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I tried to post a question about rooting the noot tablet and was told I have to have posted at least ten times here to be able to post there. Why do I see a junior member post with four posts over in the nook tablet thread. BTW not a rookie. I have rooted my Droid and played with ADB quite a bit.
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Depends on when they joined the forum. That rule isn't retroactive (IE if you joined before that rule, you don't need 10 posts to post in development sections).
Thanks for your response
The rule is meant to encourage people to post in the general section. Its a very widely held belief that the dev section is not for questions, its for dev work, and questions just clog the board and threads. There is no restriction to posting in any of the non-dev sections.
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While I understand with the general point of having to weed out the newbies's (and I include myself in that!) general questions/queries, I disagree with the 10 posts cut-off rule entirely.
One example: I have quite a trivial problem with compiling/upgrading certain packages (i.e. compiling and preparing .apk file after altering the source code and patching it) and building the rootfs for my phone.
This is a query only the devs would be able to address, quite easily, as they have been doing this for ages and know this process like the back on their hands.
This query is well-suited to be posted in one of the devs forums in here, but since I have less than 10 posts I can't do it and I am, quite literally, stuck!
It is not very likely that the devs are reading all the Q&A forums as the traffic on these is quite high and single queries like the one above could easily get lost among all the other stuff.
One of the Q&A forums had a traffic of about 6-7 pages of new threads per day, so you can understand why a single message could get lost there quite easily.
I did post my query, but, unsurprisingly, this was not answered.
I know I could wait and "blagg" my way through with meaningless posts to reach that 10 post minimum count, but I don't think this is a proper way of addressing this issue.
My two pence worth, of course.
I agree much with this thread. I dont believe I should have to post 10 times somewhere else that I have no interest in. Im looking to dev on the kindle android builds but I cant do anything but watch what others are posting. I personally believe this is bologna.
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While I understand with the general point of having to weed out the newbies's (and I include myself in that!) general questions/queries, I disagree with the 10 posts cut-off rule entirely.
One example: I have quite a trivial problem with compiling/upgrading certain packages (i.e. compiling and preparing .apk file after altering the source code and patching it) and building the rootfs for my phone.
This is a query only the devs would be able to address, quite easily, as they have been doing this for ages and know this process like the back on their hands.
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No, the dev forums are not there so you can ask the devs to answer your question.
This is exactly what the 10 post rule is there to prevent.
People using dev forums as Q&A forum, because they think they will receive quicker answers there.
Post your question in the question&answer forums, and if a dev wants to answer your question, he will do so, if not, well tough luck!
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No, the dev forums are not there so you can ask the devs to answer your question.
This is exactly what the 10 post rule is there to prevent.
People using dev forums as Q&A forum, because they think they will receive quicker answers there.
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I disagree - a cursory look at the Android Software Development (Discussion about Android-specific software development) forum shows at least 6 threads on the first page alone started by various posters either describing a specific problem/bug/feature (asking for clarification/assistance) or placing a direct question - see for yourself, go and have a look.
The other point I've made was that all these questions get drowned in the sea with all the rest and the chances of someone seeing, let alone addressing a specific problem are slim-to-none.
One other thing - when I get to test/implement something I've seen in a given dev forum (a package, a specific update zip etc - you get the point) and find an issue/bug or simply wish to post a comment or give a feedback, I can't do that, but have to go and do it in a completely different place, together with all other (unrelated) queries/questions from all other users - do you honestly think that makes sense, because to me it doesn't - at all!
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I tried to post a question about rooting the noot tablet and was told I have to have posted at least ten times here to be able to post there. Why do I see a junior member post with four posts over in the nook tablet thread. BTW not a rookie. I have rooted my Droid and played with ADB quite a bit.
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That are the rules that you agreed
I have been a member for years. I don't post often but read a lot. (More people should.) I have over 10 posts but I am not able to download. Is it because I haven't posted in so long? I was able to download a little over a month ago no problem but now it says I don't have 10.
When you are absolutly sure, that u only cant download from this website,
then you should contact an admin by using the contact form!
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I have been a member for years. I don't post often but read a lot. (More people should.) I have over 10 posts but I am not able to download. Is it because I haven't posted in so long? I was able to download a little over a month ago no problem but now it says I don't have 10.
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Downloads don't have postcount limit, in fact you can download while not logged in!
