3 gb internal always used even after formatting. Oneplus 3t - General Questions and Answers

My oneplus 3t always shows around 3 gb used space even after formatting.
I tried fastboot format userdata, and when i get into twrp the internal is around 24gb in which around 1.5 gb is used. Then i would use twrp's format data option and then it will show 54gb, in which around 3gb is used.
This 3gb is showing as others when a rom is flashed and the storage option is selected from the settings of the rom. I have tried fastboot erase userdata and fastboot flash userdata​ userdata_64GB.img with no luck. Anyone please explain to me why this happens and how can i get rid of that used space. Also i would like to know why after formatting using fastboot , the internal shows only 24 gb.
Thank you.

Solaman Solu said:
My oneplus 3t always shows around 3 gb used space even after formatting.
I tried fastboot format userdata, and when i get into twrp the internal is around 24gb in which around 1.5 gb is used. Then i would use twrp's format data option and then it will show 54gb, in which around 3gb is used.
This 3gb is showing as others when a rom is flashed and the storage option is selected from the settings of the rom. I have tried fastboot erase userdata and fastboot flash userdata​ userdata_64GB.img with no luck. Anyone please explain to me why this happens and how can i get rid of that used space. Also i would like to know why after formatting using fastboot , the internal shows only 24 gb.
Thank you.
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Did you ever read about this lost space in all phones?
The 32GB phone comes with 24GB only usable, because of the space taken by (system, data, cache..) and other partitions, same for 64GB phones, and other phones as well, 16GB phones come with 11.5GB usable only for media, 8GB phones come with 4.5GB.
It's pretty much like when you buy a 8GB flash memory or SDcard and you get 7 and a few more.
It's normal, don't bother about that.

MigoMujahid said:
Did you ever read about this lost space in all phones?
The 32GB phone comes with 24GB only usable, because of the space taken by (system, data, cache..) and other partitions, same for 64GB phones, and other phones as well, 16GB phones come with 11.5GB usable only for media, 8GB phones come with 4.5GB.
It's pretty much like when you buy a 8GB flash memory or SDcard and you get 7 and a few more.
It's normal, don't bother about that.
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Thank you for replying. I know and understand that a portion of the total storage space will be taken up by other partitions. But the size of my internal sdcard storage( userdata partition) is 54 gb/64 gb, and out of that 3 gb is always shown as used up. If i connect my op3t to the computer while in twrp, it will show that 51.3 free out of 54.4gb, even after formatting the internal using fastboot and twrp. This 3 gb data loss is my concern. Kindly reply.

Solaman Solu said:
Thank you for replying. I know and understand that a portion of the total storage space will be taken up by other partitions. But the size of my internal sdcard storage( userdata partition) is 54 gb/64 gb, and out of that 3 gb is always shown as used up. If i connect my op3t to the computer while in twrp, it will show that 51.3 free out of 54.4gb, even after formatting the internal using fastboot and twrp. This 3 gb data loss is my concern. Kindly reply.
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try using a space usage app to identify what is exactly taking that space, maybe "DiskUsage" app.

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[Q] how to check partition of internal memory

