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Reminder to anyone who is not a Dev...

First let me qualify (or disqualify) myself.
I do not own a Viewsonic G Tablet.
I own other Android devices.
I have a strong background in development and programming. I am the Director of Engineering for a small company in Tennessee where we develop adult amusement devices (no, not porn) such as slots, video poker, etc.
I am proficient in many languages, as well as 'nix operating systems.
I have cooked my own roms in the past.
Second...
I have been lurking around the XDA developer forum since back in the Windows Mobile 6 days. I currently have an Android phone and an Android tablet (not a Viewsonic).
Like everyone else here, the prospect of the new build is tasty. Wanting to delve into it myself to see what I can do, It is helpful to me to look (like many others) in the development forums to see what I can see.
However...
Let this serve as a warning to anyone who is not a "Dev" on this forum.
This forum, like many other here at XDA belongs to a handful of "Devs" and you are not one of these "Devs".
Your best bet is to lurk like the rest of us. I don't care if you have a Honeycomb port that will work on this device or a pill that cures cancer. They don't want to see it and you don't want the hassle of being flamed for trying to contribute. They will get to it and you will not beat them to it.
Devs work hard. They do the work for free and they should be revered and respected. But make no mistake, they know it and are not afraid to tell you to STFU and GTFO for merely making a suggestion or comment.
So do all of us a favor, stick to the General forums and don't poke the bear.
I do not plan to respond to this thread and it should probably be closed immediately.

neo4uo said:
Not trying to poke your bear, but even this thread should not be posted in here. This needs to be moved to the general section. This thread defines the word ironic.
Peace \oo/
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.........lmfao i was about to say the same thing, this thread totally defeat its purpose, the fact is no matter how much you tell people to "search" "post in the proper section" "dont ask for ETAs" and so on theres going to be someone that dont follows the rules, and WTF???? "This forum, like many other here at XDA belongs to a handful of Devs"??? this forum belogs to the community just as much as it does the devs......obviously someone did not read the "state of the site anoucement......tsk......tskk

I am poking the Bear, and here it goes.
If you want us peasants to stop posting in the Development forum of ANY device, simply create a tag for Developers, make it so only "x" amount of posts and a review by the mods, will grant someone this tag. Then you limit access to the Dev forum to tag holders only. Then, when one of the Devs (whos' work is tremendous and I highly resect) has something ready to go, they can post a link or a file in the General section.
That way us 'morons' who are not welcome here can't possibly get in their way with our useless posts and questions. I am tired of the elitist attitude that some have here. Yes a lot of you know more than I do about this stuff, yes I am learning to do this stuff in my SPARE TIME. I am not in college, I do not have a job that allows me to sit in front of a computer all day(don't want it either). When I do have the time to get invloved, or if I find something useful, like many of us, I want to post it. I don't want to be a leach. I can only speak for myself with this. I may not be able to give as much as the devs do, but how can I possibly learn if I dno't ask questions?
The Search feature that people here are so in love with and can't wait to tell us "search is your friend"?
Its almost useless. Its rare that I can find what I'm looking for in the limited amount of time I have to be on here. Its generally easier for me, and many others I suspect, to ask the question and wait for an answer.

Then ask the question. The big complaint is that most don't even try to look or they post "LOOK>>>>>HONEYCOMB ON THE NOOK.....WHY DONT WE HAVE IT YET" in the dev section. Granted the search function isnt great but filling up the forum with the same questions over and over is what makes the search function useless to some. Although I seem to be able to find what I'm looking for most of the time with a little work. The moderators have asked that people not post general questions as new threads in the dev section yet it keeps being done.
its not an elitist attitude about the dev section. Its a request to keep the posts to development only or at least inside the correct thread and not keep asking the same question over and over with a new thread.