What are you trying to access?
Here is the link to the page and to the response that I get.
Thanks for the help so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1463854
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Yeah that 10 posts thing is garbage. Lol. I read through these forums and don't really post because all my questions are answered by reading. I understand your frustration. Hopefully you get this figured out.
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Here is the link to the page and to the response that I get.
Thanks for the help so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1463854
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I've got the same problem. But the first link is useless (for you). You need to click the second link.
The first one says "Thank you." to the author.
And that seems to be forbidden for users without ten posts.
- My first post!
awww bless congratulations on your first post.
that link doesnt work for me either.
-> My 10th post
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How are people with only 3 posts posting in development threads?
I can't yet. I don't mind. It's a good rule. Just wondering what's up.
jrocivxx said:
Yeah that 10 posts thing is garbage. Lol. I read through these forums and don't really post because all my questions are answered by reading. I understand your frustration. Hopefully you get this figured out.
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agreed, im trying to post up a how to guide with photos for the galaxy note and it wont even let me, now ive got to make up another 6 or so nonsense posts still before im allowed, I feel like im spamming but unfortunetly its the only way!
I can understand the 10 post limit, however there should be an option to be invited by a friend or even a developer.
LOL....Not enjoying this 10 post rule but I understand it. Been reading these forums for months and finally decided I wanted to help out in some of the dev threads and learned I couldn't yet. I remember what it was like being a noob so have some patience for it. But happy to be a part of this community!
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I can understand the 10 post limit, however there should be an option to be invited by a friend or even a developer.
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Congrats on #10! This post will probably be deleted now. hahaha!
Annoying
The first 10 posts r really annoying!
i dont have 10
I somehow agree...
Well, all the forums are affected by a strange epidemic problem: Noobs that start to post few things like "I like it" just see their counter going up.
I am a new "NOOB" here too and this is my second post but all I wanted to do is to give a feedback to one developer about a ViewPad7 ROM I downloaded from here two weeks ago. It was not one of the classic "Please I need this function working on my VP7". It's a valid feedback with some advices but I cannot.
So I believe that sending a PM to a developer and then developer sending you an invitation to take active part to a discussion.. will be a nice feature.
Same for me but I am new.
Been trying to get permissions to post in the dev forums, to be frank, the main reason i registered as its what xdadev is renowned for.
Got more than 10 posts, not really being GIVEN a reason, per se, that explains why I cant post yet
It's a good idea though, but if I meet the freaking criteria, it should be letting me in!
Yeah I get it for new comers that just want a quick fix without searching the forums and doing their homework and for spam. I can donate on a dev site but can't post? What gives.
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Glad I'm not the only one frustrated beyond believe with this STUPID, I'm gonna say it again IDIOTIC rule. I get it, we don't need NooBs spamming the forum and I respect XDA immensely but for the sake of everything that's sweet and evil I can't even express my gratitude to my precious Devs for the hard work they did on the ROM I have been using for months now :/ Yes, I can hit the thanks button, I can donate but still I want to voice my excitement! Now, I'm done venting and apologize for spamming. Android FTW!
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I don't see what the issue is... I once made 100 (useful) posts in 2 days. I don't see how 10 is a problem
Honestly, I'm finding the whole XDA forums to be a completely hellish experience. I am not allowed to ask questions about programming on the Android platform (which is the only reason I joined the forum in the first place), until I make 10 'helpful posts'.
Under such conditions, these posts are bound to be artificial and contrived. This is only human nature, you can't force people to be helpful and giving, and trying to do so only creates the opposite, plus a load of frustration and resentment.
Yet, if you do make artificial or contrived posts, these will be deleted! But, of course they will be contrived, the only reason for making them, is to meet the 10 post requirement. How can they not be contrived, could somebody explain that to me, I genuinely don't get it.
I've been making games for over 25 years now, and I've never come across anything so fiendishly hellish before, as this 10 post rule. As much as I would love to be a member of this community, I just can't get me head around it. There is no possibly for me to make 10 helpful posts, without being dishonest and trying to deceive you.
Is dishonestly and deceit a requirement of being a member of this community?
Earn your rep. This is my first post. 9 more til i can jump up a rung.
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Earn your rep. This is my first post. 9 more til i can jump up a rung.
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But if you're honest, isn't every post you make (to get to the 10) contrived, and you're only making it because it's another step along the way?