Hey guys,
Im not sure if this has been asked as I've looked as many places as I can. This is the first android phone that i had that uses only internal memory so im not sure how to check the partitions i have made using CWM recovery.
usually i would use adb shell and check my mmcblk0 but that obviously doesnt work.
When i used the partition SD option in CWM i did:
advanced -> partition SD card -> 1024 for the ext -> 32 for the swap
my question is, is the internal memory now partitioned to ext4? as i now have an internal storage or 0.92gb
also if i wanted to increase the partition can i just simply go back and do the process over again? except chose 2048 and etc?
you cant repartition it. this isnt the G1 where you need a
ext2/3/4 partition
swap
hd space
the NS is:
0.98 GB Internal App Space
13.31 GB of USB Storage
1.71 GB reserved for Android OS
other phones have:
internal + sd card space. If this is the case, it follows the same format as the NS BUT the sd card is expanded space for USB storage.
thanks for the reply zephik, so CWM's partition tool shouldnt be used? or it just doesnt do anything for us.
because i now have:
total storage:13.31 GB
internal storage:0.93 GB <-- instead of 0.98
im currently downloading gparted to see if i can check what CWM has done. and perhaps getting rid of the 32mb swap if its not needed
imisky said:
thanks for the reply zephik, so CWM's partition tool shouldnt be used? or it just doesnt do anything for us.
because i now have:
total storage:13.31 GB
internal storage:0.93 GB <-- instead of 0.98
im currently downloading gparted to see if i can check what CWM has done. and perhaps getting rid of the 32mb swap if its not needed
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I would just straight up stay away from it. I remember on the Vibrant, "partition sd card" would semi-brick your phone because it would attempt to repartition the internal sdcard (which is what we have) and to fix it would require using Odin.
You also probably have 9020A, I have 9020T so it could be partially different. Swap is not needed.. at least not on 2nd-gen Android phones and above.
zephiK said:
I would just straight up stay away from it. I remember on the Vibrant, "partition sd card" would semi-brick your phone because it would attempt to repartition the internal sdcard (which is what we have) and to fix it would require using Odin.
You also probably have 9020A, I have 9020T so it could be partially different. Swap is not needed.. at least not on 2nd-gen Android phones and above.
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OK cool, its good that i didnt get a semi brick from this then. From what i can tell CWM didnt do anything if the total storage is still 13.31 and didnt modify anything on the internal storage as it is still 0.98 ( used up 57mb of it thats why it shows 0.93) still a bit interested as to if the swap got created or not

Root and EFS

Hi,
I just bought a used Nexus S 9023. Bootloader remains locked. I want to use EFSPro to backup the EFS folder. I can't do this without rooting. Reading through the root instructions, using fastboot oem unlock wipes all data. My question is:
If you root with fastboot oem unlock, it states all data is wiped. Does this include the EFS folder?
Obviously this is a catch-22. Anyway around this or am I reading this all wrong?
Thanks.
hi..
no its not, its only wipe your external storage...
Sent from my Nexus S
endtoosee said:
hi..
no its not, its only wipe your external storage...
Sent from my Nexus S
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Nice. I guess I was confused about the on-board memory since the phone technically doesn't have an SD Card slot. From what I read, the 16gb is partitioned as 1gb of internal memory and 15gb of "usb storage." So it's only the 15gb that is wiped?
It wipes ALL personal data. This means:
/data partition (all apps and their data)
/sdcard
/cache
The android OS won't change, neither will /efs.
Hey!
I just want to thank you for mentioning EFSpro!
With so many people losing their IMEI lately, I've being looking for a way to back up my EFS folder and this totally did the trick!
Thanks!
ps004ynos said:
Nice. I guess I was confused about the on-board memory since the phone technically doesn't have an SD Card slot. From what I read, the 16gb is partitioned as 1gb of internal memory and 15gb of "usb storage." So it's only the 15gb that is wiped?
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yes it is, sorry for being late...
Sent from my Nexus S

Backups

I'm running the EOS wifi nightlies and my backups have averaged around 240Mb on my 32Gb card. I've upgraded to a 64Gb card and flashed CM9 to try it, made a backup and it was 3Gb on a new 64Gb card. Wiped dalvik cach, cache partition and wiped data, reflashed nightly 112 and gapps, made a backup and it's still 3Gb more or less. Anyone have any ideas? I've tried all 3 of the good recoveries with just minor differences. Is there a recovery that will let you format the whole partition?
Come on guys, someone must have an idea.
Not sure, but it must have something to do with the size of the card you're using. I had an extra 1Gb card and I put it in the Xoom and did an nandroid and it came out 974Mb opposed to 3Gb on the 64Gb card.
ggrant3876 said:
Not sure, but it must have something to do with the size of the card you're using..
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Do you always talk to your self like this?. It should have been, It may be the card (I am) using.
I am aware that sometimes CWM adjusts the size of your backup according to the amount of space a person has left on their microsd card. You might also want to make sure it is not backing up the internal storage of your xoom (aka /sdcard).
yosterwp said:
I am aware that sometimes CWM adjusts the size of your backup according to the amount of space a person has left on their microsd card. You might also want to make sure it is not backing up the internal storage of your xoom (aka /sdcard).
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It's on /mnt/external1, just larger than expected.

[Q] Internal total space reads 12.05gb not 16gb.

