Sms messages shredder app? - Security Discussion

Hi guys
Is there any app to securely wipe and shred sms messages from android smartphones?
I've tried andro shredder and ishredder, but without any success, after using them, I can easily recover sms by using Dr.Fone Data Recovery or undeleter.
Regards

I guess it would really depend on how much you want "shredded". If you're using a normal sms/mms messaging app - delete all the messages & make sure you don't have them "archived" or backed up (I.e. with an app such as SMS Backup +) anywhere. Also make sure you've never saved them to your SIM card (most likely NO since that hasn't been a normal practice for over 10 years now).
But... You'll never really destroy all the messages since your cell provider has a record of them all.
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urmitnick said:
Hi guys
Is there any app to securely wipe and shred sms messages from android smartphones?
I've tried andro shredder and ishredder, but without any success, after using them, I can easily recover sms by using Dr.Fone Data Recovery or undeleter.
Regards
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If your that worried about your msg you should not be using normal sms. lf someone has physical access to your phone they can get anything one way or another. So that other people can't read them encrypt the files then "delete" them so even if they recover they can't read them.
What about using a "secure" msg app? Signal, Telegram etc One you may like is Wire & you don't have to give a phone number, you can even delete the message you have sent from the other persons phone using this app even if you have not set self destruct for that msg

Thank you for your answers. @IronRoo It's sure that using default android messaging app isn't recommended. Personally, I'm using signal. I'm asking inorder to help someone else.
I was thinking to encrypts the whole phone and then flash it with stock rom, sure the files will be recoverable, but encrypted, the problem is that this option is only available in Andorid M & N, and the concerned tablet is running Kitkat!!
So the only trick is as you said, to encrypt the sms/mms db located at :" /data/data/com.android.providers/telephony/databases/mmssms.db", and then delet it. do you know any encryption app with root access?
Regards

urmitnick said:
Thank you for your answers. @IronRoo It's sure that using default android messaging app isn't recommended. Personally, I'm using signal. I'm asking inorder to help someone else.
I was thinking to encrypts the whole phone and then flash it with stock rom, sure the files will be recoverable, but encrypted, the problem is that this option is only available in Andorid M & N, and the concerned tablet is running Kitkat!!
So the only trick is as you said, to encrypt the sms/mms db located at :" /data/data/com.android.providers/telephony/databases/mmssms.db", and then delet it. do you know any encryption app with root access?
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if you encrypt and then flash another ROM you loose that encryption. You can only encrypt after you have flashed those ROM, it's not like Truecrypt or similar.
Sorry I don't know of file encryption apps with root, I've never used file encryption.

IronRoo said:
if you encrypt and then flash another ROM you loose that encryption. You can only encrypt after you have flashed those ROM, it's not like Truecrypt or similar.
Sorry I don't know of file encryption apps with root, I've never used file encryption.
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Sure the encryption will be lost, but the old sms db won't be recoverable!
Thank you for your support

urmitnick said:
Sure the encryption will be lost, but the old sms db won't be recoverable!
Thank you for your support
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:silly: I was forgetting that you just wanted to "erase trace" of your data when I wrote that,

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[Q] Do you have Titanium? Please help me restore Calendar & Calendar Storage.

During attempts to get Google Calendar 5.0 working for all of us on KitKat, I inadvertently deleted "Calendar Storage", aka calendarproviderbin.apk
Could any geniuses out there help me restore this file please? Perhaps you could make a backup of just your app (not data) for:
Calendar
Calendar Storage
...using Titanium Backup and help me access them, so I will be able to restore these. I'd need both so the version numbers are compatible with each other.
You can email me at [email protected] (remove TEETH to contact me!)
As I owned these files already, and am asking for an email rather than anything to be posted here, I am sure this does not breach any sort of rule here.
Thank you in advance!
CJSnet said:
During attempts to get Google Calendar 5.0 working for all of us on KitKat, I inadvertently deleted "Calendar Storage", aka calendarproviderbin.apk
Could any geniuses out there help me restore this file please? Perhaps you could make a backup of just your app (not data) for:
Calendar
Calendar Storage
...using Titanium Backup and help me access them, so I will be able to restore these. I'd need both so the version numbers are compatible with each other.
You can email me at [email protected] (remove TEETH to contact me!)
As I owned these files already, and am asking for an email rather than anything to be posted here, I am sure this does not breach any sort of rule here.
Thank you in advance!
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Flash the system.img from 4.4.4 in fastboot
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Thanks but I wanted to avoid that for a number of unique reasons.
If anyone would be kind enough to quickly go the Titanium route that would be lovely.
Download the factory images then extract the apks you need. Why don't you want to flash system.img?
Flashing the system image only won't wipe you or even lose your apps. It's by far the simplest fix.
Thanks. Can it be done via ROM manager recovery mode?
CJSnet said:
Thanks. Can it be done via ROM manager recovery mode?
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no, why? Don't you have a pc?
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Long story but thank you all.
Calendar 5 is working for me. Did I miss something here? I'm on stock 4.4.4.
No, I was trying to get it working in the past, before anyone did. You are living in the present, which is good!