I agree with limited access...
Frrrrrrunkis said:
I am poking the Bear, and here it goes.
If you want us peasants to stop posting in the Development forum of ANY device, simply create a tag for Developers, make it so only "x" amount of posts and a review by the mods, will grant someone this tag. Then you limit access to the Dev forum to tag holders only. Then, when one of the Devs (whos' work is tremendous and I highly resect) has something ready to go, they can post a link or a file in the General section.
That way us 'morons' who are not welcome here can't possibly get in their way with our useless posts and questions. I am tired of the elitist attitude that some have here. Yes a lot of you know more than I do about this stuff, yes I am learning to do this stuff in my SPARE TIME. I am not in college, I do not have a job that allows me to sit in front of a computer all day(don't want it either). When I do have the time to get invloved, or if I find something useful, like many of us, I want to post it. I don't want to be a leach. I can only speak for myself with this. I may not be able to give as much as the devs do, but how can I possibly learn if I dno't ask questions?
The Search feature that people here are so in love with and can't wait to tell us "search is your friend"?
Its almost useless. Its rare that I can find what I'm looking for in the limited amount of time I have to be on here. Its generally easier for me, and many others I suspect, to ask the question and wait for an answer.
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I think the idea of tags is a great idea, but once again I don't know how easy this function would be.

thebadfrog said:
Then ask the question.
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Unfortunately, you're changing the rules of the present discussion with that. The OP stated "Devs work hard. They do the work for free and they should be revered and respected. But make no mistake, they know it and are not afraid to tell you to STFU and GTFO for merely making a suggestion or comment." The implication of that is you SHOULDN'T ask the question, you should just STFU.
IMO, the OP is WAY out of line. If the devs don't want comments/suggestions/questions, then they should keep their dev work private and not open it up for public consumption. Yes, the rest of the community wouldn't benefit as much in that case, but there's no excuse for an arrogant attitude like saying STFU for GTFO if someone merely makes a suggestion or comment on something that's been posted for public consumption.
If the devs are simply doing their work and sharing it just to have people fawn all over them for it and expect not to have to deal with the questions/comments/suggestions of the "unwashed masses", well, sorry, the world (and this site/forum, from my understanding) doesn't work that way.

Its the answering "How do I install clockwork?" question that is posted all the time even tho its clearly posted as a sticky. "I've followed the directions exactly and I cant get TnTlite to install".....wrong....you havent or it would have installed. "When are we gonna get an update to X rom?"......"How come we don't have Honeycomb yet?"....."Your rom bricked my device"....."Why won't someone answer my question? that was posted 15 minutes ago.....The devs do this on their own time and for the most part are happy to answer questions but when its clear that someone has no intention of learning for themselves and just want the info handed to them on a silver platter.......well....it gets old

The OP is out of line with his "psa" unless he speaks on behalf of the collective body of said developers.
This is a rhetorical post, I will not be responding again.
Edit: see what I did there with that last line?

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Collaaaaa!!!!

If we want to grow the G Tab community ( aka continue to receive the excellent support from the Devs) we need to grow the number of G Tab users. If I were considering a new tablet purchase and stopped by here to check out the G Tab, I would not put it high on my list. If new members post in the wrong section or dup a post, it's Ok to send them a "Friendly" reminder, but to blast them like this is an insult to everyone here. Hell they might even be driven to buy a windows mobile 6 product.

Programmer Developer with years of expierence treated like a kid

I like many others experienced developers do not appreciate going thru the reg process and then being told I cannot post except in the kiddy forums. (Q$A or General). I have read xda forums for the better part of 4 months and don’t feel like being baby sat!
Here is my 1st post only 9 more I have no general questions as I got past that YEARS AGO. I will play nice I will play nice ...
I was going to post some VALID comments and was blocked.
Sorry for rant but... I wont go on.

updated to AT$T 2.2 and now on quest to root
I have to get this bloatware off this phone one way or another. I cant stand paying for a phone and then being unable to get the junkware off.
Has anyone had success with rooting the stock ATT 2.2 rom. The update.zip files dont seem to work anymore.
I am just posting this here so I can get my post count up so I can participate in the dev forums.
Later.
Mark

It only takes 8 posts for the admins to approve your account for full membership, and getting to post in development.
8 posts. wait an hour or less. done!
8 posts isnt hard and isnt treating anyone like a child.

thank u for the info, TRusselo ...

I agree, the post minimum should only apply when starting a thread in dev, not fair to apply it to replys. If you need to reply in a thread then more power to you. If your wish is to start a thread in dev to ask a question then I will inform you now to post it in q&a as it will be moved there

Well why not just be in the Q&A forum and help people out by answering their questions? You help people and you get your post count up.