Don't know how I did this but under internal storage my phone's Total space reads 12.05Gb and not 16Gb. I have a 16Gb version. I'm rooted running Liquidsmooths current RC9. I have done full factory wipes and data wipes without any success. How do I reset/format to get the phone to read the whole 16gb? Anyone have any ideas?
You don't. The ROM kernel, radios, etc
Need space out if that 16gb
By the way you only needed to post this once. You'll get answers without multiple posts.
Sent from my SCH-I535
Completely normal, don't know if this is your first device with memory but you never get the complete amount of memory they advertise its always less by a little

8gb internal storage solutions

So I got the Moto G 1gb, 8 gigs of internal storage version.
I love this phone so far and I've pretty much set it up how I'd like it, but the 8gb internal storage has turned into an issue.
I got Appmanager III, moved pretty much everything to my 32 gig external, but I still have only like 600 mb to spare on the internal, with well over half of the external left over.
Is there another app that will allow me to move all the app data left over in the internal over to the external?
If that's not enough, I'd also be interested in knowing if there's any way I can force the system to use the external as the main storage for all the OS functions. I already used adb to set all the default downloads to the external.
Finally, I'd like to know if custom ROMs like cyanogenmod would use up less storage than the stock OS, or at least let me use more of my internal by reducing the amount of bloatware (why can i NOT get rid of google movies or google+??? come ON)
I'm rooted and have installed twrp so both root and custom recovery solutions are welcome. Thanks for your time and help!
If it were me, I'd make a Nandroid with TWRP on the external as well as a backup with Titanium and then use Titanium to delete unwanted bloatware. Wouldn't that help?
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bruce7373 said:
If it were me, I'd make a Nandroid with TWRP on the external as well as a backup with Titanium and then use Titanium to delete unwanted bloatware. Wouldn't that help?
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System apps, ie those that come with the phone such as google movies, live in the system partition. If they are updated then the update lives in the internal storage. Uninstalling via titanium will of course free up both system and internal storage space.
However just disabling them will be sufficient, this will remove all updates from internal storage and just leave the apk in the system partition. Its the internal storage that you want to be less full as this is where user apps, pictures etc all reside (assuming you haven't yet moved them to an SD card).
Disabling is less drastic than uninstalling and is maybe the preferred option in case you otherwise uninstall something that breaks your phone.
I've tried that, but for whatever reason if I disable, say, google play movie or whatever, my phone eventually ends up redownloading them? It's really odd and honestly pretty annoying.
I'd still like to know if there's any way to keep all the main app data on the external or something though. Are Cyanogenmod ROMs installers smaller? I don't need THAT much more space to feel comfortable, having 1 gigabyte would be ok with me. I just don't like having like 600 MB free at most...
EDIT: If I can just move the app data for a few games and Google Chrome, that should fix it, too. Those seem to be the real space hogs, so if I can move those I should be able to handle everything else
EDIT EDIT: Would an app like Link2SD work for this phone or has no one tested that yet?
Hi Tazzypilar, Yes Link2Sd wil work wery well. All wat you have to do is to install MiniTool Partition Wizzard Professional on your PC, then put your micro SD card in the cardreader on your desktop or laptop to make two partitions on your SdMicro card (card must be class 10). Start program MiniTool Partition Wizzard Professional and look for your microSD card on the list with disks. Right click on your removable disk (micro sd card) and you can resize your first Fat32 partition and make it smaller for at least 2 GB. After that you will have 2 GB unused space behind this Fat32 partition. Now click with right mouse on this unused space and choose „Create“ new partition and make it ext4 file system partition. You will be prompt „Are you sure that you want to make ext4 partiton because Windows can't see it ?“ and answare „Yes“ . So, one partition will be Fat32 and you can make it as big as you like depending on the size of your MicroSd card and second should be at least 2GB (or greater - also may be smaller, it's up to you) ext4 partition and there you will move your apps from the internal phone memory.
That's all, after that you have to install Link2Sd from playstore and link apps you like to move to your SdCard. Succes ! If you have more questions jut ask !
Greetz !
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Where did my storage go?
Just asked my self a very similar questions
I attachment a screen shot
From the 8gb 3,5 go to Android system
So 4,5gb for internal I thought., but no.
I installed about 2gb of apps and 200mb cache.
Ah I forgot to mention that this is a fresh install after factory reset and still I am missing alot of storage see screen shot
Is this normal? I am on stock not rooted with some apps already moved to SD Any ideas?