Recovery Software for root content - /data/data after factory reset?

Hey guys, I've got a problem. I want to restore my com.whatsapp dir in /data/data/, is that possible somehow? Someone had a similar problem back in 2015 and it is said that he could not restore any, but I have software which backed up all videos and photos, but it didn't recover the files I wanted (because you only could choose things like: doc's, pics, movies etc).
Do you guys have an idea, please?
Or do you guys know how to verify whatsapp? I've been using my old number for 5 years now, 2-3 years ago I got a new sim card. Since then, I've always made a backup with titanium or took the backup from whatsapp itself and if you enter ur number and whatsapp recognized a backup, it didn't have to verify anymore. But it's been changed now somehow, they want to verify one's number and then it'll first try backing up (but I do not have that sim anymore). And unfortunately, titanium backup made a corrupt file exactly with the whatsapp file <_<
Thanks in Advance!
WhatsApp doesn't store your media (received images, videos, chat messages, etc.) in the com.whatsapp folder in /data/data, but it stores it in your internal sdcard itself in a folder named WhatsApp. Take that folder with you and put it in the new phone/tablet where you want to continue your WhatsApp usage.
Verification is straight-forward. All you have to do is do a fresh install of WhatsApp on this new phone/tab of yours and start it. If you had placed this backed-up WhatsApp folder on the internal sdcard of the new device, WhatsApp will ask you and automatically import this media on your new device.
Hope that helps.
Hello, thank you for your help.
As I said, I don't want the media, I want the data of whatsapp. I backed up all the media anyway and the recover programs only recovered the media, but I want to recover the whatsapp data.
"WhatsApp will ask you and automatically import this media on your new device."
That is how it used to be, I think they changed their system. You now first have to verify your number and afterwards, you're importing ur whatsapp backup folder. after verifying to another number (not the one I wanted) my old data has been backuped.
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That is how it used to be, I think they changed their system.
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In that case, I don't think its going to be easy to retrieve the old chat contents easily unless you have WhatsApp running on your older device. If you have it running on the older device by any chance, you can refer to this manual and create a Chat Backup to your Google Drive, so that later you can restore it from Google Drive on your new phone/tablet. I suppose this is the only way to create WhatsApp chat backups going forward.
Well, I flashed another rom, so I don't got any possibility to return to that version. That's why I ask for an recovery software which also can recover root files. I didn't think it would be so hard to find, because there are some which recovery plenty of other files, I just needed one which includes /data/data folder AND any files, no matter which ending they have (like *.*, where * is a wildcard for any matches), so I hoped someone of you would know any software?
I just needed one which includes /data/data folder AND any files, no matter which ending they have (like *.*, where * is a wildcard for any matches), so I hoped someone of you would know any software?
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What software did you originally use to take the backup? If it was Titanuium Backup, then what went wrong while restoration?
In case you have the actual file system backup of /data/data/com.whatsapp, you can directly try pasting that folder in the new setup using Root Explorer (or similar app) and see whether it works. But of course, you'll need to be rooted on your new setup.
TehEvil said:
Hey guys, I've got a problem. I want to restore my com.whatsapp dir in /data/data/, is that possible somehow? Someone had a similar problem back in 2015 and it is said that he could not restore any, but I have software which backed up all videos and photos, but it didn't recover the files I wanted (because you only could choose things like: doc's, pics, movies etc).
Do you guys have an idea, please?