No offense to the OP, but that's probably one of the dumbest posts I've seen here. It doesn't matter if you're a programmer/developer/what-have-you, just because you spend 4 months lurking and don't contribute a single post doesn't give you any kind of authoritative measure as to how the posting should be govern regardless of your literacy on the matter of programming/hacking.

The more educated tend to be the most antidisestablishmentarists there are.... The Rule for 10 posts really is more dealing with the noobs that have no idea the difference between a smartphone and a smart-ass... Ergo the rule, just post 10 times and move on.
Love Android ......... can't wait until the next flash !!!!!

Well,I for one don't like the whole 10 posts idea.Why?There are people who can contribute from their first moment here,without having a single post,and there are others who have hundreds or even thousands of posts,but cannot help anybody,not even themselves.Number of posts doesn't make you a noob,nor does it un-noob you if you have it in you.

tolis626 said:
Well,I for one don't like the whole 10 posts idea.Why?There are people who can contribute from their first moment here,without having a single post,and there are others who have hundreds or even thousands of posts,but cannot help anybody,not even themselves.Number of posts doesn't make you a noob,nor does it un-noob you if you have it in you.
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It's also to curb spambots with their single-post filled with links. Any other questions?

lude219 said:
It's also to curb spambots with their single-post filled with links. Any other questions?
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that one makes sense ...

lude219 said:
No offense to the OP, but that's probably one of the dumbest posts I've seen here. It doesn't matter if you're a programmer/developer/what-have-you, just because you spend 4 months lurking and don't contribute a single post doesn't give you any kind of authoritative measure as to how the posting should be govern regardless of your literacy on the matter of programming/hacking.
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No lurking at all. I spent four months researching and doing things in android w/o posting a bunch of stupid questions for things that have been already answered. I am sorry if your feelings were hurt.
All that rule accomplished was that I didn’t post an observation that I saw while trying to root the stock 2.2 ATT ROM. But since I couldn’t post I guess I will just let others figure it out on their own.
It is not so much my literacy on programming / hacking it is the assumption that I am a spammer and or a stupid kid that won’t use search to find answers to questions that have already been asked.
The one post per every 5 minutes works for most spammers.
IN ADDITION if you didn’t get the obvious smiley connotations that it WAS MOSTLY SARCASM and a way to get startedd posting in the kid section. The end of the world didn’t come because I couldn’t post on an Android forum LOL I don’t have to say more, SARCASM!! Get it???

Well, removed the posts which are not meant for this section ( maybe off topic section ! )
And yes, if you have achieved all that you claim to have - as in the developer etc etc you could be kind enough and go over to the question answer 10 simple questions and bingo ! Post in the dev section, that would be appreciated way more than a rant.
But, your call.
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How I think we can improve the forums

First of all, (before someone decides to jump the gun and start with the flaming) I'd like to note that even though this is my first post, I have been visiting these forums for quite some time. I am not new here and the first time I visited was long-long-long before I actually registered.
I love XDA. It is the go-to source for all my phone modifying needs. XDA is the very best there is hands down!
My biggest gripe with XDA is that there are too many people posting in threads with posts that are unhelpful, off topic, intended to flame the user that posted the OP, and sometimes just a complete waste of a read.
I think (and this is just my opinion) that these forums would improve significantly if the moderators would delete all posts that are unhelpful toward the OP. We need our moderators to do more moderating and maybe even recruiting more moderators to get the job done if it is too much for the current moderating crew to handle.
As most of you XDA veterans know, we get a lot of people that drop in and ask questions that have been asked and answered again and again and again. I feel that the reason why new people don't bother to read, is because 9 times out of ten there will be a long list of posts following a question and it becomes a real chore for the newbies to go through reading every single important and insignificant post in between, they get frustrated, give up, and start a new thread with a question that has already been asked a zillion times.
Anyone agree?

i totally agree with you. the two things that get annoying (at least for me): people asking the same question and people posting something unhelpful (like i saw one person asking for a link and some other guy was like "find it yourself, its not that hard")
but things are going to change:
http://www.xda-developers.com/annou...-not-an-official-statement-but-a-perspective/

It's an Internet forum. Unless we start charging admission to users, it will not change. It's just the nature of the beast.