Upgrade to android M, use external SD as internal card
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
sandipkc7 said:
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
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I am glad you brought this up, guess what I am already on M and using the SD card feature, unfortunately I can only a small portion of the apps move to the SD card the rest stays internal
Look for posts on link2sd, it needs to be a fast card and then formatted using both std FAT and ext (linux) partitions. Then you can move almost everything.
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Though Im using LG H502F. Correct me if Im wrong but I think thats because the internal storage is emulated. Ive been using Link2SD and it works well. I can link app data and external data to the mounted partition. The only difference I noticed was... When opening the app it takes a couple of second or more compared to the unlinked apps... Anyways. Try to check if your storage is emulated. If it is, then that 3GB available space for a stock rom is as good as it gets. Mine have 8GB rom but the end user is only 3GB something.
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merlin2380 said:
I am glad you brought this up, guess what I am already on M and using the SD card feature, unfortunately I can only a small portion of the apps move to the SD card the rest stays internal
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In android M you can "transform" your sd card in internal memory (in Settings>Storage>SdCard>Definitions). If you have a fast 32 Gb card, you can format it to internal and it is as you have 32 Gb internal memory, but your sdcard must "live" with your phone (can't be used as sdcard in other device).
I think that is what @sandipkc7 means.
I did that not very usefull
merlin2380 said:
I did that not very usefull
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Tried internal storage option in marshmallow and at first i taught it was rubbish, but i kinda left sdcard alone and install another ROM.
So stuff on my internal storage was nowhere to be found. I installed latest recovery (TWRP) Flashed another rom and this is where things started to get interesting.
When i first converted sdcard to use as internal storage my phone was still eating up the internal memory 8GB on the phone.
Now however android system decided to do away with internal 8GB memory and use sdcard as a main storage. my photos are stored there and all data i noticed that almost everything is installed on sdcard now. so my storage is not vanishing away. I have about 1.7GB used on there.
There are some apps that can be moved manually to sdcard storage (converted to internal) - for example some of the system apps and most of google apps stay in phones memory not on sdcard and they can't be moved manually.
So my advise is covert your card to internal memory and then do factory reset or install another ROM.
Option 2 as mentioned above in posts is to use app called Link2SD - it is worth to opt for paid version which gives you more options of what to copy to 2nd partiton of your sdcard.
i have amazon fire 7 (£50 tablet) setup with option 2 - same storage 8GB. It works well. due to lack of marshmallow for this device i cannot use internal sd as an option. I have 2GB used there and rest sits on sdcard. i have installed few resource (storage) hugging apps - 1.2 GB, 2 GB each (gameloft games) - all moved to sd with link2sd app.
on my moto g 2015 i use android build in solution and it works well. You have to keep in mind that with this solution you can't simply copy files to your computer. Sdcard is encrypted at device level and it can only be access via your phone. However you can use any wifi file transfer app to copy some files over or via phones hotspot (i use droid over wifi or web pc suite to name few).
hope this helped a little
sandipkc7 said:
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
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honestly, its not worth it to use sdcard as internal, despite the micro sd card being fast, it made my phone ridiculously slow..............
marsrolled said:
honestly, its not worth it to use sdcard as internal, despite the micro sd card being fast, it made my phone ridiculously slow..............
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Because of this slow down i did a reset to default settings. This did help and now the phone works much better, just make sure you always have 500MB empty on the internal storage, anything less and tbe phone performance goes down imediatly.
All the talking about this no so vreat sdcardinteral storage feature was too much for my 32 GB samsung evo micro sd card, it died less than 6 months of service. This was already the 2nd from the evo series that hung up on me and let me to dataloss thanks to google drive all was backedup
I will now root the phone and get a custom rom, probaply cm offical
Did you ever find out how to recover that lost 2GB? I have the exact same problem and managed to maybe find the 2GB in the /data folder; however it is sys locked and I'm not ready to root a brand new phone yet.
I have 8 apps installed (not counting google/motorola pre-installed) on my Moto G3 and showing 3.72GB used of 4.53GB available internal. It then shows 1.36 GB used by apps, 1.71 MB by cache. Other 2GB is a mystery?Device storage shows only 16GB used of 37GB availabe due to SD card.

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