Or do you guys know how to verify whatsapp? I've been using my old number for 5 years now, 2-3 years ago I got a new sim card. Since then, I've always made a backup with titanium or took the backup from whatsapp itself and if you enter ur number and whatsapp recognized a backup, it didn't have to verify anymore. But it's been changed now somehow, they want to verify one's number and then it'll first try backing up (but I do not have that sim anymore). And unfortunately, titanium backup made a corrupt file exactly with the whatsapp file <_<
Thanks in Advance!
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Maybe GT recovery is the app you are looking for. Basically this app recovers your lost data even after a hard reset by exploiting some resources in the root directory. By this app you can recover the whole folder of your WhatsApp. Just type in the full directory path in the app.
May this help you.
Unfortunately, the exactly the whatsapp backup is a corrupted .rar file, only has 0.0 kb data... @tiger1487 I got root on my phone, but the problem with GT recovery is, that you need the paid version for using it. But tbh, I'm not willing to pay 15e to try if it eventually could recover my needed data, so I'd ask you, if you know another software which is similar to this one? I can't search for one unfortunately, because if you google for it, you just get some to backup a factory image via cwm or twrp or something :x
TehEvil said:
Unfortunately, the exactly the whatsapp backup is a corrupted .rar file, only has 0.0 kb data... @tiger1487 I got root on my phone, but the problem with GT recovery is, that you need the paid version for using it. But tbh, I'm not willing to pay 15e to try if it eventually could recover my needed data, so I'd ask you, if you know another software which is similar to this one? I can't search for one unfortunately, because if you google for it, you just get some to backup a factory image via cwm or twrp or something :x
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I am a new member so i cant send you the link of the all free GT recovery but i can tell you that just type 'GT recovery cracked' in the google search engine. You will get it for free[Tip: If you type 'cracked' in front of any app name on google search, you will get it for free, just look for some trusted website like 'onhax' or 'okhax' or 'crackedapkfull']
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And I forgot to tell that GT recovery is now more updated. Now there is no need to type in the exact path. There is a direct option for Recover WhatsApp. Likewise there are other options too for messenger, call logs, etc if you need it?
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Oh, you were talking of the app, thought of the windows software. The app itself is free, isn't it? I tried the app, it stucks at 0% scanning and I don't think it'll work. Tried different apps, it seems they're only looking for sdcard/whatsapp/database instead of data/data/com.whatsapp so it would be awesome if I could set a path
Thank you very much for your help.
TehEvil said:
Oh, you were talking of the app, thought of the windows software. The app itself is free, isn't it? I tried the app, it stucks at 0% scanning and I don't think it'll work. Tried different apps, it seems they're only looking for sdcard/whatsapp/database instead of data/data/com.whatsapp so it would be awesome if I could set a path[emoji14]
Thank you very much for your help.
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Yes its free...windows version is paid but my app doesn't stuck. Mine one is working perfectly. See that you try some other older versions of the app too. Maybe you downloaded the version that stucks at 0% or something like that.
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tiger1487 said:
Yes its free...windows version is paid but my app doesn't stuck. Mine one is working perfectly. See that you try some other older versions of the app too. Maybe you downloaded the version that stucks at 0% or something like that.
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Sorry for answering late :x
Okay, it seems that my root was broken somehow, but now as it works, the program tells me I am not rooted (now I am for sure!) and wants me to download Kingo root or something. But anyway, I had GBWhatsapp installed on my phone, so I think the app won't help me because it would search for com.whatsapp instead of com.gbwhatsapp (could that be possible?)
I found the app Undeleter, this has some more path search options but unfortunately not one where I can specify my desired path. So, I hope you got one last idea?
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Non-rooted backup of app caches on data partition?