misfitdeluxe said:
I feel that the reason why new people don't bother to read, is because 9 times out of ten there will be a long list of posts following a question and it becomes a real chore for the newbies to go through reading every single important and insignificant post in between, they get frustrated, give up, and start a new thread with a question that has already been asked a zillion times.
Anyone agree?
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Welcome to the <s>wasteland</s> internet. mods have a hard jobs and do it for free.
The best solution imho is a voting system like yahoo answers but I have never seen it done before lol
Trust me d-..-b im from the webs

Would you go to a car forum and ask someone how to go about changing your oil? Or how you can change a light? I get that new people will show up, and we've all been there, but some effort should be put forth.
I rarely bother answering questions that are discussed entirely too often, and sometimes (for kicks) I will Google someones query in the closest manner that they happened to ask it and I am shocked at what I find. I dunno what is worse; a way too frequently discussed topic being asked about or the 'I tried searching but XDA search sucks / is down.' Shocking to think XDA and Google search were so tightly integrated.
I get that people are going to be new. It's fun, in that sense, to know that so many people are just getting into it. But you should be capable of poking around before diving in.
I won't deny that I've inquired about something that I found out about AFTER asking. Asked a question and then followed it up with a Google search. Rookie move. Sure. But 9 /10 times that doesn't happen. If that many questions actually need to get asked.
As far as improving the forums ... as Android grows you will only get more and more users. More and more questions. Hopefully telling one person to search will be seen by 5 newcomers and influence them to do the same. I always tell people to Google search first anyways as forum search tools tend to just be so up in the air as they are. Not XDA specific, but naturally.
Sometimes I'm also just reading through a few threads and don't have the time to bother. Even for a legitimate reply or unhelpful post. It all depends. The threads will continue. Questions will flow. Patience will be lost. The Forum's greatly improved? I think not.
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I'm been member of many forums and its same everywhere. All mods can do is do a best job as they can do to keep forums reasonable.

The best solution imho is a voting system like yahoo answers but I have never seen it done before lol
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An excellent idea, and I have seen it done before. There is a voting system in place at the Adobe forums. It is a very convenient and effective mechanism for users to quickly find the right information they need. Having something of that capacity here would be pure elite!

More Understanding of newcomers.

More and more i see in the forums newcomers asking for legitimate advice and guidance, and some even preface there lack of english, and yet i see other relative newcomers flame them, and sometimes even members/senior members also join the band wagon.
Some moderators have no qualms in flaming also... you know who you are.
Sure, there are those newcomers that have nothing better to do than start a thread for the enjoyment of pissing people off...I am confident the Mods will nuke them quickly.
I joined the site for the camaraderie and knowledge that is brought to the table.
Friendly banter is healthy , but abusive and racist comments should stop.
My 2 cents worth here, Don't respond to flamers as they want to bask in their glory and if we bite back we are no better than them.
I want my forums back to how they used to be. friendly, helpful, humourous.
The only way to get the respect we deserve is to lead by example.
Gets off my soapbox.
Waits to be flamed for this post...lol

+ 1
Your post should be stickied and copied to all the forums.
Thanks for your two cents.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA Premium App.

I agree with you, but on the other hand teasing noobs is healthy for them. It's like in highschool, freshmans get teased, and it toughens them up.
A lot of new users seemingly post threads without doing any searching or reading any stickies. Making them aware of these options bluntly is good imo and saves the forum of clutter.
I haven't seen much noob bashing on here though, correct me if I'm wrong.

You are right. New phone, new rooting method, threads that aren't 100 pages long, plus we are all to some degree noobs here has made an exemplary forum.
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I can't stand it when people jump all over noobs. All the time I see people getting their heads bitten off & actually being called names by senior members just for asking simple questions. It's positively shameful & it needs to stop. If they're asking stupid questions or being rude, yeah I can understand some backlash for that but sometimes it seems like the senior members just wanna chase off new people. XDA is supposed to be a community of smart people with an interest in phone modding but sometimes we act like an 8th grade class.
We were all noobs once & we need to remember that before we scream at someone for asking a question that- *GASP*- may have been answered before. A gentle reminder to search will suffice, no need to rip them a new one. And we also need to consider that not everyone knows exactly what terms to search for & that search is down for maintenance half the time to begin with.

moh0 said:
I agree with you, but on the other hand teasing noobs is healthy for them. It's like in highschool, freshmans get teased, and it toughens them up.
A lot of new users seemingly post threads without doing any searching or reading any stickies. Making them aware of these options bluntly is good imo and saves the forum of clutter.
I haven't seen much noob bashing on here though, correct me if I'm wrong.
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The search function as on any forum is not infallible and the way some new posters are treated is less than great, people don't come on here to be toughened up but to gain knowledge.

