then immediately a big one for services I have nothing to do with. I am very glad that the bank found out in time and I did not lose any money.
But I am now very afraid that the information of my CC got to these 'crooks' through 'market'. Anyone else has this experience ?
I am now left with the question how to purchase software for this phone.
I only know about 'market' which I obviously start to mistrust now.
Where can I purchase software or how is there a better way to pay for the software in market. In my phone I got only the CC variant proposed as payment.
regards and thanks for any help here,
Ruud

The Market uses Google Checkout, which means Google handles the transactions - the seller of the app is never given your credit card details (and any purchases through checkout should show up as "GOOGLE <seller name>" on your statement)

Hi Benjymous,
the sales are shown as Google. The lady from my bank confirmed these and I told her to let these transaction live without question, I really did purchase the software. The transactions which came today are not showing Google, these are 'crooked'.
I just started wondering that this fraud happened so shortly after I placed my orders with Google.
If nobody else had this experience, I will feel confident in placing my orders with my new CC after it arrives.
best regards,
Ruud

You could also, what i did, use a prepaid 'credit' card.

That IS an idea !
But I have to confess I do not know where to get these in Russia, will need a it of "asking around'.
Thanks for the feedback.

Android Market

Ok, so the problem I'm having is that EVERY SINGLE TIME I try to buy an app that's not in the USA, my bank blocks the transaction because it's foreign. As the majority of the apps I'm interested in are European, this presents a MAJOR problem. Why is it so hard to buy apps, and why hasn't Google thought of a solution to this by now? On the ios appstore, I've never had a transaction blocked even once.
Is there a solution to this? Apparently my bank isn't willing to do some sort of "If it's under $10, we'll allow the transaction regardless" agreement. -_-

Athenon87 said:
Ok, so the problem I'm having is that EVERY SINGLE TIME I try to buy an app that's not in the USA, my bank blocks the transaction because it's foreign. As the majority of the apps I'm interested in are European, this presents a MAJOR problem. Why is it so hard to buy apps, and why hasn't Google thought of a solution to this by now? On the ios appstore, I've never had a transaction blocked even once.
Is there a solution to this? Apparently my bank isn't willing to do some sort of "If it's under $10, we'll allow the transaction regardless" agreement. -_-
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The problem is with your bank, get foreign transactions authorised.

until you get the problem sorted why not use applanet? Then when the problem is sorted you can just buy them from the market

xaccers said:
The problem is with your bank, get foreign transactions authorised.
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He is right...and it is a very simple phone call to your bank. When I say simple, I mean a maze of queues that never end and when you finally get to talk to a real human, they need to transfer you. But once you get to the right person, simple.

Buddyfunlove said:
He is right...and it is a very simple phone call to your bank. When I say simple, I mean a maze of queues that never end and when you finally get to talk to a real human, they need to transfer you. But once you get to the right person, simple.
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Y'alls banks must be great because, as I have already said, my bank won't do something like that. I've asked and suggested, and nothing.

Athenon87 said:
Y'alls banks must be great because, as I have already said, my bank won't do something like that. I've asked and suggested, and nothing.
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They won't allow you to make international purchases at all? What if you went on holiday?
Time to change banks.

xaccers said:
They won't allow you to make international purchases at all? What if you went on holiday?
Time to change banks.
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Well, they have "traveling mode", but that just unblocks everything and basically opens you up to all sorts of fraud.
Two things seem extremely stupid to me:
1) Google doesn't centralize payments -- this would eliminate the problem altogether. Apple does this, so Google should be able to as well. It's not like this is a 3rd-party market.
2) My bank doesn't have some sort of "under $5" note that they can put on my account to allow any small-amount foreign transactions with no problem. If I had to travel and didn't have time to notify my bank, I'd be completely screwed whenever I got to my destination.