I know mine are. Only difference with me, is I'm being honest about it.
Of course every post we make is another step along the way.
Everything we do in life is another step along the way.
Is it really so much to ask that you make 10 helpful posts?
It's really not hard to do if you go to your devices forum and help some people out in either General or Q&A. There's also posts in this very section which can be answered even with only limited knowledge.
And if you don't feel like being helpful, then this is probably the wrong site for you considering this site has developers, themes etc. who put in countless hours of their own personal time making mods and decide to share them for the benefit of everyone.
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Of course every post we make is another step along the way.
Everything we do in life is another step along the way.
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Well, when we get to 10, it's a game changer; and we are then free to be natural and in a position to *freely* give and share our knowledge.
Before we get to the 10 post count, we're not freely giving and sharing our knowledge; we're doing so, in order to achieve the 10 post point.
I'm not trying to be belligerent or obtrusive at all. Honestly, I'm not.
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Is it really so much to ask that you make 10 helpful posts?
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Nope, the problem is when you ask that they are not contrived. It's like pointing a shotgun at someones head, and telling them 'act natural, or I shoot'. Under such circumstances, a person cannot act natural. If there were no shotgun, then it wouldn't be a problem and I would be free to respond naturally, and as I'm a helpful soul, I'd do what comes natural to me, and help people (as I do elsewhere in life, and on the internet).
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It's really not hard to do if you go to your devices forum and help some people out in either General or Q&A. There's also posts in this very section which can be answered even with only limited knowledge.
And if you don't feel like being helpful, then this is probably the wrong site for you considering this site has developers, themes etc. who put in countless hours of their own personal time making mods and decide to share them for the benefit of everyone.
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I will try.
Also, please understand, it's not that I don't feel like being helpful (in fact, I believe I am a very helpful and considerate soul); it's more that I feel incapable of making contrived helpful posts, when there is a shotgun to my head. It feels to me, as if I am being asked to act dishonestly.
It's not at all, that I just don't want to be helpful.
I have also put in countless hours, crafting my skill.
I'm actually also wondering if this is the right place for me. I'm a game developer, and in the process of porting a game to the Android platform (mostly I work on iOS). The kind of advice I'm looking for pertains to game development on Android, and I'm not sure if that's the focus of this forum?
The question I posted in the Q&A section, was related to sluggish touch input in a game I'm porting. I'm not sue the Q&A section is at all related to programming, though I could be wrong?
There are a bunch of debates/indignant threads, if you care
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1424
You're freely available to share your knowledge already. You don't need go have 10 posts to do that. It can be done by doing as I suggested before, answering peoples questions regarding the device you have.
The rules of xda ask that the posts new users make be helpful, because if they didn't, there would just be posts everywhere saying "thanks" or "good post" etc. As you can probably already see, there's loads of these posts as it is, so imagine how many there would be had these rules not been in place.
Each and every rule would've been thoroughly thought through and contemplated hundreds of times (at least) before they came into effect.
They're there because they work, while also bog driving away too many people.
There is a place for game development on here because as you may of may not have noticed, the majority of these device forums have a themes and apps section.
In there, you can find many a game which have been created by other members of xda.
On a final note, I won't discuss this further with you on this thread, because otherwise that's helping you get to 10 posts without actually helping out or contributing. That would defeat the purpose of my posts here.
If you wish to discuss it further, please feel free to PM me about it and I'll be glad to help you with any queries you have about this rule.
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I was frustrated too at first, but really? It is only ten posts man. Just refresh the general forum and find posts you can give a decent answer to. It isn't as bad as your making it seem.
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If you wish to discuss it further, please feel free to PM me about it and I'll be glad to help you with any queries you have about this rule.
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I will do, I'll send you a PM, thanks. It may be in a few days though, just need to cool down a little. Have been frustrated at a number of things (not just this place), also super-frustrated regarding the technical issue I'm having with multi-touches.
I don't mind if you delete this post; I appreciate if could be construed as an attempt to sneak in an extra post. Ironically, it's not, it's just me honestly expressing myself.
So yeah, may well leave if for a few days to cool down, and come back to it.
Best Regards,
J.
Wrong section, topic has beaten to death, etc. Thread closed.
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I understand the principle of the 10-post limit before I can post in a developer thread, but it means i have to post meaningless things in other areas just to get my post numbers up.