Well said OP! Most of the XDA gang usually helps one another...

APPLAUSE ...APPLAUSE
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Super Chimp said:
The search function as on any forum is not infallible and the way some new posters are treated is less than great, people don't come on here to be toughened up but to gain knowledge.
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XDA is more a community than a school. In order to be a functioning part of a community, you must go through the motions of becoming a valuable member. I'm not condoning the bashing of noobs. But if new users constantly ask silly questions, something has to be said about it.

Flaming for questions?

Why is it that people that have been part of the community for a while are such dicks? I don't understand why people are so inconsiderate when someone new asks a question. I understand there is a Q/A section and that people should read but when someone asks a "nebbish" question is a thread that it is OBVIOUSLY pertaining to people jump right on top of them and say stuff like "read it dumbass" or "google it". In the time that it takes to make such an a$$whole remark you could be a nice individual and help the person out. I understand it probably gets frustrating when people ask the same questions over and over but grow up. If your going to be part of a "hacking" community new people are going to come into the game and ask the tried and true questions. I for one asked plenty of question when I first started modding my phones and came across plenty of jerkoffs with snide remarks. It's very frustrating when you're getting used to a new system and have to spends hours and hours reading to try and find 1 answer to a simple question instead of being able to just ask. This is a community which by definition is a group of people living together in one place, esp. one practicing common ownership, and we should act like it. Help your fellow modders don't curb stomp their new excitement of having a new nifty phone.

I do agree that people are much, MUCH harsher on people than they should be, but I also believe that there is an etiquette for posting. In my book, if someone labels a thread as [Q] in general, no big deal. I don't give a crap what section it's in, just so it has some kind of order to it. Threads titled DEEZ NUTZ MAH PHONE IZ BROKE usually are begging to be flamed.
And on that note, I will simply say this:
treat others politely, and they will do the same. Unless they are doushecanoes. In which case you probably wouldn't want their advice anyway.
/rant

I'll offer my 2 cents on this topic. What I'd like to know is what are the repercussions of having numerous thrends of the same or similar topic, will the forum lag, will our cool phones spontaneously combust right before our very eyes, ill say non of the above. So who really gives a [email protected]$ if we have repeat topics...instead of replying "Google it or use the search option" (which sucks by the way) all you have to do is NOTHING, just use the back button on your phone and release yourself from the topic.
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It isn't just forum etiquette. In a forum as large and widely used as XDA, not following the rules severely inhibits the functionality of the site. Creating a new thread on an existing topic doesn't just create a duplicate search result; it splinters the conversation, making it harder for those very newbies - or even more advanced users - find the information they need. XDA Developers is a resource not just for new users who want to know how the change the background on their phone, but for advanced developers and everyone in between.
If I have an issue with a specific application, and I search for that application, but there are 20, 50, or 100+ threads, the amount of information I have to wade through to find the answers I'm looking for increases almost exponentially, since the same questions will undoubtedly be repeated in each and every thread. On top of that, the likelihood that a user (new or otherwise) will miss the one nugget they are looking for increases even more significantly.
Some of the harshness is indeed childish, but XDA isn't your personal butler or tech support for your new device. It is an online forum that needs people to follow the rules to continue to be as useful as we have all known it to be. Otherwise, it's usefulness will degrade to the point of uselessness, and those flamers don't want to see that happen.

I can't figure it out myself.
Sent from my SGS II

I think the only reason why a lot of people are like that is because most of this stuff can be learned without asking any questions at all. Of course, there will be times when someone has a weird question and it has to be asked but if everyone would just review the rules and follow them there wouldn't be any problems.

beatblaster said:
I think the only reason why a lot of people are like that is because most of this stuff can be learned without asking any questions at all. Of course, there will be times when someone has a weird question and it has to be asked but if everyone would just review the rules and follow them there wouldn't be any problems.
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I agree, I had my phone running Infused GB before I ever even posted on the forum. I simply researched my questions and made sure I knew exactly how to do what I wanted to before I changed anything on my phone. Some people are just lazy...95% percent of the time, the question has been answered.