Athenon87 said:
Well, they have "traveling mode", but that just unblocks everything and basically opens you up to all sorts of fraud.
Two things seem extremely stupid to me:
1) Google doesn't centralize payments -- this would eliminate the problem altogether. Apple does this, so Google should be able to as well. It's not like this is a 3rd-party market.
2) My bank doesn't have some sort of "under $5" note that they can put on my account to allow any small-amount foreign transactions with no problem. If I had to travel and didn't have time to notify my bank, I'd be completely screwed whenever I got to my destination.
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I can find loads of posts relating to restrictions on apple's appstore, where people aren't actually able to buy apps from other countries, even if they're both in Europe.
Don't you have fraud protection?
If I noticed that there was a dubious transaction on my account I'm able to call the bank and have them investigate.
Chances are they'll phone me up regarding it as soon as it happens (had that the first time I bought a € app from the appstore), and if it's fraud and I hadn't been irresponsible with my pin number, they'll refund the money.

What about using prepay CC ?
I can get prepay CC $10,$20,.... etc. at my PostOffice and use that.

Why is my Google Credit payment method declined?

I was trying to purchase game. Cytus to be exact. It's a cool music game and I wanted the full version for lyk $2. Now here's my problem. I have to use my debit/credit card to purchase it. My Google Play Credit has been declined. Or at least that's what it says when I try to purchase the game. It's just this game I'm seeing it with too.
I'm guessing the developer has blocked that payment method. If this is true, then what's the point of Google Play Cards if developers can block that form of payment?
Granted, I'll buy the game later this week. It's just it was bill paying week for me last week, so this college kid don't have an extra $2. That's lunch money. LoL!!
But that's all. I want to know why a developer would block Google Credit as a form of payment... Should I upload a picture?

Here's an image of my Google Credit being declined. If this is possible, then this will render Google Play Cards useless.
Thing's I've checked:
1) Made sure it was under my primary email address since I have multiple email addresses
2)Checked to see if it was the credit itself, but I can use my Google Credit to purchase other apps.

Bump. I am running into the exact same issue. I can't figure out for the life of me why it has crapped out.

The OP already stated why it was happening. Developers on the Play Store have the option to decline certain types of payments - one of which is the Google Credits. I guess there must be a reason for it - maybe a Google Credit isn't actually worth a full Dollar to the developer due to transaction fees or something?

No_Nickname90 said:
I'm guessing the developer has blocked that payment method. If this is true, then what's the point of Google Play Cards if developers can block that form of payment?
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SimonTS said:
The OP already stated why it was happening. Developers on the Play Store have the option to decline certain types of payments - one of which is the Google Credits.
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At no point did the OP definitively state why it was happening. He/she merely guessed at why it is happening. I'm trying to find if there's an actual reason so we can see if it can be solved or not.
Anyways, a guy on reddit was talking about his app and I was trying to buy it. Ran into the same error message. I asked him if he knew why it was happening and this is his response:
"Thanks for the feedback, as far as I read it's because Google just support multiple currencies for developers based in some countries, it doesn't support for my country yet, that makes impossible to people pay with carriers and with gift cards ... Hope they fix it soon !"
So maybe this only happens when the app's dev team is based out of certain countries that Google hasn't established all of its services/support yet. I looked the dev up on Facebook and he's in Barcelona, Spain, FWIW. It's still a guess but hey at least we have some more info.

[Q] Google play isn't in my country why?

First of all I'm new here and sorry if i'm posting in wrong spot, now second:
i'm kind of angry about google, because they are not supporting paid apps and stuff like movies music and books in my country and i don't get why
like a year ago, we got official support from paypal, so now we can create accounts and actively pay with it, but google is so dumb that i can't even download app for paypal, i can't download anything that has in app purchases or has price. in past, yes we couldn't really pay for anything on google play but now we can with paypal and it dissapoints me, why they are not letting us buy things? (sorry for english i'm georgian)

Google needs to get approval from a country's government, media authority, copyright organisation and register with the chamber of commerce in every single country individually.
And in every single country, someone always objects. Usually a group of retail shops that sell the same product.
This isn't Google holding out on you. It's your own country doing so.
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