Thoughts?
No. That's NOT what you do. Post useful posts, not meaningless posts. If you post crap they'll just get deleted
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in the last week ive managed to go from being new to android to installing CWM and a new rom, tweakign it and finding bugs to report that arent reported yet. only i cant report them. i cant post. i have a good topic to discuss with the devs. would like to donate. and get into the community. but its hard with this restriction... only i understand why its here. post number 2 down...
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in the last week ive managed to go from being new to android to installing CWM and a new rom, tweakign it and finding bugs to report that arent reported yet. only i cant report them. i cant post. i have a good topic to discuss with the devs. would like to donate. and get into the community. but its hard with this restriction... only i understand why its here. post number 2 down...
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Yes, the rule is very understandable. Since you know about Android you can easily look through threads and help some newbies out
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in the last week ive managed to go from being new to android to installing CWM and a new rom, tweakign it and finding bugs to report that arent reported yet. only i cant report them. i cant post. i have a good topic to discuss with the devs. would like to donate. and get into the community. but its hard with this restriction... only i understand why its here. post number 2 down...
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i know whatcha mean..ive been a member here for quite awhile but never posted anything..just used this site for information but the other day tried to post in a dev thread and was amazed to find out i was restricted lol .. this is a fantastic site though..ive learned alot over the years here..anything you need to know this is the place to look.
Same situation with me. Been trying to find anything good to chime in on. Anyone know where I can find a good thread for android games?
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I just went to the "General" and "Q&A" type forums here and for the devices I have and answered simple questions - so simple even a total n00b like me could say something useful !
To all the noobs, what makes you so special to where you will be exempt from the rules. Consider it a right of passage. If I had to endure, so shall you. Its not hard;to make ten HELPFUL posts. Stop copping out that's its an inconvenience and just do it!!
besides there are a lot of people asking questions that can benefit from your inputs in the general section
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It's actually an incredibly stupid rule, just like the noob video on account creation. Assumes that everyone who browses the forums are brainless script kiddies and leechers, rather than those who came from other websites and development communities.
But we're thankful that it's only a 10 post limit, I suppose.
There has Been more than a thousand threads of this kind.
Instead of just fuming over the rule and wasting time, make use of it and be useful to others and get the 10 post count.
Reporting......
And BTW have a look at this thread if you are eager to post in dev forum.
LIFE! Enjoy it while you Still have it!
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This topic has been discussed at length numerous times in many threads. There's really no need for another one.
I know XDA has the 10 post rule, but I signed up to fix an issue with thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890199
The old XDA thread is the top result on Google for renaming Android apps. Thread was renewed by Ashish Mundhra, a writer for www.guidingtech.com, whom necromanced this old tool that is no longer being developed. Normally instead of all this backstory I would have just posted:
A tool that is up to date, works, doesn't need Windows, and is still being developed.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gmail.heagoo.apkeditor
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When Google points me to a sour, stale, or dead thread, I like to point that thread to the new information that works if/when a solution is found.
It's disappointing I can't do this directly but I understand, so can one of you do it? I think the spirit of a site like this is community help and support.
Why I don't think this new post is forum necromancy:
Forums are great sources of information so long as the content is on point and furthers the topic. Post's like "It doesn't work for me." I believe is necromancy. However, providing a solution using modern hardware or an alternative I believe is a great asset to forums.
What are other user's thoughts? Would someone be able to update this thread for me? If not, why?
Why not actively posting on the thread you think it needs to be updated ? Whoever reads the thread would eventually see your post I guess ...
Do you want someone to add your thoughts on the first post of that thread ?
Unfortunately xanthrax, as a new member I cannot post to developer forums. I would need assistance from another member to do what you suggest.
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Unfortunately xanthrax, as a new member I cannot post to developer forums. I would need assistance from another member to do what you suggest.
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Hi !
That`s ok and due to not enough posts count.
All new members must reach 10 posts across the forum in order to be able to participate on the development section by helping around .
This will make them get accustomed to our website before jumping into the development section.
No problem. I've lurked years but only now created an account.
As to the purpose of this thread, my thoughts were that I could possibly gather relevant post replies while debating my own topic for 10 posts.
The 10 post rule is a good one. Not everyone has dialed into information via BBS and used the internet before it became popular for information, instead of popular for instant messaging.
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