Focustom said:
Why is it that people that have been part of the community for a while are such dicks? I don't understand why people are so inconsiderate when someone new asks a question. I understand there is a Q/A section and that people should read but when someone asks a "nebbish" question is a thread that it is OBVIOUSLY pertaining to people jump right on top of them and say stuff like "read it dumbass" or "google it". In the time that it takes to make such an a$$whole remark you could be a nice individual and help the person out. I understand it probably gets frustrating when people ask the same questions over and over but grow up. If your going to be part of a "hacking" community new people are going to come into the game and ask the tried and true questions. I for one asked plenty of question when I first started modding my phones and came across plenty of jerkoffs with snide remarks. It's very frustrating when you're getting used to a new system and have to spends hours and hours reading to try and find 1 answer to a simple question instead of being able to just ask. This is a community which by definition is a group of people living together in one place, esp. one practicing common ownership, and we should act like it. Help your fellow modders don't curb stomp their new excitement of having a new nifty phone.
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I believe the scientific term is called NERD RAGE. But while it is excessive, it's to prove a point. An organized forum is a happy forum.

Yeah but organization and common courtesy can coexist. Help each other instead of cutting each down. I understand the forum becomes a cluster fack when people post a crap load of stuff about the same topic
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Is there a way to adjust the search function to search the infuse forum rather than the entire forum (all devices) because that's the problem, I for one have tried countless times to search for something that I've read when the thrend was new but the search gives me topics from every device, and most of the time the search doesnt even locate what I'm looking for. So either look thru 100's of pages while guessing if the thrend was made in general or Q&A or post a new topic. I feel advanced search options would greatly reduce the repeat topic issue.
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SolusCado said:
It isn't just forum etiquette. In a forum as large and widely used as XDA, not following the rules severely inhibits the functionality of the site. Creating a new thread on an existing topic doesn't just create a duplicate search result; it splinters the conversation, making it harder for those very newbies - or even more advanced users - find the information they need. XDA Developers is a resource not just for new users who want to know how the change the background on their phone, but for advanced developers and everyone in between.
If I have an issue with a specific application, and I search for that application, but there are 20, 50, or 100+ threads, the amount of information I have to wade through to find the answers I'm looking for increases almost exponentially, since the same questions will undoubtedly be repeated in each and every thread. On top of that, the likelihood that a user (new or otherwise) will miss the one nugget they are looking for increases even more significantly.
Some of the harshness is indeed childish, but XDA isn't your personal butler or tech support for your new device. It is an online forum that needs people to follow the rules to continue to be as useful as we have all known it to be. Otherwise, it's usefulness will degrade to the point of uselessness, and those flamers don't want to see that happen.
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Have you seen how many posts are in some of these threads. We have threads in here that have over 1000 posts in them with prob 20% tell people to read the whole tread. I might be easier on the folks if the devs would start a new thread with a new version of their ROM or Kernel. I know most of the Dev in the captivate forum used to do that when I was on a cappy.
Just my two cents.
Erik

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Is there a way to adjust the search function to search the infuse forum rather than the entire forum
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YES!!! Near the top of a sub fourm, such as the infuse section, there is a SEARCH THIS FOURM link. You can even, from there, do an advanced search and really customize/narrow down your search results! Also within a thread at the top there is a SEARCH THIS THREAD link, which helps in those 100+ page threads.
As to why people jump all over "stupid" questions... IDk possibly mother issues???

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treat others politely, and they will do the same. Unless they are doushecanoes.
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This pretty much summed up the thread for me.

Tomdg07 said:
YES!!! Near the top of a sub fourm, such as the infuse section, there is a SEARCH THIS FOURM link. You can even, from there, do an advanced search and really customize/narrow down your search results! Also within a thread at the top there is a SEARCH THIS THREAD link, which helps in those 100+ page threads.
As to why people jump all over "stupid" questions... IDk possibly mother issues???
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Those must be for the PC, the app search doesn't offer those features, unless I'm blind.
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nash2000 said:
Those must be for the PC, the app search doesn't offer those features, unless I'm blind.
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Yup, desktop site, app search blows....
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