Hello all,
I've been searching this topic for a few weeks, and have yet to find a viable solution. I want to grab some files out of the app caches on the data partition of my Pixel 2. I don't necessarily want to root it, because I have no desire to modify anything, just want to view some stuff.
I've tried several backup apps - which have either failed because they need root, or "backup disallowed". I've also tried adb using pull, backup, cp, shell, etc. It seems a bit backwards to unlock the bootloader, wiping the device of the very data I'm trying to extract. It's been frustrating to not be able to access one's own personal data ?
Any ideas? Thank you.
+1 I'd love to have this answer as well. All my passwords are in Twik (Play store app). I don't think Google is backing up app data (or are they?). If I ever decide to flash the Pixel 2, I'll have to re-type all my websites, plus the private key. Twik is one of the few apps I rely on that isn't cloud based. I suspect the answer is there's no way on an unrooted android device.
Speaking of Google backing up app data, Google android says it can restore app and app data, but in my experience, unless the app uses cloud based data, it ain't happening. So why do they claim to backup app data? I suppose they are refering to Google apps, as of coarse, Google does keep your Google app cloud data anyway, so you'll have it restored when you log back into your android device.
You could try using Helium for backing up data. Even without root, if you follow the instructions (download the file to a Windows box and connect the phone to it) Helium should work.
Rukbat said:
You could try using Helium for backing up data. Even without root, if you follow the instructions (download the file to a Windows box and connect the phone to it) Helium should work.
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I think I tried that once. But without root, it skips anything that has it's backup flag set to "false". Unless you know a way to trick it ?

[Help] How do I recover permanently deleted files from Android Mobile phone?

Recently, I have permanently deleted files from my Android device after factory reset and I didn't take any backup. Is there have any possibility to recover my important data without having any backup?
Try EaseUS MobiSaver app.
You can definitely check the local backup of your phone if you have take backup regularly then, you have enabled to restore data from mobile. Sometimes, files have an automatic backup on Google account. So, you can check your Google backup. In case, if you didn't get back lost after the factory reset then, you may also try the Android data recovery tool. There is no guarantee for data recovery by using any program. But if it will possible to recover files then, it will show the preview of deleted data during the free trial edition.
To be honest, the chances of it would entirely depend on how long you have performed the factory reset. If it has not been so long, then you can actually get your data back. Pick a recovery tool that supports your device, it will let you preview the data and restore them.
Sorry for the delayed reply. For the ones who have the same problem, usually it's difficult to recover them back. You can ask for help from pro shop. Pro shop like Dr.fone, EaseUS MobiSaver, Coolmuster Lab.Fone for Android, etc. I am not sure they can work well or not. Before that, you need to stop using your phone. Cause data can not be recovered if they are overwritten by new data. And do remember to take backup of your phone usually. It's easy and safe.
I'm in the same seat and I also managed to flash an original rom on a Galaxy S8 on top of that.
Tried trial versions of all the mentioned and some others but they aren't able to detect anything relevant.
At the moment I'm wondering whether to take the loss or hand it in to a professional.
Can they do anything more that the different recovery softwares can't?
(I thought my phone was synced through a cloud app but it turns out it wasn't.)
I have used an app Named "DiskDigger" it worked perfect for me for recovering Pictures.
Have NonRoot-Method and Root Methood
dashti.95 said:
I have used an app Named "DiskDigger" it worked perfect for me for recovering Pictures.
Have NonRoot-Method and Root Methood
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how do i do it?
Sahurley78 said:
how do i do it?
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its easy just download diskdigger on your android device and it have a button to start recovery
I just found this thread on google, I would like to know if anyone knows a way to recover a deleted application data folder inside the "Android/data" folder in the internal storage, either by adb, usb debugging or with some software since they are important data and I have not gotten any solution .
Thanks in advance.

Question Root without phone resetting? Or backup app+it's data via adb or similar?

So I'm changing phones, but there's one app which I would have to backup including it's data. If I'd be rooted I could use Titanium Backup, unfortunately I'm not rooted.
Is there a way to root without wiping the phone or is there another way to backup the apps data (and restore) via adb or something else?
Google backup and restore is pretty good, it should restore your apps
beanbean50 said:
Google backup and restore is pretty good, it should restore your apps
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But I need the actual data of the app, does that come with Google backup and restore?
App in question is WhatsApp and I need the app including the registration etc on the new phone. Titanium backup can do that, but obviously needs root
Whatsapp has its own backup and restore feature I use it all the time. It will restore all your data, chats etc but you have to log in first
beanbean50 said:
Whatsapp has its own backup and restore feature I use it all the time. It will restore all your data, chats etc but you have to log in first
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I know... that's exactly the issue though. I'm asking for a way to backup 1:1 so I don't need to do the login. Which Titanium Backup can do since it's does it with all the apps data, but that obviously needs root which I don't have. Hence I'm asking for help here.
I found this which doesn't need root not sure how deep it goes though
How to fully backup and restore your Android device without root
One of Android’s little-known tricks is its built-in backup and restore process that allows users to save their private data...
9to5google.com
beanbean50 said:
I found this which doesn't need root not sure how deep it goes though
How to fully backup and restore your Android device without root
One of Android’s little-known tricks is its built-in backup and restore process that allows users to save their private data...
9to5google.com
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For that I'd need a way to remove everything from the backup besides WhatsApp though. As that does a backup and restore of everything, all apps, all file system etc IIRC
Trying adb backup now, there seems to be a java tool that allows you to open the backup file on pc
GitHub - nelenkov/android-backup-extractor: Android backup extractor
Android backup extractor. Contribute to nelenkov/android-backup-extractor development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
M4-NOOB said:
For that I'd need a way to remove everything from the backup besides WhatsApp though. As that does a backup and restore of everything, all apps, all file system etc IIRC
Trying adb backup now, there seems to be a java tool that allows you to open the backup file on pc
GitHub - nelenkov/android-backup-extractor: Android backup extractor
Android backup extractor. Contribute to nelenkov/android-backup-extractor development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Unfortunately WhatsApp wasn't included in the full backup for some reason
I just tried an app on play store called Swift Backup and it worked!
I made a backup of just whatsapp then deleted it and it restored it without signing in
beanbean50 said:
I just tried an app on play store called Swift Backup and it worked!
I made a backup of just whatsapp then deleted it and it restored it without signing in
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Is your phone rooted? Because all it does for me is apk backup, no data
hmm.. yep I'm rooted
why can't you sign in to whatsapp on your new phone
beanbean50 said:
hmm.. yep I'm rooted
why can't you sign in to whatsapp on your new phone
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I'm living in the UK for a few more months, but still use my German number on WhatsApp. The number has since been retired so I can't get SMS/calls on that one anymore, so I'm unable to sign in.
I wish I would've rooted the phone....
M4-NOOB said:
So I'm changing phones, but there's one app which I would have to backup including it's data. If I'd be rooted I could use Titanium Backup, unfortunately I'm not rooted.
Is there a way to root without wiping the phone or is there another way to backup the apps data (and restore) via adb or something else?
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Is that the Samsung moving phones thingy? Does that move apps including it's data so you don't have to set them up again?
I usually avoid the moving data from phone to phone during setup, because I take setting up a new phone as an opportunity to clean up data/apps. So I only reinstall those I actually need
EDIT: Just tried it, sadly not:
https://imgur.com/gyCtmLs
M4-NOOB said:
Is that the Samsung moving phones thingy? Does that move apps including it's data so you don't have to set them up again?
I usually avoid the moving data from phone to phone during setup, because I take setting up a new phone as an opportunity to clean up data/apps. So I only reinstall those I actually need
EDIT: Just tried it, sadly not:
https://imgur.com/gyCtmLs
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Backup with ur whatsapp. Its too easy. Anyway, in case u cant do it, think u have to reset only single app (whatsapp - like ur screenshot), so u cant?
tiennhu89 said:
Backup with ur whatsapp. Its too easy. Anyway, in case u cant do it, think u have to reset only single app (whatsapp - like ur screenshot), so u cant?
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As mentioned in here, using the backup inside WhatsApp still needs you to sign in again on the new phone which isn't my goal. I want to backup ALL of WhatsApp including the sign in, so I can just move it to the new phone without logging in.
M4-NOOB said:
As mentioned in here, using the backup inside WhatsApp still needs you to sign in again on the new phone which isn't my goal. I want to backup ALL of WhatsApp including the sign in, so I can just move it to the new phone without logging in.
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Then u have 2 options:
1 - Root your phone.
2 - Ask dev of Whatsapp to do something for u (for all too.lol). But i think it'll never come true. Its too risky for any apps.
tiennhu89 said:
Then u have 2 options:
1 - Root your phone.
2 - Ask dev of Whatsapp to do something for u (for all too.lol). But i think it'll never come true. Its too risky for any apps.
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Yeah thanks, I know it's possible with root which I don't have and doing it wipes the phone which makes my whole reason for this pointless.
This whole post was just asking if there's any way to do it without root. If you can't help don't reply?

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